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BRISK · 09-15-2004, 11:44 AM

http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturd.../sticker.shtml

Cliff notes:

1. Woman has John Kerry sticker on her car

2. Woman's boss sees John Kerry sticker

3. Boss tells woman to remove sticker from HER car

4. Woman refuses

5. Woman is fired from her job

newbreed · 09-15-2004, 11:45 AM

Something about the First Amendment comes to mind there...

cherrylula · 09-15-2004, 11:45 AM

bush supporters just a couple notches below suicide bombers.

wyldblyss · 09-15-2004, 11:46 AM

Shit! What was her boss thinking? He can't be too bright.

smack · 09-15-2004, 11:46 AM

oh i hope she sues them for all they're fucking worth.

Giorgio_Xo · 09-15-2004, 11:47 AM

She was hired by Kerry today to work on his campaign.

Yes. What happened is considered a civil rights violations: both free speech and voter's rights. The owner is crazy because the burden of proof in Federal court for this type of thing is very low.

Identified · 09-15-2004, 11:49 AM

I would of fired her 2

smack · 09-15-2004, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by wyldblyss
Shit! What was her boss thinking? He can't be too bright.

people that vote for bush usually aren't.

BRISK · 09-15-2004, 11:58 AM

This is the same kind of person who probably stomps around declaring America the land of the free. Meanwhile, he just fired a woman for her political beliefs.

Yay for hypocrisy!

WickedVenus · 09-15-2004, 11:58 AM

wow that crazy!! Well fuck her boss. Hes an ass anyways especially if hes voting for bush

polish_aristocrat · 09-15-2004, 11:59 AM

Was that her private car or a company's car?

BRISK · 09-15-2004, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Was that her private car or a company's car?

Her car

Tricksy · 09-15-2004, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by smack
people that vote for bush usually aren't.

I do agree!

CDSmith · 09-15-2004, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Was that her private car or a company's car?

Read the article. It say's "her" car in several places....

"Gobbell of Moulton didn't pay a cent for the sticker that she proudly displays on the rear windshield of her Chevrolet Lumina"

It also says she worked a bagging machine in a factory. Since when do factories issue company cars to their employees?

It was her own car.

A boss has certain rights when his employee is representing his company in an official capacity. If she were wearing a t-shirt at work that was pro-Kerry maybe he'd have a leg to stand on in telling her to stop wearing it to work or be fired. But her car?

He could have told her to park her car off company property I suppose, but I don't see how sporting a Kerry sticker would impact negatively on anyone's business in the first place.

Xplicit · 09-15-2004, 12:58 PM

Good times

masterE · 09-15-2004, 01:28 PM

Wow.

This is a damn good reason to vote Libertarian http://www.lp.org this election. Democrats and Republicans have both gone nuts

pussyluver · 09-15-2004, 01:35 PM

She should of never been hired!! To fat and ugly. where was his mind? Couldn't mindless twenty yearold to work for minimum wage?

Her car, his lot. At a factory I don't see the sense in getting fucking upset over a bumper sticker. A more public establishment may want a rule that preculdes making politcal statemenst on company properity. About any statement you make on the subject is gonna piss someone off so why lose business.

pussyluver · 09-15-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by masterE
Wow.

This is a damn good reason to vote Libertarian http://www.lp.org this election. Democrats and Republicans have both gone nuts

Your right

If the press gave them more attention, maybe they could be more of a challenge to the bullshit numb nuts we have now.

Peaches · 09-15-2004, 01:39 PM

Free speech has NOTHING to do with your boss deciding if they want to fire you or not....unless your boss is the government

In a right to hire state, you can be fired for ANY reason except those protected by law (race, age, disability, etc.). Period.

Was it a stupid overreaction on his part? Yes. Did he have every legal right to fire her? Yes.

Giorgio_Xo · 09-15-2004, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
Free speech has NOTHING to do with your boss deciding if they want to fire you or not....unless your boss is the government

In a right to hire state, you can be fired for ANY reason except those protected by law (race, age, disability, etc.). Period.

Was it a stupid overreaction on his part? Yes. Did he have every legal right to fire her? Yes.

Wrong Peaches. This is a civil rights violation. You can't be terminated for your political beliefs.

Peaches · 09-15-2004, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Wrong Peaches. This is a civil rights violation. You can't be terminated for your political beliefs.

Where is that law? It's not in GA . In GA you can be fired for this.

foolio · 09-15-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by wyldblyss
Shit! What was her boss thinking? He can't be too bright.

well, he is voting for Bush - that should tell you something

Tom_PMs · 09-15-2004, 03:27 PM

Interesting that the boss had included a political flier supporting bush in with their paychecks, then fires her for her support of kerry.

Oh well.

FilthyRob · 09-15-2004, 03:33 PM

What a fucking tool

jOdEs · 09-15-2004, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by smack
people that vote for bush usually aren't.

LOL...that's very true...=)

CDSmith · 09-15-2004, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
Where is that law? It's not in GA . In GA you can be fired for this.

She was a factory worker, probably unionized. If it's a decent union and they have good language in their collective agreement, well, any collective agreement worth it's salt should/would have wording in it regarding unfair management practise.

Hard to see the legitimacy of how a boss can tell an employee what they can or dan't put in or on their own car. Like I said earlier, he probably just should have told her she can no longer park her car on his lot, but even in that it could blow up into a big mess.

She works for him, he doesn't own her like a slave.

Peaches · 09-15-2004, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith

She works for him, he doesn't own her like a slave.

No but he can fire her for whatever reason he wants as long as it's not protected by the laws of Alabama because there are certainly no Federal laws against firing someone for their political beliefs.

In GA, you can fire someone if you don't like the way they cut their hair.

Unlike the north the south isn't real big on unions. I'm betting that if there's a union involved, we would have heard about it by now. Or it realizes he had every right to fire her

Nader · 09-15-2004, 04:08 PM

I hope she sues the bastard and wins..

QuaWee · 09-15-2004, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by cherrylula
bush supporters just a couple notches below suicide bombers.

Giorgio_Xo · 09-15-2004, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
Where is that law? It's not in GA . In GA you can be fired for this.

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. §§ 2000e and following)
Title VII prohibits employers from discriminating against applicants and employees on the basis of race or color, religion, sex, pregnancy, childbirth and national origin (including membership in a Native American tribe). It also prohibits employers from retaliating against an applicant or employee who asserts his or her rights under the law.

Her right to political speech was infringed.

Peaches · 09-15-2004, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. §§ 2000e and following)
Title VII prohibits employers from discriminating against applicants and employees on the basis of race or color, religion, sex, pregnancy, childbirth and national origin (including membership in a Native American tribe). It also prohibits employers from retaliating against an applicant or employee who asserts his or her rights under the law.

Her right to political speech was infringed.

Read up on some constitutional case law.

Giorgio_Xo · 09-15-2004, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
Read up on some constitutional case law.

I have. I owned you. Live with it.

Giorgio_Xo · 09-15-2004, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
Read up on some constitutional case law.

The only time dimissal has been upheld by the Federal courts is when "an employee's political activism compromised [the business'] credibility... dismissal was necessary to defend its reputation for impartiality." This has only applied to newspapers so far.

The fact the business handed out pro-Bush pamphlets shows the company had a defined politcal leaning. Ergo, the dismissal was a violation of the woman's right to free speech.

Rob · 09-15-2004, 06:31 PM

She should have just taken off the fucking sticker.

Depending on the employment laws in her State, I'd say her boss knew what he was doing before he shit canned her. In Florida, my boss can come up to me and say, "I don't like what color your car is and you dress funny. You're fired." and I couldn't do shit about it.

pornguy · 09-15-2004, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
She should have just taken off the fucking sticker.

Depending on the employment laws in her State, I'd say her boss knew what he was doing before he shit canned her. In Florida, my boss can come up to me and say, "I don't like what color your car is and you dress funny. You're fired." and I couldn't do shit about it.

But there is a big difference in what you are saying and what happened to her.

You live and work in a right to work state, and yes, they can fire you for parting your hair the wrong way. But they can not fire you for your political beliefes.

Rob · 09-15-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by pornguy
But there is a big difference in what you are saying and what happened to her.

You live and work in a right to work state, and yes, they can fire you for parting your hair the wrong way. But they can not fire you for your political beliefes.

I'm sure they're scurrying to dig up some shit on her as we speak.

Ironhorse · 09-15-2004, 06:44 PM

Well things are certainly looking more and more medieval..

Peaches · 09-15-2004, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
Depending on the employment laws in her State, I'd say her boss knew what he was doing before he shit canned her. In Florida, my boss can come up to me and say, "I don't like what color your car is and you dress funny. You're fired." and I couldn't do shit about it.

Exactly.

Mr Pheer · 09-15-2004, 08:17 PM

Here is her boss's email addy

[email protected]

Have fun with it

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Giorgio_Xo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4,263	She was hired by Kerry today to work on his campaign. Yes. What happened is considered a civil rights violations: both free speech and voter's rights. The owner is crazy because the burden of proof in Federal court for this type of thing is very low. __________________ Make Levees, Not War

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	This is the same kind of person who probably stomps around declaring America the land of the free. Meanwhile, he just fired a woman for her political beliefs. Yay for hypocrisy! __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	She should of never been hired!! To fat and ugly. where was his mind? Couldn't mindless twenty yearold to work for minimum wage? Her car, his lot. At a factory I don't see the sense in getting fucking upset over a bumper sticker. A more public establishment may want a rule that preculdes making politcal statemenst on company properity. About any statement you make on the subject is gonna piss someone off so why lose business.

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Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	Free speech has NOTHING to do with your boss deciding if they want to fire you or not....unless your boss is the government In a right to hire state, you can be fired for ANY reason except those protected by law (race, age, disability, etc.). Period. Was it a stupid overreaction on his part? Yes. Did he have every legal right to fire her? Yes.

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Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	Interesting that the boss had included a political flier supporting bush in with their paychecks, then fires her for her support of kerry. Oh well. __________________ You've read it, you can't unread it.

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Rob I'm a great bowler. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Right Outside of Normal. Posts: 13,310	She should have just taken off the fucking sticker. Depending on the employment laws in her State, I'd say her boss knew what he was doing before he shit canned her. In Florida, my boss can come up to me and say, "I don't like what color your car is and you dress funny. You're fired." and I couldn't do shit about it. __________________

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Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,094	Well things are certainly looking more and more medieval.. __________________ [email protected]

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Mr Pheer So Fucking unBanned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 21,795	Here is her boss's email addy [email protected] Have fun with it