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Old 09-11-2005, 08:31 PM   #1
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Need a full site designed - how much and only the serious need apply.

States it all. I need it alll. From conception to going live.
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good luck babe. There are some excellent designers in this industry.
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States it all. I need it alll. From conception to going live.
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It would help if you state what kind of site you need, for example:

- Free site with galleries
- Pay site with 3 page tour and 20 hosted galleries
- TGP with thumbs
- MPG text listing

etc...
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good luck babe. There are some excellent designers in this industry.
Then why can't I find any?

I get similar problems over and over again.

1. I have 2 sites. Neither has a backend and the webmonster disappeard. (Several months no contact.) I have the files.

2. They claim to be able to do something and they can't. (I've got one guy who creates one page and trys to borrow $50 bucks. - Finish your job and I'll pay you!)

3. They have no concept of how they are going to drive traffic. (They just want to handle the updates and payment processing - which I pay them for.)

4. They complain about our concepts. They complain about content. They complain about what we do that isn't web-related. They just complain.

5. No matter how much content we create it is never enough. We have boxes of stuff we haven't touched. But they can't find usuable stuff.

Ok,

I'm just ranting now. I want to meet a professional that does what they claim they can do. And I'm willing to pay for it and have total control.
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It would help if you state what kind of site you need, for example:

- Free site with galleries
- Pay site with 3 page tour and 20 hosted galleries
- TGP with thumbs
- MPG text listing

etc...
I really do apologize for being a bitch or sounding negative. I'm just going to be blunt and explain where I am at in the most simplistic terms I can think of.

After reading your post it appears to be what I call, "car salesman or cell phone salesman" talk.

So I'm going to tell you what I tell the salesguy when I bought my phone. "I don't care what it's features are as long as it does the job of a telephone."

I need a site that earns money. Complete from start to finish. Look at Gingerlynn.com or Nickmanning.com for examples.
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I did check it out.
I did try to make contact.
In my message I gave examples of what I want.
I asked for a bottom line price.

I have yet to recieve a response.
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www.webinc.com does some excellent work

don't try and go cheap and you won't have the troubles you mentioned....go with a professional company with a proven track record
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I really do apologize for being a bitch or sounding negative. I'm just going to be blunt and explain where I am at in the most simplistic terms I can think of.

After reading your post it appears to be what I call, "car salesman or cell phone salesman" talk.

So I'm going to tell you what I tell the salesguy when I bought my phone. "I don't care what it's features are as long as it does the job of a telephone."

I need a site that earns money. Complete from start to finish. Look at Gingerlynn.com or Nickmanning.com for examples.

No problem; I can help.


This is what I will build for you:

Pay site:

* Video tour with at least 4 videos (1 megabyte each I suggest)
* Each video branded with your URL(gets the bookmark sales )
* 2 additional tour pages with sample pics(you don't need 5 page tours)
* Build your member content pages that are surfer friendly
* Aquire free feeds to enhance your content
* suggest paid feeds that retain members
* Set up your credit card processing(ccbill or verotel)
* Set up your affiliate webmaster program
* build 20 hosted galleries
* provide a hosted gallery script so your affiliates can use them
* supply "upsales" content inside the members area(you make more money)
* Help you submit to big TGPs to get traffic to your site
* Listen to what you want and get the job done

** And more!

I guarantee my work and will get you site in the profit zone.
If you don't like something then I will fix it until you like it.

Total price: $1500.00
* You will also have to pay a fee of about $750 to ccbill to process visa or you can use Verotel Tickest club and accept visa without a fee. I suggest paying the fee to ccbill and using them.

email me : webmaster at econfirmpro.com
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Old 09-12-2005, 01:41 AM   #14
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Did you send an email or ICQ message? I just checked both but didnt received any messages. Anyway, if you can resend your message,
our email is [email protected]
and ICQ# 223-472-449

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I did check it out.
I did try to make contact.
In my message I gave examples of what I want.
I asked for a bottom line price.

I have yet to recieve a response.
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No problem; I can help.


This is what I will build for you:

Pay site:

* Video tour with at least 4 videos (1 megabyte each I suggest)
* Each video branded with your URL(gets the bookmark sales )
* 2 additional tour pages with sample pics(you don't need 5 page tours)
* Build your member content pages that are surfer friendly
* Aquire free feeds to enhance your content
* suggest paid feeds that retain members
* Set up your credit card processing(ccbill or verotel)
* Set up your affiliate webmaster program
* build 20 hosted galleries
* provide a hosted gallery script so your affiliates can use them
* supply "upsales" content inside the members area(you make more money)
* Help you submit to big TGPs to get traffic to your site
* Listen to what you want and get the job done

** And more!

I guarantee my work and will get you site in the profit zone.
If you don't like something then I will fix it until you like it.

Total price: $1500.00
* You will also have to pay a fee of about $750 to ccbill to process visa or you can use Verotel Tickest club and accept visa without a fee. I suggest paying the fee to ccbill and using them.

email me : webmaster at econfirmpro.com
Honey,
You are the first person to talk my language. Ok, I will contact you later. Thank you for the price and breaking it down in simple english for me.

Bisous
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PS. Do you have Skype? Or MSN?
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I need a site that earns money. Complete from start to finish.

I think what you should be looking for is someone who knows this business before you attempt to make purchases of a design or any of the "cell phone salesman" items. Save yourself some time, money, and frustration and find someone experienced to consult you.

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PS. Do you have Skype? Or MSN?
Sorry I don't have those or icq.
If you need a phone contact I will email that to you if you request.
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Then why can't I find any?

I get similar problems over and over again.

1. I have 2 sites. Neither has a backend and the webmonster disappeard. (Several months no contact.) I have the files.

2. They claim to be able to do something and they can't. (I've got one guy who creates one page and trys to borrow $50 bucks. - Finish your job and I'll pay you!)

3. They have no concept of how they are going to drive traffic. (They just want to handle the updates and payment processing - which I pay them for.)

4. They complain about our concepts. They complain about content. They complain about what we do that isn't web-related. They just complain.

5. No matter how much content we create it is never enough. We have boxes of stuff we haven't touched. But they can't find usuable stuff.

Ok,

I'm just ranting now. I want to meet a professional that does what they claim they can do. And I'm willing to pay for it and have total control.

oh so you want

a designer
b a webmaster
c a script writer
d a progammer/database dude
e a person who can drive traffic
f a marketer

all in one person?

dude you need to consult with a person whos in this business before jumping in the game.

and after reading your reply

After reading your post it appears to be what I call, "car salesman or cell phone salesman" talk.

So I'm going to tell you what I tell the salesguy when I bought my phone. "I don't care what it's features are as long as it does the job of a telephone."


it aint a wonder why you cant find anyone worth a shit because anyone thats worth a shit isnt going to work with that type of bussiness acumen

good luck.
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You get what you pay for.

I'm planning to hire webinc in the coming week or so. I expect to pay more for the design alone than you've been quoted for everything and the kitchen sink here.
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You are the first person to talk my language. Ok, I will contact you later. Thank you for the price and breaking it down in simple english for me.

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PS. Do you have Skype? Or MSN?
Why would you like it if someone is trying to profit off you from other means then design? I am sure there are ref codes to sign up under for all upsells and billing. If you woul dlike the same services contact us. We will complete your site with in 2 days. We have 23 designers. As for processing. I can get you in the 6% range not 14%. Upsells. I will set up the cross sells with out our company making a dime from them.
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oh so you want

a designer
b a webmaster
c a script writer
d a progammer/database dude
e a person who can drive traffic
f a marketer

all in one person?
She stated from the start that she needed it all.
She never stated that one person had to do it all, but I can do all that and I will if she hires me.
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You get what you pay for.
That is often true; but no need to pay for a H2 Hummer when you just need a ride to work.

This is her first site so she should not pay $5000 to put it up because great paysites are not "built" they are "rebuilt". After she gets this site up and running she will discover new ideas that she wants incorporated into the site and if she's blown her budget on a fucking tour that doesn't convert then she's thru. Better to build a site for cheap that works and then test the tour and build better tours as she goes. That's how I did it with my pay sites.

I rebuilt interracialtoons.com three times already and I am going to rebuild it again in a few weeks with brand new content.

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That is often true; but no need to pay for a H2 Hummer when you just need a ride to work.

This is her first site so she should not pay $5000 to put it up because great paysites are not "built" they are "rebuilt". After she gets this site up and running she will discover new ideas that she wants incorporated into the site and if she's blown her budget on a fucking tour that doesn't convert then she's thru. Better to build a site for cheap that works and then test the tour and build better tours as she goes. That's how I did it with my pay sites.

I rebuilt interracialtoons.com three times already and I am going to rebuild it again in a few weeks with brand new content.
Personally we only drive used Chevys in our house. As long as a car does it's job is all I'm concerned about.

Ok,
I've sent you an email and I'm waiting for your response. There is no promises because I'm going to examine everyone's stuff and give fair consideration.

But you do speak our language and thats a big bonus.

Bisous
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1500 for all that? Id go with that offer in 1 sec. You wont find anyone doing that all for 1500, you wouldnt even get a decent design for all of that for 1500.
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don't try and go cheap and you won't have the troubles you mentioned....go with a professional company with a proven track record
Thank you

We charge $1499 for the basic three page tour with a warning and join page and some banners thrown in. No, it isn't the cheapest but they convert or we wouldn't have the repeat customers that we do. Also, people should keep in mind that other things like customer service - before and AFTER the sale - are important too.
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I'm planning to hire webinc in the coming week or so. I expect to pay more for the design alone than you've been quoted for everything and the kitchen sink here.
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1500 for all that? Id go with that offer in 1 sec. You wont find anyone doing that all for 1500, you wouldnt even get a decent design for all of that for 1500.
I was offered by one person 175 and it would be up and functional within a week.

And thats the reason why I'm taking all the details.

I don't mind spending the money. But I've spent alot in the past and have NOTHING to show for it.

So like I've said before. I'm not looking for anything fancy. I just want it to do it's job. If it works, we build on the foundation.
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Thank you

We charge $1499 for the basic three page tour with a warning and join page and some banners thrown in. No, it isn't the cheapest but they convert or we wouldn't have the repeat customers that we do. Also, people should keep in mind that other things like customer service - before and AFTER the sale - are important too.
exactly. Its 1500 but youll get a converting design. Which is a lot more important then a get-it-all-in-one price of 1500.

My 2 cents : spend the money on the design and content and go from there. Noones gonna signup if your sitecontent or design sucks. No matter how gorgeous your members is. And Webinc is a good way to start
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I was offered by one person 175 and it would be up and functional within a week.

And thats the reason why I'm taking all the details.

I don't mind spending the money. But I've spent alot in the past and have NOTHING to show for it.

So like I've said before. I'm not looking for anything fancy. I just want it to do it's job. If it works, we build on the foundation.
Oh Im sure there are plenty of 15yo who do it for 175. Believe me 175 brings nothing. You dont wanna work with ppl who have no clue. Itll be the beginning of hell and back. Like I said spend cash if you wanna start off seriously. Do a search here for ppl who can help, read the feedback.

And if you dont wanna do that, hire someone to do that. But seriously anyone offering this all including managing under 5k isnt for real.
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* Video tour with at least 4 videos (1 megabyte each I suggest) - design incl 5 pages 2k
* Each video branded with your URL(gets the bookmark sales ) - $100
* 2 additional tour pages with sample pics(you don't need 5 page tours) - incl
* Build your member content pages that are surfer friendly - small cms $500
* Aquire free feeds to enhance your content - free
* suggest paid feeds that retain members - free
* Set up your credit card processing(ccbill or verotel) - 2 days work
* Set up your affiliate webmaster program - depends, ccbill link - 1 hr
* build 20 hosted galleries - 20x$15 min
* provide a hosted gallery script so your affiliates can use them - free
* supply "upsales" content inside the members area(you make more money) - signing up - 2 hrs
* Help you submit to big TGPs to get traffic to your site - depends one time - 1 hr teaching
* Listen to what you want and get the job done - errrr

so

$2900 + 2-2,5 days work

$5k is realistic, I wouldnt do it for anything less
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I'm looking at everything and everyone right now.

Yes price is a factor. It would be a lie to say it isn't. But there are many other things that are a factor too.

And this wouldn't be the first time I've slugged out 5k and got nothing. Hell we slugged out 8k once and got one page from somebody with a list of referals and a portfolio an arm long. (You know who you are!!! Asshole!!)

So, I'm obviously not going to take the $175 offer. But obviously if two companies are equal, I'm going to take the cheaper of the two.
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:37 AM   #34
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I'm looking at everything and everyone right now.

Yes price is a factor. It would be a lie to say it isn't. But there are many other things that are a factor too.

And this wouldn't be the first time I've slugged out 5k and got nothing. Hell we slugged out 8k once and got one page from somebody with a list of referals and a portfolio an arm long. (You know who you are!!! Asshole!!)

So, I'm obviously not going to take the $175 offer. But obviously if two companies are equal, I'm going to take the cheaper of the two.
8k for a design is pretty heavy, if youre getting webinc dickman etc do a full site AND a full cashsite thats gonna be even less

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8k for a design is pretty heavy, if youre getting webinc dickman etc do a full site AND a full cashsite thats gonna be even less

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Thank you for the offer. It is most appreciated.

I only hope that everyone responds to their emails soon. I hate it when you send message after message and never receive a response.
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* Video tour with at least 4 videos (1 megabyte each I suggest) - design incl 5 pages 2k
* Each video branded with your URL(gets the bookmark sales ) - $100
* 2 additional tour pages with sample pics(you don't need 5 page tours) - incl
* Build your member content pages that are surfer friendly - small cms $500
* Aquire free feeds to enhance your content - free
* suggest paid feeds that retain members - free
* Set up your credit card processing(ccbill or verotel) - 2 days work
* Set up your affiliate webmaster program - depends, ccbill link - 1 hr
* build 20 hosted galleries - 20x$15 min
* provide a hosted gallery script so your affiliates can use them - free
* supply "upsales" content inside the members area(you make more money) - signing up - 2 hrs
* Help you submit to big TGPs to get traffic to your site - depends one time - 1 hr teaching
* Listen to what you want and get the job done - errrr

so

$2900 + 2-2,5 days work

$5k is realistic, I wouldnt do it for anything less
I personally would wonder about hiring someone who simply copies someone elses work plan and changes the prices rather than writing their own work plan based on what they think should be done.

The client is looking for someone who has a sense of direction for the project. You only provided a copy of the direction I already formulated.
What happens if she needs to change direction during the project? Are you going to email me and request a list of tasks to make this adjustment?

The client is not just looking for a tour or a logo or a hosted gallery script.
She is looking for a "project manager" that will produce a money making website regardless of any particular task that could be involved.
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Old 09-16-2005, 05:27 PM   #37
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Then why can't I find any?

I get similar problems over and over again.

1. I have 2 sites. Neither has a backend and the webmonster disappeard. (Several months no contact.) I have the files.

2. They claim to be able to do something and they can't. (I've got one guy who creates one page and trys to borrow $50 bucks. - Finish your job and I'll pay you!)

3. They have no concept of how they are going to drive traffic. (They just want to handle the updates and payment processing - which I pay them for.)

4. They complain about our concepts. They complain about content. They complain about what we do that isn't web-related. They just complain.

5. No matter how much content we create it is never enough. We have boxes of stuff we haven't touched. But they can't find usuable stuff.

Ok,

I'm just ranting now. I want to meet a professional that does what they claim they can do. And I'm willing to pay for it and have total control.
You sound like you have PMS

Stop bitching.

And why don't you try learning something instead of just paying someone to do aboslutely everything (traffic, marketing, design) for you.

Maybe this is the wrong place for you. Just buy/bid on one of those "Turn Key Adult Websites" on E-Bay
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Old 09-16-2005, 05:45 PM   #38
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We don't have time to take on your project now, but I will offer some advice...

You need consulting first and foremost. From someone with direct industry experience, not someone who just designs pretty sites for a living. You state that you just want something that makes money... Great! Anyone can promise you that, and once they have your money what are you going to do? There is not 1 single designer in this industry that can guarantee a site is going to make tons of money, myself included. The website is only part of the puzzle. Longterm objectives need to be established.. and again you need consulting for that.

I suggest you talk to YnotBob about his consulting services before spending any money with a designer. If you hit me up in ICQ I will send you his contact information. I have worked with several clients he consulted with and they were all very happy with his advice.
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You sound like you have PMS

Stop bitching.

And why don't you try learning something instead of just paying someone to do aboslutely everything (traffic, marketing, design) for you.

Maybe this is the wrong place for you. Just buy/bid on one of those "Turn Key Adult Websites" on E-Bay

You know there is always got to be someone that wants to take a shot.
I posted a "Help wanted" and thats all there is to it. If it's not what you're interested in why bother with the energy to insult me.

As for learning something:

We already do a hell of alot! ON THE PRODUCTION END.
Do you think content makes itself?

We have to track down talent. Organize schedules. Deal with scenarios, setups, problems on set, find viagara for men that don't work and find stunt cocks when viagara doesn't work.

Not to mention knowing how to handle the camera, light the damn place, show girls how to pose, get all the angles needed, balance egos, get this stuff edited, take it to distribution, do paperwork, organize locations, etc etc.

The fucking list goes on and on and on.

And I'm not in the United States with a nice abilty to find readily qualified people that are ready to work. We have to beg girls to work and explain to them they aren't going to recieve 20k for a video and most local cameramen either shoot with real film or Betacam.

So don't chew me out for not being a webmaster/programer/database consultant/etc. I put the money up. Therefore I'm the boss and as part of my job description to locate people that know their job so I don't have to do it for them.

And with luck I'll have content into the hands of person I've decided to go with by the end of the month. (I'm swamped in doing a catalog of what we currently have.)

So you will see a new site soon.
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I asked for a full site redesign to, after I had hired him with $800 on the table he backed out after a week stating he couldn't continue due to moral issues Anyway all he did was one crappy banner.
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Kelly, just sent you an e-mail.

You can also contact me via ICQ or MSN... (see sig)

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I asked for a full site redesign to, after I had hired him with $800 on the table he backed out after a week stating he couldn't continue due to moral issues Anyway all he did was one crappy banner.
And doesn't it piss you off that they dont have a morality problem taking your money?

As for the entire morality thing. Myself and another pronographer produced some extreme rape stuff in Russia. We had a BITCH of a time getting rid of it. Thank God for the Japanese market or we would have been out some serious coin.
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Your mailbox is full. I tried to send you a message but it was returned.
I have a great plan for you as in free! I will try to send the email again layer.
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MetroPornTour - i work as a project manager, and i suggest that this is what you need. find someone experienced, with a good reputation and references. do searches on the boards, and ask around.

then it's the project manager's job to get everyone else working, and a good PM will know designers, writers, marketers, etc. if a designer disappears, the PM finds a new one to finish the job. if you have someone working on banners, the PM will make sure the text is right, and the delivery time is kept. and so on. so no matter what the problems are, you are no longer the person dealing with them...
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Your mailbox is full. I tried to send you a message but it was returned.
I have a great plan for you as in free! I will try to send the email again layer.
It shouldn't be full.
I just checked it this morning. Unless Mail.com is screwing up again.

My address is [email protected]
And free I always like.
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