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Don't trust aga from Netpond with an escrow (or Slavik for that matter)
Just thought I'd share with you a very disappointing domain transaction and fair warning on these two guys and how they operate.
Some weeks back I got Aga, co-owner from Netpond, to sell me dowloads.com. (I'd use his real name, but apparently it's against the rules here. email me if you need the straight goods). He approached me via my gfy thread. We bargained back and forth and eventually I agreed to his asking price of $25k. He asked if we could do the escrow.com transaction when he returned on Friday. I told him via icq: "Just give me your word we're done at $25k, and you can do it tomorrow or something. Fair enough?" His response (direct from icq logs): "you have my word ![]() Then he went ahead and decided to just agreee to the escrow.com transaction anyways. I wired out the money the next day. Then I get a note from escrow.com that he has cancelled the transaction. "He doesn't want to sell at the price at this time." the cancellation says. I'm thinking, WTF!!!?? I honestly have never had someone cancel an agreed-upon escrow. As far as I'm concerned, once someone agrees to escrow and gives me their word, it's a done deal unless someone doesn't pay or someone takes too long to follow through. Long story short is he doesn't bother to even email me like a man and tell me why he's cancelling a binding contract. Then I find out that he's sold the name out from under me to Slavik, a guy who has always been a standup guy with me, and with whom I've done lots of business. I can't tell you how disappointed I am. Why would a guy like slavik do such a thing. To me, AGA from Netpond is now scum, blacklisted far and wide. But he's not who I care about. It seems awfully out of character for a guy like slavik. When I ask slavik via icq what the deal is, he tells me that AGA was settling a debt by giving him the domain. I say to him, "Yes, but I had an escrow with him. Do contracts mean nothing to you?" Silence. I ask him if he knew I had an escrow transaction with him? He says he didn't know. I tell him: "Well, now you know and if the situation were reversed, you wouldn't have to ask me twice to get the domain back." More silence. Since then, I have sent four or five emails and icq's to slavik, all ignored. I'm never surprised when people grub for an extra nickel, but this one caught me by surprise. Mr. deltino.com? History to me. But slavik? That's more puzzling. Slav, you going to let me have dowloads.com back at the $25k that I was supposed to have it back via escrow.com, or do contracts and word mean nothing to you. PS: Don't expect to do any more biz with us until this is resolved. It may not hurt you, but that's not the point. Word is bond. PPS: As I told you via icq, people approach me with names you have in escrow. I never touch 'em. Why can't you extend me the same courtesy? ![]() |
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word of mouth DomBuyer can be the worse or best
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I really dont understand that Aga is a stand up guy. Anyway can you hit me up, I have a friend that needs to talk to you regarding a domain negociation.
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your contract is with aga, not with slavik. what slavik did was questionable and isn't something that a good business acquaintance would do but that's like asking somebody who bought a car from a third party up from under you and then you expect them to give you the car...I've been ripped EXACTLY like that but it never crossed my mind to enforce the contract that I had with the seller with the other buyer.
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i'M DOWN WITH dOMBUYER WITH WHAREVER HE SAYS.
Dom, hit me up. i want to make you money
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Nice Domain Slavik.
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When he ignored my request for an explanation, I told him he'd better explain why he cancelled or expect a very public hazing of his rep. It was then he decided I had "bullied him" into making a decision...lol...despite the fact he told me where to send the escrow and agreed to it. It's just that simple. |
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when are you going to learn that whatever your offer is, is always lower than any real domain buyer will spend.
you are like the giant catfish caught recently - a bottomfeeder ![]() congrats slavik and a deal ain't done until it's done- just like 99.9% of the domains you prematurely ejaculate about that you lose later. bay areaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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sounds like a bullshit act if you ask me . . . . but doesn't surprise me.
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My beef is actually with Slavik, not AGA. AGA is scum to me, the kind of trash that will sell to the highest bidder and who's word means nothing. Slavik is known as a mad of his word, and here he's contravening a legal contract to snap a domain from me. It destroys the system when people do that. It destroys contracts and bonds. It's really that simple. |
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DOM, Don't listen to these playa haters. I'm down with Antigua
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So Fucking Banned
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i'm just breaking his balls
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So Fucking Banned
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Free Slavik
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Antiuga ROCKS!!! how many have been there?
i only count two in this thread
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I can live without this domain, but I can't live with someone breaking their word and another guy who won't respect a contract. |
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hmmm, I think someone must have hacked your GFY account then, because that isn't what it says above |
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the problem here is that you talk too much and open up competition for yourself.
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Evan, you've just reinforced my intention never to do business with you either.
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A man is only as good as his word and integrity - when the money is gone, if he's always managed to keep his word, he'll come back on top - if he was backstabbing and kept his word only when it convenienced him - then all that happens is that people will give that back to him.
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if anyone has a domain i want - i could care less about anything else that has to do with emotions btw. i will still buy from you dombuyer if ever necessary.
i will setup a fake persona to do it though LOL
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Slavik is man of his word, he came through for me plenty of times.
You do NOT know what's the deal with the domain, you don't know whether AGA consulted Slavik, or whether Slavik was bidding on the domain and you had NO idea about it. As long as the contract is not signed, you do NOT own it, and nobody owes you shit, you should know that by now. Slavik is a stand up guy. If you thought you had a contract with AGA, you have legal grounds to sue.. but obviously you did not, so you come to the board to bitch.
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i was there - but it's spelled "Antigua" ![]()
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It was within "Aga's" right to cancel the escrow process when he did. He had not yet accepted payment, he merely agreed upon selling. |
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so dom, never answer my posts? i may have to find you in and talk to you in person. it's not hard to find you. trust me.
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YARGH! Quote of the day.
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That domain sucks, you were overpaying. Consider it a good thing.
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sorry had a few beers already today. so what do you do there? I lived there for two years and going back to find dombuyer
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As for the rest of your crap, stop there: I had a binding agreement, and slavik intervened. In actuality, I could have sued AGA for the domain, and Slavik would have been forced to return it to me, but that's not how I work. I contacted slavik and he ignored me. I take binding agreements seriously. |
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I don't know the situation about slavik (if he knew or didn't knew what was going on) . But it's Aga's fault mainly ...
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I said "Now you know, and I want the domain I contracted to buy back" Silence. To me, that's the same as knowing. ![]() |
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the problem here is that only one side of the story is getting out and heaven's forbid somebody should seek the other side before passing judgement.
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"fuck escrow dot com - no way i would ever use it. it's contracts and wire or fuck off in my world. ask anyone." So what if Slavik did the same thing to you with a written contract? What exactly is the difference you ass clown? |
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