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chase 12-28-2004 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Having fucked people out of what, $15k ? Sarah should get the "Best con artist of 2004" award.

DJ, with all due respect, did you read the entire thread?
Her husband knew about her lover...he was in bad shape from an accident. She cared for his every need, and he supported her needs being met by someone who could do so. That really does change the context of the situation from what I think you are perceiving it as..

sextoyking 12-28-2004 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Having fucked people out of what, $15k ? Sarah should get the "Best con artist of 2004" award.

Are you seriously implying that Sarah somehow "stole", cheated, lied, etc to get those donations that were given to her?

I just want you to clarify your public statement there so I know what were dealing with.

I take slander very seriously.

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Glad you feel that way. It is my opinion that you are a dumbass.

Good for you. Maybe if you ever demonstrated any sign of intelligent thought I may take that as an insult, but since you have not, I'm not to worried. :glugglug

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chase
While I admit it is an extreme example...this sounds to me like people claiming a woman deserved to get raped because she was walking down the street alone, at night, and in a short skirt....because she put herself in that situation. And even though it may be wrong for the rapist to take advantage of her doing so, she should have known that was going to happen and she should accept it because she put herself in that situation.
And that, my friend, is a very disturbing attitude.

You are right in your example, however you are tying to compare apples and oranges.

If a woman dresses in whatever way she wants and walks anywhere she wants, she should not be raped because it is against the law (against the law because its a disgusting thing to do), period.

If somebody post on a message board then, HELLO, they are going to get responces and not all of them will be positive. It is their right to post whatever they want and to live however they want, just as it is the responder's right to respond in whatever way they feel is right.

What I find to be a more disturbing attitude is the fact that people seem to think that the speech of those who disagree with Sarah's actions should be censored simply because they do not agree with them, and that attitude seems to be the more widely accepted one.

Nobody here is right or wrong, but they all have a right to their opinions on the matter, it is not rape we are talking about.

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven
Why does it put her in a position for people to comment?

Are you saying the money had strings attached?

Because it is a public message board, anything said here by anybody puts the poster in position for comment.

As far as the money, maybe it did. I personally did not donate any money but after reading some of the threads recently I can understand how some people who did donate may feel they were duped by doing so.

Put yourself in this mindframe and think from the other perspective for a moment:

Some people honestly cannot understand how anybody who has just suffered this kind of loss could be so free and liberal, so soon afterwards. Not being about to understand this logicially makes them believe that no loss was suffered and they had been taken advantage of in a con.

Some people are more liberal than others and see nothing wrong with this action or the way Sarah has handled the situation so they do not think any wrong was commited.

To me, both reactions are understandable.

I'm not saying if it did happen or not, I don't know Sarah personally and I was not there so I have no idea. From what I know of Sarah she is a very good and sweet person and I doubt she would lie about something like that. But I can understand how some would question it.

chemicaleyes 12-28-2004 12:38 PM

Thomas Jefferson what's your real username here?
If you created it just to reply to this thread, you must be a very sad and lonely person. Go out and get a life.

LadyMischief 12-28-2004 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe
As someone who help raise some money for Sarah I have to say that while it does surprise me that she would be fucking someone not more than a month after her husband died I personally don't give a flying fuck...

Would it be better for her to go find comfort in an 8ball of cocaine? Would it be better for her to drown out her sorrow with anti-depressants and a bottle of JD?

Maybe this guy she fucked was close with her and her husband, someone whom they were both close to and shared a lot of good memories with...Maybe Sarah was having 3somes with them, either way what business is it of yours? Really?

Sarah has already proven her love for her husband by taking care of him and all the problems he had since he was hit by a drunk driver, when almost all others would have split.

How many of you idiots would still be there for your spouse if they became totally dependant on you for even the most basic things such as going to the washroom? Yeah, that?s what I thought. If that isn?t love then I don?t know what is.


Amen.. If any of the assholes around here knew what Sarah went through every day to take care of her husband, who was in a wheelchair and very ill, they would shut the fuck up. None of them would have the courage to do that, not even for a second. And having met Sarah and her husband, seeing them look into each other's eyes and the love and absolute adoration there, there's no way I could doubt even for one moment that Sarah loved her husband more than any of these two bit useless idiots even know is possible to love someone.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-28-2004 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Having fucked people out of what, $15k ? Sarah should get the "Best con artist of 2004" award.


You actually think it is all a facade?

Cyndalie 12-28-2004 12:49 PM

Sarah has no reason to explain herself to strangers who may care but not understand her situation in life or emotional state. Under so much pain and duress, especially at this time of year, if she needed to reach out to a caring friend, she knows in her heart what is right. Who are we to question the needs and actions of others we barely know? The greif must be unbearable. Who knows how any of us would hold up under the same circumstances? I can only hope that she finds the strength to hold on and find more reasons life is work living for. I know if I left my husband behind I would rather he reach out to a caring friend he can both console in and find confort in sharing intimacy with rather than a stranger who wouldn't give a fuck about him when all is said and done and he is left with guilt and even more pain. It is my feeling that Sarah, in her own way, is honoring his memory by continuing to do what feels right and best for her - from my distant point of view it seems to be something that he would have understood. This is a time to be supportive, not judemental. I feel sorry that some here cannot understand (even if they do not agree) that sex can be theraputic and healthy when you are both careful and conscious of the decisions you make. Life Strong Sarah. Don't take any of this BS to heart. Only you know what is best for you. Live for it - we all know life is too short not to.

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chemicaleyes
Thomas Jefferson what's your real username here?
If you created it just to reply to this thread, you must be a very sad and lonely person. Go out and get a life.

Since your don't seem to be to eager to read the entire thread to get all of the revelant facts, this is my GFY name.

I have said nothing that I find offensive to Sarah here, why should I have to hide who I am?

Is it really that offensive to you that I can possibly see and understand both sides of the issue? If that is the case then I'd have to say your the one who is truely sad and lonely.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-28-2004 12:58 PM

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Now the trolls and multiple Handles come out...

Fuck this what a waist of time.

Click my sig you drama fags...

SmokeyTheBear 12-28-2004 12:58 PM

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-28-2004 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
lol this thread has 6300 views :)

Exactly...
Fake fuck handles post below from here on out!
Have at it!

SmokeyTheBear 12-28-2004 01:01 PM

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-28-2004 01:02 PM

Set post bots to auto reply lets see if we can get them to debate this further:)

emthree 12-28-2004 01:14 PM

There's some twisted fucks in this thread.
Some of which I would have never seen, if it wasent for this thread. :eek7

baddog 12-28-2004 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Having fucked people out of what, $15k ? Sarah should get the "Best con artist of 2004" award.


Fuck you, she didn't con anyone out if anything you dipshit

baddog 12-28-2004 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
I have said nothing that I find offensive to Sarah here, why should I have to hide who I am?


What was your name before GFY version 3 lost you?

Ron 12-28-2004 01:37 PM

Sheesh, this thread still going on?

Is it really that important for some people that it keeps them busy??

11 years ago i saw my dad died from cancer. 2 weeks later my gilrfriend died by a ar accident..
4 weeks later i had sex again... did that mean i didnt had pain anymore?? No, but at that moment it made me feel a little better, but the pain whas still there.
You can't say anything about it when you never whas there.. some start to drink, some start to use drugs, some start to use both and some have sex sometimes with their best friend.. whats worse? I dont judge people what they do. People who are in emotional crisis do things to make them feel better... no matter what they choose, its their choice.

And about the money... maybe its me, but i cant find in any thread, that sarah asked for any money. People donated money from themself, because they choosed to do.

Before you start take a walk im other peoples world, you better take a look at the real world.

Regards

chemicaleyes 12-28-2004 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
Since your don't seem to be to eager to read the entire thread to get all of the revelant facts, this is my GFY name.

I have said nothing that I find offensive to Sarah here, why should I have to hide who I am?

Is it really that offensive to you that I can possibly see and understand both sides of the issue? If that is the case then I'd have to say your the one who is truely sad and lonely.

lol - I read your posts earlier:

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
I've been a member of this board for several years, never posted a lot to begin with. But my account was some how deleted when the change to 3.0 was made so instead of tying to get it resolved I just decided to start over again with a new account.

And Yes intro threads are a waste of time and space. :eatmouse

So as I said you must be a pathetic individual as you created this account just to come in to this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
What was your name before GFY version 3 lost you?


Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chemicaleyes
So as I said you must be a pathetic individual as you created this account just to come in to this thread.


Check my registration date smart guy, now lets compare it to the date this thread started.

:xmas-smil

mardigras 12-28-2004 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
What was your name before GFY version 3 lost you?

He's already refused to answer that.

European Lee 12-28-2004 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
Check my registration date smart guy, now lets compare it to the date this thread started.

:xmas-smil

December 2004.

Regards,

Lee

mardigras 12-28-2004 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Fuck you, she didn't con anyone out if anything you dipshit

Aw baddog don't you get it? Say I gave you a Christmas present and later I got upset with you. You fucked me out of a Christmas present. Don't you see how that works?:winkwink:

chemicaleyes 12-28-2004 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
Check my registration date smart guy, now lets compare it to the date this thread started.

:xmas-smil

Join Date: 12-27-2004 - thread started same day - next.

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras
He's already refused to answer that.

What relevance does it have to this discussion?

I have already proven that I registered before this thread was ever in existence, thus proving I did not simply register to post in this thread.

As far as anything else, I have never had any interaction, positive or negative, with Baddog at any time we have both been a part of this board.

Now instead of uselessly trying to attack me for the crime of, O' MY GOD, registering a few days ago, why not actually point out what it is that I said that is so wrong and offensive.

I simply pointed out this is a public forum, all opinions are expected to be expressed, and all are entitled to them. And that I could understand both sides of the argument and why some people may be upset and others are not.

I have also made an attempt to make sure I was not directing any negativity towards Sarah because I do believe she is going through a hard time and I have had nothing but nice things to say about her.

So what have I done that is so wrong?

I Like Chocolate 12-28-2004 02:06 PM

surprised this thread is still going

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chemicaleyes
Join Date: 12-27-2004 - thread started same day - next.

I have not seen this thread until this morning. Where do you get it was started several days ago?

BTW if this is all you have to argue about, maybe your the one who needs a life.

benzo8 12-28-2004 02:08 PM

Before I start, this is my first post to GFY. I have registered specifically to make it. Let me explain:

Unlike almost everyone posting on this thread, I *do* know Sarah personally, and I knew Marc before he and she were just a whirlwind in an IRC channel. So I know a lot of things that everyone else here doesn't.

For instance, I know that the only thing that mattered to Marc was Sarah's happiness - however she found it.
Maybe some of you want your partner to grieve and be miserable after your death but to me that's just selfishness, and Marc was the most unselfish person I ever knew.

I know that Sarah didn't ask GFY for money, but that she needs it as much now as she did before she posted in a moment of lightheartedness, and that she was touched to her heart when she learned a collection was being made on her behalf.
Maybe you think she ripped you off but then, what's this? You only wanted your money to go to a miserable grieving widow? A happy widow not good enough for you? Hmmm - I'm beginning to see a pattern here...

I also know that having sex and making love are two different things. I'd hope everyone who worked in the sex industry knew that, but apparently, no.
Maybe you think "getting off" equates to "getting over". But then maybe you really need to get off more now, before you yourself have deal with "getting over".

And finally, I know that opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one but you just look like an idiot displaying it in public.
And maybe you think that includes me. But now, having aired mine, I'll go to bed remembering the great friend I had for 20 years who died far too soon.

I wonder what you'll all think about, having aired yours.

Rhino22 12-28-2004 02:09 PM

Wow, this thread just blew up. Even on a sex board, sex sells :)

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chemicaleyes
Join Date: 12-27-2004 - thread started same day - next.


BTW My join date is actually 12/16. Nice try though. :)

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
BTW My join date is actually 12/16. Nice try though. :)

That should say 12/26.

chemicaleyes 12-28-2004 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
I have not seen this thread until this morning. Where do you get it was started several days ago?

BTW if this is all you have to argue about, maybe your the one who needs a life.

Where did I say the thread started several day ago, learn to read!

"Join Date: 12-27-2004 - thread started same day - next."

chemicaleyes 12-28-2004 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
That should say 12/26.

okay clever one, click on "Thomas Jefferson" the click "view public profile" and you will see: Join Date: 12-27-2004

Fatalspeed 12-28-2004 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
That should say 12/26.

no offence but in your profile it says Join Date: 12-27-2004" and I DID see you making your first post in this thread.
I dont care who you are but atleast dont say you registered before.

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chemicaleyes
Where did I say the thread started several day ago, learn to read!

"Join Date: 12-27-2004 - thread started same day - next."

Join date again is 12/26, but seeing as how you can read so well I guess I didn't need to correct you.

Today is the 28th, saying the thread started the same day as I registered, well that would be several day ago.

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chemicaleyes
okay clever one, click on "Thomas Jefferson" the click "view public profile" and you will see: Join Date: 12-27-2004

I have clicked it, and it says 12-26-2004.

Maybe it shows a relative date as your in Europe?

chemicaleyes 12-28-2004 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
Join date again is 12/26, but seeing as how you can read so well I guess I didn't need to correct you.

Today is the 28th, saying the thread started the same day as I registered, well that would be several day ago.

good god another idiot, welcome to GFY, now :321GFY

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fatalspeed
no offence but in your profile it says Join Date: 12-27-2004" and I DID see you making your first post in this thread.
I dont care who you are but atleast dont say you registered before.

It has to be a relative date then, 12-26 for me and 12-27 if your in Europe.

Either way I registered myself before this thread came into existence, and even it it did exist before I rerigistered, I had to do it sometime.

And yes my first post after registering was in this thread. Is that against some secret GFY rule I missed before clicking on this thread?

Thomas Jefferson 12-28-2004 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chemicaleyes
good god another idiot, welcome to GFY, now :321GFY

Funny I was thinking the same of you, since I have no life for posting in this thread I was wondering what you were doing here. :winkwink:


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