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Neo_Maven · 05-28-2006, 12:29 PM

OK NOW, why is it that some serial killers (like Theodor Bundy) killed using their hands or very crude weapons like logs or rocks to beat their victims to death.

Why didn't he just buy a knife or something? What is the purpose for being so "hands on" and physical? One stab with a knife could kill, while beating someone with a rock or a tire iron could take many blows and might not even kill the victim. What is with that? Why do you think he chose to do that?

Neo_Maven · 05-28-2006, 12:35 PM

I need your input please. Thank you!

cranki · 05-28-2006, 12:36 PM

for kicks?

jscott · 05-28-2006, 12:39 PM

i fit a cereal killer profile

RayBonga · 05-28-2006, 12:39 PM

white - check
heterosexual - check
males - check
in their twenties and thirties - check

Be afraid, be very afraid.

cranki · 05-28-2006, 12:40 PM

Neo_Maven · 05-28-2006, 12:40 PM

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for kicks?

Thank you. I thought the same, but I would like you to use your imagination and describe what you think he might have been thinking. I need your explanation for it to help. If you have time, I would love any input you might have as to why he chose to stalk, chase, trick and viciously beat his victims. Why not just kill with a quiet, easy, efficient weapon like a knife? Thanks again!

Gman.357 · 05-28-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo_Maven

OK NOW, why is it that some serial killers (like Theodor Bundy) killed using their hands or very crude weapons like logs or rocks to beat their victims to death.

Why didn't he just buy a knife or something? What is the purpose for being so "hands on" and physical? One stab with a knife could kill, while beating someone with a rock or a tire iron could take many blows and might not even kill the victim. What is with that? Why do you think he chose to do that?

Saw something about this on MSNBC last night in fact. While there have been lots of serial killers who used conventional weapons to do their deeds (Son Of Sam, for example, used a gun), most prefer to use their hands or a knife simply because it's just more personal, and the victim takes longer to die, which gives many of them a sexual thrill. It's like a power trip to kill someone with your bare hands, or at close range with a knife or club or whatever.

xclusive · 05-28-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RayBonga

heterosexual - check

Yeah right lol

Neo_Maven · 05-28-2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RayBonga

white - check
heterosexual - check
males - check
in their twenties and thirties - check

Be afraid, be very afraid.

I'm not afraid. I know the real answers for you:

white - check
heterosexual - hell no
male - check
in their twenties and thirties - check

just kidding bonga buddy

Nismo · 05-28-2006, 12:45 PM

I thought most serial killers were usually in-the-closet homosexuals who were disgusted with their own sexual identity, thus resulting in their killing sprees.

Neo_Maven · 05-28-2006, 12:45 PM

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Yeah right lol

sorry x! you got the joke out faster (and funnier). sorry again bonga bonanza!

Matt 26z · 05-28-2006, 12:47 PM

Serial killers typically fit a profile that is considered to be the least likely suspect. Whereas a killer who fits the profile of a killer is taken in before he has a chance to strike again and again.

The unusual choice of weapons is probably because serial killers are smarter than regular murderers. There is no obvious murder weapon to be busted with if they use their hands or a common object.

Lazonby · 05-28-2006, 12:48 PM

It's funny. It's ok to generalise when we're talking about white people. However, if we were to say that 'most muggers are young black males aged 15-25' then we'd have all the bleeding heart libs in here telling us that we are 'racist'.

Neo_Maven · 05-28-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gman.357

Saw something about this on MSNBC last night in fact. While there have been lots of serial killers who used conventional weapons to do their deeds (Son Of Sam, for example, used a gun), most prefer to use their hands or a knife simply because it's just more personal, and the victim takes longer to die, which gives many of them a sexual thrill. It's like a power trip to kill someone with your bare hands, or at close range with a knife or club or whatever.

Thank you for that answer!

But, why do you think they risk being caught by taking risks that they could easily avoid? They risk injury, and not killing their victim, and all just to get more personal in the kill?

Do you think any of this is derived from the core instinct of man to hunt and kill? Like, a few wackos just don't get the full set of brain functions so they go with the most basic drives, sex, and violence?

Neo_Maven · 05-28-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Serial killers typically fit a profile that is considered to be the least likely suspect. Whereas a killer who fits the profile of a killer is taken in before he has a chance to strike again and again.

The unusual choice of weapons is probably because serial killers are smarter than regular murderers. There is no obvious murder weapon to be busted with if they use their hands or a common object.

Oh, that was a good answer! I never thought of that angle on it. Makes sense too.

But killing that way also greatly increases the risk of being injured or caught. i saw a ted bundy movie where he had a girl in his car and she kicked his ass, jumped out of the car and ran for help. When he broke into the college sorrority house, he grabbed a log on his way in and used it. It seemed to do the job but some of the girls I think lived after being beaten, etc.

Antonio · 05-28-2006, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

It's funny. It's ok to generalise when we're talking about white people. However, if we were to say that 'most muggers are young black males aged 15-25' then we'd have all the bleeding heart libs in here telling us that we are 'racist'.

huh? racial profiling is 100% ok with me

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dood that'll blow you up - arab
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Gman.357 · 05-28-2006, 01:06 PM

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Thank you for that answer!

But, why do you think they risk being caught by taking risks that they could easily avoid? They risk injury, and not killing their victim, and all just to get more personal in the kill?

Serial killers are usually very difficult to catch at first. Their murders are carefully considered, and often well planned out long before they do it. Sometimes they fantasize about the kill for years before they ever happen upon an opportunity to commit the deed. Most start off small, by killing or torturing animals, etc., and work their way up to humans.

As for taking risks, I don't think many of them do in the beginning. As they become more successful, they tend to become more sloppy, but they are usually VERY successful before they are suspected, much less caught. Don't forget, most serial killers are driven by sado-sexual urges beyond their control, and most live in a fantasy world where they are god-like compared to their victims. These guys aren't just killers, they're considered predators with a compulsion to kill in a particular way that satisfies their twisted sexual fantasies. So if the serial killer doesn't get "pleasure" from shooting someone, he's not going to use a gun to kill.

There's plenty of them who use multiple methods of killing though, because the process of killing isn't the part they enjoy. It's what happens before or after the kill that satisfies them (like Jeff Dahmer and some others).

2HousePlague · 05-28-2006, 01:07 PM

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huh? racial profiling is 100% ok with me

pedos, serial killers - white
dood that will kill you for 5 dolla or less - black
dood that'll blow you up - arab
signing up for my site - priceless !!!!

2hp

Neo_Maven · 05-28-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gman.357

Serial killers are usually very difficult to catch at first. Their murders are carefully considered, and often well planned out long before they do it. Sometimes they fantasize about the kill for years before they ever happen upon an opportunity to commit the deed. Most start off small, by killing or torturing animals, etc., and work their way up to humans.

As for taking risks, I don't think many of them do in the beginning. As they become more successful, they tend to become more sloppy, but they are usually VERY successful before they are suspected, much less caught. Don't forget, most serial killers are driven by sado-sexual urges beyond their control, and most live in a fantasy world where they are god-like compared to their victims. These guys aren't just killers, they're considered predators with a compulsion to kill in a particular way that satisfies their twisted sexual fantasies. So if the serial killer doesn't get "pleasure" from shooting someone, he's not going to use a gun to kill.

There's plenty of them who use multiple methods of killing though, because the process of killing isn't the part they enjoy. It's what happens before or after the kill that satisfies them (like Jeff Dahmer and some others).

Very good! That does make sense. Jeffery Dahmer used a dumbell to kill his first. I saw his movie "Dahmer" and that was another freak. He wanted a sex zombie so he would experiment by drilling holes into people's skulls and pouring chemical into the holes. Trying to kill part of the brain. Oh, that scares the shit out of me.

Gman.357 · 05-28-2006, 01:18 PM

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I thought most serial killers were usually in-the-closet homosexuals who were disgusted with their own sexual identity, thus resulting in their killing sprees.

I wouldn't say "most" of them are like that. Gacy claimed to be bisexual; Dahmer was gay, but he claims what drove him to kill was the need to have a sexual slave. In fact, he did try to accomplish this on at least one victim by drilling a hole in his head while he was still alive, and pouring acid into it, hoping to turn him into a sexual "zombie".

Gman.357 · 05-28-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo_Maven

Very good! That does make sense. Jeffery Dahmer used a dumbell to kill his first. I saw his movie "Dahmer" and that was another freak. He wanted a sex zombie so he would experiment by drilling holes into people's skulls and pouring chemical into the holes. Trying to kill part of the brain. Oh, that scares the shit out of me.

X-posted with you on that one I think.

Neo_Maven · 05-28-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

It's funny. It's ok to generalise when we're talking about white people. However, if we were to say that 'most muggers are young black males aged 15-25' then we'd have all the bleeding heart libs in here telling us that we are 'racist'.

But that is not true. So, saying that most muggers are young black males is just flat out wrong. It isn't even close to being true. The very thought of such a statement seems concocted by someone who is racially biased.

L0rdJuni0r · 05-28-2006, 01:28 PM

jeff dahmer like to drill into the heads of his victims and see how long they could stay alive while he raped them. he was a sick fuck. Jeff Dahmers Full story and i am warning you these crime scene photos are graphic

I dont understand how people can do these things? Its very sad

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-28-2006, 01:30 PM

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psili · 05-28-2006, 01:37 PM

Just opinions but:

I think serial killers kill because they are driven by psychopathic urges. Simply killing someone with a gun would probably not satisfy those urges. Getting as close and personal with their victims do. Like the previous posts of Dahmer drilling holes into victims' heads; that's about as personal as you can get. Other methods such as skinning, raping corpses, eating body parts, whatever... The serial killer gets as close as possible because that close contact satisfies an intense, personal urge that causes them to do what they do. Think of the natural urge to fuck and how close and personal that act is when fulfilled. Maybe serial killers need to fulfill something just like that, but in a fucking sick, twisted and morbid way *shrug*...

Neo_Maven · 05-28-2006, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by psili

Just opinions but:

I think serial killers kill because they are driven by psychopathic urges. Simply killing someone with a gun would probably not satisfy those urges. Getting as close and personal with their victims do. Like the previous posts of Dahmer drilling holes into victims' heads; that's about as personal as you can get. Other methods such as skinning, raping corpses, eating body parts, whatever... The serial killer gets as close as possible because that close contact satisfies an intense, personal urge that causes them to do what they do. Think of the natural urge to fuck and how close and personal that act is when fulfilled. Maybe serial killers need to fulfill something just like that, but in a fucking sick, twisted and morbid way *shrug*...

That answer is so fucking good. I wonder if it is a strong craving like the way a regular guy craves to fuck a hottie. That is probably what it is. Are they drug and alcohol abusers? Do serial killers do it while sober? You would think it would be similar to the regular guy who does shit while drunk that he wouldn't try while stone sober. Like hire a hooker or fuck a fat chick or whatever.

While the serial killer might take something and it would lower his inhibitions, etc?

psili · 05-28-2006, 02:00 PM

Dunno.

Drunk fucking's pretty fun, but sober sex is way better. However, sex on coke's pretty sweet too. My guess, in regard to serial killers, is that they'd get the best satisfaction dead sober. And I"m just basing my opinions off "American Psycho", the first and only book to give me nightmares.

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That answer is so fucking good. I wonder if it is a strong craving like the way a regular guy craves to fuck a hottie. That is probably what it is. Are they drug and alcohol abusers? Do serial killers do it while sober? You would think it would be similar to the regular guy who does shit while drunk that he wouldn't try while stone sober. Like hire a hooker or fuck a fat chick or whatever.

While the serial killer might take something and it would lower his inhibitions, etc?

Pleasurepays · 05-28-2006, 02:05 PM

most of the most successful serial killers were/are gay... not heterosexual.

crockett · 05-28-2006, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

It's funny. It's ok to generalise when we're talking about white people. However, if we were to say that 'most muggers are young black males aged 15-25' then we'd have all the bleeding heart libs in here telling us that we are 'racist'.

lol so true..

Malicious Biz · 05-28-2006, 02:14 PM

IT'S SHIT LIKE THIS THAT MAKES ME HATE WHITE PEOPLE.

Pleasurepays · 05-28-2006, 02:25 PM

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IT'S SHIT LIKE THIS THAT MAKES ME HATE WHITE PEOPLE.

your from kentucky... don't blame us. its the inbreeding where you're from that makes you hate white people.

Manowar · 05-28-2006, 02:51 PM

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amalekite · 05-28-2006, 03:21 PM

not true

Neo_Maven · 05-28-2006, 04:10 PM

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Dunno.

Drunk fucking's pretty fun, but sober sex is way better. However, sex on coke's pretty sweet too. My guess, in regard to serial killers, is that they'd get the best satisfaction dead sober. And I"m just basing my opinions off "American Psycho", the first and only book to give me nightmares.

I see what you are saying, but what if you consider that they resist their own desires. They know that they are doing evil and could get caught. So, when they get drunk or whatever, they lose some of that fear and go out and fulfill their sick desires? What about that theory?

psili · 05-28-2006, 04:13 PM

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I see what you are saying, but what if you consider that they resist their own desires. They know that they are doing evil and could get caught. So, when they get drunk or whatever, they lose some of that fear and go out and fulfill their sick desires? What about that theory?

Good questions. I'd venture to guess someone in the mindset of a serial killer just acts on their desires, regardless of right or wrong or their understanding of right or wrong. And anything that would desensitize the fulfillment of those desires isn't that beneficial. *shrug again*

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nico-t · 05-28-2006, 04:33 PM

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Serial killers tend to be white, heterosexual, males in their twenties and thirties.

phew, its a relieve to know im not too old yet

2HousePlague · 05-28-2006, 04:37 PM

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psili · 05-28-2006, 04:40 PM

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2HousePlague · 05-28-2006, 04:43 PM

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Reminds me of "Matthew Lillard .... Emmanuel "Cereal Killer" Goldstein" from Hackers.

I fooking love hackers, yo --

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James T. Kirk · 05-28-2006, 05:08 PM

Why would gfy ban neo maven? that guy didn't do anything wrong. why not ban some of the losers that have been on this board for years breaking the rules? What? Fuck YOU!

2HousePlague · 05-28-2006, 05:13 PM

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Why would gfy ban neo maven? that guy didn't do anything wrong. why not ban some of the losers that have been on this board for years breaking the rules? What? Fuck YOU!

What would Spock do?

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GatorB · 05-28-2006, 06:20 PM

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most of the most successful serial killers were/are gay... not heterosexual.

Bundy wasn't gay. The Green River Killer wasn't gay. Each one killed at least 40 times. Hell Bundy escaped from jail while on trial for murder and wasn't caught for years and managed to kill again and again. His downfall was that he was a lousy driver.

Most victims of serial killers are prostitutes because these guys have issues with women. Gay guys don't have "issues" with women per say.

When I was growing up I lived maybe 25 miles or less form where Gacy lived. I went to school with a guy whose cousin was killed by Gacy and my mom worked with the mother of the same victim.

kane · 05-28-2006, 06:33 PM

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Oh, that was a good answer! I never thought of that angle on it. Makes sense too.

But killing that way also greatly increases the risk of being injured or caught. i saw a ted bundy movie where he had a girl in his car and she kicked his ass, jumped out of the car and ran for help. When he broke into the college sorrority house, he grabbed a log on his way in and used it. It seemed to do the job but some of the girls I think lived after being beaten, etc.

there is a great book called mindhunter you should read. It is the biography of John Douglas who is a pioneer in criminal profiling and serial killer profiling. He says that deep in the subconscious these guys know what they are doing is wrong and they have getting caught on their minds but the urge to carry out the act is far more powerful so their guilt doesn?t stop them. Like other?s have posted using their hands and things like that can increase the chance of getting caught, but whatever it is that is driving them is far more intense then common sense.

He also says that killing for these guys is like drug addiction. At first they kill a person and quenches the need to do it for a while then as they kill more and more often the ?cooldown period? gets shorter and shorter. Much like a drug addict starts with a little coke and pretty soon they need more and more to get them high because they build a tolerance to it. Many of them start to get sloppy when the urges get more and more intense which leads to their getting caught

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Neo_Maven New owner of GFY Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 42	Serial killers tend to be white, heterosexual, males in their twenties and thirties. OK NOW, why is it that some serial killers (like Theodor Bundy) killed using their hands or very crude weapons like logs or rocks to beat their victims to death. Why didn't he just buy a knife or something? What is the purpose for being so "hands on" and physical? One stab with a knife could kill, while beating someone with a rock or a tire iron could take many blows and might not even kill the victim. What is with that? Why do you think he chose to do that?

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