Mr X of Mr X Productions is a fucking Content Thief!

[TiaLing]

Ok..... so my husband does a dvd deal with this retard using some blowjob content that we own and shot ... you can view here .... www.povauditions.com .... we put out 2 dvds then he decides he wants to use his own content for following dvds ... ok fine ..... so be it ....

Few months ago he asks my husband if we'd be interested in licensing out the content for web and of course said no ..... since we have the content on our own site and it is an exclusive content site.

So what does this guy do? He licenses it out anyway ! I'm not going to go into who has the content and is displaying it just yet ... hopefully that can be taken care of behind closed doors .... but they are refusing to remove because they paid for it. Except they don't seem to realize they bought content from someone that has no right to sell it or license it. This piece of shit licensed out content that he does not own and did not shoot.

We have all the 2257 info, all the model releases, ids, I can even provide the shooter that we paid to shoot the content. I found this amusing .....


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Originally Posted by MrX
I notice your using thaicoeds.com content to promote another TGP. Can you please explain this or is this how you operate?

Interesting you questioning how someone else operates when you're taking content you clearly do not own and are selling it. We may as well go over to top bucks .... take all there content off there site of asian parade ... and then license it out as our own. That's not illegal , right? Unbelievable .. Don't ever do business with this guy or promote his sites .... www.cashpimps.com ......

Tia

[commonsense]

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[TiaLing]

I'm going to post this everywhere I can find!

[MoreMagic]

Let me do a fast sigspot

[Gaybucks]

I've heard of this sort of thing happening too often unfortunately.

One possible solution: If the guy who you provided the content to originally didn't get 2257 docs with it, tell the people who bought the content that it isn't compliant, the provider doesn't have docs, and that you're going to report it to their ISP. An intelligent business owner might risk a content licensing argument but won't risk having content up for which he knows there's no 2257 docs to back it up.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Gaybucks

I've heard of this sort of thing happening too often unfortunately.

One possible solution: If the guy who you provided the content to originally didn't get 2257 docs with it, tell the people who bought the content that it isn't compliant, the provider doesn't have docs, and that you're going to report it to their ISP. An intelligent business owner might risk a content licensing argument but won't risk having content up for which he knows there's no 2257 docs to back it up.

Exactly right.

If I was in the same situation, I would sue both of them for everything they are worth. One for re-licensing things they have no rights for, and the other for copyright violations.

In the meantime, I would make is saucy by going after their infrastructure. knocking them out of SERPS, and other such entertainment.

I am sure once you start knocking out their business infrastructure then you will find them a bit more cooperative.

[GonZo]

File a DMCA complaint with the host and let them sort it out that way.

[CurrentlySober]

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[TiaLing]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Exactly right.

If I was in the same situation, I would sue both of them for everything they are worth. One for re-licensing things they have no rights for, and the other for copyright violations.

In the meantime, I would make is saucy by going after their infrastructure. knocking them out of SERPS, and other such entertainment.

I am sure once you start knocking out their business infrastructure then you will find them a bit more cooperative.

Planning on doing this .... giving the other party til next monday to take down .... hoping they will comply before then but it doesn't seem ... atleast at this point ... they will. It's more Mr X's fault ... however, the other party still can't cont to use ... even though they paid for it . I supplied Mr X with copies of 2257 info for the dvd release since pureplay would need to have on file to use .... he probably gave them those .... even though they are not his to give. tia

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[klaze]

The idiots aren't pulling the content because they paid for it!?

HAHAHAAHH oh man.. That logic just doesn't work in the real world.

[mrxp]

I own got milkshake.com (reg's Creation date: 23 Dec 2006 01:52:45) and like to complement the sites with DVD lines.

Tia's husband & I spoke at AVN '07 and they wanted to see how viable the DVD business was.

Here's was what was agreed upon:
You said you had BJ content and I introduced the Got Milkshake concept. You preferred to use POV Auditions & I suggested you can always do that as well with another distributor but I would use my concept. Since you had the content, I'd produce - handle post production & distribute it under the Mr X label.

I Paid for:
Editing
Authoring
Cover Design
Printing
Shipping
Replication
Packaging
total is around $3000 per title

Your content was used for Got Milkshake? and Got Milkshake 2
You were paid at least $3937.53 on initial sales (once again at no production cost)

Then the SHOCKER:
My distributor notifies me that Bryan (Tia's husband) emailed them asking if they can deal directly with them, cutting me out of the picture. So I simply let Bryan know I no longer wish to deal with Tia Ling Productions and give him a few distributors he can contact. I tell him I will keep paying off the sales the 2 DVDs earn.

SHOCKER #2:
Apparently Bryan then attempts to copyright Got Milkshake? (attempt to steal the rights to my line or domain name?) Needless to say the Dairy Farmers of America have an attorney write a letter to Bryan and he then withdraws the copyright registration and points fingers at me & my distributor.
I then receive the letter representing "Got MIlk?" and reluctantly my distributor & I decide to pull the line meaning - No More Sales.

END OF STORY!

& you call me a thief as you:
1. Go behind my back in an attempt to cut a deal with my distributor?
2. Try to register a copyright on "Got Milkshake" after you know I've been using the concept and have a registered domain?
3. You accept my payment but never reimburse me for the production cost after your negligence gets the line pulled?

So I now am sitting on inventory & a tarnished deal from Tia Ling Productions. No compensation nor reimbursement of my production cost have been offered as of yet from Tia Ling Productions. Id be more than happy to send them the masters and the DVD inventory for the same cost I have invested in it $6k.

I have licensed it only once, but if someone offers to license the line from me to offset my cost, it will be considered.

If were ripping off your content I'd have sold it all over the place & used it on my own sites, which isn't the case.

So ball is in your court, you gonna reimburse me or not?

PF
www.mrxproductions.com

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[marzzo]

[Telly]

bump this thread to the top

[CaptainHowdy]

To the very top ...

[tsanghan]

to the top!

[commonsense]

Originally Posted by mrxp

I own got milkshake.com (reg's Creation date: 23 Dec 2006 01:52:45) and like to complement the sites with DVD lines.

Tia's husband & I spoke at AVN '07 and they wanted to see how viable the DVD business was.

Here's was what was agreed upon:
You said you had BJ content and I introduced the Got Milkshake concept. You preferred to use POV Auditions & I suggested you can always do that as well with another distributor but I would use my concept. Since you had the content, I'd produce - handle post production & distribute it under the Mr X label.

I Paid for:
Editing
Authoring
Cover Design
Printing
Shipping
Replication
Packaging
total is around $3000 per title

Your content was used for Got Milkshake? and Got Milkshake 2
You were paid at least $3937.53 on initial sales (once again at no production cost)

Then the SHOCKER:
My distributor notifies me that Bryan (Tia's husband) emailed them asking if they can deal directly with them, cutting me out of the picture. So I simply let Bryan know I no longer wish to deal with Tia Ling Productions and give him a few distributors he can contact. I tell him I will keep paying off the sales the 2 DVDs earn.

SHOCKER #2:
Apparently Bryan then attempts to copyright Got Milkshake? (attempt to steal the rights to my line or domain name?) Needless to say the Dairy Farmers of America have an attorney write a letter to Bryan and he then withdraws the copyright registration and points fingers at me & my distributor.
I then receive the letter representing "Got MIlk?" and reluctantly my distributor & I decide to pull the line meaning - No More Sales.

END OF STORY!

& you call me a thief as you:
1. Go behind my back in an attempt to cut a deal with my distributor?
2. Try to register a copyright on "Got Milkshake" after you know I've been using the concept and have a registered domain?
3. You accept my payment but never reimburse me for the production cost after your negligence gets the line pulled?

So I now am sitting on inventory & a tarnished deal from Tia Ling Productions. No compensation nor reimbursement of my production cost have been offered as of yet from Tia Ling Productions. Id be more than happy to send them the masters and the DVD inventory for the same cost I have invested in it $6k.

I have licensed it only once, but if someone offers to license the line from me to offset my cost, it will be considered.

If were ripping off your content I'd have sold it all over the place & used it on my own sites, which isn't the case.

So ball is in your court, you gonna reimburse me or not?

PF
www.mrxproductions.com

and the plot thickens.....

[RobAlbaugh]

Originally Posted by commonsense

and the plot thickens.....

Agreed. Mr. X actually seems to be right in this instance if what he states is correct. If someone tried to low ball me and go to my distributor, they wouldnt need to worry about their content but worry about removing my foot from his fucking throat. Maybe Mr. X will provide the letters to offset any comeback.

Get the popcorn!

[Fetish Videos]

Somebody needs to buy somebody else a camera to say sorry...don't really care who..

[Marcus Aurelius]

Bumpity Bump in the night.

[Iron Fist]

Okay ... we got a shocker thread people! Siggy spotty!

[Aussie Rebel]

See Sig,

[potter]

now this is some drama

[Peace]

It happened to me before. Some one stole and sold to another...And they say we paid frit and we are not removing it...I had to pay and to give them some free content in exchange fo r removal...

[TiaLing]

Originally Posted by klaze

The idiots aren't pulling the content because they paid for it!?

HAHAHAAHH oh man.. That logic just doesn't work in the real world.

oh yeah ... that's logic .... so what you're saying is that if some idiot sells me content from traffic cash gold and i put it up .... then they don't have the right to make me pull it down because I say " well, I didn't know" .... I don't think being nieve would work ... nor does it in any other situation .... good god ... talk about logic ... maybe you outta try getting some

[TiaLing]

Originally Posted by mrxp

I own got milkshake.com (reg's Creation date: 23 Dec 2006 01:52:45) and like to complement the sites with DVD lines.

Tia's husband & I spoke at AVN '07 and they wanted to see how viable the DVD business was.

Here's was what was agreed upon:
You said you had BJ content and I introduced the Got Milkshake concept. You preferred to use POV Auditions & I suggested you can always do that as well with another distributor but I would use my concept. Since you had the content, I'd produce - handle post production & distribute it under the Mr X label.

I Paid for:
Editing
Authoring
Cover Design
Printing
Shipping
Replication
Packaging
total is around $3000 per title

Your content was used for Got Milkshake? and Got Milkshake 2
You were paid at least $3937.53 on initial sales (once again at no production cost)

Then the SHOCKER:
My distributor notifies me that Bryan (Tia's husband) emailed them asking if they can deal directly with them, cutting me out of the picture. So I simply let Bryan know I no longer wish to deal with Tia Ling Productions and give him a few distributors he can contact. I tell him I will keep paying off the sales the 2 DVDs earn.

SHOCKER #2:
Apparently Bryan then attempts to copyright Got Milkshake? (attempt to steal the rights to my line or domain name?) Needless to say the Dairy Farmers of America have an attorney write a letter to Bryan and he then withdraws the copyright registration and points fingers at me & my distributor.
I then receive the letter representing "Got MIlk?" and reluctantly my distributor & I decide to pull the line meaning - No More Sales.

END OF STORY!

& you call me a thief as you:
1. Go behind my back in an attempt to cut a deal with my distributor?
2. Try to register a copyright on "Got Milkshake" after you know I've been using the concept and have a registered domain?
3. You accept my payment but never reimburse me for the production cost after your negligence gets the line pulled?

So I now am sitting on inventory & a tarnished deal from Tia Ling Productions. No compensation nor reimbursement of my production cost have been offered as of yet from Tia Ling Productions. Id be more than happy to send them the masters and the DVD inventory for the same cost I have invested in it $6k.

I have licensed it only once, but if someone offers to license the line from me to offset my cost, it will be considered.

If were ripping off your content I'd have sold it all over the place & used it on my own sites, which isn't the case.

So ball is in your court, you gonna reimburse me or not?

PF
www.mrxproductions.com

This is not Tia ... This is Bryan posting. Since you brought the dvd thing into the picture ... which has nothing to do with this ... I'll respond.

You have one thing right .... we spoke at avns in '07 and agreed to release a dvd together. That's about it , though.

I had the content ... and initially wanted to call it povauditions ... however, you insisted on the Got Milkshake name on this line that was supposed to be our product together as somewhat of a partnership on one line .... on a handshake. My mistake on the handshake part ... we had even spoke of additional products together. Part one and two were released..... they had already been edited ... so you did not have to edit ... other than author for the dvd. We agreed upon a % split ..... you cost is replication , etc ... mine was production. True ... i received initial money you spoke of .... but you never even paid me all of the commisions owed to me on GM 2 and you know this. I simply let it rest because I didn't feel like fucking with it anymore. GM 1 did about 1000 units at I believe around 10 bucks per dvd from what I recall ..... around 10 k plus vod sales which brought our pay out to approx what you stated .... with a small fraction of it from gm2 ... but I was never paid all commisions owed on gm2!

Now .... I'm ready to release gm3 .... you start coming up with every excuse in the world as to why you can't release gm 3. Pureplay isn't paying you... pureplay isn't allowing you more releases, you want to get some of your bj content out off your shelf thru got milkshake which made no sense ... content was all asian bj and nothing that had anything to do with previous content. So yes, We contacted Richard at pureplay simply because you wouldn't allow us any releases. We contacted other distributors , as well because of this issue. Richard stated that he would simply allow you more releases ... we said that's great and contacted you letting you know we did contact him and that he said you could get more releases.

Then comes more excuses .... there still not paying me ... bla bla bla ..... and then you use us contacting Richard as a reason to say you're just going to use your own content under the line we started with my content. We had a disagreement about who should keep the line .... I started to trademark ... I had already decided not to pursue to got milkshake title after speaking with my following distributor and to just use another Title, even after paying for the trademark. Got Milk Got pissed after seeing the trademark, which they would have done eventually either way, but this was after you and I had it out about the title, after i decided to use a different title and not pursue any longer ....But if you would have simply left the line as is instead of using my content to get it started and then saying "fuck you I want to get my own shit off the shelf", then this entire situation never would have happened. Got Milk Just happened to contact me after I had decided to just let you fucking have the damn title ..... was poetic justice to me ... you want it ... you got it .... Now you get to deal with the issues of the title since you wanted it so badly. Moral ... if it ain't broke ... don't fix it. you see mainstream titles being copied all the time in porn .... most could careless ... you just happened to pick someone that does .... Fact are simple ....

1. We had a line that we started with my content.... your replication .... you decided not to cont to release with my content in order to release your own. You lost your label because of this ... and yes ... I pointed the GM people in your direction becaue you had already fucked me on dist and then fucked me again on the commisions from vol 2.

2. You never paid me remaining commisions owed on gm2 or vod.

3. You then illegally licensed content that you do not own to someone else. Yes, it was released with you ... but you know as well as I that you do not own it or have legal rights to it. This is, in fact , content theft.

4. What you call negligence is hyterical ... it was your negligence in trying to cut me out of the dvd that caused the issue ... by the time the GM people were involved I was out of the got milkshake picture ... not my baby anymore and that's the way YOU wanted it! Again , if everything would have been left as is ... none of this would have happened. I never would have had to contact Richard or anyone else to find other means to release ... what did you expect ... we were just going to sit on the content while you came up with every bullshit reason as to why you couldn't release ????? I came straight back to you after speaking with Richard and told you of our conversation ... there was no attempt to deceive and you know that.


Now ..... you actually think I owe you money for your own stupidity? You must be kidding. I'll tell you what ... you can take the commisions you never paid me and consider a wash ..... I could careless the dvd situation with you at this point.

Since we've gotten thru all of this ... which really has nothing to do with the original point of this thread ... you licensing out content that you do not own .... lets get back to that ....

If I can legally nail you for this I will ... but at this point .. I just don't know that ... however, anyone you sell or attempt to license this content to will receive a letter to their billing company and hosting company with proof of ownership , 2257, model release, ids, and a receipt from the shooter that I paid and they will have to take the content down ..... so you are only fucking them. However, this is sad ... because they are not the true person at fault ... you are ..... you can't just say fuck you i'm selling you shit to whoever I feel like it because of a previous gone bad issue. If that were true .... I could just go pull down shit from any site and license it to whoever I wanted? That's exactly what you did.

To conclude ... you will not receive a dime from us as you actually owe me and my partner money if anything .... I will try to figure out a way to nail you legally but when it comes down to it ..... not sure yet ... but I can stop whoever you sell to from displaying it. We'll see where this ends up ... but bottom line is You sold content YOU DO NOT OWN and DO NOT have rights to, regardless of our previous issues. So, the ball is in your court ... not mine ... you can either replace the content you sold illegally with something you acctually own ... or every resource will be used to have it pulled ..... End of Story .... Now if you don't mind I'm going to have some fun with my wife on our trip home from LA instead of dealing with this stupidity .... B
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[TiaLing]

Originally Posted by RobAlbaugh

Agreed. Mr. X actually seems to be right in this instance if what he states is correct. If someone tried to low ball me and go to my distributor, they wouldnt need to worry about their content but worry about removing my foot from his fucking throat. Maybe Mr. X will provide the letters to offset any comeback.

Get the popcorn!

there were no letters .... it was a phone conversation ... read post above .... what he states is not correct. We did not contact pp with the intent to go behind his back ... mr x was not allowing us a release ... mr x had decided to end relationship before we contacted pp ... he was just pussyfooting around telling us ..... We told pp / Richard when we contacted him that we would do nothing without mr x's approval regarding other options and told mr x about the converation afterwards. He was just pissed because when Richard resolved the issue .... he couldn't use his excuse anymore .... not being allowed more releases by pure play. Again , this has nothing to do with this issue of licensing ....and let me mention that your foot is going know where near my ass or throat .... make your threats else where and wait for the facts before you make them.

[mrxp]

Funny thing is I licensed Dvds that I produced. I told you once before it didn't matter who's content I put under the concept.

As far as editing, it had to be cleaned up, bandages under newly cut breast dont really look to good on film.

I was contacted by my distributor in which you asked to keep this between you & them. So yes I did make excuses while I thought things through then tried to tell you lightly I wasn't interested in working with you anymore. & when I finally did tell you the truth you pulled your copyright stunt.

I have never used the content on my sites or licensed it separately. I did license the DVd, so this entire issue is regarding the Dvds.

[TiaLing]

Originally Posted by mrxp

Funny thing is I licensed Dvds that I produced. I told you once before it didn't matter who's content I put under the concept.

As far as editing, it had to be cleaned up, bandages under newly cut breast dont really look to good on film.

I was contacted by my distributor in which you asked to keep this between you & them. So yes I did make excuses while I thought things through then tried to tell you lightly I wasn't interested in working with you anymore. & when I finally did tell you the truth you pulled your copyright stunt.

I have never used the content on my sites or licensed it separately. I did license the DVd, so this entire issue is regarding the Dvds.

No ... you were making excuses way before that ... this is why we had the issue and why i was looking elsewhere .... your excuses of not being allowed more releases ... not getting paid by pure play ... and anything else. These issues were before we spoke to them ..... but again ... this has nothing to do with this issue.

The content on the dvds is not yours to sell ... you know this as well as I...... sell them to consumers ... yes, to others to distribute ... no ....

b and tia

[The Duck]

drama llama out

[pocketkangaroo]

The content market seems like a crazy biz. These type of threads seem to pop up a lot.

[HorseShit]

im eating airheads and drinking coffee

[raven1083]

go on to the highest top!

[notime]

contracts, agreements, signatures, good reading & thinking on consequences.
Always better to be safe then sorry.
Verbal stuff don't work these days!
contracts rule...

[TiaLing]

Originally Posted by notime

contracts, agreements, signatures, good reading & thinking on consequences.
Always better to be safe then sorry.
Verbal stuff don't work these days!
contracts rule...

That's true ... this was my mistake!

[AllStar]

The Whore Wars...

[dav3]

i sale cheap verbal contracts

[sinclair]

get 'em Tia, get 'em

[mrxp]

Originally Posted by sinclair

get 'em Tia, get 'em

You haven't realized it's not Tia posting? Guess his deception worked on you as well.

[Telly]

Bump for unsettled business

[TiaLing]

Originally Posted by mrxp

You haven't realized it's not Tia posting? Guess his deception worked on you as well.

You're such a jackass ... like that makes any difference ... I stated I was posting in my responses ... we've both been posting with this issue ... but since you brought up the past regarding the dvds .... I have most of the knowledge of that scenerio. I guess you would know who's posting , though ... since you have a whopping 89 posts. The only deception is you acting like you have any right to license this content to others.

Again, making a comment that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you're licensing content you do not own. If you state that you're licensing the dvd ... then I'm sure the got milk people would love to know that since you're not supposed to even be utilizing any copies of it. Either way .... Like I said ... you're only screwing the person that buys it because we will do everything in our power to make them take it down and if anything legally can be done to you ... don't worry ... it'll be coming soon enough. If not .... it 'll come around to you sooner or later.

[TiaLing]

Originally Posted by dav3

i sale cheap verbal contracts

LOL ... we'll keep this in mind

[TiaLing]

Originally Posted by sinclair

get 'em Tia, get 'em

LOL ... this is Tia ... thank you MR Sinclair! Miss you in cleveland .... we're in Colorado now ... gotta go out and party when we get home!

[mrxp]

I made the comment because your so full of it. You cover up the fact you went behind my back to my distributor. You covered up the fact you tried to fanagle my Got Milkshake concept in an attempted copyright registration. Those are 2 deliberate attempts to rip me off? & you whine because I licensed a DVD i produced?. Then you post Mr. X from Mr X Productions is a Fucking Content Thief in a public forum The DVD states Mr X on it with us as recordholders.

Had you not cost me $9,000 with your greedy attempts at stealing my names and distributor, there wouldn't be the need to recover my expenses.

The only legal action in this situation is your slander. Just because I dont post in here much means your right or something? I use this board for info & answering questions when I need it. I dont go around pretending to be a pornstar chick posting or anything. I just read Lex Steele was at Internext & started a fight on a bus. & UFC's Anderson Silva showed up at Porn.com to sell a sex tape in here. Come on get real! At least your accusations are consistent with the other ficticious posts in here.

I've been in the biz for a decade, have some of the largest distributors backing me. I gave you a great chance & you fucked me. In doing so you fucked yourself & lost my backing. You cost my distributors time & money as well as myself. We are companies not Husband & Pornstar Wife teams.

I dropped you over a year ago and on icq last night you said you still havent even released a DVD yet. Learn your lesson & move on. Your dillusional about business & how it works. Had you even gotten your copyright, it was already registered & in use by me. It only proves how unethical you are.

So wtf gives? Drop it already or maybe you will get your wish in court. Go print this & take it to a business attorney, tell him your me & some prick started this BS in a public forum. See what he thinks the slander would get you.

And at this point I'm ready to bill you to reimburse my cost. I hear any more crap from you i'll license the DVD or content trade the dvd to evry BJ site I can find for $1, until i'm reimbursed my cost.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by mrxp

I've been in the biz for a decade, have some of the largest distributors backing me.

And I can still out surf you!!!

[TiaLing]

Originally Posted by mrxp

I made the comment because your so full of it. You cover up the fact you went behind my back to my distributor. You covered up the fact you tried to fanagle my Got Milkshake concept in an attempted copyright registration. Those are 2 deliberate attempts to rip me off? & you whine because I licensed a DVD i produced?. Then you post Mr. X from Mr X Productions is a Fucking Content Thief in a public forum The DVD states Mr X on it with us as recordholders.

Had you not cost me $9,000 with your greedy attempts at stealing my names and distributor, there wouldn't be the need to recover my expenses.

The only legal action in this situation is your slander. Just because I dont post in here much means your right or something? I use this board for info & answering questions when I need it. I dont go around pretending to be a pornstar chick posting or anything. I just read Lex Steele was at Internext & started a fight on a bus. & UFC's Anderson Silva showed up at Porn.com to sell a sex tape in here. Come on get real! At least your accusations are consistent with the other ficticious posts in here.

I've been in the biz for a decade, have some of the largest distributors backing me. I gave you a great chance & you fucked me. In doing so you fucked yourself & lost my backing. You cost my distributors time & money as well as myself. We are companies not Husband & Pornstar Wife teams.

I dropped you over a year ago and on icq last night you said you still havent even released a DVD yet. Learn your lesson & move on. Your dillusional about business & how it works. Had you even gotten your copyright, it was already registered & in use by me. It only proves how unethical you are.

So wtf gives? Drop it already or maybe you will get your wish in court. Go print this & take it to a business attorney, tell him your me & some prick started this BS in a public forum. See what he thinks the slander would get you.

And at this point I'm ready to bill you to reimburse my cost. I hear any more crap from you i'll license the DVD or content trade the dvd to evry BJ site I can find for $1, until i'm reimbursed my cost.

I'm full of it ... your biggest fucktard I've ever dealt with. I did not cover up that I tried to fangle the got milkshake concept after the got milk people came looking for you because I openly admit that I pointed them in your direction ... fuck you and the got milkshake concept. YOu fucked me out of it so when they came knocking on my door Of course I sent them your way. I wasn't a part of it anymore. What? You expect me to take the heat over a product that

1. you didn't pay me for on the second volume

2. fucked me out of because you wanted to use your own shit content for it instead of mine, then used some lame as excuse of me going to your distributor to start a line behind your back ... which you know damn well is not the reason I spoke with him

Had you not disallowed releases so that you could put out your own content then I never would have had to contact anyone. I came right back to you after richard had said you were allowed more releases .... but that wasn't the real reason at all ... was it?

I don't pretend to be anyone ... Tia normally does her posts ... if I do I state it as I have .... because this is more my issue than hers .... and I don't post on here enough to have my own id ... just doesn't make sense.

I don't care how many backers you have ... how long you've been in the biz ... larger companies with big backing do shady stuff all the time ... I haven't released because i've had too many other fucking things going on which is none of your business .... I have a full time job in the med field ... this is not my full time gig .... so I do it as I have time .... still has nothing to do with the fact that you do not have the right to license that content. So .... go license to whoever you want ... and i'll have them take it down ... then they'll be pissed at you for licensing shit they can't use .... and it will only give me more fuel to sue your ass! Who the fuck do you think you are anyway ... all I can say is you're damn lucky that assault is against the law ..... or legal action would be the least of your worries at this point .... what you really need is a good old fashioned ass kicking! But go ahead ... keep running your big ass mouth from all the way in hawaii .... maybe we'll see how much you have to say the next time i see you at avns or some other show!

And you can shove your bill up your ass ... I don't owe you shit ... I told you that you still owe me commisions for gm2 anyway .... but i'll make sure the GM know your still throwing out copies ....

B

[mrxp]

Guess you still dont realized GM2 was pulled when you tried to copyright it, thus my lost investment in producing the DVD. Best solution is reimburse the cost & I can send you the inventory & masters as I suggested. That's called the 1st right of refusal. If you disagree my option is to go elsewhere to sell it.

[TiaLing]

Originally Posted by mrxp

Guess you still dont realized GM2 was pulled when you tried to copyright it, thus my lost investment in producing the DVD. Best solution is reimburse the cost & I can send you the inventory & masters as I suggested. That's called the 1st right of refusal. If you disagree my option is to go elsewhere to sell it.

I guess you still don't realize that the only reason I started to copyright it is because you decided you wanted to release your own content on it and cut me out. You knew I was copyrighting it because i told you and you didn't care because you think you're untouchable ... just like you first thought when the Got Milk people came looking for you .... which I told you about and you shrugged it off. And don't give me that crap again that you dropped me because of going to your dist ... we both know that you weren't allowing me to release well before that and you never were going to allow me to because you wanted to get your own stuff out. You also continue to avoid the fact that you never paid us in full for commisions on gm2 either.

I have no need for dvds that can't be sold and you have no right to sell the content in those dvds ....... yes, you can probably sell it anyway by licensing the shit out and if I want to take it far enough I could probably stop you ... but that would depend upon cost ... however, at worst .... I can make whoever you license it to take it down .... or atleast anyone with a legitimate biller or host. So if you want to sell it to people and then have them get pissed because they have to take it down ... so be it. Have fun with that.

As far as a solution .... the only thing i can think of is for you to replace to persons content you sold to with other content that you actually own .... but at this point .... I can see that's not going to happen ... so I'll make them take it down after monday ... since we asked them to take down by then but prob will not ...then they'll be pissed at you for selling them shit you don't own if they are not already. However, I would be willing to work something out with your customers if they would contact us but have not to this point.

Of course we would prefer some type of amicable solution with the purchasers and I'm sure they'll be reading this .... as they are active here ... so i'll say that all I want is for the content to be taken off the tour and fhg's taken down .... seeing as you spent 1k .... I would allow you to keep in your members area IF YOU CONTACT US BEFORE MON .... this way you can still use as updates and we don't get our shit scattered all over the net or atleast not from this point on from FHG, no watermarks unless ours ... if not, and i have to try to force you and succeed .... that will no longer be an option ... so please contact us so we can work something out like that. We have emailed you a copy of our invoice from content shooter . This is our offer of compromise with the purchasers of the content, since they're in the same niche as us and we'd prefer to stay on good terms. We will not give this offer to anyone else the content is sold to by Mr X. Otherwise ..... we'll just see what happens by force .....

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[mrxp]

If I for any reason make an error in licensing a DVD I produced, I have more than enough means to compensate the licensor.



So at this point Bryan & Tia has declined the offer to buyout Dvd right on Got Milkshake & Got Milkshake 2. I will now go ahead & move the remaining products via all distribution channels available.







myth:

(You keep saying I fucked you out of a distribution deal, at what point did you have a distribution deal? Am I missing something here?)