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Gunni 07-25-2005 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
pretty close, no ????

Don't forget: perception by the people is what stays ... just like GW Bush never said that Iraq was involved in 9-11, but most american beleived so .... :2 cents:

fact is simple, he was under suspicion, was being stopped, ran and got killed.
He had not been under suspicion for long, and it did not take long for them to admit they were wrong, and he had done nothing wrong (exept making a very bad decision that cost him his life)

bhutocracy 07-25-2005 04:27 PM

"He was assaulted by Englishmen (two weeks earlier) and because of that he may have been scared," Fausto Soares, a Brazilian friend who resides in London, told the Brazilian newspaper, O Globo

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/day...143775935.html


There we go.. Some fuckheads give him a beating two weeks ago and now he's an idiot for running away from plainclothes guys chasing him. Fucking whatever guys... the cops fucked up big time.

Gunni 07-25-2005 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy
"He was assaulted by Englishmen (two weeks earlier) and because of that he may have been scared," Fausto Soares, a Brazilian friend who resides in London, told the Brazilian newspaper, O Globo

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/day...143775935.html


There we go.. Some fuckheads give him a beating two weeks ago and now he's an idiot for running away from plainclothes guys chasing him. Fucking whatever guys... the cops fucked up big time.

Obviously the cops should've known that! I wasn't disputing that.... [/sarcasm]
Like I said earlier, I would like to see any evidence other than hear say, eyewitnesses, police report (that's what you do when you get mugged right, call the police) what ever.

Also I have yet to hear of an incident in London involving a big group of well dressed adult men wit guns mugging people at 8'o click in the morning on a weekday. And I am positive he never heard of such an incident during the years he lived there.

mardigras 07-25-2005 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunni
And btw. if witnesses don't matter in the judical system in America,

Good lord, where did you ever read that into anything I said? Of course witnesses matter in the judicial system in America (as well as forensic, photographic and other evidence) but nobody decides a case before all that evidence has been presented and all of the witnesses have been heard from and their statements compared to other evidence for collaboration.
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Originally Posted by Gunni
Basicly I am saying that the eyewitnesses are the evidence

No, the witnesses are a part of the evidence.

If person A says "This is the guy I saw robbing the bank" and there is a video showing clearly that it was not him, should he go to jail because the witness was "sure"? CourtTV has run a number of excellent programs showing how faulty eyewitness testimony can be, where different people remember completely different heights, weight, clothes, hair color, actions, the whole 9 yards.

You were not there. You cannot pick one witness over another from news reports to believe. There are too many things in this case that just don't add up and they won't even start to add up until there are some pictures or official witness transcripts or something released... it's quite possible that key evidence won't be known by the public until the family has them subpoenaed in a civil suit.

mardigras 07-25-2005 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunni
Like I said earlier, I would like to see any evidence other than hear say, eyewitnesses, police report (that's what you do when you get mugged right, call the police) what ever.

Apparently you don't want to hear any evidence that doesn't agree with what you've already decided. :upsidedow

mardigras 07-25-2005 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunni
if 50 people saw something, 40 tell more or less the same story, 5 tell one story and another 5 yet another one, you have to belive the 40 (unless you think they're appart of some great conspiracy)

OK, please post links with multiple witnesses that say the cops clearly identified themselves in this case. No links to statements by the cops themselves, please.

mardigras 07-25-2005 09:37 PM

In case any of you are waiting for it,
none of the witnesses reported hearing any warning :eek7


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