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Old 04-16-2004, 12:00 AM   #151
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jack·ass ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jks)
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1. A male ass or donkey.
2. A foolish or stupid person; a blockhead; WarChild: ?Sorry .. but in my book when you have sex for money, you're a whore. It doesn't matter I make money off it .. Or how convient it makes my life. Sex for money = whore. It's simple? (WarChild).
I don't see how calling a whore, a whore makes me stupid.

It's the honest truth. If you have sex for money, you're a whore. How can you possibly claim anything else? Are you fucking retarded?
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My mother and father at least made an attempt at loving each other. They were married. There was no actual payment in cash. More or less a lifetime of give and take.

Let's look in to this a little more

whore ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hôr, hr)
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A person considered sexually promiscuous.
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pros·ti·tute ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prst-tt, -tyt)
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One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.


AS you can see .. A whore is a prostitute. A prostitute is someone who accepts payment for sex acts.

So if you're getting paid, to perform sexual acts .. You technically ARE a whore. You can't spin it any other way, genius.
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How many children do you have? Daughters? Sons? If it were you're son what would you do?

If you were a parent and faced with this predicament, you'd be balling your eyes out and holding that child very tight because you know that your time is now limited and wondering where YOU went wrong while bringing that child up.
I doubt this asshat has ever had sex with a woman without having to pay for it. And if he were ever to impregnate someone, I doubt he'd be a man and father the child.
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she could easily be called a whore, but she didnt deserve to get the hiv.
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Nobody deserves to get HIV.

In this day and age, nobody HAS to get it either. Condoms may not be perfect, but they're shit loads better than unprotected double anal.

I feel sorry for the child. If she is in fact 18, that's what she is. It's unfortunate that the mistakes she's made while she was young are going to kill her eventually.

I have the deepest sympathies for her, and her family. I wish her many more years, and let's hope they find a cure along the way.
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How many children do you have? Daughters? Sons? If it were your son what would you do?

If you were a parent and faced with this predicament, you'd be balling your eyes out and holding that child very tight because you know that your time is now limited and wondering where YOU went wrong while bringing that child up.
definatly not, it would be better for them to be dead then to sell themselves
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I agree, while I feel bad that anyone has to go through something like HIV or anything else that is life threatening and changing. I don't think she deserved it, but at the same time it was in part her own fault and that's something you just have to live with so forgive me for not joining the sympathy party.
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I don't see how calling a whore, a whore makes me stupid.

It's the honest truth. If you have sex for money, you're a whore. How can you possibly claim anything else? Are you fucking retarded?
Do you only see the world in black and white? Or do you see shades of grey every now and then?
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definatly not, it would be better for them to be dead then to sell themselves
Get yourself 'fixed' before you do make the mistake of having a child. In a perfect world, you'd be able to draw your child's future to your expectations - then again, in a perfect world, we wouldn't know about HIV.
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Do you only see the world in black and white? Or do you see shades of grey every now and then?
I'm sorry . When you're far away from home in LA getting pumped in the ass by TWO cocks at once .. And getting paid for it .. What else should we call her if not a whore?

There's no fucking shades of grey here at all.

It's not like the poor girl did a little softcore to pay her way through college, now is it?
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Nobody deserves to get HIV.

In this day and age, nobody HAS to get it either. Condoms may not be perfect, but they're shit loads better than unprotected double anal.

I feel sorry for the child. If she is in fact 18, that's what she is. It's unfortunate that the mistakes she's made while she was young are going to kill her eventually.

I have the deepest sympathies for her, and her family. I wish her many more years, and let's hope they find a cure along the way.
i agree, but in the americas being a whore is generaly accepted and these are the consequences....i hope a lot of girls learn from this insted of taking the easy road.
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I agree, while I feel bad that anyone has to go through something like HIV or anything else that is life threatening and changing. I don't think she deserved it, but at the same time it was in part her own fault and that's something you just have to live with so forgive me for not joining the sympathy party.
Would you feel the same way if she were a close friend? Would you still have no sympathy for her?

We all take risks in life. Sometimes, the risks don't pay off. I take a risk by crossing the street. If a car plows through the red light and hits me, is that partially my fault because I'm on the street?
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Honestly now..... double anal with no condom? Double anal anything is just not right. You surely dont need to do that to make it thats for sure. Poor kid fucked up, no real 2 ways about it.
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Would you feel the same way if she were a close friend? Would you still have no sympathy for her?

We all take risks in life. Sometimes, the risks don't pay off. I take a risk by crossing the street. If a car plows through the red light and hits me, is that partially my fault because I'm on the street?
You really are fucking retarded, aren't you?

A closer analgoy would be this:

If you are crossing the street, at an unmarked cross walk on a major highway, and you get hit by a car .. Is it partially your fault? Damn fucking straight.
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It seems you're all taking offense at the word whore. Well as I see it we're all whores with different pimps regardless of what biz we're in. I wouldn't degrade these women for their chosen career. But feeling sorry for her when she makes her own choices and pretty much simply because she's female.
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This is real life, not a fucking movie. You have no reason to be showing your asses in public like this.
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Would you feel the same way if she were a close friend? Would you still have no sympathy for her?

We all take risks in life. Sometimes, the risks don't pay off. I take a risk by crossing the street. If a car plows through the red light and hits me, is that partially my fault because I'm on the street?
crossing the street and getting fucked in the ass by two guys at the same time for money.....hmmmm i can see how you can compare the two.....your a very smart shemanbitch arnt you
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We all take risks in life. Sometimes, the risks don't pay off. I take a risk by crossing the street. If a car plows through the red light and hits me, is that partially my fault because I'm on the street?
stop it now, that analogy is retarded. Walking across the street compared to double cock in the ass without condoms is ludacris man. Cmon really
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This is real life, not a fucking movie. You have no reason to be showing your asses in public like this.
All I did was speak a little truth. I never said a damn thing against this girl .. Other than to agree with someone, that she is in fact, a whore.

You can spin it anyway you fucking want. Content model = whore.
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Would you feel the same way if she were a close friend? Would you still have no sympathy for her?

We all take risks in life. Sometimes, the risks don't pay off. I take a risk by crossing the street. If a car plows through the red light and hits me, is that partially my fault because I'm on the street?
I feel sympathy for anyone that has to suffer something like she will. But I don't see this as some huge tragedy like you drama queens are making it out to be. She did what she did of her own choice she sacrificed the odds on her health for money and she gets to live with it. I feel that way for anyone. AIDS is pretty easily avoidable among all the sexually transmitted diseases. So if you get it through sex then you're most likely not playing it smart and that's no ones fault but your own.
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It seems you're all taking offense at the word whore. Well as I see it we're all whores with different pimps regardless of what biz we're in. I wouldn't degrade these women for their chosen career. But feeling sorry for her when she makes her own choices and pretty much simply because she's female.
Personally, I'm not feeling sorry for her because she's a female. I'm feeling sorry for her because she contracted HIV when she was led to believe that the guy was clean. Hell, I feel sorry for Darren James too for contacting it, regarless of what risks he took.

Like you said, no one deserves to contract HIV. I also feel no one deserves to be degraded and insulted because of the line of work they're in, especially during trying times.
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Honestly now..... double anal with no condom? Double anal anything is just not right. You surely dont need to do that to make it thats for sure. Poor kid fucked up, no real 2 ways about it.
18 yr olds can be quite impressionable, wouldn't you say? Let's not cast any blame on the two fuckers and the guy holding that camera and anyone else who may have coerced her into doing that kind of scene.
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I'm sorry . When you're far away from home in LA getting pumped in the ass by TWO cocks at once .. And getting paid for it .. What else should we call her if not a whore?

There's no fucking shades of grey here at all.

It's not like the poor girl did a little softcore to pay her way through college, now is it?
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still laughing here......you're good comic relief for me in this very disturbing crisis.
theres nothing worse then a whore on the loose...we should have never given you bitches any rights

thats why the world is so immoral and on the edge of ww3 now, sluts, hoes, whores and bitches like you
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Personally, I'm not feeling sorry for her because she's a female. I'm feeling sorry for her because she contracted HIV when she was led to believe that the guy was clean.
I supppose ignorance about HIV is commonly accepted amongst the bulk of the population .. But if you're going to work in an industry based around sex, and participate in having sex with multiple partners .. Wouldn't you become an expert?

Are you trying to tell me, this poor girl actually believed that testing people every 3 or 4 weeks was a 100% safeguard against any of them being HIV positive? Somebody should have told her.
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18 yr olds can be quite impressionable, wouldn't you say? Let's not cast any blame on the two fuckers and the guy holding that camera and anyone else who may have coerced her into doing that kind of scene.
Or the $$$ in her eyes. Really man they can all take the blame every last one of them for making irresponsible selfish decisions.
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18 yr olds can be quite impressionable, wouldn't you say? Let's not cast any blame on the two fuckers and the guy holding that camera and anyone else who may have coerced her into doing that kind of scene.
I hear ya man, but double anal? I mean how do you go about coercing someone into that shit :/ thats tragic in itself alone. Let alone walking away with a crippling disease. But I know exactly what you mean
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All I did was speak a little truth. I never said a damn thing against this girl .. Other than to agree with someone, that she is in fact, a whore.

You can spin it anyway you fucking want. Content model = whore.
So are you also gonna spend an hour proving that 1 plus 1 equals 2? Or that the sky is blue?

Or that food go in and poo go out?

Christ, if you're gonna spend all day posting pedestrian drivel that's both irrelevant and trite, why not whore an ARS banner in your sig?

Get a fucking life. Go fuck yourself.
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I hear ya man, but double anal? I mean how do you go about coercing someone into that shit :/ thats tragic in itself alone. Let alone walking away with a crippling disease. But I know exactly what you mean
I doubt she was coerced in to ANYTHING.

You'll notice in Dugmor's thread advertising for her, he outright stated she was willing to do "anything even double anal"

You usually don't have to twist somebody's arm to do something they're advertising they do.
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stop it now, that analogy is retarded. Walking across the street compared to double cock in the ass without condoms is ludacris man. Cmon really
It's one risk vs another.

She had no reason to believe the guy was HIV+. If she did, that's a different story.

If she was aware that this dude had been fucking in Brazil and that AIDS ran rampant there, and decided to fuck nonetheless, sure, then sure, it would be at least partially her fault.

The fact that she took double cocks in the ass really doesn't matter. She could have taken just one cock in the ass or a cock in the pussy or even just given a blowjob and contracted HIV.
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I doubt she was coerced in to ANYTHING.

You'll notice in Dugmor's thread advertising for her, he outright stated she was willing to do "anything even double anal"

You usually don't have to twist somebody's arm to do something they're advertising they do.
I'll give ya that
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So are you also gonna spend an hour proving that 1 plus 1 equals 2? Or that the sky is blue?

Or that food go in and poo go out?

Christ, if you're gonna spend all day posting pedestrian drivel that's both irrelevant and trite, why not whore an ARS banner in your sig?

Get a fucking life. Go fuck yourself.
I don't need to whore anything in my signature. I make plenty of money on my business. That's why I come to this forum, to meet business contacts .. Not a few pennies for a sig view.

Right back at you pal, you can go fuck yourself too

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It's one risk vs another.

She had no reason to believe the guy was HIV+. If she did, that's a different story.

If she was aware that this dude had been fucking in Brazil and that AIDS ran rampant there, and decided to fuck nonetheless, sure, then sure, it would be at least partially her fault.

The fact that she took double cocks in the ass really doesn't matter. She could have taken just one cock in the ass or a cock in the pussy or even just given a blowjob and contracted HIV.
True...the whole situation is fucked to be honest with you.
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I supppose ignorance about HIV is commonly accepted amongst the bulk of the population .. But if you're going to work in an industry based around sex, and participate in having sex with multiple partners .. Wouldn't you become an expert?

Are you trying to tell me, this poor girl actually believed that testing people every 3 or 4 weeks was a 100% safeguard against any of them being HIV positive? Somebody should have told her.
Somebody should have told her. You're right. She's a young girl and she's very new to the business. Newbies make mistakes. Unfortunately, some mistakes are graver than others.
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I doubt she was coerced in to ANYTHING.

You'll notice in Dugmor's thread advertising for her, he outright stated she was willing to do "anything even double anal"

You usually don't have to twist somebody's arm to do something they're advertising they do.
Whatever dude. He also stated that she was only 3 months into the biz.

What you doubt and what really happened are probably two different things.
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It's one risk vs another.

She had no reason to believe the guy was HIV+. If she did, that's a different story.

If she was aware that this dude had been fucking in Brazil and that AIDS ran rampant there, and decided to fuck nonetheless, sure, then sure, it would be at least partially her fault.

The fact that she took double cocks in the ass really doesn't matter. She could have taken just one cock in the ass or a cock in the pussy or even just given a blowjob and contracted HIV.
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this sucks. My heart goes out to her, her family and the rest of the people who had sex with this guy.
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It's one risk vs another.

She had no reason to believe the guy was HIV+. If she did, that's a different story.
If you're working in the adult industry, doing hardcore anal sex .. You have no reason to believe that just because someone passes a test every 4 weeks, that they are 100% HIV Free. If you're going to have sex with multiple partners, and unprotected .. You're putting yourself at risk.

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If she was aware that this dude had been fucking in Brazil and that AIDS ran rampant there, and decided to fuck nonetheless, sure, then sure, it would be at least partially her fault.
She's shocked that somebody acted with por character and judgment? In this fucking business? Umm okay.


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The fact that she took double cocks in the ass really doesn't matter. She could have taken just one cock in the ass or a cock in the pussy or even just given a blowjob and contracted HIV.
BINGO .. And if you're going to do it over and over again, with multiple different partners ... Your chances of getting HIV are that much greater. How could anybody be surprised this happened?
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I doubt she was coerced in to ANYTHING.

You'll notice in Dugmor's thread advertising for her, he outright stated she was willing to do "anything even double anal"

You usually don't have to twist somebody's arm to do something they're advertising they do.
Double anal = bigger payouts. It's as simple as that.
Everyone has a price. I'm sure she'd get into scat or watershowers or gangbangs too if the money was right. Most people here, guys or girls, models or not, would too.
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Whatever dude. He also stated that she was only 3 months into the biz.

What you doubt and what really happened are probably two different things.
SO she was forced in to doing it once ... And then decided she'd just advertise to do it again?
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If you're working in the adult industry, doing hardcore anal sex .. You have no reason to believe that just because someone passes a test every 4 weeks, that they are 100% HIV Free. If you're going to have sex with multiple partners, and unprotected .. You're putting yourself at risk.

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BINGO .. And if you're going to do it over and over again, with multiple different partners ... Your chances of getting HIV are that much greater. How could anybody be surprised this happened?
Like I said, this girl was very new to the business. She's young and impressionable. If someone in a position of authority wants you to believe something, you probably will. Especially when your paycheck is on the online. She made a mistake. All newbies do, no matter what industry they're in. Unfortunately her mistake is potentially fatal.
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2. A foolish or stupid person; a blockhead; WarChild: ?Sorry .. but in my book when you have sex for money, you're a whore. It doesn't matter I make money off it .. Or how convient it makes my life. Sex for money = whore. It's simple? (WarChild).


Good job on totally fucking up your reply to Warchild. Basically it looked like he dropped an intelligent point and all you could do in reply is give the finger. Your reply reminds me of the French in WW2.
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SO she was forced in to doing it once ... And then decided she'd just advertise to do it again?
Is there really any sense in speculating? My point was that most 18 yr olds are pretty impressionable, and although are legally able to make adult decisions are often not street-wise enough to do so. Couple that with the fact that she could have been lured by the money at a time when she was desperate for it, also possibly being promised some fame, notoriety etc.... and it's a recipe for a tragic result.

Who knows what things were said to her, what assurances she got, what outright lies she may have been told? Really.... who knows? Those that do know may choose to post about it, who knows?
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Good job on totally fucking up your reply to Warchild. Basically it looked like he dropped an intelligent point and all you could do in reply is give the finger. Your reply reminds me of the French in WW2.
Read the rest of the thread. You'll see a later replied to his "intelligent point".
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If you read this entire post from beginning to end, it's hard to argue with Warchild.



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theres nothing worse then a whore on the loose...we should have never given you bitches any rights

thats why the world is so immoral and on the edge of ww3 now, sluts, hoes, whores and bitches like you
Actually, the world has worked very well with sex striving and not causing wars - well beyond 2000 years. The wars are caused by power, greed, need and religion (you must have just crawled out from under the rocks).

Call all the girls that fucked you only because of your money what you like but refrain from any further attempts to offend me. With my husband, I can be whatever I please. Sex for money - no, I only know hard labour, long hours and sleepless nights. As for being a bitch, only for a week while PMS'ing - anything else?
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