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Old 05-25-2006, 02:48 PM   #1
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iBill and Etelegate owners going to jail soon

iBill, without my permission, transferred all my rebills to etelegate a month and half ago. As of today, Etelegate owes me a little over $3000. I have called etelegate many times, and always its someone at iBill who answers my calls. They are playing the same game as they did with me before.

Yesterday, I contacted the FTC, and they transferred me to the office of the FBI. I spoke to an agent there, and he took down all my information and told me to send him my records for money owed from iBill and Etelegate, which I did.

Today, the agent called me back. And here is what he said.

Upon investigation of the above matter, the FBI fells that this issue is of interest, and an agent will be assigned to review your case and to take further action against the above named companies and its owners.

Anyone who was owed money by iBill and now is owed money by Etelegate should keep an eye on this board, as I will post the name and contact information of the FBI agent once I have it.

To the owners of iBill and Etelegate: You are gona be someone's bitch soon as you serve time in federal prison.
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Thats a great initiative man - lets hope these fuckers get what they deserve once and for all.
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Today, the agent called me back. And here is what he said.

Upon investigation of the above matter, the FBI fells that this issue is of interest, and an agent will be assigned to review your case and to take further action against the above named companies and its owners.
Anyone who was owed money by iBill and now is owed money by Etelegate should keep an eye on this board, as I will post the name and contact information of the FBI agent once I have it.
To the owners of iBill and Etelegate: You are gona be someone's bitch soon as you serve time in federal prison.

good shit, follow-up with that...

Ibill had a booth in vegas... wtf.. I asked the person in the booth
I said, hey buddy where are your armed guards you must have the a death wish to work for that company I said, and walked away while I dropped a grenade . lol
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Good thinking.
It might not bring people the cash theyre owed, but at least it might stop them...
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After all the fake drama and fake nicks I've seen on the boards in the past 6 years, I have to admit that a small part of me suspects this is just more fiction.

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let me get this straight ; you call the agent. He calls you back. You spend time talking with this agent.
YOU DONT GET HIS NAME AND PHONE NUMBER???????
CAN WE GET A SMALL BREAK HERE PLEASE??? JUST A LITTLE ONE.......
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let me get this straight ; you call the agent. He calls you back. You spend time talking with this agent.
YOU DONT GET HIS NAME AND PHONE NUMBER???????
CAN WE GET A SMALL BREAK HERE PLEASE??? JUST A LITTLE ONE.......
The agent that called me is not the one who will be working the case. They will assign a special agent to this case and when they do, I will get his name and number. Yngone, you should understand the posted subject before you comment.
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So the FBI and feds have waited all this time to start looking into iBill - until someone on GFY called them just the other day?

Remarkable.
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Still waiting about 5k from them. ( Hope they will get their punishment!
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So the FBI and feds have waited all this time to start looking into iBill - until someone on GFY called them just the other day?

Remarkable.

My thoughts exactly.
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Old 05-26-2006, 09:27 AM   #16
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Ibill was doing legal business, and any company can defult on its payments. But when you change a company name to a new name and continue to swindle money from creditors, than its a diffrent story. In this case, they simply changed their name, moved all my rebills and thousands of others to the new company, and continued to keep all the money that users paid to enter my site and other sites. This is called fraud, and its very easy to prove.

to anyone who thinks this is a bullshit posting, come back in a few days and you will have the agent name, badge number, and contact information. Also, anyone who got his rebills transfered to etelegate and has not been paid by them, should contact this agent. Its time for this sad issue to be put to rest.
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Old 05-26-2006, 10:24 AM   #17
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seems like a clear case of fraud to me.
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sounds good, please post the info so i can contact them as they are pulling this shit with me as well.
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Hmmmm I thought they were 2 seperate companies ... not 1 company with a name change ...

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If I was doing business with Bell South for my phone line, cancelled the line/account and a month later I start getting bills from Vonage because they are handling all the billing for BellSouth and decided to rebill the entire database, I'd say the streams of ethics and privacy have definately been crossed. Consumer data banks and financial information can only be shared/exchanged under very strict federal laws and Visa regulations. There are too many fine lines involved to not take a closer look at what is going on here.
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Don't forget, Etelegate adds a 1.99 fee to those rebills... So people who signed up to sites agreeing to pay $20.00 a month will all of a sudden be charged nearly $22, withouth their authorization. As far as I know, that's illegal right there.
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Thats a great initiative man - lets hope these fuckers get what they deserve once and for all.
those fucking bastards get what they deserve.
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well, if you've somehow motivated the FBI to go after Spaniak in the states then bully for you, but sorry to have to break it to you friend... iBill and Etelegate sadly are not the same entity. iBill is indeed guilty of actually selling off their customer base to a seperate and foreign entity w/out permission and/or notice... and i take no pleasure in being the bearer of ill news, but...

Etelegate = VolPay

i wish the FBI good luck hauling Cory Tyler out of the Caribbean to face justice in the US..
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Damn ibill oes me major rebills too... fucking scammers.
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well, if you've somehow motivated the FBI to go after Spaniak in the states then bully for you, but sorry to have to break it to you friend... iBill and Etelegate sadly are not the same entity. iBill is indeed guilty of actually selling off their customer base to a seperate and foreign entity w/out permission and/or notice... and i take no pleasure in being the bearer of ill news, but...

Etelegate = VolPay

i wish the FBI good luck hauling Cory Tyler out of the Caribbean to face justice in the US..
If that's the case (and not saying it isn't)....then why's iBill still handling the phones when you try and contact Etelegate?

I can certainly understand why everyone's thinking they're one and the same entity these days.
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well, if you've somehow motivated the FBI to go after Spaniak in the states then bully for you, but sorry to have to break it to you friend... iBill and Etelegate sadly are not the same entity. iBill is indeed guilty of actually selling off their customer base to a seperate and foreign entity w/out permission and/or notice... and i take no pleasure in being the bearer of ill news, but...

Etelegate = VolPay

i wish the FBI good luck hauling Cory Tyler out of the Caribbean to face justice in the US..
etelgate=volpay? Either way the fuckers are going down...legally or illegally im sure there gnna pay a price for the millions they stole...dont be surprised if ole cory tyler is found face down in a pile of donkey shit with a coconut shoved in his ass
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If that's the case (and not saying it isn't)....then why's iBill still handling the phones when you try and contact Etelegate?

I can certainly understand why everyone's thinking they're one and the same entity these days.
from what i can gather, it seems any support tickets seem to be forwarded to 'someone' at iBill to be handled, as supposedly all merchants transferred over to Etelegate are still iBill customers in some fashion, as they are to receive a percentage of all commerce processed for said accounts.

the incestuous relationship between iBill and Etelegate is hard to fathom, it is possible that either iBill actually purchased Etelegates entire operation (along w/ its prestigious mail-drop in London, not to mention the dissolved UK corporation), or is just assuming all roles of support (ha!) and maintenance of any transferred accounts.

it is fact though, Etelegate was opened by the irrascable Cory Tyler of VolPay antics and fame, take that for what you will w/ the ongoing iBill legacy of lunacy..

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lol, just noticed that bit. a nice mental picture for any previous VolPay customers i'm sure..!

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Bump for the iBill posse - hope matters are cleared for all.

After all this time I still can't figure why anyone goes for/with iBill.

One client of ours INSISTED on using iBill's processing plus merchant gateway... took us a couple weeks contacting their tech dept. to get documentation and postback/back-end stuff... when everything was finally ready, enabled, launched, online, here-comes-da-traffic they shut down that service - no warning, no time, just no processing one day with an email referring you to a new account rep at another billing company (don't want to implicate them here - they seem innocent).

WTF?
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Whether this is linked or not (eTelegate = Volpay) - Cory Tyler (Volpay) needs to get his ass in order and stop hiding behind mail drop addresses.

We supposed to trust banks that only issue maildrop addresses next?? Don't think so.
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Here's some bedtime reading to take a few folks down iBill bad memory lane.

Classic shit - especially the records of email on the lower page..

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When we talked to ibill last year at internext they wanted us to bring our business back to them so that they could pay us back in installments. Trust them with more of our money? Not likely.
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posting this type of thing on here , may help ibill , you shouldent discuss it untill its over, Im sure if the fbi knew you posted this they may take it less seroius
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let me get this straight ; you call the agent. He calls you back. You spend time talking with this agent.
YOU DONT GET HIS NAME AND PHONE NUMBER???????
CAN WE GET A SMALL BREAK HERE PLEASE??? JUST A LITTLE ONE.......
yeah that part makes me think you're bogus.. I hope you aren't
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Ibill was doing legal business, and any company can defult on its payments. But when you change a company name to a new name and continue to swindle money from creditors, than its a diffrent story. In this case, they simply changed their name, moved all my rebills and thousands of others to the new company, and continued to keep all the money that users paid to enter my site and other sites. This is called fraud, and its very easy to prove.

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fair enough...
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Old 05-28-2006, 09:38 AM   #48
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Old 05-28-2006, 10:09 AM   #49
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Old 05-30-2006, 01:55 PM   #50
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FOLLOW UP: Today I called the FBI regarding the complaint I filled aginst IBILL and ETELEGATE. They are still looking into the matter. I asked the agent if its ok to post his name here so other webmasters can call him to file omplaint aginst the asholes. He said that all webmasters owed money by etelegate should file a complaint at the Internet Crime Complaint Center http://www.ic3.gov/ This is the direct link to the form you need http://complaint.ic3.gov/Default.aspx

Anyone who got his rebills transfered from IBILL to ETELEGATE, and who has not been paid by ETELEGATE should file ASAP. This is the only way to put the mother fuckers in jail.

Please file today, dont let the bastards enjoy your hard earned money.
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