The death of TGPs! How it will happen. - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Jimbo · 05-02-2004, 11:36 PM

50 dead tgps

TheDoc · 05-03-2004, 02:11 AM

At the end of the day you can look at EVERY traffic source and say it has gone to shit. Conversions are worse, traffic is harder to get and keep, and getting huge bulk joins is out the door. Then again you have webmasters with the same traffic source saying they are doing record sales, conversions and things just keep getting more interesting rather than harder.

Hosted Galleries: While hosted galleries do make some webmasters a good amount of money they are not ment to make you rich or really even count for serious money. They should be used for extra income. If you rely on them for all of your money then you have no clue what the hell they are for. Paysites use them for our own purpose, which is to get name exposure first off and hopefully joins to pay for the gallery and to make them USE more bandwidth so they can drive the cost of BW down for them. As long as the galleries make just enough to pay for the BW they use then overall the company is saving money because of the lower BW cost. Some companies really try to build galleries that will make a net profit, which isn?t many.

Real Galleries: If you know how to build them then doing 10-30+ sign-ups a day isn?t anything to you. It?s a trick to each niche, each TGP, and a style that makes these guys power house the sales.

We have about 10 major TGP GALLERY webmasters in our program. They all own TGP?s, they all submit to partner accounts and what looks to be normal TGP?s and they all use our hosted galleries.

Getting sales from TGP?s isn?t about doing ONE thing; it?s about doing everything you can to get traffic and knowing how to work your traffic sources. Once you have the traffic you either know how to make it convert or you don?t.. I don?t think you can be shown how to have a green thumb.

TGP?s and Gallery submissions are NOT going away any time soon. The only difference is times have changed. If you haven?t changed with the times then don?t blame the industry, blame yourself.

TheDoc · 05-03-2004, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackmonsters
Surfers with broadband are going to get tired of 30 sec clips and TGPs will not be able to post really big movies for them so the Broadban surfer is going to seek paysites and skip the dumb shit.

Dial up users actually like small movies because they don't want to wait for download but also don't care much about paysites with big movies because of the same reason. As more people get high speed access, joining paysites is going to make more since than clicking on small movies and getting cirle jerked and then TGPs will be hurt even more.

Broadband or dialup, 30 second movies are to tease the visitor to sign-up for the paysite. I hope they get tired of them so you can make money from them. After all the is the idea.

Dial-up users make up most of the member base of paysites, that is why most paysites offer 4-5 minute videos that are downloadable and can be merged together.

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That doesn't follow with the evolution of business. There will always be a new way do things that will basically kill off the old way. I never thought I would see the end to phono records!

TGP will go the route of topsite list, which were once all over the place. I had to convert my topsites to a TGP modle in order to stay in biz. I will have to change again. It's comming for sure.

You can't compair TGP's with Topsites. TGP's offer real pictures and some videos. The onlything toplists offered was crap sites with popups and CJ traps and more often than not CP. They died because they sucked.

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My TGP profits are getting lower and partly because of lack of quality interracial paysites. But I keep wondering how long are sponsors going to keep letting my TGP drain their bandwidth on hosted galleries. They simply are not converting nearly as good as I thought they would.

As far as the response about knowing how to convert TGP traffic, that is something to tell the sponsors with hosted galleries. I cannot change their galleries.

I know of some really kick ass Interracial paysites that still convert like mad. If a sponsors hosted galleries don't work for you then build your own.. Most bigger gallery webmasters do.

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You're way off base!!!
These hosted galleries are suposed to increase my sales or why the hell would I use them? Why the hell would a sponsor make them? .

Increase your sales, not be all of your sales. Hope ya understand that.

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I can make a gallery for the sponsor or the sponsor can make the gallery for me...it's the same thing..

No, not even close to the same thing. We don't know your traffic, it's source or what it likes.. You should. If you sell the paysite before the visitor sees it, then you are gold.

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The decline in sales is the primary reason that VISA and paypal don't give a fuck about us anymore. We no longer own a big chunk of their bottom line. What kind of biz would be stupid enough to all of a sudden demand a $750 fee from it's best clients and possibly drive them away? No one is that stupid.
They demanded it becuase they didn't give a crap if porn masters quit because profits were way down. .

Visa required registration for EVERY other business other than porn for the longest time. Our registration is rather cheap, it can be as high as $5k. This is a VERY normal thing.

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You seem not to get it that I own TGPs and I'm telling you that they are not as profitble as "before". I'm still making money, so making money is not the issue. Getting richer is the issue?
Getting 200 sales a month means nothing if you used to get 400 salesa month with the same methods because soon you will get 100 sales a month then 50 sales a month then 25 sales a month and then your condo gets reposessed..

If you have the same amount of traffic then yes, this could be so, because your visitors are seeing the same BS over and over. If you keep growing in traffic and getting new sources and your sales have still dropped then I would look into doing things differently.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-03-2004, 02:38 AM

"If you sell the paysite before the visitor sees it, then you are gold."

Absolutly true.

Living For Today · 05-03-2004, 02:50 AM

yeh i am seeing this trend.

Paul Markham · 05-03-2004, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackmonsters
There will also be a change in content providers that will kill TGP.

I for one have stopped buying content for posting because it just not as profitable as before. As more webmasters quit buying the content providers will have to start changing their license to "exclusive" so that they can sell for highger prices and maintain value and profits. This will add to the problem with buying pics to post and will kill TGP further.

In your dreams.

Try and find one guy who will spend $300 on this as an exclusive set,

When you can't now go and find me 10 who will buy it non-exclusive for $35. Easy isn't it. Shooting exclusive is for those who cannot sell direct.

Also as more of the content providers go out of business, just look for the next blow out sale, those left will realise that they can charge more for their product.

And forget about buying from "Russians" they may be cheap but few can shoot what will convert, it's just nice to put up the word exclusive on a site most of the time.

Paul Markham · 05-03-2004, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
there's no money in TGPs, go look somewhere else

we feel for you, did you get the food parcel we sent.

V_RocKs · 05-03-2004, 04:25 AM

Not on my watch....

$5 submissions · 05-03-2004, 04:45 AM

I'm sure it will find a way to survive. Of course, in a very modified form.

strobi · 05-03-2004, 04:46 AM

most TGPs make far more from advertising "around" their galleries than the galleries themselves

Paul Markham · 05-03-2004, 04:49 AM

This part of the porn industry has changed so fast in 10 years, anyone who thinks it won't in the next year is a moron.

Firstly you have to know what the TGP market is. Surfers who will never pay, surfers who cannot pay, surfers who sometimes pay and surfers who use it as a sampling medium to find the next site they will belong to.

Never pay, forget about him. he will probably become a webmaster.

Cannot pay, too young and busy getting hooked to porn.

Sometimes & samplers, these are the guys we earn our money from and probably why The Hun can charge $500 a day.

What might happen is the paysites will realise that a $500 a day banner is cheaper and a lot less trouble than keeping, finding and giving webmasters a slice and making sure they are not screwing you rotten.

Plus the good TGP sites will realise that they could get $5 a day a listing for the lower listing for the first week and then some of the clowns will disappear. Some can't afford to buy a $5 set to work with, let alone $5 a day to list it on a single TGP.

Let's be honest, other than providing free porn for those who are unable to pay at present TGPs do not create traffic, they merely guide it. So if half the crap webmasters and TGP sites disappeared tomorrow would we lose a single surfer?

This is just my opinion but the market will change and change fast, that you can be sure of.

doornx · 05-03-2004, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackmonsters
I truly believe what I said above. The market will have to correct itself by natural means and this is already happening.
TGP profits are getting lower and lower.

Surfers with broadband are going to get tired of 30 sec clips and TGPs will not be able to post really big movies for them so the Broadban surfer is going to seek paysites and skip the dumb shit.

Dial up users actually like small movies because they don't want to wait for download but also don't care much about paysites with big movies because of the same reason. As more people get high speed access, joining paysites is going to make more since than clicking on small movies and getting cirle jerked and then TGPs will be hurt even more.

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Surfers with broadband are going to get tired of 30 sec clips and TGPs will not be able to post really big movies for them so the Broadban surfer is going to seek paysites and skip the dumb shit."

they won't have to search for them cause you're handing it over to them..through a gallery, by stating that sponsor X has 100's of hours dvd quality downloadable movies

Galleries are like big advertisements..learn how to sell

RicardoB · 05-03-2004, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackmonsters
As conversions continue to fall TGPs are being forced to sell gallery spots to make the long money. Webmasters buying spots will soon see conversions drop so low that there is little profit after bandwidth+content+listings. But TGPs will continue to sell even more spots and getting listed for free will become next to impossible thus causing webmasters to quit posting.

After spot buyers give up on posting there will be no one posting to the TGPs and they will have to use sponsor hosted galleries.
With everybody and his mom using SPHs with low conversions and high bandwidth, sponsors will be forced to kill these galleries. Surfers will become bored with the available free content and traffic on TGPs will die down to the point where the TGP will basically die from lack of profit.

But no problem. Because then the paysites will make more conversions and a new partnership will emerge where sponsors become "content warehouses" where they give webmasters 100k pics and vids to build paysites and take 50%. We all then will be owners of dozens of paysites and once again become wealthy.

The only way for TGP to day is to have Bush re-elected and crack down on free porn.

Otherwise there are a zillion ways to make cash off a TGP.

Basic_man · 05-03-2004, 06:03 AM

You are fuckin' wrong

SoBeGirl Video · 05-03-2004, 06:07 AM

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junction · 05-03-2004, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by digifan
Some big tgps not spreading the same crap will survive and profit.

Well said my friend.

B-Eazy · 05-03-2004, 06:42 AM

This is a hardcore thread.. Really enjoying what im hearing.. Alot of different ideas and thoughts running threw out minds.. This is good.. This is what brings change to our industry.

cosis · 05-03-2004, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackmonsters
As conversions continue to fall TGPs are being forced to sell gallery spots to make the long money. Webmasters buying spots will soon see conversions drop so low that there is little profit after bandwidth+content+listings. But TGPs will continue to sell even more spots and getting listed for free will become next to impossible thus causing webmasters to quit posting.

After spot buyers give up on posting there will be no one posting to the TGPs and they will have to use sponsor hosted galleries.
With everybody and his mom using SPHs with low conversions and high bandwidth, sponsors will be forced to kill these galleries. Surfers will become bored with the available free content and traffic on TGPs will die down to the point where the TGP will basically die from lack of profit.

But no problem. Because then the paysites will make more conversions and a new partnership will emerge where sponsors become "content warehouses" where they give webmasters 100k pics and vids to build paysites and take 50%. We all then will be owners of dozens of paysites and once again become wealthy.

I think the opposite is true, TGP's are not being forced to sell spots. They are selling spots because people ARE making money from them. Why would you list a free gallery when there are people willing to pay hundreds of dollars to be listed in it's place? It's simple business. Surfers will never be bored with porn and especially not FREE PORN. I think you are hoping this will be the case but use your head. FREE PORN WILL ALWAYS ATTRACT VISITORS. I am a 5+ year webmaster and I even still look at TGP's.

Oh yeah I am making more sales from TGP's than I did 3 years ago. Just did over 500 last month

blackmonsters · 05-03-2004, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cosis
Oh yeah I am making more sales from TGP's than I did 3 years ago. Just did over 500 last month

I hope that's a type-o and you meant $5000.
$500 a month is a joke dude.

the Shemp · 05-03-2004, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackmonsters
I hope that's a type-o and you meant $5000.
$500 a month is a joke dude.

i think he meant 500 sales

4Pics · 05-03-2004, 03:06 PM

tgp is not dying if anything there is a huge growth right now, and gts is making more sites alot more money then they made in the past and removing a ton of the headaches. Now they can focus on traffic and listings and building instead of on getting paid on time, selling the spots etc.

Robbie · 05-03-2004, 04:20 PM

The Death Of TGP's?
You are ALL wrong!
Hosted Galleries from Sponsors are kicking ass! When I started day to day operation of AMPLAND in 2000 the site was getting about 250,000 uniques a day. And the primary source of income was selling text links.
NOW we are getting close to 800,000 uniques a day and just off of sponsor hosted galleries we are grossing over $750,000 a year! When I add in other ad revenue we are popping WAY over a cool million a year on Ampland.
TGP's Dying?
We just keep growing and growing!
What has died is the sudden glut of thousands upon thousands of former "customers" who suddenly joined affiliate programs and became "webmasters" and started freeloading off of our traffic by having us post their galleries.
I know you might say..."well it was our galleries that kept people coming to your site"
Maybe...but since day one we have made Ampland into WAY more than just galleries. We were the first with daily humor back in '96 and we just keep adding things for people to do.
And as I said...once I got RID of the public submitters...our traffic went through the roof!
Maybe it's because we are honest with the surfers and don't allow pop-ups and don't have any blind links.
I think you might be confusing some of the "fake" tgp's who only exist to blindlink and trade traffic with other "fake" tgp's in a stupid attempt to get big numbers.
The "real" TGP's like us still have top quality traffic. That's why my link spots aren't available to the general public for sale. I keep 'em for myself because they are just too valuable.
No, the TGP's will never die.
But I'm afraid our days of being a FREE SITE are going to come to an end soon.
That's what is really going to happen. The government will very soon shut down ALL free sites.
So the name of this post should be: "The Death Of Free Sites and how it will really happen."
Well how it will really happen is...one day John Ashhahahahaha is just gonna say "Free sites are illegal because ANYONE including CHILDREN can access them."
And the day that happens I will make 3 or 4 million dollars when Ampland becomes the cheapest and biggest pay site on the planet!
It's called "evolution" baby! And the law of un-intended consequences!

the Shemp · 05-03-2004, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Robbie
The Death Of TGP's?
You are ALL wrong!
Hosted Galleries from Sponsors are kicking ass! When I started day to day operation of AMPLAND in 2000 the site was getting about 250,000 uniques a day. And the primary source of income was selling text links.
NOW we are getting close to 800,000 uniques a day and just off of sponsor hosted galleries we are grossing over $750,000 a year! When I add in other ad revenue we are popping WAY over a cool million a year on Ampland.
TGP's Dying?
We just keep growing and growing!
What has died is the sudden glut of thousands upon thousands of former "customers" who suddenly joined affiliate programs and became "webmasters" and started freeloading off of our traffic by having us post their galleries.
I know you might say..."well it was our galleries that kept people coming to your site"
Maybe...but since day one we have made Ampland into WAY more than just galleries. We were the first with daily humor back in '96 and we just keep adding things for people to do.
And as I said...once I got RID of the public submitters...our traffic went through the roof!
Maybe it's because we are honest with the surfers and don't allow pop-ups and don't have any blind links.
I think you might be confusing some of the "fake" tgp's who only exist to blindlink and trade traffic with other "fake" tgp's in a stupid attempt to get big numbers.
The "real" TGP's like us still have top quality traffic. That's why my link spots aren't available to the general public for sale. I keep 'em for myself because they are just too valuable.
No, the TGP's will never die.
But I'm afraid our days of being a FREE SITE are going to come to an end soon.
That's what is really going to happen. The government will very soon shut down ALL free sites.
So the name of this post should be: "The Death Of Free Sites and how it will really happen."
Well how it will really happen is...one day John Ashhahahahaha is just gonna say "Free sites are illegal because ANYONE including CHILDREN can access them."
And the day that happens I will make 3 or 4 million dollars when Ampland becomes the cheapest and biggest pay site on the planet!
It's called "evolution" baby! And the law of un-intended consequences!

you are inspiring me to get rid of my gallery submitters...

Robbie · 05-03-2004, 04:37 PM

Chunk 'em Shemp! They're just freeloaders making money off of your name! Hell, cut me in on a percentage and I'll tell you all my secrets! Heh-heh! I'm gonna be at Webmaster Access in Atlanta this weekend by the way...and I plan on drinking my way through the whole fucking town! That's one of my secrets right there...whoring and drinking....constantly.

the Shemp · 05-03-2004, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Robbie
Chunk 'em Shemp! They're just freeloaders making money off of your name! Hell, cut me in on a percentage and I'll tell you all my secrets! Heh-heh! I'm gonna be at Webmaster Access in Atlanta this weekend by the way...and I plan on drinking my way through the whole fucking town! That's one of my secrets right there...whoring and drinking....constantly.

im getting too old for the heavy drinking, but im still up for the whoring...

ive got to miss the atlanta show, but i will be down next month.....

blazin · 05-03-2004, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi
most TGPs make far more from advertising "around" their galleries than the galleries themselves

Agree

bllott · 05-03-2004, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackmonsters
As conversions continue to fall TGPs are being forced to sell gallery spots to make the long money. Webmasters buying spots will soon see conversions drop so low that there is little profit after bandwidth+content+listings. But TGPs will continue to sell even more spots and getting listed for free will become next to impossible thus causing webmasters to quit posting.

After spot buyers give up on posting there will be no one posting to the TGPs and they will have to use sponsor hosted galleries.
With everybody and his mom using SPHs with low conversions and high bandwidth, sponsors will be forced to kill these galleries. Surfers will become bored with the available free content and traffic on TGPs will die down to the point where the TGP will basically die from lack of profit.

But no problem. Because then the paysites will make more conversions and a new partnership will emerge where sponsors become "content warehouses" where they give webmasters 100k pics and vids to build paysites and take 50%. We all then will be owners of dozens of paysites and once again become wealthy.

good one

blackmonsters · 05-03-2004, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Robbie
The Death Of TGP's?
You are ALL wrong!
Hosted Galleries from Sponsors are kicking ass! When I started day to day operation of AMPLAND in 2000 the site was getting about 250,000 uniques a day. And the primary source of income was selling text links.
NOW we are getting close to 800,000 uniques a day and just off of sponsor hosted galleries we are grossing over $750,000 a year! When I add in other ad revenue we are popping WAY over a cool million a year on Ampland.
TGP's Dying?
We just keep growing and growing!
What has died is the sudden glut of thousands upon thousands of former "customers" who suddenly joined affiliate programs and became "webmasters" and started freeloading off of our traffic by having us post their galleries.
I know you might say..."well it was our galleries that kept people coming to your site"
Maybe...but since day one we have made Ampland into WAY more than just galleries. We were the first with daily humor back in '96 and we just keep adding things for people to do.
And as I said...once I got RID of the public submitters...our traffic went through the roof!
Maybe it's because we are honest with the surfers and don't allow pop-ups and don't have any blind links.
I think you might be confusing some of the "fake" tgp's who only exist to blindlink and trade traffic with other "fake" tgp's in a stupid attempt to get big numbers.
The "real" TGP's like us still have top quality traffic. That's why my link spots aren't available to the general public for sale. I keep 'em for myself because they are just too valuable.
No, the TGP's will never die.
But I'm afraid our days of being a FREE SITE are going to come to an end soon.
That's what is really going to happen. The government will very soon shut down ALL free sites.
So the name of this post should be: "The Death Of Free Sites and how it will really happen."
Well how it will really happen is...one day John Ashhahahahaha is just gonna say "Free sites are illegal because ANYONE including CHILDREN can access them."
And the day that happens I will make 3 or 4 million dollars when Ampland becomes the cheapest and biggest pay site on the planet!
It's called "evolution" baby! And the law of un-intended consequences!

Well, I have to agree with you about gallery posters. I quit taking submissions as soon as I started. I would really like to take submissions but cheaters and goof balls just make it impossible for me. Until the explosion of hosted galleries I was just makeing galleries for my TGP myself. I could definitely approve them faster.

I really don't think that TGP will die completely but I have seen a few bite the dust. I think the biggest players will survive. It's going to be like the big search engine battle a few years back.
Eventually only a few will dominate and the rest will be just clinging on to the edge.

So my "Death of TGP" should be considered the same as the "death of SE's". Most died but it's still big biz.

bizmak · 05-03-2004, 07:06 PM

I also like the way you see it, but something else will come up for sure

berg.the.red · 05-03-2004, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the Shemp

you are inspiring me to get rid of my gallery submitters...

Robbie: quit givin' him ideas mang !!

good to hear your still doin' good !!

Bruno · 05-04-2004, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Robbie
The Death Of TGP's?
You are ALL wrong!
Hosted Galleries from Sponsors are kicking ass! When I started day to day operation of AMPLAND in 2000 the site was getting about 250,000 uniques a day. And the primary source of income was selling text links.
NOW we are getting close to 800,000 uniques a day and just off of sponsor hosted galleries we are grossing over $750,000 a year! When I add in other ad revenue we are popping WAY over a cool million a year on Ampland.
TGP's Dying?
We just keep growing and growing!
What has died is the sudden glut of thousands upon thousands of former "customers" who suddenly joined affiliate programs and became "webmasters" and started freeloading off of our traffic by having us post their galleries.
I know you might say..."well it was our galleries that kept people coming to your site"
Maybe...but since day one we have made Ampland into WAY more than just galleries. We were the first with daily humor back in '96 and we just keep adding things for people to do.
And as I said...once I got RID of the public submitters...our traffic went through the roof!
Maybe it's because we are honest with the surfers and don't allow pop-ups and don't have any blind links.
I think you might be confusing some of the "fake" tgp's who only exist to blindlink and trade traffic with other "fake" tgp's in a stupid attempt to get big numbers.
The "real" TGP's like us still have top quality traffic. That's why my link spots aren't available to the general public for sale. I keep 'em for myself because they are just too valuable.
No, the TGP's will never die.
But I'm afraid our days of being a FREE SITE are going to come to an end soon.
That's what is really going to happen. The government will very soon shut down ALL free sites.
So the name of this post should be: "The Death Of Free Sites and how it will really happen."
Well how it will really happen is...one day John Ashhahahahaha is just gonna say "Free sites are illegal because ANYONE including CHILDREN can access them."
And the day that happens I will make 3 or 4 million dollars when Ampland becomes the cheapest and biggest pay site on the planet!
It's called "evolution" baby! And the law of un-intended consequences!

Very Intelligent Post Robbie!

tranza · 05-13-2008, 12:04 PM

I think this thread deserves a bump.

Tempest · 05-13-2008, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

I think this thread deserves a bump.

ha ha ha

You can always tell the guys who don't know shit by their sky is falling posts.

Klen · 05-13-2008, 12:34 PM

My tgp still works fine and brings money.

nation-x · 05-13-2008, 02:27 PM

I find that noobs post about "falling conversion rates... blah blah blah". I regularly convert programs at 1:250 RAWS and recently even have a program converting at 1:111 (for the month) RAWS. The only reason dumbasses have high conversion rates is because they are pushing the same programs as a million other webmasters OR pulling a straight up newb trick of putting all kinds of niches on their sites and expecting to make alot of sales.

--> TGP TIP OF THE CENTURY RIGHT HERE <--
Don't run a million sponsors on your new tgp. Don't start a multi-niche tgp if your a newb. Stick to specific niches that not everyone and their brother are promoting and only run a few sponsors on each tgp. BAM! Did that hurt your head?

cosis · 05-13-2008, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

My tgp still works fine and brings money.

me too...

blackmonsters · 03-05-2011, 10:33 AM

Since everyone is bumping old threads today, I'd like to take this oppotunity to
apologise to all TGP owners for saying that TGPs were going to die.

Klen · 03-05-2011, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Since everyone is bumping old threads today, I'd like to take this oppotunity to
apologise to all TGP owners for saying that TGPs were going to die.

My tgp still works fine and brings money.

CPA37710T · 03-05-2011, 10:36 AM

No source of traffic will ever go away, it will be either modified or just continue being good but in this game theres always someone buying

blackmonsters · 03-05-2011, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

My tgp still works fine and brings money.

That's good news.

Please post your gallery submit link so I can submit some nice galleries.

CaptainHowdy · 03-05-2011, 11:26 AM

DVTimes · 03-05-2011, 11:28 AM

i get sales from mine.

feel free to trade:

http://wouj.com/index2.htm

blackmonsters · 03-05-2011, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

i get sales from mine.

feel free to trade:

http://wouj.com/index2.htm

Cool. Do you get 3 sales per month or are you big time and get like 5 plus a rebill?

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brassmonkey · 05-26-2019, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miguel

When will tubes die? Do you have a prediction?

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CurrentlySober · 05-26-2019, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Marks

TGP is like HERPES...

i lik herpes...

Miguel · 05-26-2019, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

the real question... why are you not a content partner?

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grzepa · 05-26-2019, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

When will tubes die? Do you have a prediction?

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brassmonkey · 05-26-2019, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grzepa

They will die right after YouTube dies. Which will probably not gonna happen anytime soon.

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05-03-2004, 02:11 AM	#52
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	At the end of the day you can look at EVERY traffic source and say it has gone to shit. Conversions are worse, traffic is harder to get and keep, and getting huge bulk joins is out the door. Then again you have webmasters with the same traffic source saying they are doing record sales, conversions and things just keep getting more interesting rather than harder. Hosted Galleries: While hosted galleries do make some webmasters a good amount of money they are not ment to make you rich or really even count for serious money. They should be used for extra income. If you rely on them for all of your money then you have no clue what the hell they are for. Paysites use them for our own purpose, which is to get name exposure first off and hopefully joins to pay for the gallery and to make them USE more bandwidth so they can drive the cost of BW down for them. As long as the galleries make just enough to pay for the BW they use then overall the company is saving money because of the lower BW cost. Some companies really try to build galleries that will make a net profit, which isn?t many. Real Galleries: If you know how to build them then doing 10-30+ sign-ups a day isn?t anything to you. It?s a trick to each niche, each TGP, and a style that makes these guys power house the sales. We have about 10 major TGP GALLERY webmasters in our program. They all own TGP?s, they all submit to partner accounts and what looks to be normal TGP?s and they all use our hosted galleries. Getting sales from TGP?s isn?t about doing ONE thing; it?s about doing everything you can to get traffic and knowing how to work your traffic sources. Once you have the traffic you either know how to make it convert or you don?t.. I don?t think you can be shown how to have a green thumb. TGP?s and Gallery submissions are NOT going away any time soon. The only difference is times have changed. If you haven?t changed with the times then don?t blame the industry, blame yourself. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

05-03-2004, 02:38 AM	#54
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	"If you sell the paysite before the visitor sees it, then you are gold." Absolutly true. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

05-03-2004, 04:45 AM	#59
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	I'm sure it will find a way to survive. Of course, in a very modified form. __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

05-03-2004, 04:49 AM	#61
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	This part of the porn industry has changed so fast in 10 years, anyone who thinks it won't in the next year is a moron. Firstly you have to know what the TGP market is. Surfers who will never pay, surfers who cannot pay, surfers who sometimes pay and surfers who use it as a sampling medium to find the next site they will belong to. Never pay, forget about him. he will probably become a webmaster. Cannot pay, too young and busy getting hooked to porn. Sometimes & samplers, these are the guys we earn our money from and probably why The Hun can charge $500 a day. What might happen is the paysites will realise that a $500 a day banner is cheaper and a lot less trouble than keeping, finding and giving webmasters a slice and making sure they are not screwing you rotten. Plus the good TGP sites will realise that they could get $5 a day a listing for the lower listing for the first week and then some of the clowns will disappear. Some can't afford to buy a $5 set to work with, let alone $5 a day to list it on a single TGP. Let's be honest, other than providing free porn for those who are unable to pay at present TGPs do not create traffic, they merely guide it. So if half the crap webmasters and TGP sites disappeared tomorrow would we lose a single surfer? This is just my opinion but the market will change and change fast, that you can be sure of. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-03-2004, 02:50 AM	#55
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	yeh i am seeing this trend.

05-03-2004, 04:25 AM	#58
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Not on my watch....

05-03-2004, 04:46 AM	#60
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	most TGPs make far more from advertising "around" their galleries than the galleries themselves

05-03-2004, 06:03 AM	#64
Basic_man Programming King Pin Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 27,360	You are fuckin' wrong __________________ UUGallery Builder - automated photo/video gallery plugin for Wordpress! Stop looking! Checkout Naked Hosting, online since 1999 !

05-03-2004, 06:07 AM	#65
SoBeGirl Video So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Planet earth Posts: 2,493	The solution to TGP The Answer

05-03-2004, 06:42 AM	#67
B-Eazy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,521	This is a hardcore thread.. Really enjoying what im hearing.. Alot of different ideas and thoughts running threw out minds.. This is good.. This is what brings change to our industry. __________________

05-03-2004, 03:06 PM	#71
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	tgp is not dying if anything there is a huge growth right now, and gts is making more sites alot more money then they made in the past and removing a ton of the headaches. Now they can focus on traffic and listings and building instead of on getting paid on time, selling the spots etc.

05-03-2004, 04:20 PM	#72
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	The Death Of TGP's? You are ALL wrong! Hosted Galleries from Sponsors are kicking ass! When I started day to day operation of AMPLAND in 2000 the site was getting about 250,000 uniques a day. And the primary source of income was selling text links. NOW we are getting close to 800,000 uniques a day and just off of sponsor hosted galleries we are grossing over $750,000 a year! When I add in other ad revenue we are popping WAY over a cool million a year on Ampland. TGP's Dying? We just keep growing and growing! What has died is the sudden glut of thousands upon thousands of former "customers" who suddenly joined affiliate programs and became "webmasters" and started freeloading off of our traffic by having us post their galleries. I know you might say..."well it was our galleries that kept people coming to your site" Maybe...but since day one we have made Ampland into WAY more than just galleries. We were the first with daily humor back in '96 and we just keep adding things for people to do. And as I said...once I got RID of the public submitters...our traffic went through the roof! Maybe it's because we are honest with the surfers and don't allow pop-ups and don't have any blind links. I think you might be confusing some of the "fake" tgp's who only exist to blindlink and trade traffic with other "fake" tgp's in a stupid attempt to get big numbers. The "real" TGP's like us still have top quality traffic. That's why my link spots aren't available to the general public for sale. I keep 'em for myself because they are just too valuable. No, the TGP's will never die. But I'm afraid our days of being a FREE SITE are going to come to an end soon. That's what is really going to happen. The government will very soon shut down ALL free sites. So the name of this post should be: "The Death Of Free Sites and how it will really happen." Well how it will really happen is...one day John Ashhahahahaha is just gonna say "Free sites are illegal because ANYONE including CHILDREN can access them." And the day that happens I will make 3 or 4 million dollars when Ampland becomes the cheapest and biggest pay site on the planet! It's called "evolution" baby! And the law of un-intended consequences!

05-03-2004, 04:37 PM	#74
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Chunk 'em Shemp! They're just freeloaders making money off of your name! Hell, cut me in on a percentage and I'll tell you all my secrets! Heh-heh! I'm gonna be at Webmaster Access in Atlanta this weekend by the way...and I plan on drinking my way through the whole fucking town! That's one of my secrets right there...whoring and drinking....constantly.

05-03-2004, 07:06 PM	#79
bizmak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 10,014	I also like the way you see it, but something else will come up for sure

05-13-2008, 12:04 PM	#82
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I think this thread deserves a bump. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

05-13-2008, 12:34 PM	#84
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	My tgp still works fine and brings money.

05-13-2008, 02:27 PM	#85
nation-x Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,370	I find that noobs post about "falling conversion rates... blah blah blah". I regularly convert programs at 1:250 RAWS and recently even have a program converting at 1:111 (for the month) RAWS. The only reason dumbasses have high conversion rates is because they are pushing the same programs as a million other webmasters OR pulling a straight up newb trick of putting all kinds of niches on their sites and expecting to make alot of sales. --> TGP TIP OF THE CENTURY RIGHT HERE <-- Don't run a million sponsors on your new tgp. Don't start a multi-niche tgp if your a newb. Stick to specific niches that not everyone and their brother are promoting and only run a few sponsors on each tgp. BAM! Did that hurt your head? Last edited by nation-x; 05-13-2008 at 02:28 PM..

03-05-2011, 10:33 AM	#87
blackmonsters Making PHP work Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 🌎🌅🌈🌇 Posts: 20,488	Since everyone is bumping old threads today, I'd like to take this oppotunity to apologise to all TGP owners for saying that TGPs were going to die. __________________ Make Money with Porn

03-05-2011, 10:36 AM	#89
CPA37710T business ready hit me up! Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nearby Posts: 1,115	No source of traffic will ever go away, it will be either modified or just continue being good but in this game theres always someone buying

03-05-2011, 11:26 AM	#91
CaptainHowdy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. Posts: 93,442	__________________ Tjeezers.cam plus all sites $12.000,00. Transfer within 24 hours.

03-05-2011, 11:28 AM	#92
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	i get sales from mine. feel free to trade: http://wouj.com/index2.htm __________________ The Affiliate Program

05-26-2019, 08:56 AM	#94
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05-26-2019, 12:27 PM	#95
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