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[Labret] · 03-05-2002, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rose
Mr Labret, dont feel sorry for me.
I wasnt talking about history, but presence.
Show me one Free Democratic Muslim Country in the Middle East.

BTW Are you muslim? Michigan has very large Muslim population.

Turkey and Bangladesh are both Muslim and Democratic.

[Labret] · 03-05-2002, 11:06 PM

and No, I am not a Muslim.

I like bacon too much.

KC · 03-05-2002, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Christ, hit yahoo for 10 minutes.

Interesting choice of words.... shouldn't it be:

Allah!, hit yahoo for 10 minutes.

Rose · 03-05-2002, 11:11 PM

I was talking about Middle East, Arab muslims.
Not Turkey

[Labret] · 03-05-2002, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KC

Interesting choice of words.... shouldn't it be:

Allah!, hit yahoo for 10 minutes.

You are still whining? I didnt verbally abuse you enough yesterday?

You are insinuating I am Muslim, or at the very least a Muslim sympathizer? Uh oh, not the dirty M word.

Go back to putting flags on your SUV Super 'Merican.

KC · 03-05-2002, 11:17 PM

LabRat,

I've got an SUV that is so big I pull a 200 gallon gas tank around just to make it around the block...

I love my Denali... I can get it down to 8 MPG If I drive fast enough!

In fact, most of the time when I fill up I just let the gas spray around on the ground.. As long as we have weapons we can just get more!!! woohoo!!

Thank Allah for that black gold!!!

Rose · 03-05-2002, 11:22 PM

Praise to Allah

[Labret] · 03-05-2002, 11:23 PM

I forgot you were with PayCounter.

With the long history of screwing webmasters over a few pennies, I guess I could have assumed you were a Jew.

It all makes sense now.

KC · 03-05-2002, 11:25 PM

hahaha

I'm not Jewish.. but I'm sure Jewish webmasters will really appreciate that... Are you referring to some sort of racist sterotype or soemthing??

Back to the Name Calling... Your prized form of Intellect!!!!!

Rose · 03-05-2002, 11:28 PM

[Labret] · 03-05-2002, 11:31 PM

When did GFY become the new hangout for Netpond has beens?

Smegma · 03-05-2002, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
I forgot you were with PayCounter.

With the long history of screwing webmasters over a few pennies, I guess I could have assumed you were a Jew.

It all makes sense now.

Labrat, Hitler, et al

It is quite obvious that you are unable to contribute an ounce of intelligence to the conversation, I would suggest you pack your bags at fuck off.

Look.. I can understand getting fucked by your father at such a young age has forced you to take an aggressive stance on any male figure of intellectual superiority. I cry for you.. I really do, however, the world needs people like you? I really should send your daddy a 40oz and a washcloth as a ?Thank you? for the damage he caused. Without your inferior intellect it simply would be all that more difficult for people like us to succeed.

Good day.

[Labret] · 03-05-2002, 11:38 PM

*sigh* my dirty dirty painful secret has been revealed.

KC · 03-05-2002, 11:40 PM

Labret,

Netpond??

You've been in the biz since Netpond? What a wise, wise man you must be... I bet you're still using XPICS too aren't you??

You were in diapers when we were making deals in YNOT's parachat chat room in '96.

How do you like them apples, Bitch?!?!

Are you suiting up in your suicide bombing gear yet?? Make sure your mommy gets the staps on tight, we don't want to have any accidents!

Smegma · 03-05-2002, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KC
Labret,

Netpond??

You've been in the biz since Netpond? What a wise, wise man you must be... I bet you're still using XPICS too aren't you??

You were in diapers when we were making deals in YNOT's parachat chat room in '96.

How do you them apples, Bitch?!?!

Are you suiting up in your suicide bombing gear yet?? Make sure your mommy gets the staps on tight, we don't want to have any accidents!

That was pretty good.. 9/10..

Good delivery.. appropriate flame.. we had to dock a point for the two question marks..

[Labret] · 03-05-2002, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KC
Labret,

Netpond??

You've been in the biz since Netpond? What a wise, wise man you must be... I bet you're still using XPICS too aren't you??

You were in diapers when we were making deals in YNOT's parachat chat room in '96.

How do you them apples, Bitch?!?!

Uhm, yeah.

I have been "clearing" half a million a year since 96, not a giant, but then again I havent had to screw webmasters for my income. Yes, stats and proof available on request. I have been around since the beginnings of YNOT, Netpond, BCuz and any other number of worthless boards you stick the ugly mug of yours into. I have even had the misfortune of meeting you I believe at an IA. But I digress. I am about as impressed by you as I am Roses grasp of history.

Quote:

Are you suiting up in your suicide bombing gear yet?? Make sure your mommy gets the staps on tight, we don't want to have any accidents!

Witttty

[Labret] · 03-05-2002, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smegma

That was pretty good.. 9/10..

Good delivery.. appropriate flame.. we had to dock a point for the two question marks..

You run a freehost. Easily amused.

Smegma · 03-05-2002, 11:48 PM

Half a Million my ass..

Bwahahahhhahaaa!!!!!!!!

KC · 03-05-2002, 11:49 PM

Quote:

I have even had the misfortune of meeting you I believe at an IA. But I digress. I am about as impressed by you as I am Roses grasp of history.

I can't imagine why I wouldn't remember you... You must have really made an impression!

Damn, I'll sure try harder to impress you. Waking up in the morning my ultimate goal is to please you and hope that come nightfall, I've received your blessing.

There's always tomorrow, You're what keeps me going.

Smegma · 03-05-2002, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]

You run a freehost. Easily amused.

Yes I do..

Post your tax returns and I'll post mine..

[Labret] · 03-05-2002, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Half a Million my ass..

Bwahahahhhahaaa!!!!!!!!

http://www.detroithardcore.com/stats.jpg

Want my secondary ccbill stats?

You are a nobody with a shitload of worthless traffic. Feck off.

KC · 03-05-2002, 11:54 PM

Quote:

I have been "clearing" half a million a year since 96, not a giant, but then again I havent had to screw webmasters for my income.

Smuggling diamonds for the Taliban pays much better than I thought!

Congrats! on your good fortune..

I'm glad that posting your earnings helps you feel better about yourself. I don't really have the self confidence and self worth issues that would require me to make such a post to a bunch of strangers..

KC · 03-05-2002, 11:56 PM

Quote:

http://www.detroithardcore.com/stats.jpg

I'd spend a little less time posting stats and a bit more time working on those retention numbers... It doesn't look like you can keep a member longer than a month!

KC · 03-05-2002, 11:58 PM

Oh well..

as boneprone says..

"My nuts itch"

I'm going to bed... goodnight

-KC

[Labret] · 03-05-2002, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KC

I'd spend a little less time posting stats and a bit more time working on those retention numbers... It doesn't look like you can keep a member longer than a month!

Riiiight.

You run a counter and your assbuddy runs a freehost, with some illiterate Canadian broad tailing behind.

What a motley fucking crew.

KC · 03-06-2002, 12:02 AM

haha... You've got it all worked out...

I don't know any illiterate Canadians and I don't have any assbuddies... so not sure where you got your information...

You better get some sleep, you don't want to miss that Arafat fundraiser tomorrow morning...

And you really should work on those retention numbers..

Night.

Rose · 03-06-2002, 12:06 AM

No shit I can not stand Detroit, that city is full of idiots like you

[Labret] · 03-06-2002, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by Rose
No shit I can not stand Detroit, that city is full of idiots like you

Yeah, bummer... Detroit needs another illiterate.

Smegma · 03-06-2002, 12:10 AM

ohh..

and by the way.

(click)

I wish I had KC's restraint.. but alas.. I do not.

Rose · 03-06-2002, 12:10 AM

BTW are you sure you are from Detroit and not Dearborn?

Rose · 03-06-2002, 12:13 AM

And still waiting for that Democratic Arab Muslim Country?
Turkey doesnt count.
I am sure it won;t be problem for such a smart person
like you to come up with at least one.

[Labret] · 03-06-2002, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rose
And still waiting for that Democratic Arab Muslim Country?
Turkey doesnt count.
I am sure it won;t be problem for such a smart person
like you to come up with at least one.

Jordan

http://www.jordanembassyus.org/071899001.htm

Why are you so hung up on Democracy? Is every other form of government somehow invalid to you?

Smegma · 03-06-2002, 12:19 AM

This thread is cooked. night

[Labret] · 03-06-2002, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smegma
ohh..

and by the way.

(click)

I wish I had KC's restraint.. but alas.. I do not.

So the bulk of your resources are tied up in securities?

Rose · 03-06-2002, 12:22 AM

I dont care about His Majesty King Abdullah . That's not free country and democracy.
But I agree they are somewhat more civilized , than others
in the region

[Labret] · 03-06-2002, 12:24 AM

Ohhhhh you got me there.

I am off to watch some tube, might I suggest you try some CNN or perhaps the Learning Channel?

Rose · 03-06-2002, 12:27 AM

You must be from Dearborn, and your family propably owns local
7-11 store.
And if you get your education from CNN I rest my case.

bhutocracy · 03-06-2002, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rose
You must be from Dearborn, and your family propably owns local
7-11 store.

so it's an insult to be of middle eastern descent?

the real magoo · 03-06-2002, 01:40 AM

There´s no right or wrong here..all they need is peace, and thats it.

drumsicle · 03-06-2002, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

You know nothing of the history of Islam.

They controlled Jerusalem for centuries and allowed all to worship accordingly and freely.

Come on Labret. They destroyed christian and Jewish holy sites and built mosques on them. Nothing against Islam, just the fact.

drumsicle · 03-06-2002, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
I forgot you were with PayCounter.

With the long history of screwing webmasters over a few pennies, I guess I could have assumed you were a Jew.

It all makes sense now.

Weren't you protesting a few months back that your "anti-zionism" was NOT antisemitism?

Mark · 03-06-2002, 04:19 AM

YouMoron..

Your grasp of facts is amazing..

I am a non-jewish israeli and I have no problems buying land or property in israel. you are confusing non-jewish israelis with non-jewish non-israelis who not surprisingly have limited rights in israel same as I have limited rights in the US or anywhere else that I am not a citizen of..

Israel does not occupy any of lebanon - a fact VERIFIED by the UN and only disputed by those bastions of the truth Hizbollah and the Syrian dictator Assad (son af Assad, the previous Syrian dictator) the great defender of democracy..

Syria got their asses kicked last time they went to war with israel and as a result they lost a little strip of land ('high ground') from where they used to bomb israeli villages for fun and target practice - lifes a bitch when you pick a fight that you can't win..

Palestinians have different color number plates on their cars because they are NOT israeli citizens - I would hazard a guess and say that number plates in the UK bear little resemblance to number plates in the US on account of them being different countries.. how many palestinians do you know that want to be associated with israel anyway?? As a matter of fact there are MANY MANY arabs & muslims with Israeli citizenship who drive cars bought & registered in Israel who naturally have Israeli number plates on account of them being Israeli citizens living in Israel!!

Pathfinder · 03-06-2002, 04:37 AM

I have not read all of the posts in this thread (it is to long), so I may not be presenting anything new.

Israel does not want peace with the Palestinians. Peace means that Palestine will become an independent country. Being an independent country means, economic aid, treaties with other countries, allies, buying weapons of war and building an Army (which they are currently without) buying or producing weapons of mass destruction.

Israel will never allow this to happen, even though our current President has already stated that the Palestinians should be allowed to have an independent country.

drumsicle · 03-06-2002, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark
YouMoron..

Your grasp of facts is amazing..

I am a non-jewish israeli and I have no problems buying land or property in israel. you are confusing non-jewish israelis with non-jewish non-israelis who not surprisingly have limited rights in israel same as I have limited rights in the US or anywhere else that I am not a citizen of..

Israel does not occupy any of lebanon - a fact VERIFIED by the UN and only disputed by those bastions of the truth Hizbollah and the Syrian dictator Assad (son af Assad, the previous Syrian dictator) the great defender of democracy..

Syria got their asses kicked last time they went to war with israel and as a result they lost a little strip of land ('high ground') from where they used to bomb israeli villages for fun and target practice - lifes a bitch when you pick a fight that you can't win..

Palestinians have different color number plates on their cars because they are NOT israeli citizens - I would hazard a guess and say that number plates in the UK bear little resemblance to number plates in the US on account of them being different countries.. how many palestinians do you know that want to be associated with israel anyway?? As a matter of fact there are MANY MANY arabs & muslims with Israeli citizenship who drive cars bought & registered in Israel who naturally have Israeli number plates on account of them being Israeli citizens living in Israel!!

good points! Arabs in the Senate and on the supreme court too. How many Muslim countries can say the same for Jews?

Serge_Oprano · 03-06-2002, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rose
I was talking about Middle East, Arab muslims.
Not Turkey

yes, Rose, turks are NOT arabs...

Serge_Oprano · 03-06-2002, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
I forgot you were with PayCounter.

With the long history of screwing webmasters over a few pennies, I guess I could have assumed you were a Jew.

It all makes sense now.

Labret,
was your antisemitism acquired or you were born with it?

Mark · 03-06-2002, 08:27 AM

Pathfinder..

Israel already offered them an independent state in something like 95% of the territories - they rejected this offer (made by the previous israeli PM Barak along with Clinton) and instead started this current intifada. The offer may not have been perfect, may not have given them everything they wanted but it was a start and thousands of ppl would still be alive now if they had accepted it..

They already have an army - last I heard they had something like 80,000 'police' all armed with kalashnikovs and other weapons obviously essential for 'police work'!

As for weapons of mass destruction - no israel will never allow this, same as the US will never allow Iraq to have them for obvious reasons..

They already have allies and economic aid and all those other things you mention - the Palestinian Authority does/has all this right now but they seem to think that war is better..

As the Ferengi say: war is good for business..

YouMorons · 03-06-2002, 08:54 AM

haha it amazing how if you aren't for Israelis occupation and crime you are a Jew hater. I think there should be no fucking dual citizenship, you are a fucking US citizen or your not, that way you look at the American interest and not some country we pay 3.5 billion dollars.

maybe then jews will look more towards AMERICAS interest and not ISRAELS.(do away with the DUAL citizenship)
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-controlledpress-folder.html

http://www.bghadami.btinternet.co.uk/qana.htm#pictures
http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/

Save that anti-Jew, anti-Semitic bullshit, heard it all before. After seeing the PICS i consider Israel a terrorist state. Most jewish americans who look for the good of american intrest over ISRAELS (a very few) should realize Israel makes them look bad.

Labret If I were you I wouldn't pay them any mind, they are racist towards other races, faith, then call you anti-Semitic.

Remember its OK to be racist long as you don't insult Israel (then your just racist). It is funny how you are a racist hey I am a Christian If I wanted citizenship in ISRAEL would I get approved, not really as if I was a Jew I would in a flash. RACIST ISRAEL ANY.

YouMorons · 03-06-2002, 09:08 AM

_____________________________________________

Mark WROTE:

Israel already offered them an independent state in something like 95% of the territories - they rejected this offer (made by the previous israeli PM Barak along with Clinton) and instead started this current intifada. The offer may not have been perfect, may not have given them everything they wanted but it was a start and thousands of ppl would still be alive now if they had accepted it..

They already have an army - last I heard they had something like 80,000 'police' all armed with kalashnikovs and other weapons obviously essential for 'police work'!

As for weapons of mass destruction - no israel will never allow this, same as the US will never allow Iraq to have them for obvious reasons..

They already have allies and economic aid and all those other things you mention - the Palestinian Authority does/has all this right now but they seem to think that war is better..

As the Ferengi say: war is good for business..
__________________________________________________ __

mark take my house then say you want 5%, think i will give in? you must be nuts. As for any army im thinking they will come sooner or later as one did in lebanon which kicked isreal out, now they do what they want basically, you cant strave off a whole peopel just so you can expand isreal. Hence why the war with lebanaon war is called the vietnam of isreal.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wor...00/1796102.stm

In a petition that has been posted on the internet, the officers and combat soldiers refuse to "continue to fight beyond the 1967 borders in order to dominate, expel, starve and humiliate an entire people."

Pathfinder · 03-06-2002, 10:00 AM

MARK:

Being offered autonomy ("independent state") is far different then being allowed to be an independent country. The current government in Israel will never allow the Palestinians to become an independent country.

Eighty-thousand people armed with small arms and a handful of mortars an army does not make. Planes, attack helicopters, missiles, tanks, artillery, and the ability to train, are some of the things that constitute an Army.

The economic aid they receive is practically nill, compared to the aid an independent country would receive from those that would be willing to supply it.

03-05-2002, 11:17 PM	#306
KC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 1995 Posts: 2,417	LabRat, I've got an SUV that is so big I pull a 200 gallon gas tank around just to make it around the block... I love my Denali... I can get it down to 8 MPG If I drive fast enough! In fact, most of the time when I fill up I just let the gas spray around on the ground.. As long as we have weapons we can just get more!!! woohoo!! Thank Allah for that black gold!!! __________________ Jupiter Hosting, Inc. Vice President, Business Development kc (AT) jupiterhosting.com

03-05-2002, 11:25 PM	#309
KC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 1995 Posts: 2,417	hahaha I'm not Jewish.. but I'm sure Jewish webmasters will really appreciate that... Are you referring to some sort of racist sterotype or soemthing?? Back to the Name Calling... Your prized form of Intellect!!!!! __________________ Jupiter Hosting, Inc. Vice President, Business Development kc (AT) jupiterhosting.com

03-05-2002, 11:40 PM	#314
KC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 1995 Posts: 2,417	Labret, Netpond?? You've been in the biz since Netpond? What a wise, wise man you must be... I bet you're still using XPICS too aren't you?? You were in diapers when we were making deals in YNOT's parachat chat room in '96. How do you like them apples, Bitch?!?! Are you suiting up in your suicide bombing gear yet?? Make sure your mommy gets the staps on tight, we don't want to have any accidents! Last edited by KC; 03-05-2002 at 11:42 PM..

03-05-2002, 11:58 PM	#324
KC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 1995 Posts: 2,417	Oh well.. as boneprone says.. "My nuts itch" I'm going to bed... goodnight -KC __________________ Jupiter Hosting, Inc. Vice President, Business Development kc (AT) jupiterhosting.com

03-06-2002, 12:02 AM	#326
KC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 1995 Posts: 2,417	haha... You've got it all worked out... I don't know any illiterate Canadians and I don't have any assbuddies... so not sure where you got your information... You better get some sleep, you don't want to miss that Arafat fundraiser tomorrow morning... And you really should work on those retention numbers.. Night. __________________ Jupiter Hosting, Inc. Vice President, Business Development kc (AT) jupiterhosting.com

03-05-2002, 11:06 PM	#302
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	and No, I am not a Muslim. I like bacon too much.

03-05-2002, 11:11 PM	#304
Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ON,Canada Posts: 1,456	I was talking about Middle East, Arab muslims. Not Turkey

03-05-2002, 11:22 PM	#307
Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ON,Canada Posts: 1,456	Praise to Allah

03-05-2002, 11:23 PM	#308
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	I forgot you were with PayCounter. With the long history of screwing webmasters over a few pennies, I guess I could have assumed you were a Jew. It all makes sense now.

03-05-2002, 11:28 PM	#310
Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ON,Canada Posts: 1,456	<img src="http://www.nmajh.org/exhibitions/bee/bee04.gif">

03-05-2002, 11:31 PM	#311
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	When did GFY become the new hangout for Netpond has beens?

03-05-2002, 11:38 PM	#313
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	sigh my dirty dirty painful secret has been revealed.

03-05-2002, 11:48 PM	#318
Smegma Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,751	Half a Million my ass.. Bwahahahhhahaaa!!!!!!!!

03-06-2002, 12:06 AM	#327
Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ON,Canada Posts: 1,456	No shit I can not stand Detroit, that city is full of idiots like you

03-06-2002, 12:10 AM	#329
Smegma Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,751	ohh.. and by the way. (click) I wish I had KC's restraint.. but alas.. I do not.

03-06-2002, 12:10 AM	#330
Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ON,Canada Posts: 1,456	BTW are you sure you are from Detroit and not Dearborn?

03-06-2002, 12:13 AM	#331
Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ON,Canada Posts: 1,456	And still waiting for that Democratic Arab Muslim Country? Turkey doesnt count. I am sure it won;t be problem for such a smart person like you to come up with at least one.

03-06-2002, 12:19 AM	#333
Smegma Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,751	This thread is cooked. night

03-06-2002, 12:22 AM	#335
Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ON,Canada Posts: 1,456	I dont care about His Majesty King Abdullah . That's not free country and democracy. But I agree they are somewhat more civilized , than others in the region

03-06-2002, 12:24 AM	#336
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	Ohhhhh you got me there. I am off to watch some tube, might I suggest you try some CNN or perhaps the Learning Channel?

03-06-2002, 12:27 AM	#337
Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ON,Canada Posts: 1,456	You must be from Dearborn, and your family propably owns local 7-11 store. And if you get your education from CNN I rest my case.

03-06-2002, 01:40 AM	#339
the real magoo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: EU Posts: 1,637	There´s no right or wrong here..all they need is peace, and thats it.

03-06-2002, 04:19 AM	#342
Mark Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 600	YouMoron.. Your grasp of facts is amazing.. I am a non-jewish israeli and I have no problems buying land or property in israel. you are confusing non-jewish israelis with non-jewish non-israelis who not surprisingly have limited rights in israel same as I have limited rights in the US or anywhere else that I am not a citizen of.. Israel does not occupy any of lebanon - a fact VERIFIED by the UN and only disputed by those bastions of the truth Hizbollah and the Syrian dictator Assad (son af Assad, the previous Syrian dictator) the great defender of democracy.. Syria got their asses kicked last time they went to war with israel and as a result they lost a little strip of land ('high ground') from where they used to bomb israeli villages for fun and target practice - lifes a bitch when you pick a fight that you can't win.. Palestinians have different color number plates on their cars because they are NOT israeli citizens - I would hazard a guess and say that number plates in the UK bear little resemblance to number plates in the US on account of them being different countries.. how many palestinians do you know that want to be associated with israel anyway?? As a matter of fact there are MANY MANY arabs & muslims with Israeli citizenship who drive cars bought & registered in Israel who naturally have Israeli number plates on account of them being Israeli citizens living in Israel!!

03-06-2002, 04:37 AM	#343
Pathfinder theking of trailer parks Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tehachapi, California Posts: 2,277	I have not read all of the posts in this thread (it is to long), so I may not be presenting anything new. Israel does not want peace with the Palestinians. Peace means that Palestine will become an independent country. Being an independent country means, economic aid, treaties with other countries, allies, buying weapons of war and building an Army (which they are currently without) buying or producing weapons of mass destruction. Israel will never allow this to happen, even though our current President has already stated that the Palestinians should be allowed to have an independent country.

03-06-2002, 08:27 AM	#347
Mark Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 600	Pathfinder.. Israel already offered them an independent state in something like 95% of the territories - they rejected this offer (made by the previous israeli PM Barak along with Clinton) and instead started this current intifada. The offer may not have been perfect, may not have given them everything they wanted but it was a start and thousands of ppl would still be alive now if they had accepted it.. They already have an army - last I heard they had something like 80,000 'police' all armed with kalashnikovs and other weapons obviously essential for 'police work'! As for weapons of mass destruction - no israel will never allow this, same as the US will never allow Iraq to have them for obvious reasons.. They already have allies and economic aid and all those other things you mention - the Palestinian Authority does/has all this right now but they seem to think that war is better.. As the Ferengi say: war is good for business..

03-06-2002, 08:54 AM	#348
YouMorons Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 31	haha it amazing how if you aren't for Israelis occupation and crime you are a Jew hater. I think there should be no fucking dual citizenship, you are a fucking US citizen or your not, that way you look at the American interest and not some country we pay 3.5 billion dollars. maybe then jews will look more towards AMERICAS interest and not ISRAELS.(do away with the DUAL citizenship) http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-controlledpress-folder.html http://www.bghadami.btinternet.co.uk/qana.htm#pictures http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/ Save that anti-Jew, anti-Semitic bullshit, heard it all before. After seeing the PICS i consider Israel a terrorist state. Most jewish americans who look for the good of american intrest over ISRAELS (a very few) should realize Israel makes them look bad. Labret If I were you I wouldn't pay them any mind, they are racist towards other races, faith, then call you anti-Semitic. Remember its OK to be racist long as you don't insult Israel (then your just racist). It is funny how you are a racist hey I am a Christian If I wanted citizenship in ISRAEL would I get approved, not really as if I was a Jew I would in a flash. RACIST ISRAEL ANY. __________________ Think before you talk, know the facts. Last edited by YouMorons; 03-06-2002 at 09:11 AM..

03-06-2002, 09:08 AM	#349
YouMorons Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 31	_____________________________________________ Mark WROTE: Israel already offered them an independent state in something like 95% of the territories - they rejected this offer (made by the previous israeli PM Barak along with Clinton) and instead started this current intifada. The offer may not have been perfect, may not have given them everything they wanted but it was a start and thousands of ppl would still be alive now if they had accepted it.. They already have an army - last I heard they had something like 80,000 'police' all armed with kalashnikovs and other weapons obviously essential for 'police work'! As for weapons of mass destruction - no israel will never allow this, same as the US will never allow Iraq to have them for obvious reasons.. They already have allies and economic aid and all those other things you mention - the Palestinian Authority does/has all this right now but they seem to think that war is better.. As the Ferengi say: war is good for business.. __________________________________________________ __ mark take my house then say you want 5%, think i will give in? you must be nuts. As for any army im thinking they will come sooner or later as one did in lebanon which kicked isreal out, now they do what they want basically, you cant strave off a whole peopel just so you can expand isreal. Hence why the war with lebanaon war is called the vietnam of isreal. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wor...00/1796102.stm In a petition that has been posted on the internet, the officers and combat soldiers refuse to "continue to fight beyond the 1967 borders in order to dominate, expel, starve and humiliate an entire people." __________________ Think before you talk, know the facts.

03-06-2002, 10:00 AM	#350
Pathfinder theking of trailer parks Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tehachapi, California Posts: 2,277	MARK: Being offered autonomy ("independent state") is far different then being allowed to be an independent country. The current government in Israel will never allow the Palestinians to become an independent country. Eighty-thousand people armed with small arms and a handful of mortars an army does not make. Planes, attack helicopters, missiles, tanks, artillery, and the ability to train, are some of the things that constitute an Army. The economic aid they receive is practically nill, compared to the aid an independent country would receive from those that would be willing to supply it.