I have to question the authenticity of a re-threat when the guy talking the shit can't spell more than 14% of the words he is typing.

You know where I live? Sure buddy.

Dude, I have had attempts on my life.

Its not a big deal.
I mean it is a big deal but its not that bad. When its over it over.

When should I wear my Kevlar?
Internext?
I already do that:) I have worn kevlar to work in the early day, ya never know when a psycho Christian will come to shoot ya. I reccomend ya get with the ways of defending youself in this business. Its the nature of the game.

Thought everything is illegal in the US? :winkwink:

Sheesh... it's nice to be free!

How much longer is this thread gonna be?

JESTER! Pay the man and stop acting like a menopausal ballerina with an ego.

You screwed up at stage one and never delivered what you promised - they are called servers. You accepted money on that basis and now ducking and sliding to get an angle, - silly boy. We all screw up - just get over it.

Your rep don't matter more than a poxy $8K Christopher???

Shit.. if ya had that crap with me bdjuf, you'd have been paid already - without the bullshit. I'd be too damned ashamed at fucking up in the first place.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :2 cents:

bump for you...

americans buy it because they want to buy it, nobody puts a gun to their face... nobody is robbing anyone, mailing is alot harder then you think and normal webmaster simply doesn't want to do it because he has no knowladge or resources to do so... if you ask 100 webmasters what they want to do, make tgp pages for cents or mail to earn real money and you provide them everything, I bet you 80/100 will say mailing.. you or webmasters DO NOT work harder then mailers, mailers work alot harder but with that come good rewards.... so jelouse mofo move on

Yet foriegners wont follow the rules, yet penetrate and relie the American consumer.

Its kinda like theft aint it? Yup.
Kinda an unfair advantage, yet somehow a strange justification that they should be allowed to liquidate people that would buy our sites with or without em.

Fact is...
A program and any adult business does not need a spammer's help.
Infact a spammer just takes from everyones hard work via abusive and subversive tactics while trying to label it a "Business".

Its not a business.
A business does not send unwanted explicit pictures and text to anyone that does not want it especially children.

Sorry BradM you're hero spammer is one step short of a child molester that is subverssive to an honest working webmaster and a hazard to our industry.

either way, a xbiz winner or any pro hosting company shouldnt ignore phone calls 80 of them for that matter just because they don't want to deal with a customer. thats just wrong. they paid the money, refund it. you can't take someones money then ignore them of course you are going to expect to get lawyers, etc. the good thing to do would be refund them even though what it was being used for, we dont know the full story, and we dont know both sides for sure. not taking anyones sides.

Alien.. quick question. When you design sites, - is there a stage where ya need to write English? :winkwink:

What does this mean??

Going to assume... you are saying "foreigners" are abusing the US consumer?

That hoss don't run my man. The US abuses the US consumer and almost all countries are the same.

Who made these "rules" you want folks to follow? The world is a big place and generally don't have all these "rules" and don't actually give a damn.

That said, agree with you on spamming - it's an utter pain in the ass. There is no 'evidence' of spamming in this instance - least yet. If it was the case that SI did this deal knowing the purpose of the servers was to spam - that's just another example of "US consumer" abuse by a US company.

As an aside, there is more damned spamming originating either in the US or by US motivators than any other country.

Sorry BradM you're hero spammer is one step short of a child molester that is subverssive to an honest working webmaster and a hazard to our industry.
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Damm Alien - what are you on? While I haven't mailed in years - A mailer is no way as bad as a child abuser, etc. WTF......

In 96-98 we had 23 servers at our office mailing almost 24/7, it was nice back then. But started having lots of probs with our t-1 providers, so we finally closed it all down.. While I don't support at all kids getting any type of adult email, I also don't have big problems with opt in and other types of mail. of course a real removal box is nice :)

Sure it is. Go ahead and knock on a door and tell a parent that thier kid just got your explicit spam mail that you sent. Tell em that his kid used his credit card to gain access to an adult website.

Case and point.
You will end up dead or beaten or in jail.
Maybe all 3.

yeah.. u claim spammers are low and ur a smut peddler. im sure in the eyes of the public u must be revered.

What the fuck do u care what he does? if they ever make porn illegal in us, i just love to see ur fugly expression

BDJuf if ya can come in here and honestly say that you have not sent adult related mail spam and keep a straight face, please do so!

LOL.

As I said Alien - I do not Support adult related email going to minors, I never have. I don't have a problem with spammers per say. If they want to mail, that's there biz and deal, not mine. All mailers know the risk they might be taking when mailing. I have nothing to worry about, haven't mailed in years.

whats adult related? penis pills and viagra? i dont want my kids knowing what those blue pills are used for.

I care because he is the kind of scum bag that is taking money out of my pocket and alot of other honest working webmasters pockets!
That same consumer could have easily searched for my sites or my TGP's or what have you and I would have gottin the same result.

It goes accross the board and circumvents ethical marketing resulting in a loss of income for any honest working webmaster while bringing down unnecessary laws and attention to our honest business.

I can tell you everything you want on ICQ

Man.. it's not about spamming. It's about taking $8K and not delivering, then behaving like an ass when refund time comes.

Little doubt BDJuf discussed the usage of severs - and ain't saying they were for spam, - but Chris knows what his clients want 20 something boxes for??

It's about 80'ish occasions of being slippery with money over.. 6-8 (?) months. The rest is bullshit.

That's worse than porn spamming imho - my mailbox gets clogged with unwanted bullshit and I don't even get to see boobies.

LOL, funny one there :)

Happy Holidays Bernie...

Why are u correlating between people purchasing from emails and people searching to ur site and buying? do u not understand difference between push marketing and pull marketing?

he is pushing, ur pulling.

Dammit dig420! You want a nice paysite membership with pics of (insert keywords here) big natural tits, huge big tits, puffy nipples, big boobs - and all that disgusting stuff ??? :winkwink:

So your take is: better to spend your time on GFY spewing hate and bigotry than discuss something business related. :321GFY

What a fucking MAROON! Such an IM-BE-CILL

http://www.onlinesports.com/images/toon-groucho.jpeg

Adult Entertainment is not a push, its a pull.

People love it and eventually get it when they want it.
Thats a no brainer, any good and highly succesful pornographer will tell you that.
There are literally tons of ways to make money honestly in adult and none of it has to be invasive or unwanted pitches.

Forcing the shit on people is akin to Rape.

Am I too late for a sig spot?

Hey bdjuf, sorry to hear about you getting jerked around. Hope things turn around for you.

Chris
icq: 3150501

People are really going crazy on this spam issue. it is not rape. it is not horrible. It built the internet. Backbone is expensive and it is good that there was a commercial use for it in the beginning. It went over the top and was abused massively so it is being regulated. But lets get off our high horse. 6 year old kids should not have email accounts for all kinds of reasons. They are not getting porn spam.

URL's please?

These days EVERYTHING is called spam by the inbred antis, even DRM files on P2P :1orglaugh

anyone wanna get my sig?

what is your problem? You know in some countries mailing is legal. I dont know what the hell is so bad about it? sure i was quite annoyed by 800 emails a day on an addy of mine, but hey just activate your junk mail filter.
I dont have any problems with peeps try to make money with mailing.. this childish bashing of bdjuf by you reminds me of kindergarten.

Not my business, but frankly a fair amount would be at least 8k, imo.

Mr. Jester's no babe in the woods when it comes to hosting mailers, and I'm sure he's well aware of the risks.

Not sure where this fine thing comes in to play, I've never heard of that.

I also don't think that an XBiz award winning host should be supporting spammers or enterprises that depend on spam to make money. There would be appear to be a whole ton of wrong and very little right going on here.

Alex

fair should be $8k. Cost of doing business for SI should be to eat that 'fine'.

8 k can buy alot of hairgel

and tanning lotion!

remind me to have sex with you at Internext.

this shows how much you know about adult industry.. and shows that you just a n00b who is so jelouse that you probably burning inside.. DID YOU KNOW that most of adult programs started off from getting people to mail them? almost every company has "big time" mailers who mail for them, many became rich because of mailers, so you telling me it's not a business ? you calling pushing tgp for $100/day a business then ? you make me laugh so hard man, thx :1orglaugh

SO that what makes it right and OK?! Stupid me! :1orglaugh

Diffrent times then.
Especially regarding American Law.

So to keep ya up to date...
Times are different.

Classic idiot justification for abusive "Business" practices.

A Lemming.

Fuckin' homo, who would be scared of your flabby ass? :321GFY

qwe: The columbian cartel has tons of people moving huge amounts of southern snow for them, they are getting rich, and it is totally against the law. Do you truly think that the only measure of acceptability is the pile of cash made?

Business model for spammers is "spam from this server until stopped, then move to next server, next host, next IP, next relay, next program that can handle the heat"... accepting at each step that their stuff is not considered acceptable by a large cross section of the net, the constant moving, dodging, and hiding as a result of doing something that is only tolerated by certain groups and people. It is a business, yes, but not exactly one that they will come out and admit to - and most of the programs won't admit it out loud either.

Alex

and alot of accessories

I could have not said that better myself...

Why didn't metrospamboy simply follow the advice in his own Sig and host his shit at SpamAir. I noticed that they are home to 4 ROKSO spammers and they always "service" any scumbag if the price is right....

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings...isp=webair.com

compared to Split

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings...itinfinity.net

Why does it matter ? If they said they would host it, then it's their problem...

This is all karma though. When you send people unwanted fucking emails what the hell do you think is going to happen to you?

Exactly!

it doesnt matter what the client does as long as the company is ok with it.... which in this case it looks like they were ok with it and they backed out and ripped off a client.. as simple as that..

14 pages LMAO

That's like saying internet traffic detracts from your IRC traffic.

Whatever. The above posts are right. Mailers are a huge business, and they make huge money.

Total Idiot.

699............