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BRISK 09-15-2004 11:44 AM

ummmm........lawsuit?
 
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturd.../sticker.shtml

Cliff notes:

1. Woman has John Kerry sticker on her car

2. Woman's boss sees John Kerry sticker

3. Boss tells woman to remove sticker from HER car

4. Woman refuses

5. Woman is fired from her job

newbreed 09-15-2004 11:45 AM

Something about the First Amendment comes to mind there...

cherrylula 09-15-2004 11:45 AM

bush supporters just a couple notches below suicide bombers. :2 cents:

wyldblyss 09-15-2004 11:46 AM

Shit! What was her boss thinking? He can't be too bright.

smack 09-15-2004 11:46 AM

oh i hope she sues them for all they're fucking worth.

Giorgio_Xo 09-15-2004 11:47 AM

She was hired by Kerry today to work on his campaign.

Yes. What happened is considered a civil rights violations: both free speech and voter's rights. The owner is crazy because the burden of proof in Federal court for this type of thing is very low.

Identified 09-15-2004 11:49 AM

I would of fired her 2 :2 cents:

smack 09-15-2004 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wyldblyss
Shit! What was her boss thinking? He can't be too bright.
people that vote for bush usually aren't.

BRISK 09-15-2004 11:58 AM

This is the same kind of person who probably stomps around declaring America the land of the free. Meanwhile, he just fired a woman for her political beliefs.

Yay for hypocrisy!

WickedVenus 09-15-2004 11:58 AM

wow that crazy!! Well fuck her boss. Hes an ass anyways especially if hes voting for bush http://www.top10adult.info/images/BUSH/b11.jpg

polish_aristocrat 09-15-2004 11:59 AM

Was that her private car or a company's car? :helpme

BRISK 09-15-2004 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Was that her private car or a company's car? :helpme
Her car

Tricksy 09-15-2004 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by smack
people that vote for bush usually aren't.
I do agree!:thumbsup

CDSmith 09-15-2004 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Was that her private car or a company's car? :helpme
Read the article. It say's "her" car in several places....


"Gobbell of Moulton didn't pay a cent for the sticker that she proudly displays on the rear windshield of her Chevrolet Lumina"


It also says she worked a bagging machine in a factory. Since when do factories issue company cars to their employees?

It was her own car.

A boss has certain rights when his employee is representing his company in an official capacity. If she were wearing a t-shirt at work that was pro-Kerry maybe he'd have a leg to stand on in telling her to stop wearing it to work or be fired. But her car?

He could have told her to park her car off company property I suppose, but I don't see how sporting a Kerry sticker would impact negatively on anyone's business in the first place.

Xplicit 09-15-2004 12:58 PM

Good times :1orglaugh

masterE 09-15-2004 01:28 PM

Wow.

This is a damn good reason to vote Libertarian http://www.lp.org this election. Democrats and Republicans have both gone nuts :(

pussyluver 09-15-2004 01:35 PM

She should of never been hired!! To fat and ugly. where was his mind? Couldn't mindless twenty yearold to work for minimum wage?

Her car, his lot. At a factory I don't see the sense in getting fucking upset over a bumper sticker. A more public establishment may want a rule that preculdes making politcal statemenst on company properity. About any statement you make on the subject is gonna piss someone off so why lose business.

pussyluver 09-15-2004 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by masterE
Wow.

This is a damn good reason to vote Libertarian http://www.lp.org this election. Democrats and Republicans have both gone nuts :(

Your right :thumbsup If the press gave them more attention, maybe they could be more of a challenge to the bullshit numb nuts we have now.

Peaches 09-15-2004 01:39 PM

Free speech has NOTHING to do with your boss deciding if they want to fire you or not....unless your boss is the government :)

In a right to hire state, you can be fired for ANY reason except those protected by law (race, age, disability, etc.). Period.

Was it a stupid overreaction on his part? Yes. Did he have every legal right to fire her? Yes.

Giorgio_Xo 09-15-2004 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches
Free speech has NOTHING to do with your boss deciding if they want to fire you or not....unless your boss is the government :)

In a right to hire state, you can be fired for ANY reason except those protected by law (race, age, disability, etc.). Period.

Was it a stupid overreaction on his part? Yes. Did he have every legal right to fire her? Yes.

Wrong Peaches. This is a civil rights violation. You can't be terminated for your political beliefs.

Peaches 09-15-2004 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Wrong Peaches. This is a civil rights violation. You can't be terminated for your political beliefs.
Where is that law? It's not in GA . In GA you can be fired for this.

foolio 09-15-2004 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wyldblyss
Shit! What was her boss thinking? He can't be too bright.
well, he is voting for Bush - that should tell you something

Tom_PMs 09-15-2004 03:27 PM

Interesting that the boss had included a political flier supporting bush in with their paychecks, then fires her for her support of kerry.

Oh well.

:(

FilthyRob 09-15-2004 03:33 PM

What a fucking tool

jOdEs 09-15-2004 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by smack
people that vote for bush usually aren't.
LOL...that's very true...=)

CDSmith 09-15-2004 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches
Where is that law? It's not in GA . In GA you can be fired for this.
She was a factory worker, probably unionized. If it's a decent union and they have good language in their collective agreement, well, any collective agreement worth it's salt should/would have wording in it regarding unfair management practise.

Hard to see the legitimacy of how a boss can tell an employee what they can or dan't put in or on their own car. Like I said earlier, he probably just should have told her she can no longer park her car on his lot, but even in that it could blow up into a big mess.

She works for him, he doesn't own her like a slave. :1orglaugh

Peaches 09-15-2004 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith

She works for him, he doesn't own her like a slave. :1orglaugh

No but he can fire her for whatever reason he wants as long as it's not protected by the laws of Alabama because there are certainly no Federal laws against firing someone for their political beliefs.

In GA, you can fire someone if you don't like the way they cut their hair. :)

Unlike the north the south isn't real big on unions. I'm betting that if there's a union involved, we would have heard about it by now. Or it realizes he had every right to fire her :thumbsup

Nader 09-15-2004 04:08 PM

I hope she sues the bastard and wins..

QuaWee 09-15-2004 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
bush supporters just a couple notches below suicide bombers. :2 cents:

Giorgio_Xo 09-15-2004 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches
Where is that law? It's not in GA . In GA you can be fired for this.
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. §§ 2000e and following)
Title VII prohibits employers from discriminating against applicants and employees on the basis of race or color, religion, sex, pregnancy, childbirth and national origin (including membership in a Native American tribe). It also prohibits employers from retaliating against an applicant or employee who asserts his or her rights under the law.

Her right to political speech was infringed.

Peaches 09-15-2004 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. §§ 2000e and following)
Title VII prohibits employers from discriminating against applicants and employees on the basis of race or color, religion, sex, pregnancy, childbirth and national origin (including membership in a Native American tribe). It also prohibits employers from retaliating against an applicant or employee who asserts his or her rights under the law.

Her right to political speech was infringed.

Read up on some constitutional case law.:thumbsup

Giorgio_Xo 09-15-2004 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches
Read up on some constitutional case law.:thumbsup

I have. I owned you. Live with it. :)

Giorgio_Xo 09-15-2004 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches
Read up on some constitutional case law.:thumbsup
The only time dimissal has been upheld by the Federal courts is when "an employee's political activism compromised [the business'] credibility... dismissal was necessary to defend its reputation for impartiality." This has only applied to newspapers so far.

The fact the business handed out pro-Bush pamphlets shows the company had a defined politcal leaning. Ergo, the dismissal was a violation of the woman's right to free speech.

Rob 09-15-2004 06:31 PM

She should have just taken off the fucking sticker. :2 cents:

Depending on the employment laws in her State, I'd say her boss knew what he was doing before he shit canned her. In Florida, my boss can come up to me and say, "I don't like what color your car is and you dress funny. You're fired." and I couldn't do shit about it.

pornguy 09-15-2004 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
She should have just taken off the fucking sticker. :2 cents:

Depending on the employment laws in her State, I'd say her boss knew what he was doing before he shit canned her. In Florida, my boss can come up to me and say, "I don't like what color your car is and you dress funny. You're fired." and I couldn't do shit about it.

But there is a big difference in what you are saying and what happened to her.

You live and work in a right to work state, and yes, they can fire you for parting your hair the wrong way. But they can not fire you for your political beliefes.

Rob 09-15-2004 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornguy
But there is a big difference in what you are saying and what happened to her.

You live and work in a right to work state, and yes, they can fire you for parting your hair the wrong way. But they can not fire you for your political beliefes.

I'm sure they're scurrying to dig up some shit on her as we speak.

Ironhorse 09-15-2004 06:44 PM

Well things are certainly looking more and more medieval..

Peaches 09-15-2004 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
Depending on the employment laws in her State, I'd say her boss knew what he was doing before he shit canned her. In Florida, my boss can come up to me and say, "I don't like what color your car is and you dress funny. You're fired." and I couldn't do shit about it.
Exactly. :thumbsup

Mr Pheer 09-15-2004 08:17 PM

Here is her boss's email addy

[email protected]

Have fun with it :)


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