Would you let a burgular rape your wife and kids?NOT IN SLEAZYDREAMS EYES!!! - GoFuckYourself.com

Aussie Rebel · 04-07-2002, 01:48 AM

Sorry for the typo in the Name of the Thread but I meant to say sleazydream would allow it read below,
IT SEEMS AS IF SLEAZYDREAM WOULD ALLOW IT AND NOT PROTECT HIM FAMILY

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Originally posted by SleazyDream

true - but how far do you take it? Is it right for him to chase an UNARMED burgler down the street with an axe? What if he found them the NEXT day and cut them up? Or a week later? For him to get Jail time OBVIOUSLY he SERIOUSLY overrecated to what a reasonable person's defination of self defense would be and commited assault on them.

Listen you fat fuckin maggot , what if you came home and found people ransackin your house and you have kids and a wife? would you let them rape your wife and children before you took action against them? NO!! but knowing what sort of a pussy your are you probably would of run out of the house and left your family there to deal with them with out your help, Well you fat cocksucker I love and care for my family and if it happened again I'd do the EXACT same thing but this time I would KILL them because I probably would'nt do as much jail as I did, I dont regret any of the things I did to them two fuckin MAGGOTS, and HOW the fuck would you know they were armed or not? Fuck you sleazycocksucker you mean nothing to me You are a low piece of shit, When it comes to my family I would die to protect them, and there was 2 of them against me so I took the action that ANY REAL MAN would take to stop there family being harmed
Fuck you!! You make me sick with your fucking bullshit!!! My FAMILY is MY LIFE PERIOD!!!!!

GTS Mark · 04-07-2002, 01:56 AM

Shit it's a good thing these two guys are on different continents! Or Aussie Rebel would be doing some more time in the Pen!
LOL!

DH

P.S. Aussie I completely agree with you man, I would have done the same thing for my family.

Trax · 04-07-2002, 02:00 AM

hehe

GatorB · 04-07-2002, 02:02 AM

Didn't comedian Henny Youngman use to say that all the time?

"Rape my wife, please." or something kinda like it.

MetaformX · 04-07-2002, 02:05 AM

Yeah aussie, you go man!
take down SleazeBag and all his hairy trolls

Aussie Rebel · 04-07-2002, 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Shit it's a good thing these two guys are on different continents! Or Aussie Rebel would be doing some more time in the Pen!
LOL!

DH

P.S. Aussie I completely agree with you man, I would have done the same thing for my family.

Thanks DrinkingHard As most of the people on this board would of done the same thing as I did, This cock sucker makes out his on the crooks side, I'm just pissed off it was'nt a fuckin chainsaw that I cut these Crooks up with, at the trial they got up in front of the court against me and admitted to the crime but they robbed my fuckin house but I get 8 years and they dont even get charged for the crime they committed because my crime was worse than what they did,
As I said in my first post I'd do it again if it happened again, Sleazy I just wish it was you that terrerised my family coz you'd be dead

hyper · 04-07-2002, 02:23 AM

whoa man

there are rules here boo.

if someone breaks into your house and you come home, and you chase him down the street and cut him up with an axe. you should go to prison.

a: he was running away and not posing a life threatening situation therefore you have no right to harm him.

b: you come home and he breaks into your house and rapes your wife and kids, you have every right to cut him up with an axe. its called temporary insanity.

c: your in your house and someone breaks in and you chop him up with an axe you can claim a life threatening situation

it's all about life endangerment when you use deadly force.

it's like the cops can't shoot someone running away. they can only shoot when their life is threatened or someone elses life is threatened.

i'm not sticking up for anybody but if you read the section you quoted. thats what it seems like he was trying to point out.

except in Texas if anyone fucks with your property you can shoot them.

chodadog · 04-07-2002, 02:24 AM

Fuckin' oath man. I completely agree. I was out with my younger cousin a few weeks ago.. and you get a bunch of these fuckers.. 25-30 eyeing her out. And it's not like she dresses all provocative.. there's just so many dirty fuckers around..

i felt like just getting into 'em. but that is a bit extreme, but if one was to actually touch her, god help them.

Aussie Rebel · 04-07-2002, 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by hyper
whoa man

there are rules here boo.

if someone breaks into your house and you come home, and you chase him down the street and cut him up with an axe. you should go to prison.

a: he was running away and not posing a life threatening situation therefore you have no right to harm him.

b: you come home and he breaks into your house and rapes your wife and kids, you have every right to cut him up with an axe. its called temporary insanity.

c: your in your house and someone breaks in and you chop him up with an axe you can claim a life threatening situation

it's all about life endangerment when you use deadly force.

it's like the cops can't shoot someone running away. they can only shoot when their life is threatened or someone elses life is threatened.

i'm not sticking up for anybody but if you read the section you quoted. thats what it seems like he was trying to point out.

except in Texas if anyone fucks with your property you can shoot them.

And when did I chase them down the road???

hyper · 04-07-2002, 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

And when did I chase them down the road???

i dont know who chased who down the road.
maybe u chased sleazy down the road.

im just sayin there are rules of engagement

Aussie Rebel · 04-07-2002, 02:47 AM

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Originally posted by hyper

i dont know who chased who down the road.
maybe u chased sleazy down the road.

im just sayin there are rules of engagement

Rules of engangement, FAMILY IN DANGER = DO ANYTHING YOU CAN!!! WINS EVERYTIME!!!

mule · 04-07-2002, 03:05 AM

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Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Rules of engangement, FAMILY IN DANGER = DO ANYTHING YOU CAN!!! WINS EVERYTIME!!!

Eight years in prison doesn't seem like a great victory to me

But yeah, who knows how they'll react in the heat of the moment...an axe seems rather extreme, but if I surprised a burglar in my house I'll probably also grab whatever's handy, and likely to inflict the most damage.

meRx · 04-07-2002, 05:01 AM

If somone was in my house trying to rape my wife and kids i would DO ANYTHING , GRAB ANYTHING in order to hand them their ass....First comes family , as long as i saved them from getting killed/raped/hurt it would be worth the jail time in my eyes. Even though id fight long and hard for lesser charges.
But yeah
Family first.
everything else , second.

Gemini · 04-07-2002, 05:22 AM

I learned late in life something that disturbed me at the time... my SO made a statement,,, in a fight you fight to win, no holds barred and no games. or YOU could be DEAD. I spent alot of time thinking about that and it finally got thru to me that that is the absolute truth in a dangerous situation. I had a prob on one hand knowing he carries several highly ranked martial arts belts, but when you get right down to it, a person is committing a crime? Stop it hpwever you can with whatever means needed. If they run... stop them for the police to haul off. But don't do more than you need (IF you can restrain yourself) to hold them still.

Shame you allowed your gun rights to be taken away Aussie. You guys need to get some new laws passed!!

crooks

Muff · 04-07-2002, 06:10 AM

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Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Rules of engangement, FAMILY IN DANGER = DO ANYTHING YOU CAN!!! WINS EVERYTIME!!!

Agreed.

Question what is that in your signature about free content? Please tell me it isn't one of those news group sites that steals content?

bhutocracy · 04-07-2002, 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by Gemini

Shame you allowed your gun rights to be taken away Aussie. You guys need to get some new laws passed!!

crooks

here we go..

actually i believe it is a good thing.. especially hand guns.. 'cept of course my air rifle being banned! LOL heheheh.. i'd rather defend myself with a butter knife.. only that it's got a .22 sight on it and it looks more dangerous than it is..

LoveAsianChicks · 04-07-2002, 06:25 AM

Too bad you got jail time, these fucking low lives break into peoples homes and the home owner gets in trouble defending his family & house.
Just crazy!

Wildman · 04-07-2002, 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

here we go..

actually i believe it is a good thing.. especially hand guns.. 'cept of course my air rifle being banned! LOL heheheh.. i'd rather defend myself with a butter knife.. only that it's got a .22 sight on it and it looks more dangerous than it is..

I think banning guns is good also. Would you rather a shoot out, of a fist fight?

Aussie, just ignore the sleazy fucker. 95% of ppl here agree with you. Dont waste your time with him

Scootermuze · 04-07-2002, 07:03 AM

Banning guns might be an ok thing if you could get the guns from the bad guys as well..
All banning would do is tell the bad guys that they are free to do as they please without worrying about getting shot.

On the other hand, in the U.S., states that issue concealed weapons permits usually see their crime rates decrease.

But as with the topic at hand, it doesn't take a gun to put a hurtin on someone.

It's just another example of a fucked up justice system where the victim becomes the criminal.

hyper · 04-07-2002, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Rules of engangement, FAMILY IN DANGER = DO ANYTHING YOU CAN!!! WINS EVERYTIME!!!

yes if your family's life is threatened you have the right to chop them up in tiny pieces

remember the post i said about the police. When i was in the Coast Guard I had to go through a series of judgement tests.

when to shoot. when not to shoot. authorized use of deadly force

jimmy3way · 04-07-2002, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by hyper
it's like the cops can't shoot someone running away. they can only shoot when their life is threatened or someone elses life is threatened.

Well actually they can shoot someone running away, but they have to like fake the crime scene so it LOOKED like he was turning around to run towards them again.

LoveAsianChicks · 04-07-2002, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Scootermuze
Banning guns might be an ok thing if you could get the guns from the bad guys as well..
All banning would do is tell the bad guys that they are free to do as they please without worrying about getting shot.

On the other hand, in the U.S., states that issue concealed weapons permits usually see their crime rates decrease.

But as with the topic at hand, it doesn't take a gun to put a hurtin on someone.

It's just another example of a fucked up justice system where the victim becomes the criminal.

That is the logic, responsible for about 99% of the shootings in the US.

'He must own a gun, so I need a gun."
Your too far gone now....but in most countires neither person owns a gun.
Many people laugh at the US gun issues because its so stupid. Isn't 2 people fighting without a gun, better then 2 people fighting with a gun?

How many shootings in Tokyo, London, Toronto each year? I bet more people die in LA from guns, then people in the 3 cities I just listed combined.

DialerNET · 04-07-2002, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Scootermuze
Banning guns might be an ok thing if you could get the guns from the bad guys as well..

That's the thing. Here in Australia, we have nowhere near as many "bad guys" owning guns, because it's made more difficult for them to get access to them.

There's too many unstable people in the world that do not have have the capacity to handle the responsibility that goes with owning a gun.

I do not believe in allowing civilians to have access to guns. But that said, I do understand that it's almost a neccesity in the US, because the ease at which people are able to get a gun there means that almost everyone has one.. including all the drunken loons. So you've reached a point there where you have to fight fire with fire.

Here, we're not at that point.. And we will never reach that point as long as tight gun control remains.

Jason.

LoveAsianChicks · 04-07-2002, 11:33 AM

That is the problem: in the US it is a case where everyone seems to own a gun so YOU need a gun as well, or your at a disadvantage.

That just means more and more people buy a gun and the problem seems to have no end in sight.

Do police in England still go around without a gun? or has that changed?
London is as large or larger then any US city. Imagine US police without a gun, LOL what a joke. Criminals would have a field day.

SleazyDream · 04-07-2002, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Rules of engangement, FAMILY IN DANGER = DO ANYTHING YOU CAN!!! WINS EVERYTIME!!!

sounds like what osamma is saying...........

SleazyDream · 04-07-2002, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by LoveAsianChicks

That is the logic, responsible for about 99% of the shootings in the US.

'He must own a gun, so I need a gun."
Your too far gone now....but in most countires neither person owns a gun.
Many people laugh at the US gun issues because its so stupid. Isn't 2 people fighting without a gun, better then 2 people fighting with a gun?

How many shootings in Tokyo, London, Toronto each year? I bet more people die in LA from guns, then people in the 3 cities I just listed combined.

I'm not against hunting rifles, takes skill to use them, but a civilized society doesn't need handguns.

Think about this, if you get robbed and the robber has a gun and you don't - you loose your wallet. Big deal.
If BOTH you and the robber have a gun, SOMEONE gets shot. Guarenteed.

DialerNET · 04-07-2002, 11:42 AM

Deleted. Can't be stuffed. I have mono.. Woe is me.

Jason

SleazyDream · 04-07-2002, 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Rules of engangement, FAMILY IN DANGER = DO ANYTHING YOU CAN!!! WINS EVERYTIME!!!

If they are INDEED in danger. OBVIOUSLY the Judge didn't think so. I cann't imagine ANY JUDGE ANYWHERE in a two on one situation where someone is defending themself or their family where you would not get off and be completely innocent - if not get a medel for bravery, on self defense.
And even if it's a pansy judge, there's always an appeal court, something you didn't seem to have the option of since you were probally guilty.
Sounds like you went totally ABOVE AND BEYOND self defense and committed what was probally aggratived assault from what I can piece together.

You and Mr. osamma seem to have a lot in common.............

SleazyDream · 04-07-2002, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Thanks DrinkingHard As most of the people on this board would of done the same thing as I did, This cock sucker makes out his on the crooks side, I'm just pissed off it was'nt a fuckin chainsaw that I cut these Crooks up with, at the trial they got up in front of the court against me and admitted to the crime but they robbed my fuckin house but I get 8 years and they dont even get charged for the crime they committed because my crime was worse than what they did,
As I said in my first post I'd do it again if it happened again, Sleazy I just wish it was you that terrerised my family coz you'd be dead

I will admit there is something wrong there if the crooks didn't get charged with the B&E crime though........... Your assault on them has no bearing on the intent and deed of the B&E and they are responsible and accountable for that in my eyes.

kmanrox · 04-07-2002, 12:19 PM

yet, aussie_rebel buys 2 CD's a day from my signature... go figure

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-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 04-07-2002, 12:44 PM

From a resigned cop point of view ... the only thing Aussie did wrong was left them able to testify ...

The exact same rules of engagement apply to us as cops ...
If you have to use dealy force ... you CANNOT leave them alive ...

We are trained ONLY to aim for the vital organs ... we received NO training to shoot for a shoulder or leg to disable ... that is not what deadly force is for ...

If you shoot a suspect, and you do not kill him/her

... they have the right to sue you for pain and suffering ... and you will complete your life paying into their trust ... they usually WIN 80-90 % of all cases ...

Next time you make sure you do it right brother !!

Manga1 · 04-07-2002, 12:49 PM

I have a cousin who's a cop. I asked him once about this sort of thing and what would happen if I took a baseball bat to a burglar. His answer was I'd be ok if I just used it to drop him and call the cops. If, on the other hand, I dropped him and kept beating him I would go to jail. The idea is not to use exesive force.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 04-07-2002, 12:56 PM

If you are talking about a fight with your neighbor on the street ... yes

But burglars fall into a very grey area ... you don't have any idea if he is armed or has one of your kitchen knives ... what are you going to do , ask him ???

You DO have the right to protect your family and yourself ...

The entire thing goes right back to leaving him/her alive ...
If you use excessive force and leave them alive ... then yes you are in FOREHEAD-DEEP legal shit !! But if you kill them, a good lawyer can get you off on self defense ...

It is really that simple ...

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hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	whoa man there are rules here boo. if someone breaks into your house and you come home, and you chase him down the street and cut him up with an axe. you should go to prison. a: he was running away and not posing a life threatening situation therefore you have no right to harm him. b: you come home and he breaks into your house and rapes your wife and kids, you have every right to cut him up with an axe. its called temporary insanity. c: your in your house and someone breaks in and you chop him up with an axe you can claim a life threatening situation it's all about life endangerment when you use deadly force. it's like the cops can't shoot someone running away. they can only shoot when their life is threatened or someone elses life is threatened. i'm not sticking up for anybody but if you read the section you quoted. thats what it seems like he was trying to point out. except in Texas if anyone fucks with your property you can shoot them. __________________ Last edited by hyper; 04-07-2002 at 02:25 AM..

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chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Fuckin' oath man. I completely agree. I was out with my younger cousin a few weeks ago.. and you get a bunch of these fuckers.. 25-30 eyeing her out. And it's not like she dresses all provocative.. there's just so many dirty fuckers around.. i felt like just getting into 'em. but that is a bit extreme, but if one was to actually touch her, god help them.

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Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	I learned late in life something that disturbed me at the time... my SO made a statement,,, in a fight you fight to win, no holds barred and no games. or YOU could be DEAD. I spent alot of time thinking about that and it finally got thru to me that that is the absolute truth in a dangerous situation. I had a prob on one hand knowing he carries several highly ranked martial arts belts, but when you get right down to it, a person is committing a crime? Stop it hpwever you can with whatever means needed. If they run... stop them for the police to haul off. But don't do more than you need (IF you can restrain yourself) to hold them still. Shame you allowed your gun rights to be taken away Aussie. You guys need to get some new laws passed!! crooks

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LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	Too bad you got jail time, these fucking low lives break into peoples homes and the home owner gets in trouble defending his family & house. Just crazy!

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Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	Banning guns might be an ok thing if you could get the guns from the bad guys as well.. All banning would do is tell the bad guys that they are free to do as they please without worrying about getting shot. On the other hand, in the U.S., states that issue concealed weapons permits usually see their crime rates decrease. But as with the topic at hand, it doesn't take a gun to put a hurtin on someone. It's just another example of a fucked up justice system where the victim becomes the criminal.

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LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	That is the problem: in the US it is a case where everyone seems to own a gun so YOU need a gun as well, or your at a disadvantage. That just means more and more people buy a gun and the problem seems to have no end in sight. Do police in England still go around without a gun? or has that changed? London is as large or larger then any US city. Imagine US police without a gun, LOL what a joke. Criminals would have a field day.

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-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	From a resigned cop point of view ... the only thing Aussie did wrong was left them able to testify ... The exact same rules of engagement apply to us as cops ... If you have to use dealy force ... you CANNOT leave them alive ... We are trained ONLY to aim for the vital organs ... we received NO training to shoot for a shoulder or leg to disable ... that is not what deadly force is for ... If you shoot a suspect, and you do not kill him/her ... they have the right to sue you for pain and suffering ... and you will complete your life paying into their trust ... they usually WIN 80-90 % of all cases ... Next time you make sure you do it right brother !! __________________

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Manga1 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Malakiaville Posts: 952	I have a cousin who's a cop. I asked him once about this sort of thing and what would happen if I took a baseball bat to a burglar. His answer was I'd be ok if I just used it to drop him and call the cops. If, on the other hand, I dropped him and kept beating him I would go to jail. The idea is not to use exesive force.

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-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	If you are talking about a fight with your neighbor on the street ... yes But burglars fall into a very grey area ... you don't have any idea if he is armed or has one of your kitchen knives ... what are you going to do , ask him ??? You DO have the right to protect your family and yourself ... The entire thing goes right back to leaving him/her alive ... If you use excessive force and leave them alive ... then yes you are in FOREHEAD-DEEP legal shit !! But if you kill them, a good lawyer can get you off on self defense ... It is really that simple ... __________________ Last edited by -=HUNGRYMAN=-; 04-07-2002 at 12:58 PM..