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Fletch XXX · 04-11-2002, 10:53 PM

Its only sleazy because people are in it for the wrong reasons.

TheFLY · 04-11-2002, 10:55 PM

THE
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nemesis · 04-11-2002, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY

That's pretty funny that you are here writing this... I looked in the Florida Alligator and it seems like everyone is ready to bail by May 1st ;) Just when I'll be arriving ;)

I have a place lined up already through a friend for $325 but I'm still considering all my options...

So do you have roomates for $485? I bet that place has a nice pool and hotties all over the place ;) My credit sucks though so if I'd have to sign a sublease they probably would not accept me -- I could pay you up front for the whole summer but I'm not sure what type of contract you are dealing with... my ICQ# is 1622420

dude, I am about to go to bed, I will icq you tomorrow. As for the questions 485 is the rent of the single bedroom in a 3 bedroom apartment. It is nice complex with a huge pool, gym and tennis courts. All utilities are included so you don't need to pay elec, water,cable or any other shit (it also includes T1 connection and a huge tv in the living room apt is fully furnished too). Roommates are leaving for the summer. SO, you will be alone in the apartment and you are not responsible for others payments (individual lease).I will check the dates of finals and i will let ya know thru icq.

Gary · 04-11-2002, 11:14 PM

Good luck SD, i really hope everything works out for you. From your post above, sounds like you got a good plan in place. It wont be easy, but if you want your family back, it sure sounds like the best way to do it.

If you get online at some point, make sure you let us know how things went.

Take care

Hot Tropical Babes · 04-11-2002, 11:17 PM

Space,
I had a feeling when i first read your post that the "porn" could be the problem (with mom and wife) Some people don't digest it well. I keep "business" to myself. Because my family would freak and think I am some kind of sex freak. I grew up in a christian envirement and I respect my parents alot. however I do have different views. I started getting into this business 4 years ago when I was pregnant. I became a diabetic and could not work, due to having a "high risk pregnancy". So I started learning html and frankly I enjoyed surfing

So I thought what the hell, I can do this,, and I learned it. It became very profitable for me and my family. I was alarmed to read that your daughter was spending alot of time out of your home. I guess I am a over protective Mom and I refuse for my daughter to visit anywhere without knowing, and having say when she will return.
This business does take an extreme amount of time online, and some people dont and refuse to understand. In the future, I would be very discrete in order to protect yourself. I do feel bad for your situation, but you are healthy and willing and from what it looks like have many friends. At first I was somewhat iffy about it all due to the constant shit stirred up on here, but with all that aside i am being straight with you. Good Luck Man.

Lanie~*~

Rictor · 04-11-2002, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by buster
space dog

ive read your post and i have not read the rest
i usually dont say much around here but here it goes.

GET YOUR FUCKING HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSSSSSS

JION THE UNITED STATES MILITARY THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU AND IT WILL GIVE YOU 4 YEARS OF STRUCTURE WITCH IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED IT . IT WILL ALSO ALLOW YOU TO HAVE YOUR FAMILY WITH YOU AFTER BOOT CAMP.

YOU LIVE IN FUCKING MAINE SIGN UP ON A FISHING BOAT. GO ON A 4 MONTH TOUR AND COME BACK HOME WITH A NICE CHUNK OF CHANGE.

FUCKING PUSH FREEEZINE BUCKS , FUCK A MORON CAN MAKE 100 BUCKS A DAY WITH THE PROGRAM!!! PUT UP A PAGE LIKE THIS http://www.pic4unow.com/lostcuase.htm at the end of a pop up string. WORKS PRETTY GOOD

WALK YOUR FUCKING ASS OVER TO A GROCERY STORE AND OFFER TO CLEAN OUT THE MEAT LOCKER. MOST STORES PAY 1 HUNDRED FOR IT.

YOU LIVE IN A BEACH TOWN WITCH MEANS HOUSES NEED TO BE PAINTED IN THE SPRING. WEEDS NEED TO BE PULLED DOG SHIT HAS TO BE FUCKING PICKED UP ALL SMALL JOBS YOU CAN NAME YOUR PRICE FOR.

YOU NOW WHY MOST PEOPLE CANT MAKE MONEY ITS BECUASE THEY ARE WAITING FOR SOME ONE TO HAND IT TO THEM

GET THE FUCK OFF YOUR ASS AND BE A MAN AND MAKE THE SITUTION RIGHT IF YOU LOVE YOUR WIFE AND KIDS YOU WILL GO DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES. .BUT THATS THE PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE ANY MORE THEY HAVE NO WORK ETHICS AND NO DRIVE.

FUCK THERE ARE SOME MANY SMART INTELLEGENT PEOPLE AROUND HERE AND ITS JUST ASHAME MOST DONT HAVE DRIVE.
\
IVE BEEN IN THIS GAME 7 MONTHS BOUGHT MY FIRST PC LAST JULY AND SET A GOAL FOR MY SELF TO REACH 1000 RECCURING MEMBERS IN A YEAR. AND IM ALITTLE BEHIND MY GOAL WITH 450 BUT ITS MY GOAL AND IM GONNA WORK 7 DAYS A WEEK TILL I GET THERE, AND IVE FUCKING DONE IT ALL BY MYSELF AND I DONT THINK ONE PERSON ONE THIS BOARD OR ANY BOARD HAS DONE IT FOR ME.

SO ONCE AGAIN GET OFF YOUR ASS AND GO DO WHATS RIGHT AND IF IT MEANS YOUR WIFE AND KIDS LIVING SOMEWHERE SAFE TILL YOU GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER THEN THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE.,

I MEAN NO HARM FROM THIS POST
AND WISH YOU GOOD LUCK

Damn straight.

vegasdude · 04-12-2002, 02:24 AM

good luck SPACEY!

kush · 04-12-2002, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog
I have $300, plus whatever amount sleazydream was kind enough to send.. I should have it in the mail sometime..

WHAT? That FUCK is sending you money?
Now I KNOW this thread is bullshit.

..... and if he's really sending you cash (a not just a check for $1 to just be a prick) then I'll be damned and I might just owe someone a personal apology (After all - there's the remote possibly that Sleazy is a nice guy and just gots off to the shit he posts....)

Hot damn.

kush · 04-12-2002, 02:48 AM

BTW SpaceDog I wish you the best; I think I understand you

LoveAsianChicks · 04-12-2002, 02:55 AM

Good Luck man.
I hope you can get your family back & things start going better.

mule · 04-12-2002, 03:02 AM

Spacedog, best of luck, man! You can do it, it'll take time, but you have the energy, just keep focused on your goal.
And keep in touch!

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 04-12-2002, 03:04 AM

tekart · 04-12-2002, 03:14 AM

I don't think you have to wait to do this biz if you have kids...there's alot of worse things to do with kids around then 'porn'....I know of a gent who posts to this board who's got a few kids and he does a damn fine job keeping what he does seperate from his kids....plus this biz is HELPING his kids out...but I do think that each person has to make his/her own decission about doing this biz w/kids and at what age they are!

Like it's been said before, some people just don't like this industry and/or don't digest it well.

To Spacedog:

Good luck w/whatever you choose to do! This biz will be here when you return! (I know it'll be soon!)

If you need anything, feel free to hit me up on ICQ (157173543)and I'll see what I can do for ya bro!

TekArt

Tipsy · 04-12-2002, 03:19 AM

First time I've posted in this thread as it seemed too busy as it was. There was a lot of bullshit in the past and badly thought out posts but you were genuinely improving on both counts.

Whatever happened before though it's just fucked up to wish you ill in this situation. Best of luck for the future!

If porn isn't/wasn't a problemin your household, if you can at all help it don't sell your domains or your PC! Keep going and this shit will eventually make you far more than any low-paid crap job even doing it evenings only.

If porn was any part of you losing the wife and kids though then maybe staying in this business isn't such a good idea. Only you know. Either way, when you get a connection back come and post!

I'm usually kicking around on ICQ 36884636 when it actually decides to work properly although stay invisible so msg if you need anything. There's always cybercafes until you get a connection back.

the bulldog · 04-12-2002, 03:24 AM

FUCK SPACEDOG !!!!

Hes a CHEATER and a LIER !!
FUcking Child Beating and Wife Abusing Piece of Shit!!

Gemini · 04-12-2002, 03:34 AM

BD,,, you just crossed a line you can never erase. You had better NEVER come stateside, And I mean NEVER.

I am SOOO sorry I stuck up for your tailend last fall. I should have let you get sunk then. Now I'll see you go down the tubes for sure.

First your ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY hits a day. Not the 180k you bragged on.

Hmmm maybe someone like the hun might see your bandwidth and raise you. Know anything about poker you little jerk? Hoyles has a book on the above term, IF you can read (since you obviously can't type IE: ne1, u, etc) you can see what see you and raise MEANS.

What a little troublemaking pr*ck.

the bulldog · 04-12-2002, 03:42 AM

LOL! whatever

Ill come and go into and from the usa as i like..... You think that A hick like u is going to scare me. Ohhh no, too scared, ill never come to the states cos some lame bitch threatened me. oohhhhhhhh no. fuck off. lesbian.

btw Anyone Touches My Site and Ill just ReDirect the Load elsewhere.
Like uhhhhh rude bitch..... or one of your site gemini. Howmuch do you and tam pay per gig and Would you care for 10 million hun impressions at your pergig Rate??

bhutocracy · 04-12-2002, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tekart
I don't think you have to wait to do this biz if you have kids...there's alot of worse things to do with kids around then 'porn'....I know of a gent who posts to this board who's got a few kids and he does a damn fine job keeping what he does seperate from his kids....plus this biz is HELPING his kids out...but I do think that each person has to make his/her own decission about doing this biz w/kids and at what age they are!

i meant to take that comment to task too.. any job that lets you stay at home and share the responsibility of child rearing is a good one IMHO.

Wilbo · 04-12-2002, 05:02 AM

Good luck Spacedog. Keep your nose to the grindstone and do the right thing. You'll be surprised how much your life improves.

DarkJedi · 04-12-2002, 06:54 AM

Wow looks like spacedog got himself in real shit..... i had a fire in my place once, and its VERY fucking bad, trust me.

Anyways, spacedog could have gotten my sympathy, if he were not such an ass. His first post on the board was "how to find a free host that allows hotlinking pictures" Well, i pointed out to him that it was not nice to make other people pay for your BW and he just sent me to hell. Nice atitude for a newbie. His other posts just prove his arrogance.

and BTW:

i think mule = spacedog, can anyone check this ?

Quote:

Originally posted by mule
Spacedog, best of luck, man! You can do it, it'll take time, but you have the energy, just keep focused on your goal.
And keep in touch!

Sly_RJ · 04-12-2002, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the bulldog
FUCK SPACEDOG !!!!

Hes a CHEATER and a LIER !!
FUcking Child Beating and Wife Abusing Piece of Shit!!

You're a twat. How many posts have you made bashing SD? Make one post, or have an actual conversation, then shut the fuck up.

Get a life.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 04-12-2002, 10:14 AM

Mule is NOT spacedog
Unlless Spacedog has an Amsterdam telephone exchange, and is a master at disguising his voice ...

I have had conversations with BOTH of them

mule · 04-12-2002, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi

and BTW:

i think mule = spacedog, can anyone check this ?

Oh shit! You're right, it happened without me even noticing! A symbiosis, a mind-meld, a furry fusion with the cosmic canine! (? Hungryman) I looked in the mirror this morning, and Laika stared back at me!

Nope, I'm me...hit me up on ICQ if you have any doubts

-=HOAX=- · 04-12-2002, 11:21 AM

The five colours blind the eye.
The five tones deafen the ear.
The five flavours dull the taste.
Racing and hunting madden the mind.
Precious things lead one astray.

Therefore the sage is guided by what he feels and not by what he sees.
He lets go of that and chooses this.

SpaceDog if you read this write it down and carry it with you as you hitchhike...

Wow, I think this is the first time I've ever posted in an SD related thread.

mule · 04-12-2002, 11:24 AM

I ching?

-=HOAX=- · 04-12-2002, 11:36 AM

Lao Tsu actually...I can't remember where I picked it up...it may be in the tao te ching tho...it was a good one from my homeless days so I figured it would be applicable...

Gemini · 04-12-2002, 11:52 AM

**Ill come and go into and from the usa as i like**

Shouldn't that read "When Mama allows me to go bye bye on my own?"

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 04-12-2002, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mule

Oh shit! You're right, it happened without me even noticing! A symbiosis, a mind-meld, a furry fusion with the cosmic canine! (? Hungryman) I looked in the mirror this morning, and Laika stared back at me!

Nope, I'm me...hit me up on ICQ if you have any doubts

Heeheehee
Thanks for givin me props Brother ... more than some un-named folks 'round here do ... Right DH ?? Hahahahaaa

mule · 04-12-2002, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HOAX=-
it may be in the tao te ching tho

Yep, that'll be it...brought back some very hazy memories

ldinternet · 04-12-2002, 11:57 AM

hahahahaha

gemini + bulldog =

mule · 04-12-2002, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
hahahahaha

gemini + bulldog =

LOL, ldinternet, I think you've just made yourself unpopular with at least two people

Fletch XXX · 04-12-2002, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kush

WHAT? That FUCK is sending you money?
Now I KNOW this thread is bullshit.

..... and if he's really sending you cash (a not just a check for $1 to just be a prick) then I'll be damned and I might just owe someone a personal apology (After all - there's the remote possibly that Sleazy is a nice guy and just gots off to the shit he posts....)

Hot damn.

I dont Sleazy personally, never even talked to him, but his posts in regards to Spacedog and other "moral" things have always been along the lines of good charachter.

IN addition - I started a thread last night....
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=56605

Announcing the following as quoted from the previously mentioned thread...
-------------------------------------------------------------

Just figured I would let everyone here know that I have taken over http://www.69khz.com , which used to belong to Spacedog, but is now part of the Superbooger Alliance.

Not that it matters or ya care, but wanted to make it public.

Ill need a few days to change a few things, other than that... thanks for your time.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Also.... the Site will remain is, all Spaceys ref codes will remain, and all of Spacey's link obligations will remain the same, links to Aaronm and Hosting Extreme will remain as he promised them,in exchange for whatever services they rendered....

Good Luck Spacey.

Brad Mitchell · 04-12-2002, 01:59 PM

My two cents.

Spacedog I don't give a fuck about what anyone here on the board is whining or bitching about. You came through on the project I paid you for and exceeded my expectations. If you need full time skilled web employment in Massachusetts I may know someone that needs a webmaster.

Aside from that... Get gainful employment and a roof over your head and then pick up the pieces. Your wife and kids are the most important thing but it doesn't appear you can have that back until you get a job and a permanent residence.

May the best of luck be on your side SD! There's second chances for everyone, thank god for that

Brad
Toll Free 866-746-3674

Fletch XXX · 04-12-2002, 02:02 PM

Hey Brad in case you and Spacey had an exchange with your link on http://www.69khz.com I wanna let you know, i wont be changing it, and will leave it up...

BTW you need someone to take over? hehehe

spacedog · 04-13-2002, 04:09 AM

Don't look like saving my relationship is an option

I just got back.. what a complete waste of time.... I left here yesterday @ noon, arrived in salem @ 6pm.. I knocked on my wife's mothers door, & she & my wife both said GO AWAY!! & they said they were calling the police, which they did.. & then I was served a restraining order.... FUCK!! How do you communicate to someone that you are sorry, & that things will be different when they pull this bullshit... this just hurts me.. If she left my daughter with me, then I'd feel a little better.. they are my babies too.. why does she have to take her from me like that.. I love her so much, & she loves me.. she's only hurting her as well as hurting me.. I don't want my little girl to be hurting & confused.. she's too little to understand.. this is not fair.. I cant go through this... I lost 2 children before, & it nearly killed me.. my 3rd child, my 1st with my wife, is the one who brought me out of despair & depression of my previous loss, & I am so attached to her.. It is killing me inside right now to fear that I may not see her again, or for a very long time.. now I'm just going crazy again.. I thought I had a plan, but now I'm so fricken depressed & messed up inside, I don't know anymore.. all I know now is hurt & sad.. It took a very long time for me to recover emotionally & mentally from the loss of my first two children, & slowly I healed a little, but still always carry them in my heart & think about them.. what was left of my heart, I fear has just been ripped out of me, & now the pain is more than I can take..,. I wanna scream.... I even fucking prayed to god who stood by & watched me beg & plea for his help.. I'm starting to crack & I tried to have faith, but after today, I feel hopeless... I didnt even get 2 words out of my mouth.. I knocked, & her & her mom told me to leave, & I said why, & then I heard them on phone calling police, so I left, & then cops drove up to me walking away & asked me questions, & told me she has a restraining order, & they gave me a copy.. how do i convince her that things are going to work out & get better if I can't contact her.. this is confusing me... I know I shouldnt spill my guts like this, but I just need to express myself, cuz If I just bottle it up inside, it just hurts more.. Well, after the police left, I tried to contact a friend.. he moved.. I couldnt find him.. went to visit another old pal.. he wasnt home.. I wandered for hours.. hoping to find someone to talk to, & nobody was around.. I feel so alone & distraught.. it's so empty here.. so quiet.. I don't like it... I'm so confused again.. what if I give up on this biz, & she still dont come back?? Then I am giving it up for nothing.. but if I stay, I can keep trying & eventually make a healthy income..

Well... I have to go to court on the 22nd to contest the restraining order.. I don't know how the process works, but I hope so much I can get through to her & convince her that things will be different & win her heart again.. & I will leave porn out of my family & relationship... but if she still wont come back, then It's going to hurt me so much, & my children will suffer as well, & that hurts me yet again some more, so much fucking hurt... I hate this shit....what if I'm not allowed to see my babies.. I'll fucking die inside... I won't be able to bear that.. NOOO!!!!!!!

hyper · 04-13-2002, 04:31 AM

spacedog, the rearend for your car is almost impossible to find.
65 and 66 ONLY.

my brother said they had one about 2 weeks ago but has been since crushed. i guess they don't save them that much.

there is a place in AZ that sells old buick parts, but shipping would be $$. i have one more place here to check out will let you know.

i found alot of good cars. but i cant get one cheap enough
between $700 and $1200 is the going rate.

still looking on that.

keep the faith bro. just handle one problem at a time. dont try to solve everything at once or you'll go crazy.

meRx · 04-13-2002, 04:37 AM

SD, I truly dont know what to say. Im in a situation very simular to you (hence my signature) things seem to be looking up very slowly for me as i hope someday it will for you. Be strong , dont do anything stoopid . Sell your shit and get a job man. I CANNOT STAND to see people in this state cause i KNOW how it feels and it TRUELY sucks. If you get a paypal account going please post it.
I hope everything works out for your kids and yourself. KEEP the biz , trust me it pays off.

If this is a plot to earn fast cash lying through your ass then
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE. You need to go to a street , put your teeth on the curb and tell the nearest person to kick toward the back of your head with all thier might.

kangaroo · 04-13-2002, 04:44 AM

Space!! Cheerfull
Keep going your work on web

GOOD LUCK!!

Sly_RJ · 04-13-2002, 05:03 AM

Tough break SD. Looks like you have 9 days of hell coming up. When you go to court, I'm sure they'll mention something about porn which will make you look like shit. But don't worry about it. You have until then to decide whether you're really out of the biz or not. If you are out, fine, tell the judge that, I'm sure he will like it. If you do stay in, that's fine too, but you'll need to use your persuasion skills and convince the judge that your involvement with porn will have no affect on your family life and will actually create more time for you to spend with your children.

If your wife says that all you do is work on the computer all day, be sure to tell the judge EVERYTHING. You're online all day for a reason: to make money for the family. If it were me, I would be pretty pissed at my wife right now. She walked out on you, with your children (I think in some cases this can even be considered kidnapping), avoiding all financial responsibility. Fuck! You're stuck with rent and all the bills while she runs to mommy's. And then has the nerve to prevent you from seeing your kids for no clear reason.

I do have one question though, on what grounds are all these restraining orders? You're leaving out a huge chunk of the story. When I filed a restraining order I had to detail everything. When the person received the order they were able to read and see the grounds, that IS their right. As it is your right to know what grounds the restraining order is based on.

Hit me up on ICQ if you have any more questions about how the court process goes. This isn't the end of the world, it's only a bump in the road.

nickdark · 04-13-2002, 07:53 AM

Yet again the usual GFY morons are showing their pencil neck immaturity..much to the hilarity of those who read this board for their own amusement....cant you tough bigshots afford a few bucks after your dickhead bandwidth bills.. if its true ..help him ...if its not ..who cares?...post your bank details SD..I'll send a few $$......Keep it up you guys...youre the best at it !..and we laugh from afar.

wankers.

vegasdude · 04-13-2002, 08:45 AM

SPACEY try sending her a letter.....

Im ready to bet that she will read it..... she will consider throwing it out but in the end she will read it - might save u from the court...

its a longshot BUT if u love her u have to try whatever you can 2 get her to see how you feelz!

Vegas

Fletch XXX · 04-13-2002, 10:51 AM

Spacey - if you see this hit me up on icq and email me or something regarding the transfer...

spacedog · 04-13-2002, 04:47 PM

Eric.. please send the dvd player c/o pipecrew...

meRx & those of you that offered to help..

I don't have means to do paypal.. but any help I can get is extremely appreciated & will help me a great deal in sorting problems out & getting my life back in order..

jody crockett
84 riverside dr
wells, maine. 04090 usa

after 4/20 all mail will be forwarded to a po box in whatever town/city I move to..

Hyper.. how do I contact you.. I appreciate how you're trying to help me, & would like to be able to reach you after my internet connection gets cut off...

vegasdude.. I sent a letter right before I was told to not contact her.. I just hope she gets it & reads it.. I also hope her mother dont throw it away.. I sent it to her in the mail before I got the restraining order & hope they dont think I sent it after...fuck.. I just want her to know I love her & will do anything I can to make her happy.. that's why I thought quitting this biz would be best.. to make her happy.. her being happy & my daughters in my life, with me at home is happiness enough for me.. I hate feeling so helpless.. I cant even go into the girls' room to pack things without freaking out & screaming & breaking down.. these next 9 days til court are going to be extremely tough to handle. I just hope things will work out..

anyway.. Selling my computer & things is going to be tough because I have no way to get to a pawnshop...
my computer is still for sale.. best offer.. I hope for $800 or BO I can get.. western union & I will ship same day I get $$ & send via ups.. My time online is running out & I am panicking..
still want to sell domains http://xxx-revenue.com & http://bluehentai.com

Sexymail · 04-13-2002, 06:22 PM

even though you are a cock sucker spacedog, i will tell you this from experience. I went to jail for breaking a restraining order over the telephone, so whatever you do, dont call the bitch, jail isnt to much fun, trust me. As far as contesting the order on the 22nd, if she has a lawyer, i suggest you get one aswell, I took a lawyer to mine and i came out of the civil court not to bad, the criminal court is another issue, but BRING A LAWYER if she has one, trust me nigga. Nothing like arguing over shit with a guy with a masters and a license to argue over petty shit

Gemini · 04-13-2002, 06:46 PM

Call and track down the family court and file a writ to have access to your kids. Do it Monday morning if they aren't open tomorrow SD. You have a legal right to see them and she will have to prove that you are doing something before they refuse your plea.

Offer to do it under supervision if they try to deny your request and also ask the court to assign the supervision done by someone FROM the courts... not your wife or any family members. That can help you later on in any custody battles.

Also request from the issuing court what the reason for the TRO being filed is. Be ready to face the judge, but you need the reason for its issuance before seeing the court. That way you can have a defense planned. Walk in empty handed and you'll lose.

phogirl69 · 04-13-2002, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog
Eric.. please send the dvd player c/o pipecrew...

meRx & those of you that offered to help..

I don't have means to do paypal.. but any help I can get is extremely appreciated & will help me a great deal in sorting problems out & getting my life back in order..

jody crockett
84 riverside dr
wells, maine. 04090 usa

after 4/20 all mail will be forwarded to a po box in whatever town/city I move to..

Hyper.. how do I contact you.. I appreciate how you're trying to help me, & would like to be able to reach you after my internet connection gets cut off...

vegasdude.. I sent a letter right before I was told to not contact her.. I just hope she gets it & reads it.. I also hope her mother dont throw it away.. I sent it to her in the mail before I got the restraining order & hope they dont think I sent it after...fuck.. I just want her to know I love her & will do anything I can to make her happy.. that's why I thought quitting this biz would be best.. to make her happy.. her being happy & my daughters in my life, with me at home is happiness enough for me.. I hate feeling so helpless.. I cant even go into the girls' room to pack things without freaking out & screaming & breaking down.. these next 9 days til court are going to be extremely tough to handle. I just hope things will work out..

anyway.. Selling my computer & things is going to be tough because I have no way to get to a pawnshop...
my computer is still for sale.. best offer.. I hope for $800 or BO I can get.. western union & I will ship same day I get $$ & send via ups.. My time online is running out & I am panicking..
still want to sell domains http://xxx-revenue.com & http://bluehentai.com

Don't sell your domains, you should leave them up.... If you want I can host them for you for free.... I won't change anything and leave it the way it is. My opinion only..... save the tour on blue hentai in a different directory and put up a fpa and put some metas in....that way you might even get some sales from the SE's... Anyways, if you want I'll even do it for you if you want... since you'll loose your internet connection soon.
Or I'll leave your domains the way it is whatever you prefer...

If you want to keep your domains up on the net for FREE, icq me at 145499752

bhutocracy · 04-13-2002, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
Call and track down the family court and file a writ to have access to your kids. Do it Monday morning if they aren't open tomorrow SD. You have a legal right to see them and she will have to prove that you are doing something before they refuse your plea.

Offer to do it under supervision if they try to deny your request and also ask the court to assign the supervision done by someone FROM the courts... not your wife or any family members. That can help you later on in any custody battles.

Also request from the issuing court what the reason for the TRO being filed is. Be ready to face the judge, but you need the reason for its issuance before seeing the court. That way you can have a defense planned. Walk in empty handed and you'll lose.

this is the good stuff right here.

spacedog · 04-13-2002, 08:07 PM

Gemini.. Thank You very much for that info.. I will do that.
As far as lawyers go, that's going to be tough to do. What little cash I have, I need to find a home, otheriwise there'll be nowhere for me to bring my babies home to for visits.. I'd hate to be only a weekend dad. I know how awful it was for my father to only see me & my sister so little while growing up. I'd hate to see my children suffer through it as well, cuz I also knew that pain as a child too & it sucks..

Phogirl.. thank you.. But I don't think I am going to need them.. If I can overcome this & win my family back, I am finished with porn.. If I lose, I don't know what I'll do, & doubt that I'll no longer have the mental capacity to work in this biz, or even function as a rational & sane being.. I'll end up crazy for sure... The thought of losing them is killing me inside.. I know, eventually something will happen & I'll get to see them, but that could be a very long time & it just hurts waiting.. It's not perfect situation, but it's better than not having no time at all with them..

12clicks · 04-13-2002, 08:11 PM

I'll buy your keyboard and mouse if it will help.............................................. ....................help you stop posting here that is.

Get out of here loser. Anyone with your problems should be doing a million other things besides posting here. Why the fuck do you think your wife left you?

boo hoo hoo, what should I do, boo hoo hoo.
what you should do is go back to ten years ago and change your life. since you can't do that, at least leave us the fuck alone.

spacedog · 04-13-2002, 08:13 PM

12 clicks.. it's 11:15pm.. what other millions of things could I be doing right now... Besides going fricken crazy

04-11-2002, 10:53 PM	#301
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Its only sleazy because people are in it for the wrong reasons. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-11-2002, 11:14 PM	#304
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	Good luck SD, i really hope everything works out for you. From your post above, sounds like you got a good plan in place. It wont be easy, but if you want your family back, it sure sounds like the best way to do it. If you get online at some point, make sure you let us know how things went. Take care __________________ Up to 35$ per join...!

04-11-2002, 11:17 PM	#305
Hot Tropical Babes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 3,014	Space, I had a feeling when i first read your post that the "porn" could be the problem (with mom and wife) Some people don't digest it well. I keep "business" to myself. Because my family would freak and think I am some kind of sex freak. I grew up in a christian envirement and I respect my parents alot. however I do have different views. I started getting into this business 4 years ago when I was pregnant. I became a diabetic and could not work, due to having a "high risk pregnancy". So I started learning html and frankly I enjoyed surfing So I thought what the hell, I can do this,, and I learned it. It became very profitable for me and my family. I was alarmed to read that your daughter was spending alot of time out of your home. I guess I am a over protective Mom and I refuse for my daughter to visit anywhere without knowing, and having say when she will return. This business does take an extreme amount of time online, and some people dont and refuse to understand. In the future, I would be very discrete in order to protect yourself. I do feel bad for your situation, but you are healthy and willing and from what it looks like have many friends. At first I was somewhat iffy about it all due to the constant shit stirred up on here, but with all that aside i am being straight with you. Good Luck Man. Lanie~~ __________________ <BR> Trade with Big Tits TGP* Trade with Titman

04-12-2002, 02:24 AM	#307
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	good luck SPACEY! __________________ Did you fucking talk to me??! Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

04-12-2002, 03:02 AM	#311
mule Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: hamsterdam Posts: 6,085	Spacedog, best of luck, man! You can do it, it'll take time, but you have the energy, just keep focused on your goal. And keep in touch! __________________ Converting like a mofo

04-11-2002, 10:55 PM	#302
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	THE END

04-12-2002, 02:48 AM	#309
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	BTW SpaceDog I wish you the best; I think I understand you

04-12-2002, 02:55 AM	#310
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	Good Luck man. I hope you can get your family back & things start going better.

04-12-2002, 03:04 AM	#312
-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	__________________

04-12-2002, 03:14 AM	#313
tekart Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: somwhere in time... Posts: 368	I don't think you have to wait to do this biz if you have kids...there's alot of worse things to do with kids around then 'porn'....I know of a gent who posts to this board who's got a few kids and he does a damn fine job keeping what he does seperate from his kids....plus this biz is HELPING his kids out...but I do think that each person has to make his/her own decission about doing this biz w/kids and at what age they are! Like it's been said before, some people just don't like this industry and/or don't digest it well. To Spacedog: Good luck w/whatever you choose to do! This biz will be here when you return! (I know it'll be soon!) If you need anything, feel free to hit me up on ICQ (157173543)and I'll see what I can do for ya bro! TekArt

04-12-2002, 03:19 AM	#314
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	First time I've posted in this thread as it seemed too busy as it was. There was a lot of bullshit in the past and badly thought out posts but you were genuinely improving on both counts. Whatever happened before though it's just fucked up to wish you ill in this situation. Best of luck for the future! If porn isn't/wasn't a problemin your household, if you can at all help it don't sell your domains or your PC! Keep going and this shit will eventually make you far more than any low-paid crap job even doing it evenings only. If porn was any part of you losing the wife and kids though then maybe staying in this business isn't such a good idea. Only you know. Either way, when you get a connection back come and post! I'm usually kicking around on ICQ 36884636 when it actually decides to work properly although stay invisible so msg if you need anything. There's always cybercafes until you get a connection back. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss. Last edited by Tipsy; 04-12-2002 at 03:21 AM..

04-12-2002, 03:24 AM	#315
the bulldog Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Land of Chocolate!! Posts: 519	FUCK SPACEDOG !!!! Hes a CHEATER and a LIER !! FUcking Child Beating and Wife Abusing Piece of Shit!!

04-12-2002, 03:34 AM	#316
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	BD,,, you just crossed a line you can never erase. You had better NEVER come stateside, And I mean NEVER. I am SOOO sorry I stuck up for your tailend last fall. I should have let you get sunk then. Now I'll see you go down the tubes for sure. First your ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY hits a day. Not the 180k you bragged on. Hmmm maybe someone like the hun might see your bandwidth and raise you. Know anything about poker you little jerk? Hoyles has a book on the above term, IF you can read (since you obviously can't type IE: ne1, u, etc) you can see what see you and raise MEANS. What a little troublemaking prck. Last edited by Gemini; 04-12-2002 at 03:39 AM..*

04-12-2002, 03:42 AM	#317
the bulldog Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Land of Chocolate!! Posts: 519	LOL! whatever Ill come and go into and from the usa as i like..... You think that A hick like u is going to scare me. Ohhh no, too scared, ill never come to the states cos some lame bitch threatened me. oohhhhhhhh no. fuck off. lesbian. btw Anyone Touches My Site and Ill just ReDirect the Load elsewhere. Like uhhhhh rude bitch..... or one of your site gemini. Howmuch do you and tam pay per gig and Would you care for 10 million hun impressions at your pergig Rate?? Last edited by the bulldog; 04-12-2002 at 03:45 AM..

04-12-2002, 05:02 AM	#319
Wilbo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 2,082	Good luck Spacedog. Keep your nose to the grindstone and do the right thing. You'll be surprised how much your life improves.

04-12-2002, 10:14 AM	#322
-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	Mule is NOT spacedog Unlless Spacedog has an Amsterdam telephone exchange, and is a master at disguising his voice ... I have had conversations with BOTH of them __________________

04-12-2002, 11:21 AM	#324
-=HOAX=- Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CrackYaMental Posts: 4,365	The five colours blind the eye. The five tones deafen the ear. The five flavours dull the taste. Racing and hunting madden the mind. Precious things lead one astray. Therefore the sage is guided by what he feels and not by what he sees. He lets go of that and chooses this. SpaceDog if you read this write it down and carry it with you as you hitchhike... Wow, I think this is the first time I've ever posted in an SD related thread. __________________ Insert Value Here.

04-12-2002, 11:24 AM	#325
mule Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: hamsterdam Posts: 6,085	I ching? __________________ Converting like a mofo

04-12-2002, 11:36 AM	#326
-=HOAX=- Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CrackYaMental Posts: 4,365	Lao Tsu actually...I can't remember where I picked it up...it may be in the tao te ching tho...it was a good one from my homeless days so I figured it would be applicable... __________________ Insert Value Here.

04-12-2002, 11:52 AM	#327
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Ill come and go into and from the usa as i like Shouldn't that read "When Mama allows me to go bye bye on my own?"

04-12-2002, 11:57 AM	#330
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	hahahahaha gemini + bulldog =

04-12-2002, 01:59 PM	#333
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	My two cents. Spacedog I don't give a fuck about what anyone here on the board is whining or bitching about. You came through on the project I paid you for and exceeded my expectations. If you need full time skilled web employment in Massachusetts I may know someone that needs a webmaster. Aside from that... Get gainful employment and a roof over your head and then pick up the pieces. Your wife and kids are the most important thing but it doesn't appear you can have that back until you get a job and a permanent residence. May the best of luck be on your side SD! There's second chances for everyone, thank god for that Brad Toll Free 866-746-3674 __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

04-12-2002, 02:02 PM	#334
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Hey Brad in case you and Spacey had an exchange with your link on http://www.69khz.com I wanna let you know, i wont be changing it, and will leave it up... BTW you need someone to take over? hehehe __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-13-2002, 04:09 AM	#335
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Don't look like saving my relationship is an option I just got back.. what a complete waste of time.... I left here yesterday @ noon, arrived in salem @ 6pm.. I knocked on my wife's mothers door, & she & my wife both said GO AWAY!! & they said they were calling the police, which they did.. & then I was served a restraining order.... FUCK!! How do you communicate to someone that you are sorry, & that things will be different when they pull this bullshit... this just hurts me.. If she left my daughter with me, then I'd feel a little better.. they are my babies too.. why does she have to take her from me like that.. I love her so much, & she loves me.. she's only hurting her as well as hurting me.. I don't want my little girl to be hurting & confused.. she's too little to understand.. this is not fair.. I cant go through this... I lost 2 children before, & it nearly killed me.. my 3rd child, my 1st with my wife, is the one who brought me out of despair & depression of my previous loss, & I am so attached to her.. It is killing me inside right now to fear that I may not see her again, or for a very long time.. now I'm just going crazy again.. I thought I had a plan, but now I'm so fricken depressed & messed up inside, I don't know anymore.. all I know now is hurt & sad.. It took a very long time for me to recover emotionally & mentally from the loss of my first two children, & slowly I healed a little, but still always carry them in my heart & think about them.. what was left of my heart, I fear has just been ripped out of me, & now the pain is more than I can take..,. I wanna scream.... I even fucking prayed to god who stood by & watched me beg & plea for his help.. I'm starting to crack & I tried to have faith, but after today, I feel hopeless... I didnt even get 2 words out of my mouth.. I knocked, & her & her mom told me to leave, & I said why, & then I heard them on phone calling police, so I left, & then cops drove up to me walking away & asked me questions, & told me she has a restraining order, & they gave me a copy.. how do i convince her that things are going to work out & get better if I can't contact her.. this is confusing me... I know I shouldnt spill my guts like this, but I just need to express myself, cuz If I just bottle it up inside, it just hurts more.. Well, after the police left, I tried to contact a friend.. he moved.. I couldnt find him.. went to visit another old pal.. he wasnt home.. I wandered for hours.. hoping to find someone to talk to, & nobody was around.. I feel so alone & distraught.. it's so empty here.. so quiet.. I don't like it... I'm so confused again.. what if I give up on this biz, & she still dont come back?? Then I am giving it up for nothing.. but if I stay, I can keep trying & eventually make a healthy income.. Well... I have to go to court on the 22nd to contest the restraining order.. I don't know how the process works, but I hope so much I can get through to her & convince her that things will be different & win her heart again.. & I will leave porn out of my family & relationship... but if she still wont come back, then It's going to hurt me so much, & my children will suffer as well, & that hurts me yet again some more, so much fucking hurt... I hate this shit....what if I'm not allowed to see my babies.. I'll fucking die inside... I won't be able to bear that.. NOOO!!!!!!!

04-13-2002, 04:31 AM	#336
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	spacedog, the rearend for your car is almost impossible to find. 65 and 66 ONLY. my brother said they had one about 2 weeks ago but has been since crushed. i guess they don't save them that much. there is a place in AZ that sells old buick parts, but shipping would be $$. i have one more place here to check out will let you know. i found alot of good cars. but i cant get one cheap enough between $700 and $1200 is the going rate. still looking on that. keep the faith bro. just handle one problem at a time. dont try to solve everything at once or you'll go crazy. __________________

04-13-2002, 04:37 AM	#337
meRx Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Oahu , Hawaii Posts: 362	SD, I truly dont know what to say. Im in a situation very simular to you (hence my signature) things seem to be looking up very slowly for me as i hope someday it will for you. Be strong , dont do anything stoopid . Sell your shit and get a job man. I CANNOT STAND to see people in this state cause i KNOW how it feels and it TRUELY sucks. If you get a paypal account going please post it. I hope everything works out for your kids and yourself. KEEP the biz , trust me it pays off. If this is a plot to earn fast cash lying through your ass then FUCK YOU ASSHOLE. You need to go to a street , put your teeth on the curb and tell the nearest person to kick toward the back of your head with all thier might. __________________ <a href="http://www.freeezinebucks.com/ps.php?s=feb&u=merxxx"><font size="2">FreeZineBucks</font></a> <font size="2"> EASY MONEY! Earn $1.00/email address! NO DEDUCTIONS!</font> <a href="http://www.contentlotto.com/index.php?account=merx"><font size="2">ContentLotto</font></a> <font size="2"> Win Free Content , Hosting , Traffic , Site Designs & more! Why pay?</font> Last edited by meRx; 04-13-2002 at 04:43 AM..

04-13-2002, 04:44 AM	#338
kangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 112	Space!! Cheerfull Keep going your work on web GOOD LUCK!!

04-13-2002, 05:03 AM	#339
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Tough break SD. Looks like you have 9 days of hell coming up. When you go to court, I'm sure they'll mention something about porn which will make you look like shit. But don't worry about it. You have until then to decide whether you're really out of the biz or not. If you are out, fine, tell the judge that, I'm sure he will like it. If you do stay in, that's fine too, but you'll need to use your persuasion skills and convince the judge that your involvement with porn will have no affect on your family life and will actually create more time for you to spend with your children. If your wife says that all you do is work on the computer all day, be sure to tell the judge EVERYTHING. You're online all day for a reason: to make money for the family. If it were me, I would be pretty pissed at my wife right now. She walked out on you, with your children (I think in some cases this can even be considered kidnapping), avoiding all financial responsibility. Fuck! You're stuck with rent and all the bills while she runs to mommy's. And then has the nerve to prevent you from seeing your kids for no clear reason. I do have one question though, on what grounds are all these restraining orders? You're leaving out a huge chunk of the story. When I filed a restraining order I had to detail everything. When the person received the order they were able to read and see the grounds, that IS their right. As it is your right to know what grounds the restraining order is based on. Hit me up on ICQ if you have any more questions about how the court process goes. This isn't the end of the world, it's only a bump in the road. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

04-13-2002, 07:53 AM	#340
nickdark Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1	Yet again the usual GFY morons are showing their pencil neck immaturity..much to the hilarity of those who read this board for their own amusement....cant you tough bigshots afford a few bucks after your dickhead bandwidth bills.. if its true ..help him ...if its not ..who cares?...post your bank details SD..I'll send a few $$......Keep it up you guys...youre the best at it !..and we laugh from afar. wankers.

04-13-2002, 08:45 AM	#341
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	SPACEY try sending her a letter..... Im ready to bet that she will read it..... she will consider throwing it out but in the end she will read it - might save u from the court... its a longshot BUT if u love her u have to try whatever you can 2 get her to see how you feelz! Vegas __________________ Did you fucking talk to me??! Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

04-13-2002, 10:51 AM	#342
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Spacey - if you see this hit me up on icq and email me or something regarding the transfer... __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-13-2002, 04:47 PM	#343
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Eric.. please send the dvd player c/o pipecrew... meRx & those of you that offered to help.. I don't have means to do paypal.. but any help I can get is extremely appreciated & will help me a great deal in sorting problems out & getting my life back in order.. jody crockett 84 riverside dr wells, maine. 04090 usa after 4/20 all mail will be forwarded to a po box in whatever town/city I move to.. Hyper.. how do I contact you.. I appreciate how you're trying to help me, & would like to be able to reach you after my internet connection gets cut off... vegasdude.. I sent a letter right before I was told to not contact her.. I just hope she gets it & reads it.. I also hope her mother dont throw it away.. I sent it to her in the mail before I got the restraining order & hope they dont think I sent it after...fuck.. I just want her to know I love her & will do anything I can to make her happy.. that's why I thought quitting this biz would be best.. to make her happy.. her being happy & my daughters in my life, with me at home is happiness enough for me.. I hate feeling so helpless.. I cant even go into the girls' room to pack things without freaking out & screaming & breaking down.. these next 9 days til court are going to be extremely tough to handle. I just hope things will work out.. anyway.. Selling my computer & things is going to be tough because I have no way to get to a pawnshop... my computer is still for sale.. best offer.. I hope for $800 or BO I can get.. western union & I will ship same day I get $$ & send via ups.. My time online is running out & I am panicking.. still want to sell domains http://xxx-revenue.com & http://bluehentai.com

04-13-2002, 06:22 PM	#344
Sexymail So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 350	even though you are a cock sucker spacedog, i will tell you this from experience. I went to jail for breaking a restraining order over the telephone, so whatever you do, dont call the bitch, jail isnt to much fun, trust me. As far as contesting the order on the 22nd, if she has a lawyer, i suggest you get one aswell, I took a lawyer to mine and i came out of the civil court not to bad, the criminal court is another issue, but BRING A LAWYER if she has one, trust me nigga. Nothing like arguing over shit with a guy with a masters and a license to argue over petty shit

04-13-2002, 06:46 PM	#345
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Call and track down the family court and file a writ to have access to your kids. Do it Monday morning if they aren't open tomorrow SD. You have a legal right to see them and she will have to prove that you are doing something before they refuse your plea. Offer to do it under supervision if they try to deny your request and also ask the court to assign the supervision done by someone FROM the courts... not your wife or any family members. That can help you later on in any custody battles. Also request from the issuing court what the reason for the TRO being filed is. Be ready to face the judge, but you need the reason for its issuance before seeing the court. That way you can have a defense planned. Walk in empty handed and you'll lose.

04-13-2002, 08:07 PM	#348
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Gemini.. Thank You very much for that info.. I will do that. As far as lawyers go, that's going to be tough to do. What little cash I have, I need to find a home, otheriwise there'll be nowhere for me to bring my babies home to for visits.. I'd hate to be only a weekend dad. I know how awful it was for my father to only see me & my sister so little while growing up. I'd hate to see my children suffer through it as well, cuz I also knew that pain as a child too & it sucks.. Phogirl.. thank you.. But I don't think I am going to need them.. If I can overcome this & win my family back, I am finished with porn.. If I lose, I don't know what I'll do, & doubt that I'll no longer have the mental capacity to work in this biz, or even function as a rational & sane being.. I'll end up crazy for sure... The thought of losing them is killing me inside.. I know, eventually something will happen & I'll get to see them, but that could be a very long time & it just hurts waiting.. It's not perfect situation, but it's better than not having no time at all with them.. Last edited by spacedog; 04-13-2002 at 08:12 PM..