Gary

huh

cha-ching!

RussianMaster

Gary, take those 20 bucks!!!

I want my 10 bucks (50%) from that!

Kimmykim

in·cog·ni·to (nkg-nt, n-kgn-t)
adv. & adj.
With one's identity disguised or concealed.

n. pl. in·cog·ni·tos
One whose identity is disguised or concealed.
The condition of having a disguised or concealed identity.
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Therefore it stands to reason that 12clicks wouldn't even know what those programs were and therefore wouldn't even be in them.

Gary

Actually, who are you? Wait, better question, should i care who you are?

In case your wondering, i already know the answer.

cha-ching!

Incognito

May be he is?
May be his real name is Ivan Petrovich Twelweclickov-Ohuevshiy?

ElvisManson

Russian Master,

As a guy that runs an Affiliate program i can tell you from personal experience that with ONE exception every Russian WM that I have had in my program has tried to cheat in one way or another. Whether it is because they don't take the time to read the TOS that are posted on the WM sign up page or because they are actively trying to cheat my program doesn't matter to me.

A Cheater is a Cheater is a Cheater.

Russia is not the only banned country on my list. There are lots more.



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Incognito

Gary, just fetch Your bone.
This 20$ aint gonna be here for You forever.

RussianMaster

Hmm... Great idea, i didn't think about it before. This is very very possible. I believe Mr. Zigmund Freid was talking about such people, who afraid to be threatened because of their race (or other thing) and become the worst assholes who threat it.

I think you are on the right way.

But i guess Twelchikov-Ohuevshiy is too long name for such jerk. I guess it's more possible his name something like Ivan Petrovich Dvennadcatihueviy.

Sounds real i guess.

Gary

Its funny you keep mentioning 20 bucks. Is that how much you need to buy toilet paper? so you can stop using your hand?

RussianMaster

Incognito, please give those 20 bucks to me. I'll put it in the program of 12clicks, money will work for me and I'll get 21 bucks back in 2 or 3 years. 12clicks, I guess it's possible???

RussianMaster

For Elvis.

Man, solid and professional Russian Webmasters work only with those foreign sponsors who are able to be in touch with (like Cyberage, offshoreclicks and others) and possible to solve problems.

May be there is also your fault that you got so much cheaters from Russia?

You might get few kids in your programm (i explained who are those kids in my first post), they tryed to cheat you and you banned them. And you might after that ban few honest Russian Webmasters and that got bad reputation for you in our community. This is more than possible. There is no your fault in this situation, as well this doesn't mean that 90% of Russian Webmasters cheaters. You can solve it easily, just come to our board (for example) and tell to all Russian Webmasters what you like and what you don't. This is more than ok.

And about the kids who try to cheat you and others. Those kids will be for in this biz for years, because it is a high-profitable biz and they believe it's possible to get some money by cheating. Those kids may be from Russia, Chinese, German, France, England or even US. From any Country. Yeah, it's the fact that you get those cheating kids from Russia more than from any other country, but that doesn't mean you should call all (or almost all) Russian Webmasters cheaters, right?

nastradamus

2 12clicks

ye you are so funny ...
Banned american with russian name ...
Okey so what WE need to do now (russian pay-sites owners and just typical WMs) ???
To ban all russians with John name... or to stop work with anyone from you ...
do you understand that the biggest part of us are real and experience WMs...
And somebody of us make much more money than you one working just as advertisers...

So, can you explain to all of us, why you are so agressive....
Can you promice that nobody from your country never cheated ??? Think that no ...


So.... be happy banning russians
but anyway your name will be posted here as a general cheater's nick May be not tommorow , but be careful

Do you remember the story about SNOW DIALER ??

12clicks

haha, like there's such thing as a russian program that pays.

Gary

LOL

Ya, its called "will work for bread"

nastradamus

and there are too much of them...
you thought that ARS is yours ???
NO ... IT'S OUR
And we baned you
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Russian Masters Syndicate ....

RussianMaster

Yeah, there are such programs. Not for you, though.

Gary

Oh well, i can live without Rubbles.

ElvisManson

Quote "with ONE exception every Russian WM that I have had in my program has tried to cheat" End Quote

Not just a few...and the age of a cheater is of no importance to me.

I had a look at the board you were talking about in your original post and I am not particularly inclined to be remotely friendly to anyone that promotes or accepts rape sites as you do.

That would be breaking my TOS



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nastradamus

we too ,,,,

Gary

Watch it Elvis, you'll get yourself banned from russian programs.

ElvisManson

Smoking crack is going to hurt you....lol



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RussianMaster

12clicks, we are ready to let you join our programs again (and may be even get paid) if you fall on the knees and ask for forgiveness.

Stop, stop, stop...

Do not fall yet, that's not all

You should also take Russian flag in your hand, wear uniform of Russian army, come to the Russian Embassy and ask for the political asylum.

Now you can start doing this... report as soon as you do all of those things at least 5 times.

Incognito

Man , gonna use your hand if You not gonna fetch that bone. Stop fighting Yourself. Just do it.
It's 20$ for 12Clicks sake!!!

ElvisManson

Don't you mean baned?



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RussianMaster

Elvis, don't pay attention. Gary doesn't really know what he means.

About Russian cheaters in your program again. You got some cheaters in the beginning, after that you stopped accepting webmasters from Russia. Who of the experienced webmasters was going to work with you after that if you don't accept us? I guess nobody. Only kids who trying get some money. They are not adult webmaster, they "work" in it for few days and drop it. That's not reason to call all Russian Adult Webmasters cheaters.

Incognito

But of course there's a russian program which pays but I just banned You from it.

RussianMaster

Do not forget to ban also 12dicks! That's his another private nickname.

hm... ouch... i probably give out some secret

Incognito

Not without toilet paper though.

Unless You still using that hand of Yours.
Now stop it. I got a perfect little bone here. 20$ for it. Go and get it and buy some papers for 12Clicks sake! Stop using hands GARY!!!

Kimmykim

Hey but don't forget that program is incognito so how would you know...

Does ANY program let Russians in?

Kimmykim

cheat (cht)
v. cheat·ed, cheat·ing, cheats
v. tr.
To deceive by trickery; swindle: cheated customers by overcharging them for purchases.
To deprive by trickery; defraud: cheated them of their land.
To mislead; fool: illusions that cheat the eye.
To elude; escape: cheat death.

v. intr.
To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.
Informal. To be sexually unfaithful: cheat on a spouse.

n.
An act of cheating; a fraud or swindle.
One who cheats; a swindler.
Law. Fraudulent acquisition of another's property.
Botany. An annual European species of brome grass (Bromus secalinus) widely naturalized in temperate regions.

12clicks

christ, is this what passes for russian humor?

guys, stick to stealing, something you're good at.

RussianMaster

Do what we are good at?

Man, we are doing that on the daytime (making money by hard and HONEST work) and we are doing that in the night with our girls. You would better check if your girls still with you, because we are relly good in those night things and your chicks might be on the way to us. We'll take them all.

12clicks, check out where is your girlfriend.

Gary

Ugh, learn english or stick to your russian cheat boards please.

RussianMaster

LOL. Man, if you DO NOT LIKE what i write that doesn't mean it was written in the bad english.

P.S. Btw, you have bad memory. That was you who started those "games" and you asked me to write something for you, so you can get new Ferrari. You don't want Ferrari anymore? Did I hurt you so much? Don't cry, this is not the worst.

nastradamus

why do you think he has one ???
may be he is sleeping with a boyfriend

Kimmykim

Oh yes it does.

RussianMaster

Kimmy, it's just my Russian accent.

P.S. I'll be away for 20-30 minutes or so. Don't miss me.

Kimmykim

No worries there.

Gary

Gotta hit the bread line? UN sending in some wheat?

Incognito

Gary was indeed a Russian?
Fucking cool.


Gary! You heard the man! Stick to stealing! STEAL THAT BONE! AND I GIVE YOU 20 A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N DOLLARS!!!

Gary

Like you have 20 bucks.

Kimmykim

You ever heard of Monopoly, Gary? Parker Bros?

Gary

Thats right, i forgot that passes as currency over there.

Incognito

Hehe...finally working...so, Gary, interested already?

Kimmykim

Indeed.

Incognito

No really guys.
I like GofuckYourself.

Just dont like 12Clicks personally. What used to be a joke 4 years ago seems to become an obsession for this man.

Seriously.

You can like us Russians or dislike - it's Your fucking choice after all. Work with us or not, Your programs or billing companies after all.
Post a list of banned countries and that's it. Should be more than enough.

Just dont go on public crying ALL RUSSIANS ARE CHEATERS cause it's stupid and not serious or professional.

Really.
Otherwise than that GFY.

RussianMaster

Ok, guys, I'm back.

Now serious.

Let's stop those jokes. We can always find time for jokes, but somehow it's oftenly harder to find time for business and helping each other.

Once again, i state that we (Russian Adult Webmasters community) ready to help you with your Russian cheaters. Feel free to report us guys from Russia who cheat you and we'll try to help get them punished. If you go with it to us (not to FBI or something like that) you have MUCH more chances to get this problems solved.

And I'll tell you this once again, we do NOT want you get cheated by Russian webmasters even more than you don't want it. Our good reputation worths a lot for us and we want to help you with those assholes who make bad reputation for us. Ask for help - and you'll get it.

Ask for help or just talk to us here http://www.crutop.nu/ubb/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=ENGLISH+CHAT! &number=11&DaysPrune=45&LastLogin=

Good luck guys!

Was nice to joke with you.

[This message has been edited by RussianMaster (edited 11-30-2001).]

evilpavel

Winter (RussianMaster) made great points for you to realize that you got some Russian kids in you program and they are cheating.. it would be same shit to having some American kids in your program and they will cheat you in the same way.. please don't tell me that you've never kicked some US asshole from you program..
None (yes 0) of the guys i know from Crutop board (Russianmaster gave a link) are trying to cheat someone.

no reason for me to tell everything that Russianmaster said before once again.

as for 12dicks... get some vitamins, relax.. no one in good mind would use you program again.. get real.. you've made your reputation.
so stop fucking bull shiting on this board.

[This message has been edited by evilpavel (edited 11-30-2001).]

Kimmykim

You mean everything after that wasn't a joke?

12clicks

did I mention all russians are thieves?