Smegma

So.. basically anyone who speaks out against anything Jewish or Israeli are anti-Semitic racist German Nazi?s.

Nice? do you have a clue that intelligent people see right through those types of comments?

Usually, a comment like yours is the last line of defense because you?re unable to make a coherent valid argument in support of Israeli / Jewish action. This goes for anyone else who calls anyone speaking out against Israel a racist.

Next time, try rubbing your two brain cells together and formulate an intelligent argument.

Clubber

Where is the site about Jews making matza from christian boy's blood?

axxxis

Anyone who is against israel here, you really need to be beaten with a clue-bat. The PLO, Fatah (arafat's group) , Islamic Jihad, and countless other groups in israel aren't all separate groups, they are working together, and not just against israel, they are part of the same group as al quida, and countless other international groups causing trouble all over the world. You would think after September 11 stupid fucks like you would realize that israel is putting up with the EXACT SAME problem as we are for a long time. Israel has no problem living with anyone, when they are attacked, they fight back. They happen to be right in the middle of a hostile region so are attacked more, so they retaliate more. While not all muslim people are bad, some of you need to read a copy of the Koran. Quote: "Do not take Jews or Christians for friends, they are friends unto eachother" Most muslims dont read the koran same as most christians don't read the bible. Everyone assumes that since the bible is written with good intentions that obviously the Koran must be too. You hear these spinster arab leaders on CNN saying "islam is a religion of peace, islam means peace" and you go, "well gee --- they arent bad". get a fucking clue.

Yes, palestenian kids got killed, they got in the way. Shit happens, you don't think we killed any Afghani kids since Sep11? The israelis attack the terrorists, and sometimes innocents get in the way. The difference is, the palestenians attack israeli innocents, and sometimes soldiers get in the way.

BukWeeD

Yes axxxis,

It is true that the Palestinians are cooperating with Al Quida.
For example, the type of explosive that was used to blow up the Israerli "Merkava" tank was the same special type that was found inside the shoe bomber's shoes.

Many of Bin Laden's men are Palestinians, the man who's intended to replace him if he's killed is a Palestinian as well.

Hizbullah is operating from within the PA and acts the link between Al Quida and the Palestinians .

Dozens of Al Quida terrorists (including some of their top leaders) have escaped Afghanistan and found safe-haven in Lebanon under the protection of Hizbullah.

Iran supports Hizbullah and Al Quida, many which have escaped Afghanistan found safe-haven there as well.

Israeli security forces have arrested Palestinians who confessed that they were trained in Iraq in terror techniques.

and the list goes on...

B.

Mark

Wow.. I'm really impressed with the ignorance expressed here..

YouMorons.. you should find out what your 'tax dollars' are really used for - who really gets them.. a hint - it gets spent on US made weapons along with the billions that are also 'given' to egypt.. that would be an ARAB state not a Jewish state in case you were confused about that! Your hatred is so obviously clouding your judgment.. next you'll be saying the holocaust never happened..


ronenjeru - your views and statements are so idiotic & extreme I'm beginning to wonder if you really are Israeli! If so your words are what cause ppl to side against israel.. the media should not be destroyed, it should be used to tell the world what arafat and his cronies are really like, what their agenda really is.. the PA is unfortunately much better at PR and seems to win the media war no matter what atrocities they commit..

"Israelis are always right and the Palestinians are always wrong"
Man you are either really dumb or deliberating baiting..


COMPROMISE - that is the key word here.. arafat is incapable of it as has been shown by his rejecting of baraks peace offers.. there could have been a palestinain state now - for the first time!

Sharon has proven himself to be as bad as most sane ppl expected him to be.. he has one answer to everything which is to hit back with bigger bombs but he always hits the wrong target.. its true that you fight fire with fire but he always fucks up.. smart bombs are only as smart as the guy calling the shots..

Hizbollah are terrorists of the bin laden school.. not soldiers, not freedom fighters, in fact barely human.. israel pulled out of lebanon to the UN agreed international border and still they attack israel..

Israel is not at war yet, israel is merely defending itself albeit not too successfully so far.. when israel does go to war the world (in particular the palestinian leadership) will know it.. the proverbial shit will hit the fan!

France.. well they don't exactly have a great record but anyway with 6million+ muslims in the country its no wonder they always take the arab side against israel.. ever heard of 'the enemy within' or 'sleeping giants' ?? No israeli will lose any sleep over Frances position/views on the middle east situation..

More palestinains have been killed in this intifada - of course! Israel has vastly superior weaponry and the simple act of self defense (even by a single well armed soldier) can cause many fatalities among those attacking.. most palestinian dead were terrorists or civilians being used as human shields by the terrorists.. most israeli dead are civilians a long way from any battles or demonstrations.

Arafat was, is and always will be a terrorist.. he is cut from the same cloth as uncle saddam, he has more blood on his hands than you can imagine and much of it is american blood.. who amongst the palestinians will oppose him? Let me put it this way.. who wants to die?!

Israel was an economic and hi-tech superpower in the middle east, something that was already starting to benefit palestinians in the form of foreign investment, joint ventures, education, jobs, tourism etc. and it has all been thrown away.. most sane palestinians who can afford it have left the country again leaving only the poor and the terrorists that feed on them..

The palestinians have been royally fucked in the ASS by arafat and his cronies, its a shame they don't seem to see it yet..

I only hope sharon does not play into arafats hands..

YouMorons

BukWeeD please do your research, you are talking out of your ass. I bet rose and ronenjeru are jewish, thats why they think anyone that talks and doesnt take the side of the jews are Anti-Semitic(Guess what i got jewish friends). Plestinians want there land to the 1967 borders, what does Israel want? ronenjeru if it wasn't for our weapons that we gave you wouldn't have won the 1967 war so don't tell me we benefit from you, you benefit from us.


http://www.btselem.org/
"The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories"

Lets see even Israeli's human rights groups have different things to say then the gov't (they must be Anti-Semitic also) right?.

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BukWeeD

What part exactly didn't you understand YouMorons ?

Up till now it's you who's not aware of the actual facts.
For example the reasons for Israel's invasion into Lebanon which I specified, the kidnapping of the Israeli soldiers...

To answer your question "what does Israel want ?" :
Well, simple and clear - to live in peace and security, no more, no less.
Do you hear any other requests being made by Israeli officials ??
Listen to what they're saying : stop the terror so we can sit down and negotiate !!
Is that too much to ask if the other side is really after peace ??

Look at the peace agreements between Israel and Jordan/Egypt.
Israel has given back every single inch of land back to it's rightful owners, all it took was words, no terror !

Again you seem to be missing the facts by saying that all the Palestinians want is an independent state in the 1967 borders.......Israel had already offered that during Oslo but Arafat refused !!
Why you ask ??
Because he wants Israel for himself and he plans on doing that by using terror, mass terror that he hopes will eventually drive the Jews away from the middle-east.

The evil, vicious man that he is !

B.

[Labret]

Yeah, that pretty evil.

I know if someone took over my backyard and started abusing me with the aid of their much larger friends, I would just sit back and take it.

Nah, not really. I would be blowing you stupid cocksuckers up as well.

Israel is reaping what it has sown.

BukWeeD

Do some research Labret, read some history, you can start with the Bible and you'll find who this "backyard" actually belongs to.

I'm not going to start a flame war here so i'll just say you should consider your choice of words man, people might actually listen to you if you do...

B.

KC

I thought the Bible was supposed to be Fictional reading???? ;)

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One other thought... the Native American Indians occupied present day United States long before the US was formed and pushed them out.

Do you think we'd ever allow Native Americans to occupy Washington D.C. and call it their religious capital?

The issue goes much deeper than this, but simply saying "read the Bible, it says this... or that.." Doesn't really apply to present day issues.

YouMorons

Next thing you know you will say George Washington was a terrorist because we fought for independence from the British.

Israel is an apartheid state, why is that? So much for true freedom.

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[Labret]

Since when is the bible considered a factual historical document?

Oh thats nice, your ancestors write a book claiming a piece of land? How about I write a book and go shoot the people in the face who now live in the house that I used to live in. Why not, I have a book that says its mine. Idiot.

If it was not for Nato, you would not even have a country. If it was not for the support of the US, the Arabs would be busy wiping your asses off the planet.

And I sincerely hope they do. I hope one of the suitcase nukes ends up in Jerusalem and you stupid cocksuckers mutually annihilate each other.

The only drawback to that scenario would be the loss of religous monuments. Thats it.

axxxis

Labret: you are absolutely right, and the same arabs shold bring a few suitcase nukes to the US and use them too, as american's are fighting innocent people in afghanistan by your rules too. At most 1% of the people killed were directly involved in Sep11, and the rest, well, we are just terrorizing them for no reason. So a few suitcase nukes in the US, and no loss here since there aren't any religious monuments. Goddamn you are stupid.

Smegma

Do you work for the CIA? Did you go and count the bodys, do the research on who they had dinner with?

If you going to post a remark like that, you better back it up!

" we are just terrorizing them" ??

With all do respect, I think the Taliban were doing a much better job than we are in terrorizing the afgan people.

Sometimes you have to take a step back to take two steps forward.

[Labret]

I bet you are actually stupid enough to believe that.

Danny_C

Shit happens? I guess when the planes hit the WTC... well, innocent people died - shit happens. I guess when we bombed Hiroshima... well, a few innocent people got in the way. Oh well, shit happens. I guess when we enforced sanctions that have resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqi children... well, they were in the way. Shit happens.

I'm not saying some sort of military action isn't necessary at times (including now). I'm not saying we can ever guarantee innocent blood won't be spilled. But to say "Shit happens!" is just inhuman. I can't believe somebody could be that nonchalant about the deaths of children. I sure as hell hope Bush doesn't have that attitude. "The terrorists have kids standing in front of them? Go ahead and drop that bomb. Shit happens." Unfortunately, I think the bomb would get dropped and the White House PR machine would clean up the mess.

You're right... Afghani children have died since Sept. 11. Maybe instead of saying "Shit happens", we should show a little compassion for the people we call "consequences".

Danny_C

I'm sure glad I'm not heartless... although I guess life must be easier that way.

YouMorons

We the Untied States have the right to go after Afghanistan we aren't occupying power so what happened Sept, 11 was a terrorist act. Israel is an occupying power who occupies Palestinians land, I don't know many people who would not fight for there land, the 9/11 attacks are totally different then the ones that happen in Israel, don't try to use our loss as a political gain to do your dirty work. Get out of their land then complain.



I also noticed that you are accused of being anti-Semitic if you don't agree with their ideas. Seems like a new trend, hey ether you agree with us or you are just racist that is pure bull crap.

Try valid arguments instead.

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I am sick of everyone !

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axxxis

Argh, hello, I don't believe any of that, I was saying that was similar to Labret's argument. Didn't you read my previous post?

ronenjeru

Ok it goes like that: When we (the Israelis) at war, there should be no criticism of us. What do I mean no criticism? Anything that might make us vulnerable.


The main thing, and that's obvious from the kind of criticism, is that people like youmorons and alike dont criticise us for a constructive aim, but to get us weakened!
That's what behind those Anti-semite youmorons, and yes you're definitely antisemite. The fact that you cover it in something that looks anti-israeliness doesnt make your substance go away.



Yes I'm am dumm, so is all Israeli society. Maybe if we did have appartheid so many Israelis wouldnt die. Maybe if we did some vicious things like those the Hindus do against the Muslims, or the Palestinians do to us, would make them stop their viciousness.

Oh and about all the facts collected here by all those anti-semites who use Israeli left media, it's like using Der sturmer and saying: look we have evidence that the six million Jews suicided and then blamed the Nazis, poor Nazis.

Why do I even bother? because there r dosens of little wars around the world currently with even more casualties but there are some who cant live with the thought that Israel is kicking back and not letting its enemies off the hook.

YAMUT ARAFAT UMAHER, VEYIKAVER YAKHAD IM NASSER!!!!

KC

Ronenjuru,

Keep fighting the good fight man.. Don't listen to the criticism of the jackasses in here. These Palestinians will eventually realize that cause and effect is killing their people, not the Israeli's.

Every time they strap bombs to women and children and send them into Israeli shopping malls and dance clubs... They will get the shit kicked out of them by the Israeli Armed Forces.

This zero tolerance policy the Israeli's have now may not work today... it may not work tomorrow, but it will work eventually.

The US would not have taken that kind of shit for nearly as long. Look at September 11th.. Before September 11, these terrorist attacks happened in other countries... in lands far far away.

As an American citizen, September 11th caught us completely off guard. Our country was kicked in the nuts while we were looking in the other direction. I guarantee, any and all terrorist attacks on US soil or US interests will be responded to with an increasing severity.

-KC

Serge_Oprano

let me know if you read Arabic and I'll post you the URL

[Labret]

You. Are an idiot.

ronenjeru

look who's talking. Maybe your anal period still possesses u, or u'r just high.

YAVKHUSH KATAN SHEKMOTKHA!!!

YAMUT ARAFAT UMAHER, VEYIKAVER YAKHAD IM NASSER!!!!!!!

[Labret]

Yes, my anal period still possesses me.

Shouldnt you be out killing Palestinian children who throw stones instead of murdering english on a message board?

FADE19

[Labret] let him go....he is still trying to figure out a way he can strap on dynamite and blow up the board...

aviv

You can all go and fuck yourself! on 2 day's ago 10 poeple died by
an arbic. 7 of them from one fammily and 2 of them are 2 years old...

[Labret]

5 Palestinian children died today.



That will teach those dirty Palestinian bastards to fight for their homeland. Israelis loooove to kill children. And you wonder why they strap bombs to their asses?

[Labret]

If he was an Arab that would be true.

But since he is an Israeli, he is most likely looking to blow up my wife and kids.

Rose

Lots of Arafat lovers here.

When I saw him giving blood for Sept.11, victims on TV
I almost puked

FADE19

They are all Jaw-wa's in the end

YouMorons

World - AP
16 Palestinians Killed by Israeli Fire
Mon Mar 4,10:56 AM ET



Abu Kweik's wife had just picked up her children ? ages 8, 14 and 17 ? from school and was driving in a well-to-do neighborhood when the vehicle was hit and all four were killed. In the second car, two youngsters ages 4 and 16 were killed.

Abu Kweik said he would avenge his family.

"I swear to God they (the Israelis) will pay a very high price for this crime," he said, accompanied by hundreds of mourners after viewing the bodies at Ramallah Hospital. "We will continue our resistance until it's the end of the last (Israeli) soldier on our lands."

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Ya, blow my family and see how nice I am, on another note why do we give 6 billion a year to Israel, don't we have enough poor people we should be feeding in the U.S, couldn't they use the money?




The latest proposal that President Arafat was offered required him to give up another 12% of the land. Turn over all control of the air space, water rights and boarder control to Israel.

The effect would be for Palestine to a State within Israel, as the Ohio is winthin the U.S.

what does Israel want again? to occupy more land and expand.

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[Labret]

Wrong. Typical lefty, its either one side or the other right?

I know damn well that the average Palestinian would love nothing more than to put a bullet in my American face.

Do I blame him? No. My tax dollars have provided the financing necessary to help Israel kill thousands of his people and take over his land. Make sense?

Thumbelina

I like pancakes.........

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ronenjeru

I can do both!



YAMUT ARAFAT UMAHER, VEYIKAVER YAKHAD IM NASSER!!!

FADE19

That's FlapJacks dear...

Rose

Israel should finish them once for all.
They wanna be martyrs? Right?
Help them meet their Allah.

P.S. How long would US tolerate terrorist groups attacks from lets say Canada? You are from Michigan right?
How would you like Canadian terrorists(just a joke) sneaking over border
and blowing up your family and friends. Canada can also claim that you hold our teritory, that we lost in the war 200 years ago.

ronenjeru

aCCORDING TO WHAT HAS BEEN SAID HERE, IT'S OK FOR ISRAELIS TO KILL EUROPEANS, CAUSE THEIR TAXES HAVE FINANCED TERROR ATTACKS ON ISRAELIS.


MMMM, SOUNDS INTERESTING....


YAMUT ARAFAT UMAHER, VEYIKAVER YAKHAD IM NASSER!!!!!!!!!!

Thumbelina

Sorry Fade 19......I speak no good englese

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FADE19

two words for ya Rose...

Jihad-A!!!

FADE19

no you where right Thumbelina....it is a joke folks have going around here...you will see it in post here and there...

Thumbelina

I know also, Fade 19.........just playing around........thanks Do you posses the flapjacks?

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ronenjeru

AND WE HAVE ONE SENTENCE TO U FADE 19:


KULL KALB BIJI YOMO!


YAMUT ARAFAT UMAHER, VEYIKAVER YAKHAD IM NASSER!!!!!

[Labret]

What? Are you saying the Israelis should commit genocide? Isnt that why their country was founded? Because others had try to do the same to them? You are the worst kind of lefty. A hypocrite lefty.

I think you are misunderstanding. There is a huge difference between being willing to be a martyr and actually wanting to become one.

And the psychological impact of suicide bombings is profound. I would be scared shitless if I lived in Israel right now. Its their method, its all they have. Its not like they can match the Zionists tank to tank, gun to gun. I would love to see them each duke it out with matched weapons.

And you had managed to disarm us in the process?

I dont think it is a valid comparison as we can defend ourselves. I wouldnt have to strap a bomb to my ass and sneak it into Toronto. If it was my only alternative? Perhaps. I would rather slit Canadian throat than kill myself in the process... but that would be a personal preference. I am sure there would be some Americans willing to blow themselves up.

You work with what you have. The technological gap between the Israelis and the Palestinians is absurd.



"Their" Allah?

Do you consider yourself a Christian by chance?

FADE19

Ya right back at ya..ronenjeru
Abuda-buda-buda! (Translation--the towel on my head, the dress I wear--and my underwear....are all inter-changeable)

ronenjeru

Genocide? that's what the Palestinians are trying to do to us.


Well, we already had one suicide rabbi, I think we can make a new Jewish underground to match their foolish game of bombs.

Since I know now a lot of people who lost their beloved ones, I think seeing a new group established for this purpose is imminent.

Onece the we feel the end approaches, we would start becoming brutally violent.

Yes we have a lot of weapons, but what good is it when we cant use it? So we have to use it sooner or later on children, that might grow to be a suicide bomber. The less children they have the less suicide bombers they have.


Where there are no Arabs, there's no Terror!!!!


YAMUT ARAFAT UMAHER VEYIKAVER YAKHAD IM NASSER!!!!!!

FADE19

"Yes we have a lot of weapons, but what good is it when we cant use it? So we have to use it sooner or later on children, that might grow to be a suicide bomber. The less children they have the less suicide bombers they have."

Ignorance is BLISS!

[Labret]

Awesome. Thank you for proving my point.