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Old 04-16-2004, 12:38 AM   #201
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best wishes to her and her family at this time, Just hope this doesnt mean that theres a high risk of the whole first generation list getting the virus
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Old 04-16-2004, 12:38 AM   #202
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Very fucked up.

Thank god I sleep with one girl and she sleeps with one guy.

In another thread, Dugmor was saying she had current AIM tests (and then later said she needed cash for AIM tests). In the same thread, Slim says he fucked her.
For one, the scene I shot with Laura was done like a month and a half ago, plus it was just a BJ scene. Obviously, I posted that comment before anyone knew about the tragedy
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Good job on totally fucking up your reply to Warchild. Basically it looked like he dropped an intelligent point and all you could do in reply is give the finger. Your reply reminds me of the French in WW2.
Since when is pointing out the obvious ("she's a whore) an intelligent point? It's not only counter-productive, but also most webmasters in adult don't consider their bread and butter as "whores".


Fact is, some pretty nice straight-up professional people work as content.
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Of course her being 18 and impressionable directly resulted in this!

She's 18 for christ sake!

I think you've got me all wrong. I don't think she deserves it, I don't want her to have it, and i'm not glad she does have it.

I agree, it's horrible. I hope she has comfort and support at home.
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Actually, the world has worked very well with sex striving and not causing wars - well beyond 2000 years. The wars are caused by power, greed, need and religion (you must have just crawled out from under the rocks).

Call all the girls that fucked you only because of your money what you like but refrain from any further attempts to offend me. With my husband, I can be whatever I please. Sex for money - no, I only know hard labour, long hours and sleepless nights. As for being a bitch, only for a week while PMS'ing - anything else?
more poeople have died in the past 150 years through violence since we gave bitches a voice then had in the past 2000 years......dont try to debate me go wash the dishes and cook me dinner or you'll get a slap
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For one, the scene I shot with Laura was done like a month and a half ago, plus it was just a BJ scene. Obviously, I posted that comment before anyone knew about the tragedy
Slim - did they come to Montreal or were these scenes done in LA?
If in Montreal, did these guys have sex with anyone out of the business?
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Since when is pointing out the obvious ("she's a whore) an intelligent point? It's not only counter-productive, but also most webmasters in adult don't consider their bread and butter as "whores".


Fact is, some pretty nice straight-up professional people work as content.
I think it's just the terminology we're disagreeing about.

I don't necessarily disrepect girls, or men that do content. If I was a beautiful woman, and in a desperate situation .. I don't know that I wouldn't do the same or even worse ... But if I sold my body, for money .. I'd consider myself a whore too. I'm not an artist, I'm a fucking pornographer. I'm just calling a spade a spade here.

I have a great deal of respect for some models. Many more, I do not. Lots of girls in this business are a little bit flakey. I wonder how many girls do porn when they're 18 .. and end up regretting it at 30? I'm willing to bet quite a few.

I never said pointing it out was intelligent. I was just shooting down somebody who was trying to say otherwise.

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more poeople have died in the past 150 years through violence since we gave bitches a voice then had in the past 2000 years......dont try to debate me go wash the dishes and cook me dinner or you'll get a slap
Do the world a favor.

Go to the cupboard under your kitchen sink, look for anything that resembles Drano, open it and drink it. Make sure you drink all of it.


Thank you.
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Do the world a favor.

Go to the cupboard under your kitchen sink, look for anything that resembles Drano, open it and drink it. Make sure you drink all of it.


Thank you.
how do you keep comming up with all these whitty comments?
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Your severe idiocy seems to inspire me.
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Of course her being 18 and impressionable directly resulted in this!

She's 18 for christ sake!

I think you've got me all wrong. I don't think she deserves it, I don't want her to have it, and i'm not glad she does have it.

I agree, it's horrible. I hope she has comfort and support at home.
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I think it's just the terminology we're disagreeing about.

I don't necessarily disrepect girls, or men that do content. If I was a beautiful woman, and in a desperate situation .. I don't know that I wouldn't do the same or even worse ... But if I sold my body, for money .. I'd consider myself a whore too. I'm not an artist, I'm a fucking pornographer. I'm just calling a spade a spade here.

I have a great deal of respect for some models. Many more, I do not. Lots of girls in this business are a little bit flakey. I wonder how many girls do porn when they're 18 .. and end up regretting it at 30? I'm willing to bet quite a few.

I never said pointing it out was intelligent. I was just shooting down somebody who was trying to say otherwise.
So basically, everytime you say 'whore', you're using the exact, dictionary definition of whore, as opposed to the more colloquial definition of whore?

Perhaps you should choose a different word to use. If you call me a bastard here, I'm not going to assume you mean I'm an illegitimate child.
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Well the bitches aren't the violent ones - so go get yourself some food and clean your own dishes - lay one hand on me and you won't live to tell the wrath of one BITCH who was PMSing.
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So basically, everytime you say 'whore', you're using the exact, dictionary definition of whore, as opposed to the more colloquial definition of whore?

Perhaps you should choose a different word to use. If you call me a bastard here, I'm not going to assume you mean I'm an illegitimate child.
Or a female dog like searching is calling me!
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So basically, everytime you say 'whore', you're using the exact, dictionary definition of whore, as opposed to the more colloquial definition of whore?

Perhaps you should choose a different word to use. If you call me a bastard here, I'm not going to assume you mean I'm an illegitimate child.

I don't really care what you assume I mean to be honest. You can assume anything you like.
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Well the bitches aren't the violent ones - so go get yourself some food and clean your own dishes - lay one hand on me and you won't live to tell the wrath of one BITCH who was PMSing.

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are you being so defensive because the double anal is a reguler thing for you?
Is it your habit to call it defensive when I have in fact gone on the offense?

You aren't very bright, are you.

I kind of feel bad about verbally slapping you around now.

Not really, but kind of.
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My mother and father at least made an attempt at loving each other. They were married. There was no actual payment in cash. More or less a lifetime of give and take.

Let's look in to this a little more

whore ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hôr, hr)
n.
A prostitute.
A person considered sexually promiscuous.
A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.


pros·ti·tute ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prst-tt, -tyt)
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One who solicits and accepts payment for sex acts.
One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.


AS you can see .. A whore is a prostitute. A prostitute is someone who accepts payment for sex acts.

So if you're getting paid, to perform sexual acts .. You technically ARE a whore. You can't spin it any other way, genius.

true.

but regardless, this sort of thing is a tragedy. young people make mistakes. a young girl goes to LA, she has a good body and a free spirit, for a brief moment she has a fantasy she is some sort of a star, what with all the suitcase pimps fawning over her.

and for many girls who are really somewhat plain but look interesting naked this sudden attention is very seductive, after all every girl dreams of being a "star".

and this young person who probably makes minimum wage in the real world is told she is beautiful and paid several thousand dollars to be an "actress".

and so someone introduces the DP to this young girl, an activity that causes physical trauma and some internal bleeding, an activity that is only second to IV drug use in it's efficacy of transmitting the virus.

and a young person is looking at dying young.

i don't blame the girl for getting herself into this predicament so much---i blame the guys who hustled her and played it fast and loose. if it weren't for the guys this probably would not have happened.

it is the girls who are the fodder in this equation. a straight guy gets hiv usually from shooting dope, but a girl gets it usually from taking it in the ass.
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One day the government is going to step in and really regulate the fuck out of porn production companies. You'll have to register with them, report to them before any shoots, provide names and test results/doc<i></i>umentation of all participants <i>BEFORE</i> you can even think of picking up a camera. I can see it all now.


People actively working in production need to look out for each other at all times. That includes making sure tests are done, done regularly, and that every last detail is taken care of in that regard every time, period. No exceptions. The demand for bareback porn will always be there, people will always be shooting it, so the only line of defense IS the tests.
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would i be out of line if i were to say

I'D STILL HIT IT ?
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I can't believe I just read the whole thread. I should have just fucking skipped over a few of the people totally. I know better now for sure.

I feel really bad for her. I don't think being a newbie or desperate or whatever else has been rumored here makes a difference though.

I have a friend on the second gen list and I don't even know what to say to her. What can I say, but good luck?
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I have a friend on the second gen list and I don't even know what to say to her. What can I say, but good luck?
Just let her know you're there for her. That's all you can do at a time like this, but it'll mean the world to her.
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Double anal = bigger payouts. It's as simple as that.
Everyone has a price. I'm sure she'd get into scat or watershowers or gangbangs too if the money was right. Most people here, guys or girls, models or not, would too.
Yeah, I can confirm that there isn't enough money in this world to get me doing double anal.

Why not? Because I can make a living on other talents, other than opening my asshole.

Not EVERYBODY puts the mighty dollar above their own beliefs and morals.
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Yeah, I can confirm that there isn't enough money in this world to get me doing double anal.

Why not? Because I can make a living on other talents, other than opening my asshole.

Not EVERYBODY puts the mighty dollar above their own beliefs and morals.
This may be unrealistic, but can you honestly tell me that if I showed up at your door with 2 guys and $10 billion cash, you wouldn't take double anal from them?
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Well there's a lot of stupid shit and misconceptions floating around this thread. Nothing new for GFY of course.

1) Yes Darren was in Montreal in February and had sex with at least 2 of the 3 girls from Montreal.

2) I doubt very much that he had sex with anyone out of the business at that time. And if he did he used a condom. He isn't a new guy to the industry that fucks anything that walks.

3) Chances are EXTREMELY small that he had HIV when he was here. Darren was tested every 3 weeks for the last 6 or 7 years. That's 1 week better than the suggested rate of every 30 days.

4) He may or may not have knowingly fucked up in Brazil. At this point only he and TT Boy and a few others know for sure and they aren't saying. But the fact is that he is one of the most liked and respected performers in the industry. He isn't a demon.

5) Dugmor did indeed post that Lara needed money for an AIM test. He was wrong about that because she had already got one prior to shooting with Darren on the 24th of March. Most likely the reason that he posted that is cuz she was bullshitting him. I feel very sorry for the girl, and actually like her, but the fact is that she is a flake and she was probably working him for the extra cash.

6) She was definitely NOT coerced into anything. By Dugmor or anyone else in the industry. She probably did double anal for the simple reason that it is the highest paid scene in the industry. for obvious reasons. And she was definitely advised AGAINST going to LA in the first place. And when she got there she was advised to fly home. By several people, including Dugmor. The truth of the matter is that she was there a week earlier than almost anyone knew and had already done at least 2 scenes at the time that Dugmor made his post.

7) Chances are very very small, approaching impossible that Lara was the one that infected Darren. It's true that he was tested clean after returning from Brazil but that test was too close to the shoot in Brazil for a test to be reliable at all. When AIM has figured out the most likely time of infection they will release it.

8) AVN was just pointing out the irony in the fact that the girls had worked with Darren in Montreal and that one of the first places they went in LA was to the Evasive Angles studio. They weren't suggesting anything else.

9) AVN has repeatedly gotten the date wrong that Patricia worked with Darren. She worked with him on the 9th and NOT on the 8th. Similarly they initially had it that he worked with Lara on the 7th of April, when in fact it was the 24th of March.

9) Any shithead that calls these girls "whores" deserves a kick in the sac. Just cuz they fuck on camera and get paid for it does NOT make them whores. You're probably the same kind of people that call any women that shows her tits in a mainstream film a whore. And then you go home to your family (in the unlikely case that you found a woman that didn't vomit at the sight of your ugly faces) and molest your kids after taking them to church.

So

And do it a few extra times. With a sharp knife. And then buy that handy dandy self-castration kit and make sure that you don't spread your filth into the gene pool.
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This may be unrealistic, but can you honestly tell me that if I showed up at your door with 2 guys and $10 billion cash, you wouldn't take double anal from them?
Yeah I can say *I* would honestly turn it down. That specifically, anyway.

However, if I was poor, down on my luck single mom, living on the gutter and unable to pay my child's medical bill .. Then MAYBE I'd do it .. And maybe even for a lot less than than. I don't know, can't say .. Haven't been there.
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Yeah I can say *I* would honestly turn it down. That specifically, anyway.

However, if I was poor, down on my luck single mom, living on the gutter and unable to pay my child's medical bill .. Then MAYBE I'd do it .. And maybe even for a lot less than than. I don't know, can't say .. Haven't been there.
I'd be mighty impressed if you turned it down.

$10 billion dollars can pay for a lot of therapy and a few stitches.

I'm far from poor or down on my luck, but I'd whip out the Vaseline.
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Old 04-16-2004, 02:01 AM   #233
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Well there's a lot of stupid shit and misconceptions floating around this thread. Nothing new for GFY of course.

9) Any shithead that calls these girls "whores" deserves a kick in the sac. Just cuz they fuck on camera and get paid for it does NOT make them whores. You're probably the same kind of people that call any women that shows her tits in a mainstream film a whore. And then you go home to your family (in the unlikely case that you found a woman that didn't vomit at the sight of your ugly faces) and molest your kids after taking them to church.

So

And do it a few extra times. With a sharp knife. And then buy that handy dandy self-castration kit and make sure that you don't spread your filth into the gene pool.
Again, you're wrong. If you fuck on camera, and get paid for it, you ARE a whore.

Feel free to give me that kick in the sack, cowboy. In fact, I dare you.

Right back at you .. Go fuck yourself
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Old 04-16-2004, 02:02 AM   #234
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I'm like speachless.

Theirs so many people in the world that don't use condoms. Its scary even for the couples that have been over 10 years togeter still has to protect them self's, because you don't know if your wife or husband has been cheating on you.

The girl is 18or 19 and wont pass her 30 thats a big thing, and the worst about it is that she will live knowing she will die someday, you know you can be hit by a car or what ever, its over. But now she will have to live with it untill she dies.

I would call that murder for the one hwo had it and gaved it to her.
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I'd be mighty impressed if you turned it down.

$10 billion dollars can pay for a lot of therapy and a few stitches.

I'm far from poor or down on my luck, but I'd whip out the Vaseline.
You know .. How can we ever say .. If the money was RIGHT in front of me .. Fuck I REALLY don't know.

All I can do is venture to guess. I don't think I'd be able to live with myself after the fact. Everybody has a line that they will not cross, I'd like to think.
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I'd be mighty impressed if you turned it down.

$10 billion dollars can pay for a lot of therapy and a few stitches.

I'm far from poor or down on my luck, but I'd whip out the Vaseline.
Just to clarify, I'm not saying I don't believe you'd turn it down, I'm just saying I'd be mighty impressed.

It's one thing to say no when faced with a purely hypothetical and highly implausible situation. It's another thing to say no when it's real.
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Yeah, I can confirm that there isn't enough money in this world to get me doing double anal.

Why not? Because I can make a living on other talents, other than opening my asshole.

Not EVERYBODY puts the mighty dollar above their own beliefs and morals.
So apparently it's okay to make a living off the efforts of these girls (or at least pretend that you're a real big adult industry player). But it's immoral for the girls to do it in the first place????

What a sad, sad, fucked up, know-nothing piece of trash you are. By your apparent line of reasoning it would be bad to blow up a building but it would be okay to be Osama Bin Laden because he didn't actually fly the plane.

P.S. From the crap you're spouting I'm pretty sure that you've already opened your asshole pretty wide. Cuz that's obviously the orifice you are talking out of.
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Just to clarify, I'm not saying I don't believe you'd turn it down, I'm just saying I'd be mighty impressed.

It's one thing to say no when faced with a purely hypothetical and highly implausible situation. It's another thing to say no when it's real.
Yeah I hear you.

Look at it from a different angle though. I find the idea of being fucked in the ass by two men WORSE than the idea of killing somebody.

Now I don't believe in taking anybody's life, and I'd like to think that you couldn't give me enough money period to do it. The money would never make it "right".
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Yeah I hear you.

Look at it from a different angle though. I find the idea of being fucked in the ass by two men WORSE than the idea of killing somebody.
Interesting. Given the choice, I'd rather be double-dicked in the ass (unless the potential murder victim deserved to die).

Besides, what good would $10 billion be if you get thrown in jail for murder? At least they can't throw you in jail for double-anal.
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I think I would accept the 10 billion, make sure it was in my bank account, then take the two guys up the ass



then kill everyone involved and get on with my life. No witnesses.
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All this talk about getting double-dicked in the ass is making me kinda horny...





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So apparently it's okay to make a living off the efforts of these girls (or at least pretend that you're a real big adult industry player). But it's immoral for the girls to do it in the first place????
Whoa cowboy. I never said I was any better than anybody else for making a living doing it. I don't consider myself to be a contributing member of moral society .. At least not in my work. There is nothing glamerous in peddling porn, and I won't pretend there is. Recently there was a series, can't remember what it was called .. But it was supposed to be a modern day Romeo and Juliette ... The families were torn because one was the son of the District Attorney (extreme good) and the other was the daughter of a pornographer (extreme evil). I have no illusions as to what society thinks of me.

I never pretended to be a big adult player. I work for myself, in the Adult industry. I make more than a judge but less than Lensman. I have no illusions as to my stature in this buisness, either.

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What a sad, sad, fucked up, know-nothing piece of trash you are. By your apparent line of reasoning it would be bad to blow up a building but it would be okay to be Osama Bin Laden because he didn't actually fly the plane.
Right back at you .. I really don't give a shit what you think about me. I'm confident in my knowledge and don't require affirmation from you. Thanks anyway, but fuck yourself.

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P.S. From the crap you're spouting I'm pretty sure that you've already opened your asshole pretty wide. Cuz that's obviously the orifice you are talking out of.
Blah blah blah .. Come back when you have something to say ... As it is, you're just spewing nonsense.
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Interesting. Given the choice, I'd rather be double-dicked in the ass (unless the potential murder victim deserved to die).

Besides, what good would $10 billion be if you get thrown in jail for murder? At least they can't throw you in jail for double-anal.
Yeah I guess I must be a little sociopathic .. For some reason I'd rather defile somebody else (take their life) than defile myself (two big ol' man poles drillin' my poor virgin ass).

If I had children though, I believe I'd do anything for them ..At any cost ... But that's a different story though
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I'D STILL HIT IT ?
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i would never be a pornstar, these guys/girls go into work (sometimes) day to day now knowing if they will come out diseased or now. most of them (coke heads) no not realize what they are getting into.
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Did the girl get home?

If not I will personally get her the $500 to get home.
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If anyone has contact with her and she is in the LA area still and needs the money to fly home, Please contact me. LA is very close to where I am and I will personally drive up there and give her the $500.00 for a plane ticket.
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Interesting. Given the choice, I'd rather be double-dicked in the ass (unless the potential murder victim deserved to die).

Besides, what good would $10 billion be if you get thrown in jail for murder? At least they can't throw you in jail for double-anal.
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Did the girl get home?

If not I will personally get her the $500 to get home.
Actions speak louder than words.

We've all been more words than action so far.

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If anyone has contact with her and she is in the LA area still and needs the money to fly home, Please contact me. LA is very close to where I am and I will personally drive up there and give her the $500.00 for a plane ticket.
She's still in LA but not in need of a plane ticket at the moment. Apparently she has an offer to do an interview with Fox News and so she's staying in LA a bit longer for that. Nice of you to offer though.
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