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Old 12-23-2005, 02:16 PM   #651
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I have to question the authenticity of a re-threat when the guy talking the shit can't spell more than 14% of the words he is typing.

You know where I live? Sure buddy.
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:23 PM   #652
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LOL, like you got anything for anybody.

NOBODY who talks as much SHIT as you ever does.
Dude, I have had attempts on my life.

Its not a big deal.
I mean it is a big deal but its not that bad. When its over it over.

When should I wear my Kevlar?
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I already do that I have worn kevlar to work in the early day, ya never know when a psycho Christian will come to shoot ya. I reccomend ya get with the ways of defending youself in this business. Its the nature of the game.
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:24 PM   #653
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someone is alittle jelouse here and mailing is against the law only in usa, there's no laws in canada, so therefore it is legal !
Thought everything is illegal in the US?

Sheesh... it's nice to be free!

How much longer is this thread gonna be?

JESTER! Pay the man and stop acting like a menopausal ballerina with an ego.

You screwed up at stage one and never delivered what you promised - they are called servers. You accepted money on that basis and now ducking and sliding to get an angle, - silly boy. We all screw up - just get over it.

Your rep don't matter more than a poxy $8K Christopher???

Shit.. if ya had that crap with me bdjuf, you'd have been paid already - without the bullshit. I'd be too damned ashamed at fucking up in the first place.
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:26 PM   #654
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Thought everything is illegal in the US?

Sheesh... it's nice to be free!

How much longer is this thread gonna be?

JESTER! Pay the man and stop acting like a menopausal ballerina with an ego.

You screwed up at stage one and never delivered what you promised - they are called servers. You accepted money on that basis and now ducking and sliding to get an angle, - silly boy. We all screw up - just get over it.

Your rep don't matter more than a poxy $8K Christopher???

Shit.. if ya had that crap with me bdjuf, you'd have been paid already - without the bullshit. I'd be too damned ashamed at fucking up in the first place.
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:32 PM   #656
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Yeah but you need Americans to buy the shit you shove in thier faces.
Tell us that you do not mail to American cistizens

tell us that ya do not relie on Americans buying the shit while robbing hard working webmaster's on the sites they honestly market and gain traffic to.

See the bottom line is that ya are taking peoples money that work harder than you do.
americans buy it because they want to buy it, nobody puts a gun to their face... nobody is robbing anyone, mailing is alot harder then you think and normal webmaster simply doesn't want to do it because he has no knowladge or resources to do so... if you ask 100 webmasters what they want to do, make tgp pages for cents or mail to earn real money and you provide them everything, I bet you 80/100 will say mailing.. you or webmasters DO NOT work harder then mailers, mailers work alot harder but with that come good rewards.... so jelouse mofo move on
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Yet foriegners wont follow the rules, yet penetrate and relie the American consumer.

Its kinda like theft aint it? Yup.
Kinda an unfair advantage, yet somehow a strange justification that they should be allowed to liquidate people that would buy our sites with or without em.

Fact is...
A program and any adult business does not need a spammer's help.
Infact a spammer just takes from everyones hard work via abusive and subversive tactics while trying to label it a "Business".

Its not a business.
A business does not send unwanted explicit pictures and text to anyone that does not want it especially children.

Sorry BradM you're hero spammer is one step short of a child molester that is subverssive to an honest working webmaster and a hazard to our industry.
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:39 PM   #658
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either way, a xbiz winner or any pro hosting company shouldnt ignore phone calls 80 of them for that matter just because they don't want to deal with a customer. thats just wrong. they paid the money, refund it. you can't take someones money then ignore them of course you are going to expect to get lawyers, etc. the good thing to do would be refund them even though what it was being used for, we dont know the full story, and we dont know both sides for sure. not taking anyones sides.
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:46 PM   #659
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Yet foriegners wont follow the rules, yet penetrate and relie the American consumer.

Its kinda like theft aint it? Yup.
Kinda an unfair advantage, yet somehow a strange justification that they should be allowed to liquidate people that would buy our sites with or without em.
Alien.. quick question. When you design sites, - is there a stage where ya need to write English?

What does this mean??

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Yet foriegners wont follow the rules, yet penetrate and relie the American consumer.
Going to assume... you are saying "foreigners" are abusing the US consumer?

That hoss don't run my man. The US abuses the US consumer and almost all countries are the same.

Who made these "rules" you want folks to follow? The world is a big place and generally don't have all these "rules" and don't actually give a damn.

That said, agree with you on spamming - it's an utter pain in the ass. There is no 'evidence' of spamming in this instance - least yet. If it was the case that SI did this deal knowing the purpose of the servers was to spam - that's just another example of "US consumer" abuse by a US company.

As an aside, there is more damned spamming originating either in the US or by US motivators than any other country.
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Sorry BradM you're hero spammer is one step short of a child molester that is subverssive to an honest working webmaster and a hazard to our industry.
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Damm Alien - what are you on? While I haven't mailed in years - A mailer is no way as bad as a child abuser, etc. WTF......

In 96-98 we had 23 servers at our office mailing almost 24/7, it was nice back then. But started having lots of probs with our t-1 providers, so we finally closed it all down.. While I don't support at all kids getting any type of adult email, I also don't have big problems with opt in and other types of mail. of course a real removal box is nice
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:49 PM   #661
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Sorry BradM you're hero spammer is one step short of a child molester that is subverssive to an honest working webmaster and a hazard to our industry.
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Damm Alien - what are you on? While I haven't mailed in years - A mailer is no way as bad as a child abuser, etc. WTF......

In 96-98 we had 23 servers at our office mailing almost 24/7, it was nice back then. But started having lots of probs with our t-1 providers, so we finally closed it all down.. While I don't support at all kids getting any type of adult email, I also don't have big problems with opt in and other types of mail. of course a real removal box is nice

Sure it is. Go ahead and knock on a door and tell a parent that thier kid just got your explicit spam mail that you sent. Tell em that his kid used his credit card to gain access to an adult website.

Case and point.
You will end up dead or beaten or in jail.
Maybe all 3.
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:50 PM   #662
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Yet foriegners wont follow the rules, yet penetrate and relie the American consumer.

Its kinda like theft aint it? Yup.
Kinda an unfair advantage, yet somehow a strange justification that they should be allowed to liquidate people that would buy our sites with or without em.

Fact is...
A program and any adult business does not need a spammer's help.
Infact a spammer just takes from everyones hard work via abusive and subversive tactics while trying to label it a "Business".

Its not a business.
A business does not send unwanted explicit pictures and text to anyone that does not want it especially children.

Sorry BradM you're hero spammer is one step short of a child molester that is subverssive to an honest working webmaster and a hazard to our industry.
yeah.. u claim spammers are low and ur a smut peddler. im sure in the eyes of the public u must be revered.

What the fuck do u care what he does? if they ever make porn illegal in us, i just love to see ur fugly expression
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BDJuf if ya can come in here and honestly say that you have not sent adult related mail spam and keep a straight face, please do so!

LOL.
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:54 PM   #664
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Sure it is. Go ahead and knock on a door and tell a parent that thier kid just got your explicit spam mail that you sent. Tell em that his kid used his credit card to gain access to an adult website.

Case and point.
You will end up dead or beaten or in jail.
Maybe all 3.

As I said Alien - I do not Support adult related email going to minors, I never have. I don't have a problem with spammers per say. If they want to mail, that's there biz and deal, not mine. All mailers know the risk they might be taking when mailing. I have nothing to worry about, haven't mailed in years.
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BDJuf if ya can come in here and honestly say that you have not sent adult related mail spam and keep a straight face, please do so!

LOL.
whats adult related? penis pills and viagra? i dont want my kids knowing what those blue pills are used for.
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yeah.. u claim spammers are low and ur a smut peddler. im sure in the eyes of the public u must be revered.

What the fuck do u care what he does? if they ever make porn illegal in us, i just love to see ur fugly expression
I care because he is the kind of scum bag that is taking money out of my pocket and alot of other honest working webmasters pockets!
That same consumer could have easily searched for my sites or my TGP's or what have you and I would have gottin the same result.

It goes accross the board and circumvents ethical marketing resulting in a loss of income for any honest working webmaster while bringing down unnecessary laws and attention to our honest business.

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BDJuf if ya can come in here and honestly say that you have not sent adult related mail spam and keep a straight face, please do so!

LOL.
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BDJuf if ya can come in here and honestly say that you have not sent adult related mail spam and keep a straight face, please do so!

LOL.
Man.. it's not about spamming. It's about taking $8K and not delivering, then behaving like an ass when refund time comes.

Little doubt BDJuf discussed the usage of severs - and ain't saying they were for spam, - but Chris knows what his clients want 20 something boxes for??

It's about 80'ish occasions of being slippery with money over.. 6-8 (?) months. The rest is bullshit.
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I have never sent adult images in the message body of emais I send
most of what I have sent has been related to replica watches, pharmacies, mortgages, and dating
That's worse than porn spamming imho - my mailbox gets clogged with unwanted bullshit and I don't even get to see boobies.
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That's worse than porn spamming imho - my mailbox gets clogged with unwanted bullshit and I don't even get to see boobies.

LOL, funny one there

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I care because he is the kind of scum bag that is taking money out of my pocket and alot of other honest working webmasters pockets!
That same consumer could have easily searched for my sites or my TGP's or what have you and I would have gottin the same result.

It goes accross the board and circumvents ethical marketing resulting in a loss of income for any honest working webmaster while bringing down unnecessary laws and attention to our honest business.
Why are u correlating between people purchasing from emails and people searching to ur site and buying? do u not understand difference between push marketing and pull marketing?

he is pushing, ur pulling.
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That's worse than porn spamming imho - my mailbox gets clogged with unwanted bullshit and I don't even get to see boobies.
Dammit dig420! You want a nice paysite membership with pics of (insert keywords here) big natural tits, huge big tits, puffy nipples, big boobs - and all that disgusting stuff ???
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So your take is: better to spend your time on GFY spewing hate and bigotry than discuss something business related.
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What a fucking MAROON! Such an IM-BE-CILL

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Why are u correlating between people purchasing from emails and people searching to ur site and buying? do u not understand difference between push marketing and pull marketing?

he is pushing, ur pulling.

Adult Entertainment is not a push, its a pull.

People love it and eventually get it when they want it.
Thats a no brainer, any good and highly succesful pornographer will tell you that.
There are literally tons of ways to make money honestly in adult and none of it has to be invasive or unwanted pitches.

Forcing the shit on people is akin to Rape.

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People are really going crazy on this spam issue. it is not rape. it is not horrible. It built the internet. Backbone is expensive and it is good that there was a commercial use for it in the beginning. It went over the top and was abused massively so it is being regulated. But lets get off our high horse. 6 year old kids should not have email accounts for all kinds of reasons. They are not getting porn spam.
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what we have here is basically scammers bitching about
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These days EVERYTHING is called spam by the inbred antis, even DRM files on P2P
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I will prolly change my host provider to, knowing now that they were gonna support ya. Not that they will miss me any but it's the right thing to do.

For me.

People that support Spamming scum bags = No Good.


So anyone know any hosts that will not host spammers?
what is your problem? You know in some countries mailing is legal. I dont know what the hell is so bad about it? sure i was quite annoyed by 800 emails a day on an addy of mine, but hey just activate your junk mail filter.
I dont have any problems with peeps try to make money with mailing.. this childish bashing of bdjuf by you reminds me of kindergarten.
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alright, on a more relevant note, Chris and I have come to a little agreement where he will wire me a "fair" amount after christmas as well as fax me proof of the fine he recieved.

hopefully this will be taken care of early next week and this thread will only be a memory!
Not my business, but frankly a fair amount would be at least 8k, imo.

Mr. Jester's no babe in the woods when it comes to hosting mailers, and I'm sure he's well aware of the risks.

Not sure where this fine thing comes in to play, I've never heard of that.
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either way, a xbiz winner or any pro hosting company shouldnt ignore phone calls 80 of them for that matter just because they don't want to deal with a customer. thats just wrong. they paid the money, refund it. you can't take someones money then ignore them of course you are going to expect to get lawyers, etc. the good thing to do would be refund them even though what it was being used for, we dont know the full story, and we dont know both sides for sure. not taking anyones sides.
I also don't think that an XBiz award winning host should be supporting spammers or enterprises that depend on spam to make money. There would be appear to be a whole ton of wrong and very little right going on here.

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fair should be $8k. Cost of doing business for SI should be to eat that 'fine'.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:34 PM   #688
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Yet foriegners wont follow the rules, yet penetrate and relie the American consumer.

Its kinda like theft aint it? Yup.
Kinda an unfair advantage, yet somehow a strange justification that they should be allowed to liquidate people that would buy our sites with or without em.

Fact is...
A program and any adult business does not need a spammer's help.

Infact a spammer just takes from everyones hard work via abusive and subversive tactics while trying to label it a "Business".

Its not a business.
A business does not send unwanted explicit pictures and text to anyone that does not want it especially children.

Sorry BradM you're hero spammer is one step short of a child molester that is subverssive to an honest working webmaster and a hazard to our industry.
this shows how much you know about adult industry.. and shows that you just a n00b who is so jelouse that you probably burning inside.. DID YOU KNOW that most of adult programs started off from getting people to mail them? almost every company has "big time" mailers who mail for them, many became rich because of mailers, so you telling me it's not a business ? you calling pushing tgp for $100/day a business then ? you make me laugh so hard man, thx
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:45 PM   #689
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this shows how much you know about adult industry.. and shows that you just a n00b who is so jelouse that you probably burning inside.. DID YOU KNOW that most of adult programs started off from getting people to mail them? almost every company has "big time" mailers who mail for them, many became rich because of mailers, so you telling me it's not a business ? you calling pushing tgp for $100/day a business then ? you make me laugh so hard man, thx
SO that what makes it right and OK?! Stupid me!

Diffrent times then.
Especially regarding American Law.

So to keep ya up to date...
Times are different.

Classic idiot justification for abusive "Business" practices.

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Old 12-23-2005, 04:58 PM   #690
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I have to question the authenticity of a re-threat when the guy talking the shit can't spell more than 14% of the words he is typing.

You know where I live? Sure buddy.
Fuckin' homo, who would be scared of your flabby ass?
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:31 PM   #691
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this shows how much you know about adult industry.. and shows that you just a n00b who is so jelouse that you probably burning inside.. DID YOU KNOW that most of adult programs started off from getting people to mail them? almost every company has "big time" mailers who mail for them, many became rich because of mailers, so you telling me it's not a business ? you calling pushing tgp for $100/day a business then ? you make me laugh so hard man, thx
qwe: The columbian cartel has tons of people moving huge amounts of southern snow for them, they are getting rich, and it is totally against the law. Do you truly think that the only measure of acceptability is the pile of cash made?

Business model for spammers is "spam from this server until stopped, then move to next server, next host, next IP, next relay, next program that can handle the heat"... accepting at each step that their stuff is not considered acceptable by a large cross section of the net, the constant moving, dodging, and hiding as a result of doing something that is only tolerated by certain groups and people. It is a business, yes, but not exactly one that they will come out and admit to - and most of the programs won't admit it out loud either.

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Old 12-23-2005, 05:35 PM   #692
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:52 PM   #693
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I am pleased to say I have turned a many a spam email
originating from split over to the feds and spamcop.
what we have here is basically scammers bitching about
getting scammed by scammers
which
is what 99% of gfy is comprised of.
classic thread indeed

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I could have not said that better myself...

Why didn't metrospamboy simply follow the advice in his own Sig and host his shit at SpamAir. I noticed that they are home to 4 ROKSO spammers and they always "service" any scumbag if the price is right....

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings...isp=webair.com

compared to Split

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings...itinfinity.net
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:07 PM   #694
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I could have not said that better myself...

Why didn't metrospamboy simply follow the advice in his own Sig and host his shit at SpamAir. I noticed that they are home to 4 ROKSO spammers and they always "service" any scumbag if the price is right....

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings...isp=webair.com

compared to Split

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings...itinfinity.net
Why does it matter ? If they said they would host it, then it's their problem...
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:38 PM   #695
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This is all karma though. When you send people unwanted fucking emails what the hell do you think is going to happen to you?
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:41 PM   #696
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Why does it matter ? If they said they would host it, then it's their problem...
Exactly!

it doesnt matter what the client does as long as the company is ok with it.... which in this case it looks like they were ok with it and they backed out and ripped off a client.. as simple as that..
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:24 PM   #698
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I care because he is the kind of scum bag that is taking money out of my pocket and alot of other honest working webmasters pockets!
That same consumer could have easily searched for my sites or my TGP's or what have you and I would have gottin the same result.

It goes accross the board and circumvents ethical marketing resulting in a loss of income for any honest working webmaster while bringing down unnecessary laws and attention to our honest business.
That's like saying internet traffic detracts from your IRC traffic.

Whatever. The above posts are right. Mailers are a huge business, and they make huge money.
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:49 PM   #699
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That's like saying internet traffic detracts from your IRC traffic.

Whatever. The above posts are right. Mailers are a huge business, and they make huge money.
Total Idiot.
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