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50.........

Giorgio_Xo

I have a question. Were these guys relatively young and looked really cholo? At one point yesterday or the day before I was chatting with Trixie at a table and these three young cholo looking kids saw Trixie and went out of there way to sit at the table next to us. They were jabbering away in Spanish speaking rudely of Trixie and discussing other women of that evening. When they realised that I wasn't gonna leave the table, they abruptly left the area.

Secondly, another model told me a story of some 50-something asshole that worked for some airline got into the hotel without a pass. He was incredibly aggressive with her. She told me that he spent almost 5 minutes literally 4 inches from her face repeatedly asking if she wanted to go with him upstairs, the bathroom, anywhere less public. She said that he gave alot of rapist-type vibes. Thankfully after making it very, very clear that she wanted to be left alone he stop following her around the lobby. She did report it to the hotel staff.

Clear rules of conduct need to be posted.
Models need contant security.
Assholes need to be blackballed or arrested and/or sued.

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Tala

These guys sound scary as hell. Am I going to have to bring bodyguards to Vegas??

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Sorry to hear this happened to you, Chase. I'm also sorry that we didn't get a chance to meet up with you at Internext.

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Should have maced the scum bag..drunk or not that would give him a good lesson

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See the Internext Gangbang thread to get an idea why a lot of webmasters probably think anyone is up for grabs.


Hitting on women is fine. Going past that is obviously completely unacceptable.


To the webmasters wanting a piece of ass at Internext:


May I suggest you let your wallet talk and offer to PAY for sex, rather than try and romance your way into a porn girl's pants?


Unless of course she isn't content. Then, by all means, try to look good, don't be too drunk, don't be too forward, and be polite.

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HDADULT

Ahhhh. Power to the people. He must be stupid as fuck too know that this is a board where people communicate and for the most part good and for the better of it all. The only thing I ask is that you have too hear both sides of any story and make your own decision as to the outcome...If someone is accused, they need to be able to defend just as If anyone was accused. not to say that chase is lying or exagertating but the guy needs defend....954.929.0536 is the number to the business.
If I knew you chase I would call him out on your behalf so If anyone does they should invite this dude in on the comments before someone does something irrational and whoop his ass. Just my opinion of course...

KCat

That's awful, Chase. I can't imagine going to a show alone & I'm the type who has no problem telling a guy to back off, so after what you've been through...wow. That takes a lot of courage. I'm glad there are communities like this one that help us all keep an eye out for each other & of course, guys like Brent & Charlie who apparently jumped in & got the pricks to leave.

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swedguy

Sorry to hear about it chase


Quick question: Isn't it illegal to force yourself upon someone?

tristan_D

I'm very sorry to hear that. I feel bad for you.

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LittleMack

Damn Chase, that sucks...some guys are just fucking assholes...that pisses me off. The nerve of the fuckers. Same thing Lori, glad the situation was handled and the guys were bounced.

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V_RocKs

I think Boneprone might want to sue over a possible violation of his trademark on this one:

V_RocKs

Yes, matter of factly, it is...

If I were Chase and lived in Florida I'd have him arrested... but I don't... and she probably doesn't either and If I had to go back for the trial I'd say ughhh...

But here is there office party...
http://party.zantafe-films.com/photos.htm

No wonder they want to come to our shit instead!

NaughtyRob

Sorry to hear that Chase, those guys are fucking losers.

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His buddy and also the co-owner of the company.

NickRac

thats unfortunate - it's people like that that REALLY top off the bad rep in the adult industry

RRRED

Aw chase that's very brave of you to share that. I have always been a big believer in making sure you're not alone at a convention. I always like to have a guy with me. It just feels safer because when something like this happens it's usually very unexpected and can be misunderstood from the distance by onlookers as something you are allowing.

I can name off quite a few incidents where I was comforted by others with class that came to MY rescue so to speak.

First time that ever happened to me was in Lensmans suite years ago.. they were about to do a shoot or something and some dickhead was being really pushy and talking to me like I was a total two bit whore trying to get me over to the couch etc etc... Lens came out of nowhere and took care of the situation lickity split...

Another time was in Mike Prices suite.. some dickhead who wasn't even a webmaster managed to wander in and start bugging some of the other girls there and they kinda reached out to me to warn me or help them somehow.. then the fucker came at me trying shit and I simply said "Hey Mike this dude needs to GO" and without question, BOOM, GONE!

Oh I could go on and on but the most recent was in Cancun, I was with Brad Shaw and friends and he had some guy that was from there that ran some sort of Cancun forum or something... out of the industry but Brad knew him somehow and had invited him to come along. It wasn't two glasses of cristal later the fucker was rubbing my leg and shit being a total sicko. Brad had his ass carried out instantly by like 4 guys.. threw his ass right out of the place pronto.

If you ever need help with anything.. that goes for any of the girls who might not know alot of people personally, all you really need to do is gesture to SOMEONE... if you don't get action, keep trying... SOMEONE will help you. The large majority of this industry has no respect for assholes like this.

chase

It was the guy at the far right that was being forceful with me.

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RRRED

Nice! He will go nowhere in this business!

chase

You know, after looking at those pics, I'd bet my right tit they were on drugs that night...I don't see the wild scary look in their eyes in those pics. Maybe that's why they were so pushy, and why we got really intimidated by them. Anyone who knows me well knows that I don't start shit, but if it's started with me, I will finish it. I'm not generally an intimidatable sort of girl. But someone who is completely high out his tree will give off a scary vibe when they are trying to force their tongue down your face.

You know what gets me though? All those tight young hotties running around the hotel and he picked ME to fuck with? The chubby girl? I dunno, lol, I had JUST gotten in a fight with my ex that night about how any asshole was not going to fuck with a girl like me when there were so many young hotties running around. And I was bigger around and pretty damn near taller than that guy, too, I would think he would choose someone more petite and most likely easier to control. On the other hand, maybe he thought I would be an easier piece of ass? (Hahahaha, little does he know, I got a LOT more attention that I expected, lol. Someone told me that when you are hanging out with me you have so much fun you don't even notice that I'm chubby, lol.)

But I guess it goes back to it being about power, not about sex, so much. I dunno.

Thanks for the support form those of you who offered it. It means a lot to me, and I'm sure seeing how the community came together to support its girls will encourage any girls in the future to come forward as well.

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V_RocKs

Damn, RRRED, nice to see that there are a lot of guys and gals in the industry who don't put up with this kinda shit (or bumping 2001 threads)...

I was just at a tournament at Pechanga and it got down to 3 tables and they sit my GF next to me. We don't pay any attention to each other because we don't want the other players to wonder since we know we will be split up at the next table move.

The guy on the other side of her starts talking to her about this and that and then buys her a drink she didn't ask for. Some fu-fu drink and she only drinks Corona so I kinda chuckled... Then out of no where he starts rubbing her leg and she is like, ahh what the fuck are you doing? And he is like ohh, your pants are really soft. I like that. So I put my arm around her and he is like who do you think you are? I say, "I'm all in!" with a straight poker face... hat and sun glasses on... just looking at him with a dead face....

After about 5 seconds the table busts up laughing and he throws his cards at me. Security walks his ass out and the tables like, good job dude. Sticking up for that chick... About 5 minutes later she kisses me when she wins a large pot that I was in and everyones thinking wow... she is coming on to this dude? Maybe I should have said something to that guy... Then she goes out and I go to the final table and everyone is wispering about her seeming to be "waiting around for me." Telling me I have a good chance with her... so I go all in at 7th, collect my $560 bucks and inform them that I am going now while she is still hot for me...

RRRED

Haha bumping old threads.. were YOU drunk that night? That's the kind of drunken stuff I can tolerate...

But now that you mention it, that thread you had bumped was one of the only threads where some guys were saying some semi disrespectful stuff to me. At the time, I "tee hee'd" it off because I probably didn't feel I had a strong enough position around here to simply say "Fuck off that's not funny". When I had read it, it irked me because it made me look like I got where I am by being slutty or whatever and anyone who knows me knows that is not the case. We are all human and we flirt, etc but that does not give anyone reason to trash talk or grope.

And chase, with all due respect, you really need to stop rationalizing and justifying thier behavior. I've seen guys turn into that creepy scary side quickly when no drugs were involved. Plus there is no drug that I can think of that is a valid excuse for pushing themselves on you. Next time don't be so timid. If you can squeeze yourself away like it sounds like you did, take the next step and go to someone that can get the guy kicked out of wherever you're at. If you don't know anyone, FIND ME...

swedguy

Then my follow-up question is: Why wasn't the police called in?

V_RocKs

Because I am in Chino, CA and the situation is in Florida...

And it would be up to Chase...

Personally I'd have just kicked the guys ass and felt better about it.

chase

Was I rationalizing it? Eek, I didn't even realize it, but several of you have said that, so I guess I was.

I didn't even have a chance to tell anyone...I was able to slip away BECAUSE the other ones were being told to leave and the one that was with me heard it and turned his attention from me. Then when I heard what had happened with Lori, I told them what happened with the one guy, too.

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swedguy

I know it's up to chase.

By outing someone on GFY, doesn't do much use. People that read GFY is a small piss in a big pond.

What about the girls at the club he goes to next Friday? Doubt they read GFY.
What about the girls at the convention he goes to next time and don't read GFY or didn't read GFY during the few days this thread was on the first page?
What about the girls he meets at a party at XYZ? Doubt they read GFY.

If he would have a sexual harassment report against him, I think he would think twice about doing shit like this one more time.


I'm not bashing anyone. Just giving my 2 cent on the whole situation against fucktards that can't keep their hands where they actually belong.

chase

I understand what you are saying. But come on, like the cops would have done a thing about it, hun. I was a girl porn webmaster, alone, hanging out with a bunch of pornographers, and hey, I've been content, and hey, I kissed another guy that night (who shall remain nameless, but not because I don't know his name, lol), and hey, I was flashing my tits up there (not in front of the guy who did this, but to my friends), so hey, I must have brought it on myself, right?

I reported it when I was actually raped before and they dropped the charges because I "wasn't credible"....know why I think I wasn't credible? Because I had a baby a week before I turned 17 (two years before the rape) so I must be a slut, right? I mean, of course no one will SAY that, but if the DA doesn't think they can win the case, they don't prosecute. Having them pick you apart is like being violated all over again and I don't think the end result is worth it in this case.

I figured I'd report it among the people he was at the show to do business with. Hit him where it hurts-his wallet. No one wants a director and film crew working with talent that has a history of being sexually threatening-it's a lawsuit waiting to happen, aside from just not being the working conditions you offer talent if you ever want to be able to get talent in the future.

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That's seriously fucked up.

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Chase ,

Sorry to hear that you had to deal with those loosers. So many of the men ( if you can call them that) at the show were nothing more then little boys that have an inflated head from boards like GFY. These guys that think that women want them for blah blah blah are only in a dream world.
These are the same people that will make money with your company and then act like they do not know you when they are around their clicks. These same guys think that all the women should want to be with them. That is not the case.
If a guy does not take no for answer and will not take no for an answer he has major self esteem and mental issues.

CherryLipsRosa

Hey Chase, it is really courageous of you to speak out. Being a female in this industry is not easy and yes you get pushed and badly treated as well as supported and taken care of by everyone around you.
Speaking out might not make a big difference and sometimes you are condemned before you even try to explain yourself but know that if you can help out one person in this industry then so be it.
Cheers to all!

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tony286

Im sorry that happened to you. If they are going to have liquor at these things. They should either pay or have voluntreers provide a watchful eye at these things. I bounced for a long long time, for some guys liquor is instant asshole. Also if everybody isnt webmasters then a watchful eye is even more important.

swedguy

Sexual harassment is sexual harassment and illegal, no matter how you look at it.

chase

I agree, but realistically...if I had called the cops, they would have arrived after the guys were long gone, and been too busy looking at all the hot ass around to bother with me, and probably would have just thought I egged it on. I am NOT saying I think that. But it happens ALL THE TIME.

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I had no idea it was that bad when it was happening to you and the other woman you mentioned. I'd known her longer and had thought of both of you as being extremely capable of handling yourselves and if not, to let it be known. I dragged her inside, but I don't remember doing the same with you and for that i apologize.

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Xplicit

Ok the one part I dont get...

He TRIES, you push him away, then STAY CLOSE ENOUGH TO HIM TO TRY AGAIN?

Then he fails again.......

........and THEN ONCE AGAIN tries????

While I completely agree with the "no means no" thing, this story could be a hell of a lot shorter if you just WALKED AWAY.

RRRED

This is EXACTLY why most girls don't bother speaking up or asking for help. She's not on trial here

RRRED

BTW, is your name Mario by chance?

Anthony

So... It's her fault for minding her own business, and trying to enjoy herself?

It's so fucking easy to be the monday morning quaterback, isn't it?

You fucking asshole, shut the fuck up.

evanmorgan

chio tried to fist me with his hook, go get him!!

But seriously, this is certainly no joke, hopefully the people will see this thread and regret it, infact, hopefully they already regretted it.

Ev

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Nope.

...and i'm not trying to put her on trial.

I read this story, and try to picture it all going down, and it just doesnt make sense that she was having such a bad experience with the guy and stayed close enough for him to try kissing her at least 3 times.

Are you actually saying that you disagree with my advice to WALK OFF????

You're crazy bro.

HammerALL

That's terrible Chase - point him out next time - I'll keep an eye on you ;)

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I know you're not TRYING to put her on trial, but I'm just making a point. The fact is that a majority of the time when a girl speaks up about something that went down, people tend to do the whole "Why didn't you do this?" and "Why didn't you do that?" "Why didn't you scream? run? kick him in the balls?" etc etc

Sometimes that's easy to do and sometimes things happen real fast and the girl could be confused by their initial intentions and things can get out of control, threatening, and uncomfortable FAST... also when there is alcohol involved, ones problem solving skills are probably scewed.

chase

Dude, this happened within a matter of seconds, I was struggling to get away and he was grabbing my head and pinning me to the sofa. The one with the back of it up against the outside wall.

I've had people try to kiss me before, and turning my head away and leaning away is usually enough to get the point across, if my "No you can't kiss me" isn't enough...I didn't realize I was in trouble until he was grabbing at me and pushing me back into the sofa. And then I was TRYING to get off the couch.

It's not like this was over a ten minute period or anything.

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Xplicit

Absolutly not. Its HIS fault that this problem exists to begin with.

Its like telling a woman to avoid walking through a dark ally. She SHOULD be able too, we all agree on that, but the REALITY is that some situations should be avoided.

If the girl is "minding her own business" doesnt really mean shit, we're talking about keeping them safe.

We know the guys who harrass these girls dont care if they're minding their own business, so why the fuck would you encoruage the girl to stick around for more harrassment from these jerks???

Yeah its fucked up that these guys exist, but you girls NEED to avoid them, yes its unfair to them and yes it sucks, but welcome to the real fucking world.

I dont know if you're stupid or just trying to impress her, but walking off and getting away from this guy is the obvious solution, and if you cant see that you have problems.

Telling a girl to stay around and continue to be harrassed is not going to help anybody but the guys doing the harrassment.

Its really not a hard concept.

RRRED

You're doing it again ;)

aeon

Has anyone talked to these people/person - have they heard their side of the story?

They could be guilty as sin but you're all going spaz over a message board post and someone you spent no more than a few days with. A few years ago someone else was accused of shit - it was all BS...

I want anyone of you to go speak to a government prosecutor and see if they consider having a child as a minor being "not credible". Something doesn't seem to add up.

If these people are guilty they should be facing charges but why in the fuck are all you people running in to make face on a message board when you only have one side?

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BigasMoe

I see this thread is still alive and well!

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