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roly 07-22-2005 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Linkster
I guess the part that kinda puts me off about this is that according to the eyewitnesses that have posted their stories - the guy tripped and fell - the police ran up to him and then shot him 5 times while he was lying on the ground? That doesnt sound like a "normal" reaction for a cop

it is if they have a very real reason to believe he was another suicide bomber. whether they had we will have to see but from what i gather, the guy had been under survielance and they were following him to see who he met up with or where he went (so there's a good chance he's related to the recent attacks in some way - the security services don't put you under survielance just for being asian), unfortunatly he decided to enter the underground wearing a heavy coat on a summers day and when he was told to stop he ran. i would bet he's linked to all this and if so, good riddance. if he's not guilty of anything then it's a shame but there's not a person in europe let alone london who isn't aware of what's currently going on there at the moment. so to run from armed police in london at the moment let alone on the underground is crazy. but just because he wasn't one of the bombers doesn't mean he isn't linked in some way.

btw. i can't believe the irony of an israeli talking about 1 (only possibly) innocent person being shot when 5 year old children and aid workers are shot in israel almost daily.

Bama 07-22-2005 10:23 AM

I wouldn't care if I was in a country that spoke a language so remote that it would be impossible for anyone not born in that country to understand, learn or even comprehend...

Innocent of any crime or guilty as sin - when an armed cop is yelling instructions to you - you stop and raise your hands. You can always sort shit out later!

davethetruth 07-22-2005 10:25 AM

Another passenger on the train, Anthony Larkin, told BBC News the man appeared to be wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out".

Mr Dickovitch 07-22-2005 10:49 AM

I thought they just hit people there with those silly clubs.

swedguy 07-22-2005 11:08 AM

Not even 12 hours has passed so it's a tad early to judge if he's innocent or not :)

What I've read and heard from eyewitnesses on TV, I'm on the cops side.

The guy didn't stop when told so.

He was running around in a big, bulky overcoat that didn't fit the current weather situation. Remember that everybody is looking for foreigners with backpacks, much better to strap the bombs to your body and cover it up with an overcoat, right?

When he fell/was tripped by the cops (I've heard both stories), he was shot with 5 rounds. He most likely has the detonator in the hand, pocket or up the arm. If they stop and ask him what he's doing, he can easily reach the detonator. Shoot to kill.

The cops are instructed to shoot to kill. The guy had done enough to justify the cops action.

MetaMan 07-22-2005 11:10 AM

so when do you think only whites, blacks and asians will be able to take the tube?

only a matter of time? i dont think it is to far fetched, this is war.

Giorgio_Xo 07-22-2005 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg
BTW, I'm rather trying to show the hypocrisy of some people than actually critisize the London police.

If such thing happened in Israel and it turned out the man was innocent (btw I don't recall such thing happening in Israel), Ken Livingfuck would be all over the media telling everybody how Israel are terrorists...


Israel is a terrorist state. They have a ghetto of 3.5 million people with no means of support, no country, no rights, no hope... Israel is no better than Nazi Germany.

Rich 07-22-2005 11:21 AM

I can't believe I agree with alexg. Everyone is so quick to judge and to just assume that the government is doing the right thing. Oh no, the government couldn't kill an innocent man, he must be a terrorist.

Like alex says, what if he was deaf? He deserves to die because he can't hear? What if he was mentally retarded or had a disease like alzheimer's and had no idea what was going on?

The fact is police shouldn't shoot people for not listening to them unless they KNOW they're very dangerous and/or armed. They like to use times like these, when half of the public is scared shitless, to get us used to abuses of power like this. It's pathetic to see how many people accept it.

alexg 07-22-2005 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich
I can't believe I agree with alexg. Everyone is so quick to judge and to just assume that the government is doing the right thing. Oh no, the government couldn't kill an innocent man, he must be a terrorist.

Like alex says, what if he was deaf? He deserves to die because he can't hear? What if he was mentally retarded or had a disease like alzheimer's and had no idea what was going on?

The fact is police shouldn't shoot people for not listening to them unless they KNOW they're very dangerous and/or armed. They like to use times like these, when half of the public is scared shitless, to get us used to abuses of power like this. It's pathetic to see how many people accept it.

how could ken livingstone allow such thing to happen?

i think he should retire from his post immediately...

Rich 07-22-2005 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
how could ken livingstone allow such thing to happen?

i think he should retire from his post immediately...


What does the mayor have to do with this?

Oh right, he opposes Israel. blah blah blah

BradM 07-22-2005 11:50 AM

I can't believe I agree with the conservatives here but I do. Liberals have no ground to stand on regarding this issue.

He's deaf? Then don't wear bulky overcoats after a terrorist bombing in the middle of summer in a tube that has had two attacks in the last 2 weeks in it. You're going to get shot.

Use your heads here people.

alexg 07-22-2005 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich
What does the mayor have to do with this?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

thaifan99 07-22-2005 12:20 PM

The police had been following him since yesterday.............. they dont follow people for no good reason. They tried to stop him oustide the station........ he ran inside and down to the platforms and onto a train............... he ignored multiple warnings to stop........... they feared he was about to detonate something under his jacket.........

Good call.......

CheeseFrog 07-22-2005 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio
which part of PLAIN CLOTHES POLICEMEN don't you understand???????
which part of HE WAS LYING ON THE GROUND WHILE BEING SHOT FIVE TIMES don't you understand?????

I predict that he was reaching into his pocket and produced what looked to be a gun.

Apache_A 07-22-2005 12:48 PM

From what I heard on the news he left a house that was under observation in connection with the events yesterday, they followed him and as he entered the station they confrontent him (obviouly the didn't want to let him go into the tube station with out giving him a once over) and he ran from them, jumped over a barrier and down onto the train.... sounds like they had all reason to belive he was a threat to life in that situation and acted in the correct manner.

Linkster 07-22-2005 12:53 PM

I really think we ought to withhold judgement until they finish editing the tube videos ....ooops I mean finish the investigation into this and give us an official report on what really happened instead of relying on eyewitness accounts - we all know how wrong people standing next to an event can be compared to what the officials know - they're professionals

strats 07-22-2005 12:59 PM

They just killed a normal person.

An 8 to 5'er with a real life, secure and alive south asian enlightened guy with a normal life. They've been 'tracking' him because he isn't gods bitch. Then they killed him using their 'surveillance' system (for security eh) which was originally put into place to control humanity not kill people. This is after they planted bombs in the trains just like they did in the towers. They want to be the only people in control. The fat baby eating white grinning conservative n1ggers. They just want control. The funny part is they can never have it. All they can do is cause problems until they enslave (rememebr the white missionaries who convert tribes, etc?) or force breed real actual good humans (this is after they have done sick shit like kill good people/use them as slaves), so they can have the real thing (women) to fuck and feel good. Basically they enslave humanity because they suck and can't stand it. For example, the association of '13' .. the fat ass white male scum n1ggers who are at the heart of control of a particular aspect of it, Those n1ggers have good women enslaved. They don't deserve them one bit, but through the use of enslavement methods (foulplay [akin to missionaries giving out trinkets etc], just controlling their atttention, .. or breeding them fromthe getgo...), they have them and those good woman will likely die with them.

There was a woman who god personally (still foulplay, god is really a stupid n1gger) kiled in the 50's that if wasn't killed, would have contributed so greatly and brought gods entire shitty ass fucked up system. So he killed her, and sits there grinning still (a hidden grin in some shadow somewhere, not similar to a devil type grin, just there as a stupid fucking faggot hiding in some fucked ass fuckhole while 'smirking' at the worst possible suffering of humanity.

What needs to happen, is all beings at the same time need to kill everyone and kick his ass out. Well, a bunch of stupid n1ggers need to die first (not black people, n1gger faggot fucking n1ggers, ok you stupid illiterate n1gger?), then kick his ass out.

What the fuck is all this typing going to do anyway? Not a fucking thing, but fuck you regardless.

The women who would have finished it all in the 50's? Her?... well, through a worse than pitch black type 'ritual' or some shit, he forced her to rbirt into one of his 'slaves' .. can't particularly be called slaves because they have been controlled for so long and just do his work and actually are really stupid little bitches ALWAYS controlled by him. Well, that woman he killed got a birth to one of his bitches and now is one of the worst dirty c u n t hoes i know. She is a fucking cuunt.

Hear of mara the destroyer? Most of gods people 'worship' this (doesn't really exist but in their minds and can only continue to exist if they do really sick stuff. Really sick stuff.).

Hope you n1ggers enjoyed reading this.

Bunch of bitches. That all the whole thing is. Bunch of faggot n1ggers

Sarah_Jayne 07-22-2005 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
so when do you think only whites, blacks and asians will be able to take the tube?

only a matter of time? i dont think it is to far fetched, this is war.

that will never happen in this country and btw here Asian means India, Pakistan, etc

strats 07-22-2005 01:10 PM

Quote:

There was a woman who god personally (still foulplay, god is really a stupid n1gger) kiled in the 50's that if wasn't killed, would have contributed so greatly and brought gods entire shitty ass fucked up system. S
rather: There was a woman who god personally (still foulplay, god is really a stupid n1gger) kiled in the 50's that if wasn't killed, would have contributed so greatly and brought down gods entire shitty ass fucked up system.

Manowar 07-22-2005 01:12 PM

religion always causes this bullshit

Manowar 07-22-2005 01:13 PM

if anything they should ban all religions, except in your own home

strats 07-22-2005 01:17 PM

Quote:

There was a woman who god personally (still foulplay, god is really a stupid n1gger) kiled in the 50's that if wasn't killed, would have contributed so greatly and brought gods entire shitty ass fucked up system. So he killed her, and sits there grinning still (a hidden grin in some shadow somewhere, not similar to a devil type grin, just there as a stupid fucking faggot hiding in some fucked ass fuckhole while 'smirking' at the worst possible suffering of humanity.
however, isn't doing that atm

David! 07-22-2005 01:19 PM

I bet no one here heard about the fact that the British security forces have called in Israeli consultant on how to deal with suicide bombers scum bags.

I bet that ken livingshit is crapping all over himself now that his police force has killed an "innocent" man.

I'd rather lose some of my rights rather than be blown to bits, this is not only my thoughts but also the thoughts of some Brits interviewed on the evil conservative CNN.

Oh and Rich, why don't you stick a pickle in your ass? I heard that it does wonder for hemorrhoids

strats 07-22-2005 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by strats
however, isn't doing that atm

He is however still sick, as in nasty

strats 07-22-2005 01:21 PM

'sicko.'

thaifan99 07-22-2005 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
, why don't you stick a pickle in your ass? I heard that it does wonder for hemorrhoids

Noted lol............. never thought of that one!

V_RocKs 07-22-2005 01:24 PM

Can an Asian Muslin get a table dance up in here?

mardigras 07-22-2005 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
I'd rather lose some of my rights rather than be blown to bits

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

strats 07-22-2005 01:27 PM

My first writeup of this post was much worse. Deleted it, didn't "save", would have presented it, in "retrospect" after "realizing" possible benefit to humanity. doesn't suggest 'benefit' exists, as that would require there to be a problem, which in fact there is no problem

- not including n1ggers ; no problem

strats 07-22-2005 01:30 PM

n1ggers. m :p

Manowar 07-22-2005 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

Exactly.

David! 07-22-2005 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

"Terrorism is escalating to the point that Americans soon may have to choose between civil liberties and more intrusive means of protection." -- William S. Cohen

Rinaldo 07-22-2005 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
from cnn.com:

"The information I have available is that this shooting is directly linked to the ongoing and expanding anti-terrorist operation," said Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair.

While the death is deeply regrettable, Blair said, the man challenged police and refused to obey instructions.

A senior police official told CNN the man was being followed in connection with the investigation. The man has not been formally identified, the official said, and it is not clear if he was one of the four suspected bombers police have identified from closed circuit television images.




doesn't sound very convincing to be honest

why would blair comment on something like that, if someone is shot in miami or in dallas Bush doesn't comment about it, doesn't he have better shit to do?

Apache_A 07-22-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rinaldo
why would blair comment on something like that, if someone is shot in miami or in dallas Bush doesn't comment about it, doesn't he have better shit to do?

That's Ian Blair, head of the london police, not Tony blair the PM... he's kept his nose well out of it and let the police do what they have too

Tuga 07-22-2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster
I guess the part that kinda puts me off about this is that according to the eyewitnesses that have posted their stories - the guy tripped and fell - the police ran up to him and then shot him 5 times while he was lying on the ground? That doesnt sound like a "normal" reaction for a cop


How many times is a normal reaction? I think 5 is ok, but I'm addicted to Counterstrike.

thaifan99 07-22-2005 02:30 PM

Have a read here what the BBC lastest is

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm

Gunni 07-22-2005 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexg
well I read about this briefly and it doesn't seem like he was a suicide bomber.

that's just fucked up... since when do you shoot a guy 5 times in the middle of the street?

you're being sarcastic right :upsidedow

BigasMoe 07-22-2005 03:36 PM

I can't believe it took 5 shots to take this guy out. Hell if you shoot me with a fuckin BB gun I'm goin down. FUck That!

directfiesta 07-22-2005 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
Oh and Rich, why don't you stick a pickle in your ass? I heard that it does wonder for hemorrhoids

Experience talking :thumbsup

alexg 07-22-2005 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaifan99
Noted lol............. never thought of that one!

:1orglaugh


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