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Old 04-16-2004, 02:34 AM   #251
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Old 04-16-2004, 03:35 AM   #252
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Roxx had only been in the adult industry for three months. Her scene with James and Anthony was her first double anal.
That makes it still more sad
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Old 04-16-2004, 05:25 AM   #253
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Maybe one day the people of the world can work together to make the cure happen and end the needless suffering.

We can put radio controlled cars on Mars, we send probes to other galaxies and try to conquer the desert for oil....

87 billion for Iraq.....Billions more for operations, rebuilding, and occupation of a people that want to be left alone....

7 billion for AIDS at best.....

Eventually the rates of infection will reach plaque levels and then what will we do?

When is enough suffering enough to take action?
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Old 04-16-2004, 05:42 AM   #254
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18 or 19...3 months in the biz

That's horrible
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Old 04-16-2004, 05:47 AM   #255
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ypu,,,that really really suxs
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Old 04-16-2004, 05:51 AM   #256
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The recent news of people going down with this bullshit is horrible.. This has to stop.. Cant have all the stars getting sick bc of some idiots
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why do you keep subscribing yourself to more lists?
how old are you ? you sound like an high school kid
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That's horrible
Thats just Murphy's LAw
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The real issue is how long until we hear Wolf Blitzer use the term "double anal" on CNN.
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Old 04-16-2004, 08:18 AM   #262
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9) Any shithead that calls these girls "whores" deserves a kick in the sac. Just cuz they fuck on camera and get paid for it does NOT make them whores. You're probably the same kind of people that call any women that shows her tits in a mainstream film a whore. And then you go home to your family (in the unlikely case that you found a woman that didn't vomit at the sight of your ugly faces) and molest your kids after taking them to church.



What SHOULD we call them, saints?


Sorry, but money for sex = whore. That's how you define what a whore is.


There's a reason why we call women who only take off their clothes "strippers" and women who do more "whores".
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I'm a firm believer that any 18 year old girl (or boy) is not mature enough to make a decision that may haunt them for the rest of their life.

compassion people

lest we forget......

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i would have imagine many that shoot in europe/south america have a greater risk of aids regardless of testing.

i feel sorry for this laura roxx girl..

but these HIV scares will keep coming back regardless.
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That's awful news. I really feel sorry for those girls.
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Old 04-16-2004, 10:15 AM   #267
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I'm a firm believer that any 18 year old girl (or boy) is not mature enough to make a decision that may haunt them for the rest of their life.

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lest we forget......


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What SHOULD we call them, saints?


Sorry, but money for sex = whore. That's how you define what a whore is.


There's a reason why we call women who only take off their clothes "strippers" and women who do more "whores".
but these "whores" are the people that pay your livelihood , without content from what these "whores" are doing, GFY and the whole adult industry wouldnt be where it is today, and you wouldnt be making money peddling the stuff
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She's still in LA but not in need of a plane ticket at the moment. Apparently she has an offer to do an interview with Fox News and so she's staying in LA a bit longer for that. Nice of you to offer though.
BTW, thanks for clarifying the Montreal shoot.

Do you know if she is getting legal advice before doing her interview? In case there is some type of legal recourse, she should watch what she is saying or may ruin her chance to get anything.

As for those of you shitting on her for asking for money for an interview - try living the last years of your life knowing that you will die in a shorter amount of time than your peers, you can't work in the last profession you chose, you are broke, not all medical costs may be covered and an industry will have forgotten you. Money won't buy her health back but it can certainly make it alot warmer in Montreal winters to pay for heating and can help pay for medical attention not covered by the government.

If you haven't walked 100 miles in this girls shoes, please, refrain from judging her.
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I'm a firm believer that any 18 year old girl (or boy) is not mature enough to make a decision that may haunt them for the rest of their life.

compassion people

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believe it or not, i am with you. and would even say girls should be 21 plus to do porn.

if you cant drink till then why not make it porn as well.

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believe it or not, i am with you. and would even say girls should be 21 plus to do porn.

if you cant drink till then why not make it porn as well.

"i cant drink but i can sell my body for porn movies"
I agree Fletch, they should make it 21 for softporn and wait until they are 23 for harder stuff and it should be worldwide - so they won't be travelling to 'more' lenient countries.
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I agree Fletch, they should make it 21 for softporn and wait until they are 23 for harder stuff and it should be worldwide - so they won't be travelling to 'more' lenient countries.
Hnmm, at 18 a kid can die for their country but can't fuck on camera if they want to? That's a stretch there, imo.

While this is a sad situation for everyone involved, I'll refer to Jenna's comments about the fact that the adult film industry has much lower overall instances of HIV than the general population. Given that there's alot more sex going on in the adult film industry than in the general population it's more of a credit to the industry than a detriment.

Now the fact that someone got careless and did some things they shouldn't have, TTBoy and Darren James in Brazil being the one that comes to my mind at the moment, is not an indication of the entire industry being stupid, just that someone has suffered a bad judgement call that can never be erased.

If the two of them were sitting around laughing about it, I'd be outraged, but my guess is that they are sitting around, head in their hands, thinking of how easily this could have been prevented. I don't mean with a condom, I mean by dumping the trip to Brazil.

Has the RNA viral load test result on James come in yet with the timeline for when he was infected? I haven't seen it, but am wondering.
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Do you know if she is getting legal advice before doing her interview? In case there is some type of legal recourse, she should watch what she is saying or may ruin her chance to get anything.

I really don't know the answer to that question. But I doubt it.
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Hnmm, at 18 a kid can die for their country but can't fuck on camera if they want to? That's a stretch there, imo.
same argument can be said that they cant drink until they are 21 but can die for this country before having a beer?

i wont argue this, its my opinion. having seen girls cry after doing their first anal scene after realizing it may have not been worth the money and they want to go back "home." and generally seeing the immaturity in some of the 18 year old girls who DO get wrapped up in this in my time around talent, i still say it should be 21.

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Hnmm, at 18 a kid can die for their country but can't fuck on camera if they want to? That's a stretch there, imo.



Has the RNA viral load test result on James come in yet with the timeline for when he was infected? I haven't seen it, but am wondering.
I would have to say that there can never be a magic age when somebody becomes an adult. I've known 13 year olds that were more mature than 30 year olds and 40 year olds that act like 10 year olds. So 18 is probably as good an age as any other.

AIM hasn't yet released the info on the exact time of infection.
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Maybe one day the people of the world can work together to make the cure happen and end the needless suffering.

We can put radio controlled cars on Mars, we send probes to other galaxies and try to conquer the desert for oil....

87 billion for Iraq.....Billions more for operations, rebuilding, and occupation of a people that want to be left alone....

7 billion for AIDS at best.....

Eventually the rates of infection will reach plaque levels and then what will we do?

When is enough suffering enough to take action?
Herb, that's the most sane post I've read on this thread regarding the AIDS pandemic.

The history and origin of AIDS is a scandal in itself. Even when the scientists who developed it for germ warfare got on the air and confessed WITH sworn affidavits you didn't hear about it in the mainstream news ( www.tetrahedron.org ).

AIDS is the product of an accident turned into a weapon that some assholes turned onto the specific populations hoping to eradicate them but it backfired.

Yet this story of this kid is one of who knows how many people who are young and infected. Like the 'War on Cancer' we're tossing billions at a cure and ignoring cures because the big pharmaceutical companies are making money hand over fist.

The bottom line is we need to be more responsible as a whole. Stop finger pointing at ghosts and bring those responsible for unleashing this plague up to justice and focus on the proven methods of curing the disease.

This is also a prime opportunity for the adult webmasters worldwide to be more proactive in educating the public and voicing your opinions. You could be a force to be reckoned with. Use your powers for good not evil

With the influence and traffic the combined network of adult webmasters and industry has if focused like how Larry Flynt used to do when bringing unpopular topics to the fore, you'ld be practically invincible.

Remember 'Robin Hood' he may have been an outlaw but his cause was just.

So let's just be more compassionate, responsible and help the girl out and counsel and educate the rest.
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believe it or not, i am with you. and would even say girls should be 21 plus to do porn.

if you cant drink till then why not make it porn as well.

"i cant drink but i can sell my body for porn movies"
i was about to post the same thing. 18 is too young to be able to make that kind of decision in my opinion. legally adult but your still a kid at 18 as far as im concerned.
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same argument can be said that they cant drink until they are 21 but can die for this country before having a beer?

i wont argue this, its my opinion. having seen girls cry after doing their first anal scene after realizing it may have not been worth the money and they want to go back "home." and generally seeing the immaturity in some of the 18 year old girls who DO get wrapped up in this in my time around talent, i still say it should be 21.

its only an opinion.
That's one thing I like about you Fletch, we dont always have to agree but we can discuss like adults.

Someone told me once when I started in this business that they'd never seen a stripper that hadn't either been abused or was goign to be abused.

In many cases, I'd say the same thing applies to the adult film business and the escort business. There's just something that doesn't work in the synapses somewhere in the brain I think in the first place.

I work in this industry and I have nothing against people having sex for money on camera or off. It's not my business what consenting adults do with their time or their bodies on a case by case basis. Mister X made the point that people mature at vastly different levels, and age isnt always indicative of maturity.

When I was 17 I was living in NOLA, going to Tulane and moving forward with my life. I was able to handle living unsupervised well enough that I didn't fuck my life up over it. Many of the kids that started school with me didn't make it through a semester, they were homesick, couldn't deal with the stress or the responsibility of managing their own lives. But I also know people that quit high school at 16 and are very successful today without an education, they were simply more mature at that age and could handle their lives.

Kids have sex at ridiculously young ages now. Watch the Maury show or Springer or any of that drivel and you'll see some totally whacked out shit from kids that aren't ever going into porn.
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Are you trying to tell me, this poor girl actually believed that testing people every 3 or 4 weeks was a 100% safeguard against any of them being HIV positive? Somebody should have told her.
Based on her age, I bet she did believe that she was 100% safe. She may be smart for her age, I don't know her, but even a smart 18 year old is still pretty ignorant when it comes to how the world really works. When you're young, you're invinsible. I agree, someone should have told her but I'm not sure if it would have made a difference or if she even would have believed it.

The legal age should be 21 across the board to be considered an adult. This should include fighting for your country, drinking alcohol, smoking, having sex for money, and gambling. When it's 18 for one right and 21 for another, it makes us feel more grown up than we actually are at 18.

I started having sex as a young teenager. I was way too young, I know that now. But at the time, I felt ready and nobody could have convinced me otherwise. During my "slut" phase, I was still jailbait so I probably got taken advantage of a lot less than had I been over 18.

Looking back at all the bad decisions I made, I'm thankful that I was never raped or molested, didn't catch a lifetime disease, and am still alive now. I was lucky.

The Laura Roxxx case makes me sad. I can't see myself making the same decisions, but you never know... Sure, she should have known the risks, but based upon her age I don't think that's a realistic expectation. She made the choice, she got burned. Although it wouldn't have been while filming porn (I don't do porn), I could have just as easily wound up in the position she faces now. At 18 if I had been in the situation, I probably would have committed suicide. She's where she is, blaming doesn't help anything, and she really needs our help and support.
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KimmyKim, lotsa good points there.

As far as age of people having sex you gotta understand that until recently in the human history equation people have been living past 25 on the long run. 100 years ago if a woman hadn't married by 18 she was considered old age! So we're not having sex younger, we're just not being responsible enough.

As for female victims of pimps, porn whatever, I can only say from my experience there's two sides to that story! I spent well close to 20 years helping battered women's programs. What I saw first hand made my head spin. 9 times out of ten the women who were being battered or abused were abusive themselves! It was a mad house!

They'ld caterwaller about how such-n-such did this-n-that to them and then turn right around and wallop some guy or kid or other woman. They'd even have a go at a judge or cop now and then.

After 20 years of this I've realized that the problem is making the right decisions and that comes from not blaming everybody else for the shit we're in. If the shit stinks, you stepped in it!

Sure there are people who can't defend themselves. Those younger or even elderly. They're the ones that get my attention. You wouldn't believe the amount of elderly abuse and scams nowadays. ( sure sure some of the old folks deserve it! They were abusive asswipes back in the day ).

So it's a case by case basis. We've gotta stop that blanket think: ' she was a princess of a girl until she fell in with the wrong crowd ' routine.

I've seen women walk right past a nice guy with a bright future to find the worst crack-head alcoholic abusive axe murderer they could find. Shack up with him and then complain he beat her and stole her money.

I have NO sympathy for a person that damned stupid.
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Fuck. She was so new to the business and now her entire career is over. In the end, I wonder how many stars in this business will have to find a new gig?

So sad.
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Again, you're wrong. If you fuck on camera, and get paid for it, you ARE a whore.

Feel free to give me that kick in the sack, cowboy. In fact, I dare you.

Right back at you .. Go fuck yourself
You're both right and both wrong. Neither one of you will be able to get the other to agree with you. I personally disagree with you.

Because I fuck on camera for money, am I a manwhore too? :D

Oh well, heh. Can't win them all I guess.
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There's a reason why we call women who only take off their clothes "strippers" and women who do more "whores".
Who's "we"?

I know lots of more conservative people who call "strippers" who only take off their clothes for money "whores".

Noticing a pattern here? Everyone has their own political and social beliefs, some more conservative than others.

Why the fuck are we bitching about who's a whore and who isn't? That's not the issue here - if it is, why are you on GFY anyway?
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There is not need of a law to avoid under 21 girls to get involved in porn, here there are the major content producers in USA, if you really want to stop it you can do it
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Old 04-16-2004, 01:55 PM   #288
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how sad and pathetic to see what people think of these girls.
i have never called a porn girl a bitch, a whore, a slut for what they do. I wouldn't even call a prostitute a whore.

The only time I'd use those words would be to a person I'm angry at and I'd use it the same way I'd call a male I'm angry at a cocksucker, bastard, scumbag. Just an angry word at somebody I'm angry at.

Why so angry at women who work in the sex business? Where does that come from?

Alot of these girls are not stable, have existing problems that go a long way to explain how they got into the porn business. It would be ideal if all the girls who became porn girls were smart, well adjusted and just exhibitionists or girls who make a decision based on money to further whatever their real goals are and have no problem having sex on camera for money. Those girls do exist. I spoke with one today, really sweet very intelligent girl, she's not a whore, a bitch or a slut - just made a decision to make money doing something that pays her more than anything else can at this point in her life.
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Amen to that, Mutt!
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but these "whores" are the people that pay your livelihood , without content from what these "whores" are doing, GFY and the whole adult industry wouldnt be where it is today, and you wouldnt be making money peddling the stuff

Hey, I'm only saying they are whores. If they can accept the idea of getting fucked for money on camera, I think they are ready to accept that title.

I'm glad someone is willing to do it so I can make money. I know I couldn't do it, I'm just not that type of person.
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Old 04-16-2004, 02:08 PM   #291
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Why so angry at women who work in the sex business? Where does that come from?

Alot of these girls are not stable, have existing problems that go a long way to explain how they got into the porn business. It would be ideal if all the girls who became porn girls were smart, well adjusted and just exhibitionists or girls who make a decision based on money to further whatever their real goals are and have no problem having sex on camera for money. Those girls do exist. I spoke with one today, really sweet very intelligent girl, she's not a whore, a bitch or a slut - just made a decision to make money doing something that pays her more than anything else can at this point in her life.

You missed the point. I don't think anyone hates these girls or even dislikes them. It's just that if you take money to fuck someone, you are a whore. Correct?

If she was so very intelligent, why wouldn't she do something else to make MORE money?

I could never, ever be in porn. I could make money off it though. I suppose I exist in the moral grey area where I believe someone needs to be content, and someone needs to make money from that content. Just as someone needs to be Justin Timberlake, and someone needs to make my sub at Quiznos.
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That's one thing I like about you Fletch, we dont always have to agree but we can discuss like adults.

Someone told me once when I started in this business that they'd never seen a stripper that hadn't either been abused or was goign to be abused.

In many cases, I'd say the same thing applies to the adult film business and the escort business. There's just something that doesn't work in the synapses somewhere in the brain I think in the first place.

I work in this industry and I have nothing against people having sex for money on camera or off. It's not my business what consenting adults do with their time or their bodies on a case by case basis. Mister X made the point that people mature at vastly different levels, and age isnt always indicative of maturity.

When I was 17 I was living in NOLA, going to Tulane and moving forward with my life. I was able to handle living unsupervised well enough that I didn't fuck my life up over it. Many of the kids that started school with me didn't make it through a semester, they were homesick, couldn't deal with the stress or the responsibility of managing their own lives. But I also know people that quit high school at 16 and are very successful today without an education, they were simply more mature at that age and could handle their lives.

Kids have sex at ridiculously young ages now. Watch the Maury show or Springer or any of that drivel and you'll see some totally whacked out shit from kids that aren't ever going into porn.
Agreed on the Fletch comment, for the longest time I thought he was a tool with the broken fingers crowd. Seeing his commentary over the last few days I have a different view.

As for the psychoanalysis of the strippers. Anyday, anytime, I have written reems on this subject.

Lastly, I think this is the first time I have seen the content producers, the people in the trenches come out of the wood work and discuss their trade. I find the dialog between the people who have to deal with this on a daily basis and the people sitting in the DMZ to be very interesting.


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9) Any shithead that calls these girls "whores" deserves a kick in the sac. Just cuz they fuck on camera and get paid for it does NOT make them whores. You're probably the same kind of people that call any women that shows her tits in a mainstream film a whore. And then you go home to your family (in the unlikely case that you found a woman that didn't vomit at the sight of your ugly faces) and molest your kids after taking them to church.



What SHOULD we call them, saints?


Sorry, but money for sex = whore. That's how you define what a whore is.


There's a reason why we call women who only take off their clothes "strippers" and women who do more "whores".
And why the fuck are you here ? You wouldn't be there without thoses girls so a lil respect plz
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Huggles, I'm not calling you this.. but I know for a fact that many would call you a hypocrite for your moral grey area that you exist/believe in.
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believe it or not, i am with you. and would even say girls should be 21 plus to do porn.

if you cant drink till then why not make it porn as well.

"i cant drink but i can sell my body for porn movies"
Softcore - Hc with boyfriend shuld be 18

Hardcore with AIM tests and all the bullshit arround him (whoring) should be 21 +
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Agreed on the Fletch comment, for the longest time I thought he was a tool with the broken fingers crowd. Seeing his commentary over the last few days I have a different view.

As for the psychoanalysis of the strippers. Anyday, anytime, I have written reems on this subject.

Lastly, I think this is the first time I have seen the content producers, the people in the trenches come out of the wood work and discuss their trade. I find the dialog between the people who have to deal with this on a daily basis and the people sitting in the DMZ to be very interesting.


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And why the fuck are you here ? You wouldn't be there without thoses girls so a lil respect plz


Since when is calling someone a whore disrespectful if that's what they do?


I show no disrespect. Do you think Jenna Jameson would say she is not a whore? People joke about being "sig whores" all the time, and if you are a whore, then wear it like a badge. I'm sure many content people do.
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This may not be the right time to ask, but everyone in the office has just one question,

"What is the going rate for double anal?"

I personally am trying to guage the $$$, as I am not sure how anyone (thinking clearly) would say, "Double anal? Shit yeah, right now"

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You're both right and both wrong. Neither one of you will be able to get the other to agree with you. I personally disagree with you.

Because I fuck on camera for money, am I a manwhore too? :D

Oh well, heh. Can't win them all I guess.
Yes, you pretty much are.

But please note .. Nobody is disrepecting you for it. What do you consider yourself? An actor? "talent"?
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