Don't trust aga from Netpond with an escrow (or Slavik for that matter) - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

pornstar2pac · 05-25-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

xpays, I like you a lot. you ever in the caribbean at all?

I might start a nicole lenz site when your official site is ready

XPays · 05-25-2005, 06:46 PM

The moral of the story is that slavik pays more than dombuyer. NEXT!

XPays · 05-25-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

Hmm, but you just said:

"fuck escrow dot com - no way i would ever use it. it's contracts and wire or fuck off in my world. ask anyone."

So what if Slavik did the same thing to you with a written contract? What exactly is the difference you ass clown?

if you could spend this energy gloating about domains you actually buy then it would be refreshing.

Fletch XXX · 05-25-2005, 06:48 PM

eight chars

XPays · 05-25-2005, 06:48 PM

btw- you should be banned for smearing slavik imho

pornstar2pac · 05-25-2005, 06:49 PM

word. up dom

JFK · 05-25-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Wrong. I do agree that honesty and integrity are esteeming qualities.

However, Bill Gates has no word and no integrity and not only is he the richest man in the world, he is also considered by many to be the most successful business man ever.

"has no word and no integrity " a fine way to live your life

you cant take the money with you.......

MaDalton · 05-25-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

very nice, ever gonna back there again?

i would love to - it was awesome. don't know if i could live there for more than a few months - but i definitely plan to spend some time in that area in the future.

DomBuyer · 05-25-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

The moral of the story is that slavik pays more than dombuyer. NEXT!

Wrong. I actually told AGA that if he at least given me the option of working something out AFTER GIVING HIS WORD TO ME AND THEN WELCHING, I might have been able to up my offer.

But you seem to miss the point: You operate under anything goes. I operate under: Once you give your word, you sell at that price--period.

You give yourself away not as a person of integrity, but someone who will do exactly what AGA did.

TDF · 05-25-2005, 06:51 PM

Evan Enjoys Being An Idiot

baddog · 05-25-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i was there - but it's spelled "Antigua"

I think he was talking about the video arcade, not the island

pornstar2pac · 05-25-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i would love to - it was awesome. don't know if i could live there for more than a few months - but i definitely plan to spend some time in that area in the future.

yeah, i worked for an online sportsbook an d had anyting i wanted there. after 2-3 months I just wanted to leave the island for a weekend. i sttill love it there. too bad Dombuyer has no respect

XPays · 05-25-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

Wrong. I actually told AGA that if he at least given me the option of working something out AFTER GIVING HIS WORD TO ME AND THEN WELCHING, I might have been able to up my offer.

But you seem to miss the point: You operate under anything goes. I operate under: Once you give your word, you sell at that price--period.

You give yourself away not as a person of integrity, but someone who will do exactly what AGA did.

why do you insist on accusing me of having no integrity for reserving the right to hear slavik's side prior to my final decision?

also, if aga did not give you a first right of refusal at least, then that is between you and him.

pointing fingers at me only makes you look like you are out for blood.

XPays · 05-25-2005, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TDF

Evan Enjoys Being An Idiot

It helps me appeal to the lowest common denominator sometimes.

I am an experienced idiot at least and not quite as emotional as some here in regards to biz.

XPays · 05-25-2005, 06:53 PM

Free NOFX!

pornstar2pac · 05-25-2005, 06:56 PM

Monique Niccole · 05-25-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

Evan, paying inadvertent attention to me just tells everyone you have a fetish with me. Why? Jealousy? What does this thread have to do with you?

You mean "inordinant attention"....

And I'm surprised that so many people other than you, slavik, and Lord Aga care.

SomeCreep · 05-25-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

Yup. Without your word, you're nothing. Slavik thought he could ignore me, I gave him plenty of time to deal with this privately and now I'm here laying out the facts. If you don't operate by your word, this thread won't appeal to you.

Are you a business man that deals with contracts, or someone who does all his business through "word" and promises?

You mention you had a contract with "Aga" to sell you the domain, but as I stated, it was within "Aga's" right to cancel the contract when he did. Now it sounds like you are pouting and throwing a tantrum, because you feel what happened was not fair. Well, what happened here was legal, hence fair in the business world.

Trixxxia · 05-25-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Wrong. I do agree that honesty and integrity are esteeming qualities.

However, Bill Gates has no word and no integrity and not only is he the richest man in the world, he is also considered by many to be the most successful business man ever.

Although what you say is true, it still doesn't negate the fact that he wasn't a man of his word (if he ever gave it) and had no integrity. A brilliant programmer will not go into his office and give him the next best operating system, bug free, without having confidentiality/copyright contracts & lawyers coming out of the wazoo. Would you trust that he won't screw you over with the next best deal? (although he's not as hungry now) I think not, but then again, people continue to surprise me

Lee · 05-25-2005, 07:00 PM

Slavik said he didnt know then you demanded it "back"?

Hmm...

Doctor Dre · 05-25-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

I asked him if he knew and he said "No".

I said "Now you know, and I want the domain I contracted to buy back"

Silence.

To me, that's the same as knowing.

What about if he's loosing money because of you ? He obviously got more since he backed off your offer . That wouldn't be fear for him to loose $ over something that's between you and aga .

DomBuyer · 05-25-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Are you a business man that deals with contracts, or someone who does all his business through "word" and promises?

You mention you had a contract with "Aga" to sell you the domain, but as I stated, it was within "Aga's" right to cancel the contract when he did. Now it sounds like you are pouting and throwing a tantrum, because you feel what happened was not fair. Well, what happened here was legal, hence fair in the business world.

Yes, he is totally within his rights to cancel the escrow.com contract. And I am within my rights to tell the world that his "word" means nothing, unlike with me and select others, where it means everything. The escrow is a formality.

MaDalton · 05-25-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

yeah, i worked for an online sportsbook an d had anyting i wanted there. after 2-3 months I just wanted to leave the island for a weekend. i sttill love it there. too bad Dombuyer has no respect

my first idea when i went there was to come back, go from island to island and make a photo book about rotting cars that were left next to the streets when they died. that was really amazing. sometimes there was just the motor and the axles left - the rest simply vanished.

XPays · 05-25-2005, 07:04 PM

quick question-

you embarassed and pantsed split infinity here and ended up getting your way. are you playing this in the hopes that slavik will sell you the domain now?

XPays · 05-25-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

Yes, he is totally within his rights to cancel the escrow.com contract. And I am within my rights to tell the world that his "word" means nothing, unlike with me and select others, where it means everything. The escrow is a formality.

then you owe slavik an apology and a retraction

ciao

DomBuyer · 05-25-2005, 07:07 PM

Don't get me wrong: going public virtually assures I will never get the name.

So what's my motive?

Simple: I don't give a shit who you are, if you give me your word and you did so of free will, you follow through, plain and simple, and I don't give a shit who you are, otherwise the system of relationships goes up in flames.

SomeCreep · 05-25-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia

Although what you say is true, it still doesn't negate the fact that he wasn't a man of his word (if he ever gave it) and had no integrity. A brilliant programmer will not go into his office and give him the next best operating system, bug free, without having confidentiality/copyright contracts & lawyers coming out of the wazoo. Would you trust that he won't screw you over with the next best deal? (although he's not as hungry now) I think not, but then again, people continue to surprise me

I would not trust Bill Gates with anything that wasnt legally stated and signed in a contract. I would expect him to be exactly who he is, a ruthless deceitful business man.

It should be stated, that when it comes to his personal life, he seems to have integrity and honesty, as I do not believe he has ever cheated on his wife. Who can say for sure though.

Steen2 · 05-25-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Are you a business man that deals with contracts, or someone who does all his business through "word" and promises?

You mention you had a contract with "Aga" to sell you the domain, but as I stated, it was within "Aga's" right to cancel the contract when he did. Now it sounds like you are pouting and throwing a tantrum, because you feel what happened was not fair. Well, what happened here was legal, hence fair in the business world.

In the United States (other areas may be similar) an oral agreement is just as binding as a writtin contract- just harder to prove.

Evan's comment about "F escrow.com, I do written contracts + wire only", legally would be no different than this situation. Only that the chosen method of payment was escrow.com.

Both were legally binding agreements.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. In fact, it could be completely incorrect!

Steen2 · 05-25-2005, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

I would not trust Bill Gates with anything that wasnt legally stated and signed in a contract. I would expect him to be exactly who he is, a ruthless deceitful business man.

It should be stated, that when it comes to his personal life, he seems to have integrity and honesty, as I do not believe he has ever cheated on his wife. Who can say for sure though.

Do you have some vendetta against Bill Gates? Unless by rare chance that you actually know him - I would imagine you are clueless as to his real business moves and decisions.

Doctor Dre · 05-25-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

What about if he's loosing money because of you ? He obviously got more since he backed off your offer . That wouldn't be fear for him to loose $ over something that's between you and aga .

I repeat my Q

Steen2 · 05-25-2005, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Steen2

In the United States...
...
Both were legally binding agreements.

DISCLAIMER

Having said that, I would be interested in Slavik's side of the the story is, and if he did know about DomBuyer's previous agreement in regard to dowload.com.

However this is really between three parties (maybe four? escrow.com).

$tandaman · 05-25-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steen2

In the United States (other areas may be similar) an oral agreement is just as binding as a writtin contract- just harder to prove.

Evan's comment about "F escrow.com, I do written contracts + wire only", legally would be no different than this situation. Only that the chosen method of payment was escrow.com.

Both were legally binding agreements.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. In fact, it could be completely incorrect!

That's right Steen, you are NOT a lawyer, if you were, you would know there is a limit of 500 in ny, over which the contract has to be in writing

and point 2: 'icq conversation' is NOT an oral agreement, thus it's not a contract.. as it can be faked.

Peaches · 05-25-2005, 07:36 PM

An oral contract is worth the paper it's written on.

And how is Slavik a bad guy in this??! That makes ZERO sense.

Doctor Dre · 05-25-2005, 07:37 PM

I repeat my question :

Slavik is loosing money if he hands it back to you . Because he obviously is loosing money on this . He got the domain so he paid more right ?

So why would he loose money over something he didn't know nothing about ?

The most honorable thing he could have done is sell it back to you for the price he paid ... but then that'd fuck him up ... and he probably don't owe you this kind of favor .

pornstar2pac · 05-25-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

my first idea when i went there was to come back, go from island to island and make a photo book about rotting cars that were left next to the streets when they died. that was really amazing. sometimes there was just the motor and the axles left - the rest simply vanished.

lol, you know the best roads in the world are in antigua right.........lollololollol

dig420 · 05-25-2005, 07:43 PM

Be damned if I can see how Slavik is at fault here.

Steen2 · 05-25-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

That's right Steen, you are NOT a lawyer, if you were, you would know there is a limit of 500 in ny, over which the contract has to be in writing

and point 2: 'icq conversation' is NOT an oral agreement, thus it's not a contract.. as it can be faked.

Could be right about the limit and the ICQ part. Are you an attorney?

DomBuyer · 05-25-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

An oral contract is worth the paper it's written on.

And how is Slavik a bad guy in this??! That makes ZERO sense.

I'm not going to spend the whole night rehashing what is in the thread. I'm going to bed.

My post is a warning to people that there are those that operate on their word and those that don't. Amongst the people that I do business with, it's simply unheard of to say "yes" to an escrow and agree and then default to sell to someone else.

I am particularly disappointed in Slavik. I gave him ample opportunity to explain his case to me and make good. He refused. His silence has spoken. I'm sorry that I won't be able to do business with him again.

For those of you who think "no harm no foul" please don't do business with me either.

Stacey_JoinRightNow · 05-25-2005, 07:59 PM

this is what i love about GFY, i learn a lot from cases like this...let's hear the side of slavik now

darnit · 05-25-2005, 08:02 PM

AGA:
"you have my word I own Netpond.com so you could always come and slag me off on my own board! lol.. hey.. would love for you to pop your head in every now and again.. its where webfather broke his teeth!"

I think you are posting on the wrong board

dig420 · 05-25-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacey_JoinRightNow

this is what i love about GFY, i learn a lot from cases like this...let's hear the side of slavik now

what does he have to say about it?

'Somebody offered me a domain. I bought it.'

End of story.

slapass · 05-25-2005, 08:18 PM

I guess I have to write Dombuyer off my list per his request as this thread is nuts. He is pissed at the wrong guy. Aga, backed out and i fully agree. Once you agree to the deal, you have to follow through. But no way in hell does the other guy owe you the domain. I know that you breathe different air then the rest of us so maybe it is thinner up there.....

SomeCreep · 05-25-2005, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Steen2

Do you have some vendetta against Bill Gates? Unless by rare chance that you actually know him - I would imagine you are clueless as to his real business moves and decisions.

Your posts are clueless.

pornstar2pac · 05-25-2005, 08:21 PM

I'm sorry about my previous posts. i am drunk

KRL · 05-25-2005, 08:21 PM

If there is one thing I've learned in all my years of business deals, its that you don't have a deal until the check clears.

Doctor Dre · 05-25-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

I'm not going to spend the whole night rehashing what is in the thread. I'm going to bed.

My post is a warning to people that there are those that operate on their word and those that don't. Amongst the people that I do business with, it's simply unheard of to say "yes" to an escrow and agree and then default to sell to someone else.

I am particularly disappointed in Slavik. I gave him ample opportunity to explain his case to me and make good. He refused. His silence has spoken. I'm sorry that I won't be able to do business with him again.

For those of you who think "no harm no foul" please don't do business with me either.

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

I repeat my question :

Slavik is loosing money if he hands it back to you . Because he obviously is loosing money on this . He got the domain so he paid more right ?

So why would he loose money over something he didn't know nothing about ?

The most honorable thing he could have done is sell it back to you for the price he paid ... but then that'd fuck him up ... and he probably don't owe you this kind of favor .

I don't think it's cool that he ignored you... but what about the question I keep asking ?

RichC · 05-25-2005, 08:34 PM

I'm not even sure Slavik is around this week, think he's outta town... pretty sad to see someone bring his name into to the mud, he's a 100% total stand up dude, always has been.

paxton · 05-25-2005, 08:46 PM

I think a lot of you are missing the point. In business, it's important not to alienate your customers, your partners, your associates, etc. Sometimes you have to step back and look at the big picture. One small deal of little financial consequence, might result in a big future loss if the deal pisses off someone you do business with. Of course, some people are unreasonable, overly demanding, and always creating headaches. In my opinion, DomBuyer is not one of these people. I have done multiple transactions with him and it has always gone smoothly and positively - a testament to him as a businessperson.

From what I read I do no think anyone was malicious or intentionally trying to stick a dagger in DB's back. And perhaps he is looking at the issue from a limited perspective. But he did let Aga and Slavik know he was upset and that he felt that a binding agreement had been reneged. He did not like the business practice, and gave them both a chance to remedy the situation. They didn't, and this thread was born. I don't necessarily agree with creating a public thread - but then again I operate differently.

I don't think this is a matter of technicalities, or even legalities. It's about keeping good standing with those whom you conduct business with. My

eddie-executive · 05-25-2005, 08:49 PM

woj · 05-25-2005, 08:49 PM

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05-25-2005, 07:04 PM	#74
XPays Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Inside the most accurately counting and reporting affiliate system in the world at XPays.com Posts: 13,002	quick question- you embarassed and pantsed split infinity here and ended up getting your way. are you playing this in the hopes that slavik will sell you the domain now? __________________ InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5 HuntingMoon GFY Domains Marketplace is LIVE XPays always pays! Top Site: * RealJasmine.com * + HotelHeiress® with The Paris Hilton Sex Video Insert the HotelHeiress® HD FEED into your members areas XPin.com Opening for Pin Partners Soonish Mainstream Offers For Emailers and DomainersNONADULT.COM Like Us!

05-25-2005, 07:07 PM	#76
DomBuyer Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Amalfi Coast Posts: 2,595	Don't get me wrong: going public virtually assures I will never get the name. So what's my motive? Simple: I don't give a shit who you are, if you give me your word and you did so of free will, you follow through, plain and simple, and I don't give a shit who you are, otherwise the system of relationships goes up in flames.

05-25-2005, 07:36 PM	#83
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	An oral contract is worth the paper it's written on. And how is Slavik a bad guy in this??! That makes ZERO sense.

05-25-2005, 07:43 PM	#86
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05-25-2005, 08:18 PM	#92
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	I guess I have to write Dombuyer off my list per his request as this thread is nuts. He is pissed at the wrong guy. Aga, backed out and i fully agree. Once you agree to the deal, you have to follow through. But no way in hell does the other guy owe you the domain. I know that you breathe different air then the rest of us so maybe it is thinner up there.....

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05-25-2005, 08:46 PM	#98
paxton Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,156	I think a lot of you are missing the point. In business, it's important not to alienate your customers, your partners, your associates, etc. Sometimes you have to step back and look at the big picture. One small deal of little financial consequence, might result in a big future loss if the deal pisses off someone you do business with. Of course, some people are unreasonable, overly demanding, and always creating headaches. In my opinion, DomBuyer is not one of these people. I have done multiple transactions with him and it has always gone smoothly and positively - a testament to him as a businessperson. From what I read I do no think anyone was malicious or intentionally trying to stick a dagger in DB's back. And perhaps he is looking at the issue from a limited perspective. But he did let Aga and Slavik know he was upset and that he felt that a binding agreement had been reneged. He did not like the business practice, and gave them both a chance to remedy the situation. They didn't, and this thread was born. I don't necessarily agree with creating a public thread - but then again I operate differently. I don't think this is a matter of technicalities, or even legalities. It's about keeping good standing with those whom you conduct business with. My __________________ Contact ICQ: 159141828

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