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AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SplitInfinity
AMC is posting his opinion. I literally just met the guy a few weeks ago.
I appreciate his level headed comments....... In fact I am proud to host him.
:-)

Its funny how the same people hating on me in this thread are the same few who always do. Should I investigate your affiliations? LOL

Its all good. Think what you will think, but in the end, bdjuff and I will ride off into the sunset as friends again. I already know what I am willing to do..... just waiting to talk to him. He made this public, however in the end, its between him and I, and the board? Well I always love the court of public opinion, it shows me how people think.
Its always good to understand people.
We should rename GFY to The Human Ant Farm.

:-)
Peace.

Thanks Chris, yes it's true we just met recently. But, split did step up and do me right in a crazy situation. Is it having an influence on what I am saying not at all. What I was trying to do was bring up points for people to discuss.

MrJackMeHoff 12-23-2005 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SplitInfinity
Well, ya know, if he came here I would pay for it all...
I suppose we can do it over secure IM.

You guys, some of you, I mean come on now.... you take cheap shots on issues
you dont know about. Go ahead read into things and make a movie out of it.
I really dont care much because I respect myself and my decisions.

When I said "I fucked him over", there are specific reasons which are none of the
publics business. I did not lie about anything however one thing led to another and
thats his perception of the matter. No sweat, this will be worked out.

I dont want to "win" this match, I want it to be fair.
The reason for a face to face is because I think we owe it to eachother to
make things straight, and the respectable man does this sort of negotiation in person.
Whatever, it was an idea. Just trying to settle a valid arguement between two friends who are in a pickle right now.

I will not post details as to why this transpired to protect those involved.
I will come to an reasonable settlement on this with BDJuff.
I will NOT talk to his partner. Him and I do not get along.

You are a good guy man, you deserve the full treatment.
Your post is cool with me because in the end everyone will be happy.

Happy Holidays to all except wdsguy. LOL (had to do that, lol, love love love)


Hers the facts regardless..

You knew he would mail.
You took his money.
You got in trouble..
You want him to pay for your mistake.
You lied and fucked em over hoping he would give up
You now backpeddle and still look like an ass

Outcome = YOU SUCK

theking 12-23-2005 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by .:St Ides:.
:helpme :helpme

Hmm...is this a case of multiple nicks? If so...isn't that against the rules of this board?

Webby 12-23-2005 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
I used to like kids...well let me put that a different way...I didn't dislike kids but thanks to GFY I have a distinct dislike for kids now.

That sounds kinda....... half baked.

I thought it was just foreign trash you didn't like. :winkwink:

Doctor Dre 12-23-2005 01:58 AM

Anyways now I really gotta go to sleep... this was interesting. good luck to both parties involved.

sonofsam 12-23-2005 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest
ummm. What part of Chris being a lier makes you think he's ever going to make it right?

A. He said they'd have all the servers up in 3 days.. They didn't.. Took weeks...

B. Chris says they were "fined", but when asked to provide proof, never has.

C. Chris agreed to refund the $8k... he lied again and didn't refund the money...

D. Chris agreed to refund part of the money, $8k minus half the "fine". He lied, never has.

E. He said he wired the money. He lied, wire has never been received.

So basically, Chris will lie to a customer when it suits him. Just because you've had a good relationship with him up until this point means nothing. Tomorrow YOU could be the one getting fuked over.

Oh.. And Chris confirmed that this info is correct and that yes, he is fucking the guy over.

Regardless of all the "other secret info" he may have and shares with a few people, none of that changes these facts, nor would it really make it acceptable business pratice.

This pretty much sums up my entire ramble, in a much easier to read format :2 cents:

and Split : to your comment about the same people who are always bashing you, if you were referring to me also, i have never once bashed split and in fact have a box in your datacentre (please don't unplug it :1orglaugh)

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
at what cost though? 8 months?

What about the cost to Split? The fine, the blacklist of an entire class c, I am sure if they took on enough complaints Spamhaus probably got involved. What about that?

Not saying that happened, but if it did, what about that?

baddog 12-23-2005 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn
He looks more like a linebacker than a kid :2 cents:


They have linebackers in Pop Warner too

theking 12-23-2005 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
Thanks Chris, yes it's true we just met recently. But, split did step up and do me right in a crazy situation. Is it having an influence on what I am saying not at all. What I was trying to do was bring up points for people to discuss.

Hmm...screwed up and posted under another nick the first time you posted this...now didn't you?

Doctor Dre 12-23-2005 02:01 AM

450 x goodnight . err postdance once again

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
What about the cost to Split? The fine, the blacklist of an entire class c, I am sure if they took on enough complaints Spamhaus probably got involved. What about that?

Not saying that happened, but if it did, what about that?

well this is what i'm talking about. How hard is it to fax proof over to bdjuf like he was supposed to and promised many times?

It is obviously not a secret now that they got spam complaints and a big fine, so why can't they fax bdjuf a copy of the fine? I'm sure bdjuf would be a bit more understanding and patient if he would have sent him some sort of proof, instead of a chain series of promises that he never followed through with :2 cents:


switch places here, how mad were u when you recently got fucked by your host? how pissed off would you be if your projects got delayed 8 months?


P.S. 450 BOYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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SplitInfinity 12-23-2005 02:02 AM

Not referring to you sonofsam :-)
Your comments are noted. Honestly this is to be resolved between him and I.
There was no lying involved, just alot of unusual circumstances that got out of hand.

I intend to settle this once and for all.

Cheers.

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
Hmm...screwed up and posted under another nick the first time you posted this...now didn't you?

Actually no, it's called more then one computer in the office. But, if you did want to ban everyone with a "fake nick" you are sure going to lose well over half the posters here.

Sorry I am trying to have a debate not defend board names lol

Cheers nice catch.

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
Actually no, it's called more then one computer in the office. But, if you did want to ban everyone with a "fake nick" you are sure going to lose well over half the posters here.

Sorry I am trying to have a debate not defend board names lol

Cheers nice catch.

Yah i agree with this comment, and sonofsams comments :2 cents:


edit: sorry, wrong nick

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
well this is what i'm talking about. How hard is it to fax proof over to bdjuf like he was supposed to and promised many times?

It is obviously not a secret now that they got spam complaints and a big fine, so why can't they fax bdjuf a copy of the fine? I'm sure bdjuf would be a bit more understanding and patient if he would have sent him some sort of proof, instead of a chain series of promises that he never followed through with :2 cents:


switch places here, how mad were u when you recently got fucked by your host? how pissed off would you be if your projects got delayed 8 months?


It did set me back well over 8 months, but I was not spamming at the old host.

I have said many times Split did not handle this properly over time. I think Bdjuf said it was August so on my calculations that's about 4 months, but either way that is a very long time.

Did Split handle this right no, are they offering to meet and make a resolve yes.

theking 12-23-2005 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
Actually no, it's called more then one computer in the office. But, if you did want to ban everyone with a "fake nick" you are sure going to lose well over half the posters here.

Sorry I am trying to have a debate not defend board names lol

Cheers nice catch.

No problem...explanation accepted...not that you actually owed me one...and you are undoutedly correct. I just thought it was amusing.

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
No problem...explanation accepted...not that you actually owed me one...and you are undoutedly correct. I just thought it was amusing.


Yes me to, I nearly shit myself when I saw it. I thought the Help was very fitting.

Anyways hit me up sometime if there is any biz we can get going 703 032

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
It did set me back well over 8 months, but I was not spamming at the old host.

I have said many times Split did not handle this properly over time. I think Bdjuf said it was August so on my calculations that's about 4 months, but either way that is a very long time.

Did Split handle this right no, are they offering to meet and make a resolve yes.

I understand your points, but using spamming is not a reasonable excuse...

it's not like bdjuf hit up split and was like, hey.. i need 20 servers to host my gay porn, and live raw video footage of calvin kleins autumn menswear line...

they were fully aware what he needed the servers for

TheJimmy 12-23-2005 02:08 AM

so when I wake up will this be at page 20?

dayummmmmmmmmmmm

Tempest 12-23-2005 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
What about the cost to Split? The fine, the blacklist of an entire class c, I am sure if they took on enough complaints Spamhaus probably got involved. What about that?

Not saying that happened, but if it did, what about that?

They made the decision to take on a spammer as part of their business. That's not the customers problem. On top of that, the customer and Chris came to a deal where they would split the fine money.. Chris screwed them on that deal... again...

What part of "I fucked him over." do you not get? He has clearly told all his current and future customers that if there's a situation that occurs and he's not happy with the way things are going, he will drag it out for months, lie to you, make deals and then back out of them. Do you really want to trust your money and business with someone like that?

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
Yes me to, I nearly shit myself when I saw it. I thought the Help was very fitting.

Anyways hit me up sometime if there is any biz we can get going 703 032

I think you are mistaking theking as a webmaster, take a look through his posts.. the only business you could get going with him, is if he signed up for a monthly membership... and even then, you better hope there are no coloured people in your members area, because he would most likely charge back. being the racist he is. :2 cents:

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
I understand your points, but using spamming is not a reasonable excuse...

it's not like bdjuf hit up split and was like, hey.. i need 20 servers to host my gay porn, and live raw video footage of calvin kleins autumn menswear line...

they were fully aware what he needed the servers for

I do not know if they were fully aware or not. I know many people with well over 20 boxes at a host. I've never had a host ask me if I planned to spam with the boxes I purchase, that should be dealt with in the contract you sign.

If Split was fully aware, they took a lot of heat and now are passing the buck to Bdjuf then yes that is very fucked up and they should do a refund and more. :2 cents:

lazycash 12-23-2005 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SplitInfinity
"
For those who said "I should eat my losses", I disagree. I have profound reasons for wanting this to be fair to my benefit.
:-)

Freudian slip? So if your negotiations end up to your benefit then you'll consider that fair, nice.

Ironic thing, SI will lose far more than 8k in revenue because of this thread. Why did it take this thread for Chris to finally want to meet face to face to resolve the issue? Is it really that hard to pick up the phone and hash things out over a long phone call?

Holly 12-23-2005 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
Actually no, it's called more then one computer in the office. But, if you did want to ban everyone with a "fake nick" you are sure going to lose well over half the posters here.

Sorry I am trying to have a debate not defend board names lol

Cheers nice catch.

You're way too nice.

Tell him to mind his own fucking business or you'll call the nursing home and have them suspend his computer privileges for surfing porn boards.

Antonio 12-23-2005 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
I do not know if they were fully aware or not. I know many people with well over 20 boxes at a host. I've never had a host ask me if I planned to spam with the boxes I purchase, that should be dealt with in the contract you sign.

If Split was fully aware, they took a lot of heat and now are passing the buck to Bdjuf then yes that is very fucked up and they should do a refund and more. :2 cents:

haha

c'mon man, of course they were aware

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
If Split was fully aware, they took a lot of heat and now are passing the buck to Bdjuf then yes that is very fucked up and they should do a refund and more. :2 cents:

Signing a spamming contract when splits datacentre is in the US ?

and i see we agree with eachother then, if split knew what the servers were for, then bdjuf deserves a refund AND more :2 cents:

Webby 12-23-2005 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
I think you are mistaking theking as a webmaster, take a look through his posts.. the only business you could get going with him, is if he signed up for a monthly membership... and even then, you better hope there are no coloured people in your members area, because he would most likely charge back. being the racist he is. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Two cents can carry a lot of value these days....

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Holly
You're way too nice.

Tell him to mind his own fucking business or you'll call the nursing home and have them suspend his computer privileges for surfing porn boards.

I have no idea who half these people are, I just reply with my thoughts. I have a business to run so I don't have time to surf GFY all day and see who is who.

Although I've spent way to much time in this thread. It's about time to open a beer relax and enjoy Matlock lol

theking 12-23-2005 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
I think you are mistaking theking as a webmaster, take a look through his posts.. the only business you could get going with him, is if he signed up for a monthly membership... and even then, you better hope there are no coloured people in your members area, because he would most likely charge back. being the racist he is. :2 cents:

As much as I find it to be distasteful...but as you keep begging for my attention...I will respond to your post kid.

I am and have been a webmaster for many, many years...as for being a racist...you are a liar...and if you are not you will post a link to a single racist comment I have ever made. Now feel free to wipe your snotty nose and go stand in a corner...kid.

GoNe 12-23-2005 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
It's not really any of my business, but since its plasted on gfy i'll share my 2 cents...

1.) Seems to me this was caused by chris not liking bjufs partner, and when his partner threatened to sue if he didn't get his money, started dicking them around to get "even" with him.. regardless of how much of an asshole bdjufs partner is, doesn't mean you should withhold their money without delivering their services/product

2.) You shouldn't be offering to fly him out there. YOU should be flying up there.

3.) When you keep saying you want to come to a "fair for both of you" solution, i'm assuming you mean deduct the fine from the 8000... in which case you should show proof to bdjuf... i don't know what is so hard about faxing them a copy of the fine?

4.) Holding someones money for 5 months and giving them a runaround is unacceptable any way you look at it, especially if it was over a grudge

AND THE MAIN POINT

5.) You didn't once address the fact that you told bjuf you had SENT the wire numerous times. So you are saying you lied about sending the money and gave them the runaround intentionally? bdjuf says hes got logs of you saying you've already sent the wire numerous times... so whats all this talk about "fly out here and resolve it" ? If you already told him you've sent the wire a bunch of times, looks like it was resolved, no? Then send the man his money


what it looks like, and you can choose to not say anything on gfy and exclaim you want to deal with it between you and bdjuf, is that you got in an arguement with bdjufs partner and decided to fuck with them + their time

moral of the story, even if someone pisses you off to no end, doesn't mean it makes it right to hold someones money for 5 months and give them the runaround with "i sent it a long time ago"


and on that note, i think its in yours and your companies best interest to address those concerns, because as it stands you are looking like a flat out liar.. telling someone you sent a wire 3+ times and not sending it :2 cents:


and damn, sorry for rambling... but that kind of shit pisses me off the most... "its been sent"

Very intresting to see what splitfinity answer to this.

SplitInfinity 12-23-2005 02:18 AM

Tempest is way biased here.... you dont even know all the facts...
And there are alot that will remain unknown in the public. :-)
Regardless, I didn't really "fuck him" as I have always been willing to
settle the matter. I just have my own issues with the settlement amount
and want it to be fair, thats all there is to it. No lying no BS nothing...
Just what I think is fair... which is why I need to talk to him more so we can
agree on it.

Cheers Tempest... regarless of whatever batteries are in your pack, your opinion
counts.

Have a happy holiday all!
Im going to be with my family to drink eggnog and so forth.

Peace on earth and all that...

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
I have no idea who half these people are, I just reply with my thoughts. I have a business to run so I don't have time to surf GFY all day and see who is who.

Although I've spent way to much time in this thread. It's about time to open a beer relax and enjoy Matlock lol

i was feelin your post, until you said the M word :1orglaugh

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio
haha

c'mon man, of course they were aware

This could be true. I would not know though lol

Just Mike 12-23-2005 02:19 AM

Wow! Im really sorry to hear that. I have never dealt with them but I hope you guys can work it out

nyana 12-23-2005 02:19 AM

Still not addressed is why they repeatedly lied about the transfer....

Wasting months of time is extremely costly and unprofessional ....

Really not sure why AMC is so vigorously defending them, your beating a dead horse ...

Suggesting to meet in person is a ludricous idea unless you are willing to pay thousands in flight / accomodation costs and most importantly lost time, which would really make no sense.

Not sure what this "secret" matter is but not disclosing it for protection makes it appear as if its BS. Perhaps you have a legit reason I just don't see it.


Going to be interesting to see the end result .. I would expect that given proper attention to this matter it should be able to be resolved before the weekend.

Good luck to both sides!

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
i was feelin your post, until you said the M word :1orglaugh

I said that because Holly made an old folks home reference.

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
blah blah blah

Show me 1 single adult url and i'll epass you 35 bucks

like making a PPS sale.

surfer.

theking 12-23-2005 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Holly
You're way too nice.

Tell him to mind his own fucking business or you'll call the nursing home and have them suspend his computer privileges for surfing porn boards.

Pig shit.

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
I said that because Holly made an old folks home reference.

haha sorry my bad, went way over my head... i think i've been looking at this screen too much :1orglaugh

Webby 12-23-2005 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by theking
As much as I find it to be distasteful...but as you keep begging for my attention...I will respond to your post kid.

I am and have been a webmaster for many, many years...as for being a racist...you are a liar...and if you are not you will post a link to a single racist comment I have ever made. Now feel free to wipe your snotty nose and go stand in a corner...kid.


I can see why folks get attracted to you when you get mad.

I'm getting really horny now :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


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