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DeanCapture 12-23-2005 12:55 AM

Sorry to hear about your problems...hope you guys get it worked out :thumbsup

By the way.....Twistys Rocks! :winkwink:

http://www.glamourshoots.com/pics/lux/001.jpg

chadglni 12-23-2005 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
This is true and I agree, but in my experience it's also going to depend on the amount of complaints, getting an entire class C banned is some pretty hardcore shit. I am not familar with this entire situation, it appears Bdjuf was notified that he did bring a fine, but only a couple people know exactly what happened.

I do agree there should be a warning, but if you take on a ton of complaints and get an entire class c banned the fine may have came with that. I am not 100% sure though

I'm almost positive that bdjuf said he asked about his traffic sources before he ordered $8000 worth of servers. But honestly, what exactly do you think they assumed 20 servers were for? :1orglaugh The point being, if you say "sure you can do that" then get a fine because I did that well honestly I don't give a shit. Don't tell me something is ok if it's only ok until you catch shit over it. Don't know if this is the case but it would appear so. :2 cents:

pornstar2pac 12-23-2005 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Sorry to hear about your problems...hope you guys get it worked out :thumbsup

By the way.....Twistys Rocks! :winkwink:

http://www.glamourshoots.com/pics/lux/001.jpg


damn, she is hot!

clickclickclick 12-23-2005 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
The only reason to NOT get on the plane is if you were actually spamming and did get those class c's booted. :2 cents:

If you did not SPAM or do anything else there is no reason to not get on the plane and work it out.

i love ur responses, truely your posts reflect how business should be done at adultmegacash

split_joel 12-23-2005 12:56 AM

that is not the issue man and I dont see what your direct problem is with us. we are not getting even and like I said I have nothing to do with this and bdjuf said it himself, so why make the drama worse then it really is. I am saying thats why his boxes were taken off fines and so forth

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Originally Posted by hershie
I see, so you guys were "getting even" with a client by lying to them repeatedly for several months because they caused you grief. Real classy.


AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Sorry, but bullshit. When I leave town there is more expense involved than just my transportation costs. Time is money, and flying to another country to get my money back is a waste of my time and money.

Shit, with my mainstream company I charge my clients by the hour just for the travel time.


I do agree that time is money, but when there seems to be no other resolve as in phone, e mail, icq, then you need to make that sacrafice to make it happen. When you have no other choice the bad choice becomes the good one.

I do not agree that it's bullshit, I think it's nice that not everyone airs all their laundry here and instead want to work it out between the two parties involved. What business is it of ours?

I guess if Chris wanted to show a lot of class he would fly to Canada and meet with Bdjuf.

TheJimmy 12-23-2005 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Sorry to hear about your problems...hope you guys get it worked out :thumbsup

By the way.....Twistys Rocks! :winkwink:

damm nice photo man! thanks for sharing, this thread needs some hot ass instead of hot heads

:thumbsup

Webby 12-23-2005 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hershie
I see, so you guys were "getting even" with a client by lying to them repeatedly for several months because they caused you grief. Real classy.

It's like that hershie. Hard to mingle "professionalism" with bullshit like that. The smell of this is the same crap I saw with SI in the 90's.

chadglni 12-23-2005 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
Yes he will be found guilty if he had any wrong doing or was spamming. I doubt any host has power over the gov to put someone in jail because they claim the person was a spammer. :1orglaugh

What does being found guilty have to do with anything? You still have to disrupt your life either by sitting in jail, or going to jail and getting bailed out. You would then have to go from Canada to California for possibly multiple court dates on your dime to prove you are innocent. No chance in hell I would fly anywhere because someone owes me money, especially under these circumstances. Anyone that would is off in the head.

SplitInfinity 12-23-2005 12:58 AM

Well, ya know, if he came here I would pay for it all...
I suppose we can do it over secure IM.

You guys, some of you, I mean come on now.... you take cheap shots on issues
you dont know about. Go ahead read into things and make a movie out of it.
I really dont care much because I respect myself and my decisions.

When I said "I fucked him over", there are specific reasons which are none of the
publics business. I did not lie about anything however one thing led to another and
thats his perception of the matter. No sweat, this will be worked out.

I dont want to "win" this match, I want it to be fair.
The reason for a face to face is because I think we owe it to eachother to
make things straight, and the respectable man does this sort of negotiation in person.
Whatever, it was an idea. Just trying to settle a valid arguement between two friends who are in a pickle right now.

I will not post details as to why this transpired to protect those involved.
I will come to an reasonable settlement on this with BDJuff.
I will NOT talk to his partner. Him and I do not get along.

You are a good guy man, you deserve the full treatment.
Your post is cool with me because in the end everyone will be happy.

Happy Holidays to all except wdsguy. LOL (had to do that, lol, love love love)

DeanCapture 12-23-2005 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
damn, she is hot!

Thanks - here's a few more of this lovely lady!

Tempest 12-23-2005 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
This is true and I agree, but in my experience it's also going to depend on the amount of complaints, getting an entire class C banned is some pretty hardcore shit. I am not familar with this entire situation, it appears Bdjuf was notified that he did bring a fine, but only a couple people know exactly what happened.

I do agree there should be a warning, but if you take on a ton of complaints and get an entire class c banned the fine may have came with that. I am not 100% sure though

SI said that what was posted was 100% true.. So.. regardless of the fine issue, SI agreed to refund the full $8k.. They lied and didn't... A different agreement was reached in which they'd refund the $8k minus half the fine... they lied and didn't... 4-5+ months of this.. That's NOT "standup" behavior at all.

Why anyone would listen to what you have to say though with that SI link in your sig is beyond me.. Maybe they said they'd give you a month or 2 free on your hosting if you came in here and did some damage control for them..

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
I'm almost positive that bdjuf said he asked about his traffic sources before he ordered $8000 worth of servers. But honestly, what exactly do you think they assumed 20 servers were for? :1orglaugh The point being, if you say "sure you can do that" then get a fine because I did that well honestly I don't give a shit. Don't tell me something is ok if it's only ok until you catch shit over it. Don't know if this is the case but it would appear so. :2 cents:


None of us know the entire story it's all speculation for us. I know people who run pill sites, and mainstream programs that have a lot more then 20 servers, so if someone orders them up I do not think they are going to think they are a spammer.

I agree, we've been going back and forth, if Bdjuf was clear what he was doing, and Split did say it was fine and no worries, then yes if he did bring on a fine that he should not be charged for it. But, as I have said no one knows both sides except the sides involved.

I think we should wait and see if Bdjuf takes the offer to meet him and see what happens from there.

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest
SI said that what was posted was 100% true.. So.. regardless of the fine issue, SI agreed to refund the full $8k.. They lied and didn't... A different agreement was reached in which they'd refund the $8k minus half the fine... they lied and didn't... 4-5+ months of this.. That's NOT "standup" behavior at all.

Why anyone would listen to what you have to say though with that SI link in your sig is beyond me.. Maybe they said they'd give you a month or 2 free on your hosting if you came in here and did some damage control for them..


Because I host there and show support means nothing about what I am saying. I am just giving a different opinion. We don't know both sides to the story is all.

I am not playing damage control, I have said that both parties were wrong. Think what you like though.

chadglni 12-23-2005 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
None of us know the entire story it's all speculation for us. I know people who run pill sites, and mainstream programs that have a lot more then 20 servers, so if someone orders them up I do not think they are going to think they are a spammer.

I agree, we've been going back and forth, if Bdjuf was clear what he was doing, and Split did say it was fine and no worries, then yes if he did bring on a fine that he should not be charged for it. But, as I have said no one knows both sides except the sides involved.

I think we should wait and see if Bdjuf takes the offer to meet him and see what happens from there.

I don't care what they do, I just said no way I would fly to Cali to settle anything.

P.S. A pill site with 20 servers is dealing in spam. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 12-23-2005 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel
actually no warning bro, they do not give warnings when a box recieves over 350 spam complaints in a matter of 2 hours


wow that seems rather low. i could fake 400 complaints in an hour easily..

This one forum used to piss me off because some whiners would always get me kicked off ( a mainstream one ) just for voicing my opinion , so i built a "whiner bot" that would make various complaints from random people , so that they would get so many complaints they wouldnt be able to spot the real ones :1orglaugh

I hope those are verified..

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by clickclickclick
i love ur responses, truely your posts reflect how business should be done at adultmegacash

We are as professional as you will find and have been since 1996. I am sorry that if having a debate shows we are bad at doing business.

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
I don't care what they do, I just said no way I would fly to Cali to settle anything.

P.S. A pill site with 20 servers is dealing in spam. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I know 100% in fact that they do not. They spends 100's of thousands of dollars with GTS, Cybercat and others.

baddog 12-23-2005 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
I guess if Chris wanted to show a lot of class he would fly to Canada and meet with Bdjuf.

Since he is the one insisting on the face to face, yes.

sonofsam 12-23-2005 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
I can't beleive klik revenue isn't all over this shit yet

they will... soon as it turns to the year 2007 and they can bump it and annoy the next generation of GFY'rs :1orglaugh

chadglni 12-23-2005 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
I know 100% in fact that they do not. They spends 100's of thousands of dollars with GTS, Cybercat and others.

That's a lot of pill traffic. :pimp

clickclickclick 12-23-2005 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SplitInfinity
Well, ya know, if he came here I would pay for it all...
I suppose we can do it over secure IM.

You guys, some of you, I mean come on now.... you take cheap shots on issues
you dont know about. Go ahead read into things and make a movie out of it.
I really dont care much because I respect myself and my decisions.

When I said "I fucked him over", there are specific reasons which are none of the
publics business. I did not lie about anything however one thing led to another and
thats his perception of the matter. No sweat, this will be worked out.

I dont want to "win" this match, I want it to be fair.
The reason for a face to face is because I think we owe it to eachother to
make things straight, and the respectable man does this sort of negotiation in person.
Whatever, it was an idea. Just trying to settle a valid arguement between two friends who are in a pickle right now.

I will not post details as to why this transpired to protect those involved.
I will come to an reasonable settlement on this with BDJuff.
I will NOT talk to his partner. Him and I do not get along.

You are a good guy man, you deserve the full treatment.
Your post is cool with me because in the end everyone will be happy.

Happy Holidays to all except wdsguy. LOL (had to do that, lol, love love love)

just pay him back everything and fucken swallow ur "loses"
i doubt this thread will give u more credibility to your professionalism.. especially if it gets bumped during ur promotions.

hershie 12-23-2005 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel
that is not the issue man and I dont see what your direct problem is with us. we are not getting even and like I said I have nothing to do with this and bdjuf said it himself, so why make the drama worse then it really is. I am saying thats why his boxes were taken off fines and so forth

Oh but it IS the issue to many of us reading who are calling it like it is. Your lies about the wire for months smells bad regardless of the disputes between you and your client.

Daruma 12-23-2005 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
What does being found guilty have to do with anything? You still have to disrupt your life either by sitting in jail, or going to jail and getting bailed out. You would then have to go from Canada to California for possibly multiple court dates on your dime to prove you are innocent. No chance in hell I would fly anywhere because someone owes me money, especially under these circumstances. Anyone that would is off in the head.

your assuming its a setup - that would be a death penalty for their biz current and future - no one would trust them

datatank 12-23-2005 01:06 AM

Live by the sword you know the rest. Its a cost of doing business for those who choose that route

xNetworx 12-23-2005 01:06 AM

I'm curious why this has to be resolved face to face. That makes no sense to me whatsoever. Oh well, this is none of my business... good night GFY

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Since he is the one insisting on the face to face, yes.

I agree, I should have been more clear in what I was saying. I meant it was nice to see that he did not want to fight it out on the boards, but to meet and settle it face to face and make it right for both sides.

It's rare you see that these days in this industry.

Anyways lots of respect to you man, cheers and happy holidays.

Hornydog4cooter 12-23-2005 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
I am not playing damage control, I have said that both parties were wrong. Think what you like though.


How do you know what party is wrong if you dont know whats going on?

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
That's a lot of pill traffic. :pimp

oh yes yes it is, I am very jealous everytime I speak with him. They do a sick amount of sales with no mail at all. They do not even run a program. All in house traffic.

split_joel 12-23-2005 01:08 AM

the fact is wutever went on is not yours or the publics buisness and further more, you can say what you want but you are just making yourself look more and more like a fool because you do not know what you are talkign about and i say that in my own defence and say that not being involved with SI at all on this post *hence no sig*

Quote:

Originally Posted by hershie
Oh but it IS the issue to many of us reading who are calling it like it is. Your lies about the wire for months smells bad regardless of the disputes between you and your client.


Shoehorn! 12-23-2005 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SplitInfinity
Wow, all this attention. I feel loved.
:-)

Yep, BDJUff and I have an issue. His post is 100% right.
I fucked him over.

Now with that said..... one must ask "why"?

I feel that both of us suffered damage in the transaction.
However, there is alot to this "drama" that I will not post for the simple reason
that I do not want to make matters worse for some parties involved.

This thread is fun by the way. I love you all, even the doubters.

This board would not be GFY without drama. I am happy to contribute.

If BDJuFF wants to solve this matter he must come to me.
I will pay for the ticket for him to fly here. I will not discuss this matter
outside of a face to face professional meeting between two businessmen.

Note: Alot of this would have been avoided if your partner didnt have such a big mouth. Threatining people is not a good business tactic. It surely didnt give him what
he wanted, did it?

Ill negotiate, its only fair to do so, but note this: I will not be threatened, if that happnens again, I will let this go to court. We can keep it out if you like and maintain
friendship, which, I always have liked you personally..... its someone else I have a
hard time dealing with.

Nevertheless, say what you like just spell my name right. :-)

Lets sort it out. Can you do lunch after Christmas Break?
No drama, we just need to sort this out. I want fair, not to defeat you.

I suppose we could do this over the phone.... I just would be limited on what I am
willing to discuss in that case. More professional to meet in person and negotiate.
Ill show you my papers, you show me yours, all will me merry.

Peace out.

Anyone wanna chat about this? I am on ICQ, AIM....

AIM: NJesterIII
ICQ: 64791506

Sounds like a bullshit response to me.

Shoehorn! 12-23-2005 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!
Sounds like a bullshit response to me.

Autoblogger Pro kicks ass by the way.

buddyjuf 12-23-2005 01:09 AM

I just want you guys to know that I am still alive, reading all these replies is honestly very overwhelming, I have not even thought about the reply to Chris's proposal yet!

DeanCapture 12-23-2005 01:10 AM

What confuses me is this. Why would SI jerk him around since August instead of just getting on the phone and telling him what the problem was and getting that shit cleared up right away? This seems to be an underlying problem with drama like this. One party can't get the other party to return their emails, their ICQ's and/or their phone calls. That's a pretty fucked up way of doing business if you ask me. If SI would have kept that line of communication open, this probably wouldn't not have made it to the board(s).

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hornydog4cooter
How do you know what party is wrong if you dont know whats going on?


In how they handled aspects of this situation.

Varius 12-23-2005 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by split_joel
actually no warning bro, they do not give warnings when a box recieves over 350 spam complaints in a matter of 2 hours

That sucks...our datacentre MUST give us one warning first, based on the contract.

I mean any host can get a new client who spams from their servers, but no warning sucks. I'd try to renegotiate your deal if I were you :winkwink:

Webby 12-23-2005 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by clickclickclick
just pay him back everything and fucken swallow ur "loses"
i doubt this thread will give u more credibility to your professionalism.. especially if it gets bumped during ur promotions.

Agree! It screwed up at stage one on broken promises of servers, then agreements to refund on several occasions - which never happened. Hard to present *any* credible defense for that.

There is little point in getting the hump over some irritant phone conversations and letting that end up personal. Basically - it's all bullshit.

riddler 12-23-2005 01:11 AM

Ok, So if it was spam they got fined over it is public knowledge and im sure a gfyer can find the info..

SplitInfinity 12-23-2005 01:12 AM

"I guess if Chris wanted to show a lot of class he would fly to Canada and meet with Bdjuf."

Sure I would be down for that. :-)
Or we could meet up in Vegas. :-)

Anyhow...

1. We were not "getting back" at anyone.
2. A Setup? You guys! Wow. Making that movie out of it I see? Ridiculous.
Even if I were mad at him, he's to metro to make it in jail, hehehe. Really now
people quit speculating.

For thos who said "I should eat my losses", I disagree. I have profound reasons for
wanting this to be fair to my benefit. I feel wronged as so do they. I just wanna work on it some more before I just let it go... We can get it right, im sure.

Ill be Drinking with Juff in Vegas I am positive of that.
:-)

beemk 12-23-2005 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
The only reason to NOT get on the plane is if you were actually spamming and did get those class c's booted. :2 cents:

If you did not SPAM or do anything else there is no reason to not get on the plane and work it out.

time is money, bdjuf is probably a pretty successful guy and flying there and back and everything would be a big waste of his time that he probably would be better off using to work.

and if they are trying to lure him out there for the feds then they are snitches. they are already scammers but a snitch is even worse than a scammer.


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