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sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
What about the cost to Split? The fine, the blacklist of an entire class c, I am sure if they took on enough complaints Spamhaus probably got involved. What about that?

Not saying that happened, but if it did, what about that?
well this is what i'm talking about. How hard is it to fax proof over to bdjuf like he was supposed to and promised many times?

It is obviously not a secret now that they got spam complaints and a big fine, so why can't they fax bdjuf a copy of the fine? I'm sure bdjuf would be a bit more understanding and patient if he would have sent him some sort of proof, instead of a chain series of promises that he never followed through with :2 cents:


switch places here, how mad were u when you recently got fucked by your host? how pissed off would you be if your projects got delayed 8 months?


P.S. 450 BOYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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SplitInfinity 12-23-2005 02:02 AM
Not referring to you sonofsam :-)
Your comments are noted. Honestly this is to be resolved between him and I.
There was no lying involved, just alot of unusual circumstances that got out of hand.

I intend to settle this once and for all.

Cheers.

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theking
Hmm...screwed up and posted under another nick the first time you posted this...now didn't you?
Actually no, it's called more then one computer in the office. But, if you did want to ban everyone with a "fake nick" you are sure going to lose well over half the posters here.

Sorry I am trying to have a debate not defend board names lol

Cheers nice catch.

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
Actually no, it's called more then one computer in the office. But, if you did want to ban everyone with a "fake nick" you are sure going to lose well over half the posters here.

Sorry I am trying to have a debate not defend board names lol

Cheers nice catch.
Yah i agree with this comment, and sonofsams comments :2 cents:


edit: sorry, wrong nick

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
well this is what i'm talking about. How hard is it to fax proof over to bdjuf like he was supposed to and promised many times?

It is obviously not a secret now that they got spam complaints and a big fine, so why can't they fax bdjuf a copy of the fine? I'm sure bdjuf would be a bit more understanding and patient if he would have sent him some sort of proof, instead of a chain series of promises that he never followed through with :2 cents:


switch places here, how mad were u when you recently got fucked by your host? how pissed off would you be if your projects got delayed 8 months?

It did set me back well over 8 months, but I was not spamming at the old host.

I have said many times Split did not handle this properly over time. I think Bdjuf said it was August so on my calculations that's about 4 months, but either way that is a very long time.

Did Split handle this right no, are they offering to meet and make a resolve yes.

theking 12-23-2005 02:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
Actually no, it's called more then one computer in the office. But, if you did want to ban everyone with a "fake nick" you are sure going to lose well over half the posters here.

Sorry I am trying to have a debate not defend board names lol

Cheers nice catch.
No problem...explanation accepted...not that you actually owed me one...and you are undoutedly correct. I just thought it was amusing.

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theking
No problem...explanation accepted...not that you actually owed me one...and you are undoutedly correct. I just thought it was amusing.

Yes me to, I nearly shit myself when I saw it. I thought the Help was very fitting.

Anyways hit me up sometime if there is any biz we can get going 703 032

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
It did set me back well over 8 months, but I was not spamming at the old host.

I have said many times Split did not handle this properly over time. I think Bdjuf said it was August so on my calculations that's about 4 months, but either way that is a very long time.

Did Split handle this right no, are they offering to meet and make a resolve yes.
I understand your points, but using spamming is not a reasonable excuse...

it's not like bdjuf hit up split and was like, hey.. i need 20 servers to host my gay porn, and live raw video footage of calvin kleins autumn menswear line...

they were fully aware what he needed the servers for

TheJimmy 12-23-2005 02:08 AM
so when I wake up will this be at page 20?

dayummmmmmmmmmmm

Tempest 12-23-2005 02:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
What about the cost to Split? The fine, the blacklist of an entire class c, I am sure if they took on enough complaints Spamhaus probably got involved. What about that?

Not saying that happened, but if it did, what about that?
They made the decision to take on a spammer as part of their business. That's not the customers problem. On top of that, the customer and Chris came to a deal where they would split the fine money.. Chris screwed them on that deal... again...

What part of "I fucked him over." do you not get? He has clearly told all his current and future customers that if there's a situation that occurs and he's not happy with the way things are going, he will drag it out for months, lie to you, make deals and then back out of them. Do you really want to trust your money and business with someone like that?

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
Yes me to, I nearly shit myself when I saw it. I thought the Help was very fitting.

Anyways hit me up sometime if there is any biz we can get going 703 032
I think you are mistaking theking as a webmaster, take a look through his posts.. the only business you could get going with him, is if he signed up for a monthly membership... and even then, you better hope there are no coloured people in your members area, because he would most likely charge back. being the racist he is. :2 cents:

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
I understand your points, but using spamming is not a reasonable excuse...

it's not like bdjuf hit up split and was like, hey.. i need 20 servers to host my gay porn, and live raw video footage of calvin kleins autumn menswear line...

they were fully aware what he needed the servers for
I do not know if they were fully aware or not. I know many people with well over 20 boxes at a host. I've never had a host ask me if I planned to spam with the boxes I purchase, that should be dealt with in the contract you sign.

If Split was fully aware, they took a lot of heat and now are passing the buck to Bdjuf then yes that is very fucked up and they should do a refund and more. :2 cents:

lazycash 12-23-2005 02:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitInfinity
"
For those who said "I should eat my losses", I disagree. I have profound reasons for wanting this to be fair to my benefit.
:-)
Freudian slip? So if your negotiations end up to your benefit then you'll consider that fair, nice.

Ironic thing, SI will lose far more than 8k in revenue because of this thread. Why did it take this thread for Chris to finally want to meet face to face to resolve the issue? Is it really that hard to pick up the phone and hash things out over a long phone call?

Holly 12-23-2005 02:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
Actually no, it's called more then one computer in the office. But, if you did want to ban everyone with a "fake nick" you are sure going to lose well over half the posters here.

Sorry I am trying to have a debate not defend board names lol

Cheers nice catch.
You're way too nice.

Tell him to mind his own fucking business or you'll call the nursing home and have them suspend his computer privileges for surfing porn boards.

Antonio 12-23-2005 02:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
I do not know if they were fully aware or not. I know many people with well over 20 boxes at a host. I've never had a host ask me if I planned to spam with the boxes I purchase, that should be dealt with in the contract you sign.

If Split was fully aware, they took a lot of heat and now are passing the buck to Bdjuf then yes that is very fucked up and they should do a refund and more. :2 cents:
haha

c'mon man, of course they were aware

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
If Split was fully aware, they took a lot of heat and now are passing the buck to Bdjuf then yes that is very fucked up and they should do a refund and more. :2 cents:
Signing a spamming contract when splits datacentre is in the US ?

and i see we agree with eachother then, if split knew what the servers were for, then bdjuf deserves a refund AND more :2 cents:

Webby 12-23-2005 02:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
I think you are mistaking theking as a webmaster, take a look through his posts.. the only business you could get going with him, is if he signed up for a monthly membership... and even then, you better hope there are no coloured people in your members area, because he would most likely charge back. being the racist he is. :2 cents:
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Two cents can carry a lot of value these days....

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Holly
You're way too nice.

Tell him to mind his own fucking business or you'll call the nursing home and have them suspend his computer privileges for surfing porn boards.
I have no idea who half these people are, I just reply with my thoughts. I have a business to run so I don't have time to surf GFY all day and see who is who.

Although I've spent way to much time in this thread. It's about time to open a beer relax and enjoy Matlock lol

theking 12-23-2005 02:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
I think you are mistaking theking as a webmaster, take a look through his posts.. the only business you could get going with him, is if he signed up for a monthly membership... and even then, you better hope there are no coloured people in your members area, because he would most likely charge back. being the racist he is. :2 cents:
As much as I find it to be distasteful...but as you keep begging for my attention...I will respond to your post kid.

I am and have been a webmaster for many, many years...as for being a racist...you are a liar...and if you are not you will post a link to a single racist comment I have ever made. Now feel free to wipe your snotty nose and go stand in a corner...kid.

GoNe 12-23-2005 02:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
It's not really any of my business, but since its plasted on gfy i'll share my 2 cents...

1.) Seems to me this was caused by chris not liking bjufs partner, and when his partner threatened to sue if he didn't get his money, started dicking them around to get "even" with him.. regardless of how much of an asshole bdjufs partner is, doesn't mean you should withhold their money without delivering their services/product

2.) You shouldn't be offering to fly him out there. YOU should be flying up there.

3.) When you keep saying you want to come to a "fair for both of you" solution, i'm assuming you mean deduct the fine from the 8000... in which case you should show proof to bdjuf... i don't know what is so hard about faxing them a copy of the fine?

4.) Holding someones money for 5 months and giving them a runaround is unacceptable any way you look at it, especially if it was over a grudge

AND THE MAIN POINT

5.) You didn't once address the fact that you told bjuf you had SENT the wire numerous times. So you are saying you lied about sending the money and gave them the runaround intentionally? bdjuf says hes got logs of you saying you've already sent the wire numerous times... so whats all this talk about "fly out here and resolve it" ? If you already told him you've sent the wire a bunch of times, looks like it was resolved, no? Then send the man his money


what it looks like, and you can choose to not say anything on gfy and exclaim you want to deal with it between you and bdjuf, is that you got in an arguement with bdjufs partner and decided to fuck with them + their time

moral of the story, even if someone pisses you off to no end, doesn't mean it makes it right to hold someones money for 5 months and give them the runaround with "i sent it a long time ago"


and on that note, i think its in yours and your companies best interest to address those concerns, because as it stands you are looking like a flat out liar.. telling someone you sent a wire 3+ times and not sending it :2 cents:


and damn, sorry for rambling... but that kind of shit pisses me off the most... "its been sent"
Very intresting to see what splitfinity answer to this.

SplitInfinity 12-23-2005 02:18 AM
Tempest is way biased here.... you dont even know all the facts...
And there are alot that will remain unknown in the public. :-)
Regardless, I didn't really "fuck him" as I have always been willing to
settle the matter. I just have my own issues with the settlement amount
and want it to be fair, thats all there is to it. No lying no BS nothing...
Just what I think is fair... which is why I need to talk to him more so we can
agree on it.

Cheers Tempest... regarless of whatever batteries are in your pack, your opinion
counts.

Have a happy holiday all!
Im going to be with my family to drink eggnog and so forth.

Peace on earth and all that...

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
I have no idea who half these people are, I just reply with my thoughts. I have a business to run so I don't have time to surf GFY all day and see who is who.

Although I've spent way to much time in this thread. It's about time to open a beer relax and enjoy Matlock lol
i was feelin your post, until you said the M word :1orglaugh

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antonio
haha

c'mon man, of course they were aware
This could be true. I would not know though lol

Just Mike 12-23-2005 02:19 AM
Wow! Im really sorry to hear that. I have never dealt with them but I hope you guys can work it out

nyana 12-23-2005 02:19 AM
Still not addressed is why they repeatedly lied about the transfer....

Wasting months of time is extremely costly and unprofessional ....

Really not sure why AMC is so vigorously defending them, your beating a dead horse ...

Suggesting to meet in person is a ludricous idea unless you are willing to pay thousands in flight / accomodation costs and most importantly lost time, which would really make no sense.

Not sure what this "secret" matter is but not disclosing it for protection makes it appear as if its BS. Perhaps you have a legit reason I just don't see it.


Going to be interesting to see the end result .. I would expect that given proper attention to this matter it should be able to be resolved before the weekend.

Good luck to both sides!

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
i was feelin your post, until you said the M word :1orglaugh
I said that because Holly made an old folks home reference.

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theking
blah blah blah
Show me 1 single adult url and i'll epass you 35 bucks

like making a PPS sale.

surfer.

theking 12-23-2005 02:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Holly
You're way too nice.

Tell him to mind his own fucking business or you'll call the nursing home and have them suspend his computer privileges for surfing porn boards.
Pig shit.

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
I said that because Holly made an old folks home reference.
haha sorry my bad, went way over my head... i think i've been looking at this screen too much :1orglaugh

Webby 12-23-2005 02:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theking
As much as I find it to be distasteful...but as you keep begging for my attention...I will respond to your post kid.

I am and have been a webmaster for many, many years...as for being a racist...you are a liar...and if you are not you will post a link to a single racist comment I have ever made. Now feel free to wipe your snotty nose and go stand in a corner...kid.

I can see why folks get attracted to you when you get mad.

I'm getting really horny now :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

RawAlex 12-23-2005 02:21 AM
Of course, you all understand the question of misrepresentation.

What SI told that all the mailing lists were double opts? 350 spam complaints in 2 hours would translate to about 100k pissed off people (the actual number of people who will correctly get a spam complaint to the right host account is actually fairly small... I am guessing about 1/10 of 1%). Most of the people probably just filtered it off or hit delete, and it ended there.

350 spam complaints in 2 hours is a pretty impressive number.

If SI suffered losses as a result of the actions of the client, losses that could not be forseen, or if they were in a position where the boxes were used in a way that would be unacceptable or outside whatever agreement was made, then it is up to the client to cover those costs, IMHO.

HOWEVER: If SI was aware of the client's intention (however reprehensible those intentions are), then SI needs to eat it at both ends.

At the end of the day, these sort of things only serve to remind me that most of the people making money in online porn are scammer, spammers, and jammers.

Alex

lazycash 12-23-2005 02:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
I have no idea who half these people are, I just reply with my thoughts. I have a business to run so I don't have time to surf GFY all day and see who is who.

Guess this explains why you didn't have a problem hiring Nofx.

Holly 12-23-2005 02:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
I said that because Holly made an old folks home reference.
Thank god. I was wondering who the hell watches Matlock any more (besides theking).

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
haha sorry my bad, went way over my head... i think i've been looking at this screen too much :1orglaugh
I've been at my comp for way to many hours today man, it's just fucking wrong.

For the record I was not defending Split as much as I was trying to have a debate from the other side, as it seems to be customary at GFY to bash whoever is down instead of looking at both sides in a level headed way.

I've said both have fucked up, also said Split should do a lot of things.

It's my opinion for the sake of a debate. Maybe next time I will post see sig 23423 times and be done with it.

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lazycash
Guess this explains why you didn't have a problem hiring Nofx.

I did not hire Nofx, I hired Ed.

And since working for us he does not do his shit here anymore. He is busy working and trying to better himself. Anyone should be able to respect someone for trying to better themself.

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Holly
Thank god. I was wondering who the hell watches Matlock any more (besides theking).

hahah, it was just to fitting

AdultMegaCash 12-23-2005 02:27 AM
And on that note respect to split, bdjuf, sonofsam, holly, baddogg, and the few others I have done back and forth with here.

It's time for beer and TV. Anyone is free to contact me on icq at 703 032 for anything at all.

Cheers and Bdjuf good talking to you man, hope you get it worked out, you know how to find me.

split_joel 12-23-2005 02:29 AM
http://www.splitinfinity.com/joel/fu...trocksjoel.jpg we all got heated but enough is enough I am sorry for getting mad, lets all take a picture of me or someone else and make each other laugh

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash
It's my opinion for the sake of a debate. Maybe next time I will post see sig 23423 times and be done with it.
It's nice to debate on shit like this, cause then people see all different aspects of it instead of just the first post :thumbsup

it's not like i would benefit anything by bashing split as i don't own a hosting company, if anything i have something to lose from it since my server is there (i.e. chris drinking a bit too much eggnog and stumbling into the datacentre and seeing my server + hammer hahaha jk :winkwink: )

anyways, i hope this gets resolved, losing that kinda money sucks dick, let alone time too :2 cents:

theking 12-23-2005 02:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
Show me 1 single adult url and i'll epass you 35 bucks

like making a PPS sale.

surfer.
I learned many years ago not to expose one's business when one does not have a need to do so...primarily because of kid's and assholes...much like yourself...but I will provide you with a URL just as soon as you provide a single link to a post where I have made a racist comment. If you are not a liar then this should be easy for you.

SplitInfinity 12-23-2005 02:31 AM
*DRINK*

:-)

Well, im off to bed.
BDJUff, call me tommorrow 619-227-8845

ttyl

RawAlex 12-23-2005 02:31 AM
Let me toss this into the discussion:

http://groups.google.com/group/news....t=0&scoring=d&

Pay particular attention to the stuff around august, 2005.

Alex

Tempest 12-23-2005 02:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitInfinity
Tempest is way biased here.... you dont even know all the facts...
And there are alot that will remain unknown in the public. :-)
Regardless, I didn't really "fuck him" as I have always been willing to
settle the matter. I just have my own issues with the settlement amount
and want it to be fair, thats all there is to it. No lying no BS nothing...
Just what I think is fair... which is why I need to talk to him more so we can
agree on it.
This happened to have caught me when I was in a bad mood and thinking about the number of times I've been ripped off in this business by scammers and "children" playing at being adult business men. I don't know the customers and I don't know you guys. From one of your previous comments, I suspect something else has gone on in the past and you have your detracters. I know nothing about that.

All I know is that some info was posted.. You confirmed that it was 100% correct (but there was more you wouldn't share) and that you fucked him over. Your words, the facts are there.

The bottom line is that it seems you want the entire $5k paid for by them. And so you've dragged it out, made deals and backed out and lied about sending money.. Those are the facts. Those are not the actions of a professional.

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex
Let me toss this into the discussion:

http://groups.google.com/group/news....t=0&scoring=d&

Pay particular attention to the stuff around august, 2005.

Alex
nobody doubted the complaints..

hes still yet to show proof of the fine though.. and even if he did a fine, it's not like he didn't know what bdjuf was going to be doing :2 cents:

sonofsam 12-23-2005 02:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theking
I learned many years ago not to expose one's business when one does not have a need to do so...primarily because of kid's and assholes...much like yourself...but I will provide you with a URL just as soon as you provide a single link to a post where I have made a racist comment. If you are not a liar then this should be easy for you.
Way to back out of posting a url you clown :1orglaugh

get the hell out of here surfer..

and just because you have never came out directly and said "fuck you nigg.ers" doesn't mean you're not racist you jackass... every single day talking about "fuck you foreign trash" is racist enough.

theking 12-23-2005 02:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
Way to back out of posting a url you clown :1orglaugh

get the hell out of here surfer..

and just because you have never came out directly and said "fuck you nigg.ers" doesn't mean you're not racist you jackass... every single day talking about "fuck you foreign trash" is racist enough.
For those that noted it...you have clearly made yourself out to be a liar. You are now dismissed kid.

Tempest 12-23-2005 02:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
nobody doubted the complaints..

hes still yet to show proof of the fine though.. and even if he did a fine, it's not like he didn't know what bdjuf was going to be doing :2 cents:
They'd also have to provide proof that it was bdjuf doing it given bdjuf said they only had 4 servers online and didn't do anything more than update the OS.

buddyjuf 12-23-2005 02:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex
Let me toss this into the discussion:

http://groups.google.com/group/news....t=0&scoring=d&

Pay particular attention to the stuff around august, 2005.

Alex
Yo Alex, checked out the August stuff, and absolutely NONE of them are things I am affiliated with, so even if I was sending out with splits servers, those complaints aren't mine

European Lee 12-23-2005 02:41 AM
Like Whoa....

Theres a lot of 'drama' in here :)

Regards,

Lee

pornstar2pac 12-23-2005 02:41 AM
500000000000


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