anyone wanna get my sig?

what is your problem? You know in some countries mailing is legal. I dont know what the hell is so bad about it? sure i was quite annoyed by 800 emails a day on an addy of mine, but hey just activate your junk mail filter.
I dont have any problems with peeps try to make money with mailing.. this childish bashing of bdjuf by you reminds me of kindergarten.

Not my business, but frankly a fair amount would be at least 8k, imo.

Mr. Jester's no babe in the woods when it comes to hosting mailers, and I'm sure he's well aware of the risks.

Not sure where this fine thing comes in to play, I've never heard of that.

I also don't think that an XBiz award winning host should be supporting spammers or enterprises that depend on spam to make money. There would be appear to be a whole ton of wrong and very little right going on here.

Alex

fair should be $8k. Cost of doing business for SI should be to eat that 'fine'.

8 k can buy alot of hairgel

and tanning lotion!

remind me to have sex with you at Internext.

this shows how much you know about adult industry.. and shows that you just a n00b who is so jelouse that you probably burning inside.. DID YOU KNOW that most of adult programs started off from getting people to mail them? almost every company has "big time" mailers who mail for them, many became rich because of mailers, so you telling me it's not a business ? you calling pushing tgp for $100/day a business then ? you make me laugh so hard man, thx :1orglaugh

SO that what makes it right and OK?! Stupid me! :1orglaugh

Diffrent times then.
Especially regarding American Law.

So to keep ya up to date...
Times are different.

Classic idiot justification for abusive "Business" practices.

A Lemming.

Fuckin' homo, who would be scared of your flabby ass? :321GFY

qwe: The columbian cartel has tons of people moving huge amounts of southern snow for them, they are getting rich, and it is totally against the law. Do you truly think that the only measure of acceptability is the pile of cash made?

Business model for spammers is "spam from this server until stopped, then move to next server, next host, next IP, next relay, next program that can handle the heat"... accepting at each step that their stuff is not considered acceptable by a large cross section of the net, the constant moving, dodging, and hiding as a result of doing something that is only tolerated by certain groups and people. It is a business, yes, but not exactly one that they will come out and admit to - and most of the programs won't admit it out loud either.

Alex

and alot of accessories

I could have not said that better myself...

Why didn't metrospamboy simply follow the advice in his own Sig and host his shit at SpamAir. I noticed that they are home to 4 ROKSO spammers and they always "service" any scumbag if the price is right....

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings...isp=webair.com

compared to Split

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings...itinfinity.net

Why does it matter ? If they said they would host it, then it's their problem...

This is all karma though. When you send people unwanted fucking emails what the hell do you think is going to happen to you?

Exactly!

it doesnt matter what the client does as long as the company is ok with it.... which in this case it looks like they were ok with it and they backed out and ripped off a client.. as simple as that..

14 pages LMAO

That's like saying internet traffic detracts from your IRC traffic.

Whatever. The above posts are right. Mailers are a huge business, and they make huge money.

Total Idiot.

699............

700.................Dramas :pimp

by the size of this thread it would have been a lot cheaper and less headache to settle for the inital $8k and take a loss

ummmm.. yeah.. perhaps it's you that needs to read everything again... I'll say it one more time... bdjuf said that ALL THEY did on the 4 servers they had access to and that were online was to update the OS.... SI said that everything bdjuf said was 100% correct... SI also said there were more servers up and running than just those 4 and that "maybe" some could have been hacked or something.... So... no where in any of the information we have do we know WHO was doing the spamming. For all we know if could have been some "rogue employee" inside SI... Read again friend..

ROTFL.... oh my god, that's one of the funniest things I've read in a long time...

Shit your still pushing that.. Hell I was like the 7th guy in that topic to give you a reply and have sent off two e-mails. Meanwhile I see guys that didn't post until the second page are already posting how they are set up and using it.

It's no biggie I just figured you would at the very least reply to one of my two e-mails. I'm really not meaning to complain because it was free afterall. I just don't know why you are pushing for more beta users when you can't even contact the people that sent you e-mails 11 days ago.

BTW the drama with BJUF seems pretty lame.. I'm only up to page 8 and the responses I've seen up until now from you have made your company look pretty bad.

First off you guys didn't get the servers up in the amount of time you said you would.. That's strike one..

Then you claim you were fined yet won't show them any proof. Strike two..

Then you give him the run around claiming you are going to send him his money yet he waits months on top of months.. You even admit to this in one of your posts and are now trying to act like he's your buddy and he should come to you to work it out.. Ummm sounds like 100% Bull Shit to me.. Strike 3

Hell there are at least a few more strikes aginst you but it's not worth it, I think everyone sees what is going on here.

what happened to the cool old biker dude that helped people out? this post was made by a fucking smug old man who sounds like he believes his own hype.

you think your teaching this kid anything by being an asshole to him?

what joel just learned from you is its bad business to piss on people and be a self rightous asshole who cant say hello or make an acknowledgement to a person because theyre thought of as being beneath contempt due to their stature or age?

fucking laughable coming from you.

take him under your wing old man - someone mustve done the same for you along the road! :1orglaugh

Huge thread.

Bdjuf, make sure to post the outcome.

I'm a total idiot?
We've had this problem before Alien, you don't know who I am. Not that you should care. Debate the subject, not the person, and maybe then I'll care for your malinformed opinion.

Chris Jester paid me back on time
 

I loan him money at least three times and had no problem

Gary Kremen

10,000 views and a post from Gary. what more can you ask for in a thread!

What's your point exactly? that has nothing to do with the issue at hand..

stop doing the "top notch guy" thing

i'm sure he WOULD pay you back, it's not like he wants to move to Mexico and get all his assets seized :winkwink: :1orglaugh

Tempest, I read plenty closely. If you were paying attention, you will see that (1) what bdjuf and SI say happened is different, (2) 350 spam complaints came in within 2 hours, (3) SI suffered some sort of issue that lead to a fine from a third party as a result of this spam, and (4) bdjuf has agreed to pay the fine if the bill or other proof is forthcoming.

I can add up 2+2. Can you?

Alex

(2) (3) (4) is SI's problem, they knew he was spamming and took the risk.

the only reason bdjuf is willing to take any loss by paying a portion of the fine, is because he just wants to recover as much money as he possibly can, because he doesn't think they'll pay him any other way :2 cents:

sonofsam, at the end of the day, it doesn't change the basic fact that no reputable "award winning" host should be in the business of supporting mailers that violate the laws of the state they are in.

I have a feeling that at least part of (2) (3) and (4) may potential have come due to incomplete disclosure of operations and mailer style.

Alex

You're reading between the lines.. I'm looking at what was said and confirmed. I see SI saying that there's "other things" they won't disclose or discuss, but they also confirmed that 100% of what bdjuf said was correct and no where did bdjuf say they used the servers for their intended purpose. Therefore, either they're all lieing or someone else did the spam.

There is a "disconnect" in some of the info and we can all assume whatever we want. Doesn't change a thing. At the end of the day SI lied multiple times and strung out a customer for months. None of us put up with that sort of treatment. We take our business elsewhere.

you are also known as a bit of a fanatical antispammer kook, so your opinion is biased and worthless on this.

.... and you are a fool hiding behind a nick. Nothing to add there.

"fanatical"... GFY.

Alex

send me money, i promise million server and 200 virgin

LOL:) Nice one Alex.

Ya goto Love and respect all the defenders of spam using fake nics in this cluster fuckwad thread trying justify criminal activities. :1orglaugh
Sarcasm.

bump for shitty host and a kidspammer