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Old 05-14-2005, 05:46 AM   #51
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Old 05-14-2005, 05:47 AM   #52
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Old 05-14-2005, 05:47 AM   #53
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Old 05-14-2005, 06:17 AM   #54
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I'm with the people wondering why you don't get invited, or invite yourself, along for a visit.

Try it and see what the reaction is. Then you'll know.

Good luck.
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Old 05-14-2005, 06:21 AM   #55
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Best bet is to hire a Private I and fnd out what they are doing
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Old 05-14-2005, 06:36 AM   #56
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I'm with the people wondering why you don't get invited, or invite yourself, along for a visit.

Try it and see what the reaction is. Then you'll know.

Good luck.
If you are a couple you see people together. This is good advice.

Nothing is goin gto kill your relationship faster tehn her hanging with some guy having fun and she knows you are home posting here.
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Old 05-14-2005, 07:36 AM   #57
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Best bet is to hire a Private I and fnd out what they are doing
Yeah, for a positive concrete answer.. though they'll only be able to tell you what they're doing at the time.. but if they walk around holding hands.. or something.. then blah.. yeah.

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Old 05-14-2005, 07:46 AM   #58
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ahhh, girls.. had something similar and sure enough after we break up, she dates the guy instantly after.. Then you wonder if they cheated blah blah blah..

Keep this in mind.. Girls are like monkeys, they dont let go of one branch until they have there hands on the next..

She's begining to grab her next branch.
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Old 05-14-2005, 07:53 AM   #59
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i was thinking the same..
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Old 05-14-2005, 07:57 AM   #60
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She's 18 and I'm basically the only guy she has been with (I'm 21). In these 3 years she has also never cheated on me and I know she never will.
Your confidence in her will be your downfall. The girl is only 18 years old for heavens sake. She might seem old and mature to a guy your age, but to anyone else older, who's been through that "18-25 age experience" stage, will tell you that you're in for a serious eye opener.

Don't feel bad. We all go through it at that young age...believing in crazy shit that we shouldn't be. It's part of life, part of personal growth and something we all experience one time or another.

As far as your girl: sounds to me like she's bored and craving some attention....but, not the kind of attention that you're thinking of. She's craving the kind of attention only a "new" person can give her. That feeling you get when discovering someone new, or someone coming back into her life. Just like how most relationships are great for the first few months cause it's new and then slowly sink into a dismal routine or breakup.

To put it simply bro, she's tired of repetition.

And her being tired of repetition, being 18, and hanging out with this guy is surely just the first step of what's to come. It could be a slow process, or a fast one. Know this though; she will deny it (they ALL deny it) and be completely offended if you asked her about him...until you find out later (sometimes years later as it's been mentioned by a few in this thread) that something did in fact happen, which it will.

And as far as her guy friend, that's simple. Either he's gay, or he's trying to get down her pants.
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Old 05-14-2005, 07:58 AM   #61
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I'm with the people wondering why you don't get invited, or invite yourself, along for a visit.

Try it and see what the reaction is. Then you'll know.

Good luck.
Yep exactly. If she makes excuses or isn't cool with you coming along a few times then she is up to something.

Couples get into little ruts of (less friendship & spending lots of time together) but when you start to branch back out to more friends you should do it as a couple.

How would she feel if you started to see another girl. And you saw this 'friend' twice a week. Would she accept that. I think not!

Good luck with your girl, hope it works out
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Old 05-14-2005, 08:02 AM   #62
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Go get a life of your own. Start going out with your own friends, start doing things, get your ass out of the house instead of as you said... "having too much time to THINK"
Enough with the sitting and thinking, time to act.

One of two things will happen.... Either she'll eventually become curious about what you're doing and she'll start to miss you, in which case she'll start wanting to be around you more.
Or.... she will move forward with... whatever it is she's doing already.

The last thing I would do is hand her ultimatums or try to weasel your way in to her time with "friends".... that would most likely annoy the shit out of her. I advise you to get yourself busy and start going out more, without her. See how she likes it. If it's meant to be, she'll come around.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

I totally agree with this post. I would take that advice if I were you.... It is the ONLY thing that you can do to fix this situation. PLEASE believe me on that.

And by the way, speaking as a 42 year old guy that has been through TONS of this stuff... you may eventually learn the hard way that "she would never cheat on me", is a really dumb statement.

STAY STRONG AND GET YOUR OWN LIFE....THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP A GIRL INTERESTED IN THIS TYPE OF SITUATION. Sitting around with no life is NOT attractive to women, they want a challenge, they want someone that is strong and secure, and they want someone that has a life of their own. Get active, and get a life.

Get to it.
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Old 05-14-2005, 08:04 AM   #63
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lol. like i said in my original post, I'm not worried of her cheating on me. I 100% know she wouldn't. She would tell me first if she were going to do something. She is the most stand up person a guy could ever meet. Not all women are alike.
lol all women are alike and all man have nothing in common with women other then fucking....
you are getting owned buddy...sorry
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Old 05-14-2005, 08:13 AM   #64
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Your confidence in her will be your downfall. The girl is only 18 years old for heavens sake. She might seem old and mature to a guy your age, but to anyone else older, who's been through that "18-25 age experience" stage, will tell you that you're in for a serious eye opener.

Don't feel bad. We all go through it at that young age...believing in crazy shit that we shouldn't be. It's part of life, part of personal growth and something we all experience one time or another.

As far as your girl: sounds to me like she's bored and craving some attention....but, not the kind of attention that you're thinking of. She's craving the kind of attention only a "new" person can give her. That feeling you get when discovering someone new, or someone coming back into her life. Just like how most relationships are great for the first few months cause it's new and then slowly sink into a dismal routine or breakup.

To put it simply bro, she's tired of repetition.

And her being tired of repetition, being 18, and hanging out with this guy is surely just the first step of what's to come. It could be a slow process, or a fast one. Know this though; she will deny it (they ALL deny it) and be completely offended if you asked her about him...until you find out later (sometimes years later as it's been mentioned by a few in this thread) that something did in fact happen, which it will.

And as far as her guy friend, that's simple. Either he's gay, or he's trying to get down her pants.

Perfect post! Thats wraps it all up. You hit the nail....
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Old 05-14-2005, 08:15 AM   #65
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She's cheating. No question. I think your days are numbered. Go out and find yourself someone new so you have a backdoor as well.
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Old 05-14-2005, 08:28 AM   #66
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And as far as her guy friend, that's simple. Either he's gay, or he's trying to get down her pants.
As a man I must say: This is true and we all know it. Men can't be *just* friends with women unless they're gay.
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I totally agree with this post. I would take that advice if I were you.... It is the ONLY thing that you can do to fix this situation. PLEASE believe me on that.

And by the way, speaking as a 42 year old guy that has been through TONS of this stuff... you may eventually learn the hard way that "she would never cheat on me", is a really dumb statement.

STAY STRONG AND GET YOUR OWN LIFE....THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP A GIRL INTERESTED IN THIS TYPE OF SITUATION. Sitting around with no life is NOT attractive to women, they want a challenge, they want someone that is strong and secure, and they want someone that has a life of their own. Get active, and get a life.

Get to it.
Listen to this old man. He knows what he's talking about. I have a woman now who keeps BEGGING me to invite her over and she even admitted to me that if I wasn't so nonchalant and indifferent to being around her, she wouldn't be so pressed to see me.

Women like it when you have other things to do besides being with them....

I had an 18 year old girlfriend that I knew since she was 16 and after living with me only three weeks, she was ALREADY tired of watching me sitting in front of the tv juggling my balls all day....It actually turned her on more when I got off my ass and at least went out to jog.

So listen to him. Get your own life and once she sees that you don't NEED her anymore, she'll get more interested. But as long as she knows that you'll be at home with your thumb up her ass waiting for her to get home, she'll keep doing what she's doing...If she knew that when she got home that you MIGHT NOT be there, that's when the fun begins.
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Old 05-14-2005, 08:53 AM   #68
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You know... being in this business fucks with your mind in the most bizarre ways... like cheating for example, when we think of cheating.. we dont just think kissing, hugging, maybe a hand job or two... we tend to go straight to the gutter with tripple anal fisting, gangbangs and baseball bats (or maybe its just me)

Dude, you know your girl better than anyone here, and you said in your post that you know she will never cheat on you. If she really does love you there should be no reason why you shouldn't be invited along with them.. show that other tosspot "man" whos the REAL man.. he's in YOUR territory now bro...
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She's 18 and I'm basically the only guy she has been with (I'm 21) - A lot of people say you should never carry on a serious relationship in hopes of marriage when one or the other has never been with anyone else -- I personally think that is bullshit. In these 3 years she has also never cheated on me and I know she never will.
Not to shit in your Cheerios, but I have yet to see one that has worked. I've had friends that has broken up, sold their house and everything, just because of it.
If it was 50 years ago, no problem. But nowadays people give up way too easy.

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Not to shit in your Cheerios, but I have yet to see one that has worked. I've had friends that has broken up, sold their house and everything, just because of it.
If it was 50 years ago, no problem. But nowadays people give up way too easy.
One of my good friends's parents met when they were 12 years old. They're now both in their late 50's and have never cheated on each other.

It does happen and is all the more sweeter when it does
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why dont you go out for a change and meet new friends.
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One of my good friends's parents met when they were 12 years old. They're now both in their late 50's and have never cheated on each other.

It does happen and is all the more sweeter when it does
Like I said. 50 years or so ago it happened. My parents met when they were under 18 and they're still together. Same with half of my friends parents and my ex parents.

But it ain't happening with our generation. Sure it happens, but it's very rare.
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From a girls point of view I am going to agree with what someone already said. She is needing attention, bottom line. You are not giving it to her, in the same way you used to anyway, and now she is going to get it somewhere else. I am not saying she is cheating, I don't think she is personally. I just think is probably doing some heay flirting and getting the attention she is craving.

I would suggest you get up and DO SOMETHING about it!!!! Don't be sitting around like a home body, girls want excitement! She is not even 21 yet and has not done the whole bar scene thing. Eventually she will just find you too boring and move on.

I think you can pull it together though, but you may have to really re-think some things. The one thing that girls love is a confident and secure man. The whole jealousy thing just does not work. If you want to drive her away then just start questioning her every move, that will do it.

Just start paying to attention to her, what she is wearing, how pretty she looks today. Take her OUT!!!! You flirt with her, do you flirt with her anymore?
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Its clear ,she is cheating on you now. Time to get a new girlfriend.

But dont stress, at 21, you enter in a total new meat market for girls ;)
You get second hand stuff, but they are setuped already.
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I'm a woman (obviously) and I can tell you right now where that situation is going. I know for a fact that unless a guy is gay, they aren't just friends with a woman without wanting to be with them sexually and/or date them.

She is bored and curious. She wants attention. I understand her not relating to other women... I'm pretty much the same way. Her intentions might be completely innocent and she might want just a friend to hang out with and talk, but let me tell you what that friendship will be like. This guy will prey on her vulnerabilities. He will plant seeds of doubt in your relationship with her. She will tell him about little things that bother her about you and the problems you 2 have. You might think you have a perfect relationship, but I'm sure there's things that bother her and she will confide in this guy. He will of course be on her side and make you seem completely wrong about everything. He will pretend to be the caring "friend" and listen to her etc.... he will give her the attention she craves from someone else and they will spend more and more time together.

You can cheat on a person emotionally as well as physically. What she is doing is borderline cheating. At least to me it is. How would she feel if you went out with a female friend a few times a week? What does it say about your relationship if both of you are going out with members of the opposite sex all the time? This is the beginning of the end my friend... I hate to say it. You're in denial right now. Even if this "friendship" she has with this guy ends, there will just be another "friend" in his place somewhere down the line. You can defend her and what she will do/say... but if you don't see the signs now, they will hit you a lot more when you realize what is happening.

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There's a pretty big chance of her cheating on you, and it's almost certain she's "cheating on you emotionally".

What that means? If she isn't fucking him yet, she's starting to have feelings for the other guy, and is building up to either cheat on you or break up with you and start a relationship with him.

Unless the other guy fucks up, you're pretty much screwed. And even if he does screw up, you're still probably pretty much screwed.
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feel: i'd feel shitty ( like you do )

react: i'd ask her to stop seeing him or atleast invite you when they get together !
if she doesn't..time to move on....tell yourself this it's her loss not yours.
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She's cheating on you.... Believe me.... The same thing happened to me 2 months ago....

I'm still hurt....

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I'm a woman (obviously) and I can tell you right now where that situation is going. I know for a fact that unless a guy is gay, they aren't just friends with a woman without wanting to be with them sexually and/or date them.

She is bored and curious. She wants attention. I understand her not relating to other women... I'm pretty much the same way. Her intentions might be completely innocent and she might want just a friend to hang out with and talk, but let me tell you what that friendship will be like. This guy will prey on her vulnerabilities. He will plant seeds of doubt in your relationship with her. She will tell him about little things that bother her about you and the problems you 2 have. You might think you have a perfect relationship, but I'm sure there's things that bother her and she will confide in this guy. He will of course be on her side and make you seem completely wrong about everything. He will pretend to be the caring "friend" and listen to her etc.... he will give her the attention she craves from someone else and they will spend more and more time together.

You can cheat on a person emotionally as well as physically. What she is doing is borderline cheating. At least to me it is. How would she feel if you went out with a female friend a few times a week? What does it say about your relationship if both of you are going out with members of the opposite sex all the time? This is the beginning of the end my friend... I hate to say it. You're in denial right now. Even if this "friendship" she has with this guy ends, there will just be another "friend" in his place somewhere down the line. You can defend her and what she will do/say... but if you don't see the signs now, they will hit you a lot more when you realize what is happening.

Good luck.

You are so right, it's scary. This is one of the few times I can say that a blanket statement is true.
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I've been w/ my gf for 3 years now, and we kinda did what some couples do n' really stop hangin out w/ their friends from like 100% of the time down to 5%... All of her friends were guys, because aside from her 2 sisters, she grew up around guys cause her cousins / neighbors were all guys etc... so she's never been able to relate w/ girls too much.

Well recently she's been getting sick of our "routine" and one of her old guy friends called her up recently. Now this particular guy is one she happened to mention of something like this before, "Well ask all of the girl's in Warren what they think of him" (referring to him being attractive) -- that irked me at the time but later on she told me she only said it to get me mad... She also dated him when they were young like 13 yrs old, so obviously what she said had some basis behind it.

So he got in contact w/ her and they hung out recently, that didn't really bother me all that much cause I understand old friends get together from time to time to "catch up"... But now she's hanging out with him more consistently like a couple times a week n' she swears it's just because she has no other friends and it's nice to be able to do something "else" (because we're with each other every day).

Now here is the problem... Aside from lifting partners I really don't go out and socialize with people (most of my friends have been away for several years at college)... So having been through the same routine, for these three years, and NOW dealing with this change (however small it may seem) - psychologically it feels like a big change. I'm sitting at home when I'd like to be with her, when she's "hanging out" with her friends (well, friend - that particular guy)... So having the time to myself, I naturally begin to ....THINK, which is bad, because then I end up materializing scenarios based on the shit i know of this particular guy and get myself wound up, and lately it has made me pretty irritable. I try to not think about it by running miles on end and lifting hard, but that is just a temporary fix.

She's 18 and I'm basically the only guy she has been with (I'm 21) - A lot of people say you should never carry on a serious relationship in hopes of marriage when one or the other has never been with anyone else -- I personally think that is bullshit. In these 3 years she has also never cheated on me and I know she never will.

So keeping in mind that you know you can't take the route of being the "CONTROLLING BOYFRIEND" (because I would never do that), how would you react/feel in a situation like this? I want to know if how I'm feeling is result of my own ignorance and/or insecurities, or if this is something that would bother most other guys as well.

(sorry, I tried to keep it short ;))




It's done, move on.



She's 18 dude. There is almost no chance you will stay together without her wanting to try something else.
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Yeah there is. My close friend, Julie, and I are friends and don't fuck around. I dated her for 3 years already. Also, she is friends with this black cop I know and they haven't fucked or anything.



Females can have male friends.
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Old 05-14-2005, 12:10 PM   #83
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Females can have male friends.
Yes, but males can't have female friends. There might be a few exceptions to the rule if a male already has a partne, but in general, men are weak and have the urge to conquer as much pussy as possible.

It's not her he should worry about, it's that other guy he should be worried about.

A smile leads to a touch, a touch leads to a quick kiss nearly touching the lips when saying goodbye, a quick kiss leads to a small soft kiss on the lips when they're both having wine, a small soft kiss leads to a frenchy and so on and so on.

We've all been there before and we all know how easy temptation is, especially for men.
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Old 05-14-2005, 12:54 PM   #85
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Every young man felt this way about a girl at one point, and then he was forced to grow up.
true.......
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Keep this in mind.. Girls are like monkeys, they dont let go of one branch until they have there hands on the next..
Hahaha.. nice...
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lol. like i said in my original post, I'm not worried of her cheating on me. I 100% know she wouldn't. She would tell me first if she were going to do something. She is the most stand up person a guy could ever meet. Not all women are alike.
Sounds very much like she is cheating on you ... don't be blind bud ... she wouldn't tell you after 3 years .
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if you cant trust her around another guy, you shouldnt be with her (and vice versa).
you say you "know" shes not cheating on you, but you're worried that she *is* cheaing on you...

..you're 21 yrs old, go out every weekend & get fucked up at clubs, have some 1 night stands, live life! And if shes 18 yrs old, you will NOT be the only person she sleeps with, guarenteed!
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Loss of interest in you "routine" usually signals that she cheated on you. Sorry dude...its only a matter of weeks before its officially over. Your better off anyways...your too young.
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As a female who has had strictly platonic male friendships in the past (and still do) I have one piece of advice for you. Find yourself one specific female friend (preferably an old friend) and start hanging out with her a couple of times a week. If your girlfriend gets upset about the idea of you hanging out with this girl, most likely it's because she's questioning her own motives. If she sees no problem with you hanging out with a member of the opposite sex on a regular basis, most likely it's because her intentions with this guyfriend of hers are strictly based on friendship, and you have nothing to worry about.

Oh, and I'd also have to agree that the fact that she has not invited you to hang out with her and her guyfriend is a little suspicious. My boyfriend/husband was/is ALWAYS invited to come along whenever I would go see my guyfriends. Sometimes he would decline, but the invitation was always open.
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You can't make sense out of 18yr old's... move on. It's over, sorry man... I've also been there.
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I'm a woman (obviously) and I can tell you right now where that situation is going. I know for a fact that unless a guy is gay, they aren't just friends with a woman without wanting to be with them sexually and/or date them.
I have female friends and have had in the past and you can be just friends with them. Of course you always wonder what they look like underneath all those clothes and you tend to end up in bed with them sooner or later, but only as a friend though

So I guess you are 100% correct
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You and Reddd are on the money.
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Start dating a stripper, her tune will change.

But you are too young to understand such things....I know I was at 21 haha
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Ignore everything else and think about this for a minute. she hasnt nor will she cheat on you so you think. Who cares if she has male/female friends and goes out with them every now and then.


There is a reasonable limit to the amount of time someone should spend with someone else. There is a difference in once and a while vs. a few times a week. If you want to talk to her about it just say something like "I dont mind you spending time with your friends but dont you think you've been spending a little too much time with this one guy?" This way you dont come off as a jealous/possessive BF, shes still allowed to spend time with friends and but gets the hint that you might have a problem with the amount of time spent with him.

You can "test" her out... what i would do is not try to initiate sex with her for a while and see how long it takes before she comes to you for sex. Chances are if shes fucking someone else shes not going to be as interested in sex as she once was.

Quite honestly, i would have a problem with my GF spending THAT much time with an ex boyfriend.

what he said^^^^

sit her down and tell her how you are feeling. If she's as stand up as u sy she is then she'll agree with you and understand. If she gets offended then you have a problem.

I was the same way growing up as a kid. It is harder to relate to women when you're surrounded by men all the time but it's not impossible. Don't you have mutual friends or couples that you can hang out with that way you get to spend time together but have a change in the environment?
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Tell her to defend herself on GFY. We'll get to the bottom of it or at least let her know she's fucking up.

What it all boils down to is that she is obviously causing you stress. Whether or not she's actually cheated on you yet she shouldn't be doing things that get you wound up like that. Let her know.
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Tell her to defend herself on GFY. We'll get to the bottom of it or at least let her know she's fucking up.
YEAH!! We want some real Jerry Springer action.
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lol. like i said in my original post, I'm not worried of her cheating on me. I 100% know she wouldn't. She would tell me first if she were going to do something. She is the most stand up person a guy could ever meet. Not all women are alike.
You're a little (ok, a lot) naive.
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haha. well everything is fine. talked w/ her and she was really able to set my mind at ease with all of it. the night i started this thread i was all worked up and was over analyzing things - you bastards didn't help one bit, either lol. but i kind of expected those sorts of negative responses, coming from an adult wmboard.

he really is her only friend outside of me because she was homeschooled and always moved places -- and the "relationship" they had was very brief when they were 13 (she broke up w/ him because he wanted to have sex w/ her lol) and they were able to remain good friends even after that. so i'm not worried in the slightest, she doesn't see herself hangin out more than once, at the most twice a week when she gets bored during the summer and im working.

i see it like this, we've had a really great relationship with no problems for 3 years, i have no reason to get worried over something like this now that we've talked about it. i WOULD be worried if it seemed like she was drifting away from me, but she isn't at all - we're stronger than ever.
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