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Indeed 09-25-2003 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog
Like this couldn't have been handled simply by emailing Brad. Brad is solid. He's never ripped anyone off. He offered to pay Amp, and amp declined. What the hell makes you (Lens) and Amp believe that he wouldn't have paid if he had been asked to privately? I wholeheartedly believe he would have. He is one of the most honest people in the business.

And even if you didn't believe he would pay (for some fucked up reason), you couldn't have at least <i>tried</i> before dragging someone's name through the mud?

He paid for those designs in good faith. He offered to pay the original designers for them. Amp said that it was duane that owed him, and not Brad. I don't see the problem.

Using the stolen car analogy:

Amp sells his car to Duane, and Duane sells it to Brad. Duane never pays Amp for the car, and Brad realises, oh shit.. this car is stolen. Brad offers to pay Amp for the car, having already lost a bunch of money to Duane. Amp declines, and says he'll get the money that Duane owes him. That means Amp ends up with the cash he is entitled to. Brad gets the designs he paid for. Duane ends up with nothing.

Amp's inability to collect from Duane makes Brad the crook? What the fuck are you guys smoking?

Again. Handled privately, i have no doubt that Brad would have paid if he was asked. This thread is a fucking joke.

that pretty much sums it all

vapewiz 09-25-2003 12:12 AM

If he's suck a crook how come his banner is flying on here today? Did he pay for it? This is cheep you take the mans $$ for a banner spot then try to make him look bad like this... :ugone2far

Brad you are top notch in my book if it matters and you've offered to right this whole thing now the ball is in their court. :2 cents:

Honeyslut 09-25-2003 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by integrated


ill substitute for him ok airhead?

okay dickless

broke 09-25-2003 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
This is FUCKED UP. The man is begging you to call him and settle the matter, so FUCKING CALL HIM.

I guess it's true, that having money does not equate to maturity.

Before this thread was started, was Sin contacted? From reading every post in the thread I see no evidence of that.

But I DO see that Amp has not ONCE contradicted Sin's claim that he offered Amp money almost a year ago.

Remove the blinders, look at the situation from an unbiased eye, and call them man.

SHIT!

:thumbsup

TheJimmy 09-25-2003 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by Tibetan Pimp


Then why are you using the designs? Riddle me that.

Even after you found out the goods were tainted.. you still used them. WTF. How is that NOT taking a shortcut?

here's the scenario I'm imagining on how that might work...

a lil story that'd go something like this...


You buy a design or two, whatever, for 6k...

few months later you find out you got jacked by some jackers...

so you go to try and rectify the jacking with the people that originally got jacked....

you consider all jack-worthy offenses unjacked....

and move forward with the expensive piece of work you've just acquired that took cash, time and some extra bonus smoothing you didn't plan on...




kinda like when you get bacon strips in your undies...you wash them, sometimes a second time with bleach...but ya still wear them sooner or later eh?


;-)

liquidmoe 09-25-2003 12:13 AM

From whats been said so far I dont think Brad's name or his program has been tarnished. A bit of mud slinging but so far Brad hasnt said anything that would detract from him, and there hasnt been proof that Brad has been avoiding the issue or some how attempting to scheme the situation into not paying.

liquidmoe 09-25-2003 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheJimmy


here's the scenario I'm imagining on how that might work...

a lil story that'd go something like this...


You buy a design or two, whatever, for 6k...

few months later you find out you got jacked by some jackers...

so you go to try and rectify the jacking with the people that originally got jacked....

you consider all jack-worthy offenses unjacked....

and move forward with the expensive piece of work you've just acquired that took cash, time and some extra bonus smoothing you didn't plan on...




kinda like when you get bacon strips in your undies...you wash them, sometimes a second time with bleach...but ya still wear them sooner or later eh?


;-)

A good pair of underwear is hard to come by. :1orglaugh

TheJimmy 09-25-2003 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by ytcracker


thanks jimmy


anytime hombre'


:thumbsup

Ludedude 09-25-2003 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by JupZChris
Lens and AMp will either make you or break you .. pay them and they will say " Your a stand up guy "

dont pay him and you wont hve a single customer for the next 10 years.

Wow, you really are high. Must be some good shit :rasta :arcadefre

ytcracker 09-25-2003 12:14 AM

lens is going to win an xbox with this thread

congrats

Tibetan Pimp 09-25-2003 12:14 AM

I ask this.

Say this gets settled. Say Amp gets paid.

What happens next week when someone sees another stolen design in Brad's program?

Don't you see the shit that this attracts.

Does this allow brad to go rip off as many designs as he wants, and when the owner comes-a-knocking, simply offer to pay then?

beemk 09-25-2003 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
This is FUCKED UP. The man is begging you to call him and settle the matter, so FUCKING CALL HIM.

I guess it's true, that having money does not equate to maturity.

Before this thread was started, was Sin contacted? From reading every post in the thread I see no evidence of that.

But I DO see that Amp has not ONCE contradicted Sin's claim that he offered Amp money almost a year ago.

Remove the blinders, look at the situation from an unbiased eye, and call the man.

SHIT!


Mr Pheer 09-25-2003 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheJimmy
kinda like when you get bacon strips in your undies...you wash them, sometimes a second time with bleach...but ya still wear them sooner or later eh?
BACON STRIPS!! Ahahahaha!!!

Skid Marks... They're not just for underwear :)

TurboAngel 09-25-2003 12:16 AM

:glugglug

Lensman 09-25-2003 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie

The point here isn't to get paid, it's to lynch Brad.
If the point was to get paid, a phone call would've been made the minute Brad announced his program.

Brad has offered multiple times in this thread to pay for the sites - just as he did a year ago. And Amp is not speaking up - just as he didn't speak up a year ago.

It's a lynching, plain and simple. Money was never the goal.

Except that Amp didn't start this thread, I did.

Simple fact is that Brad never offered to pay Amp. I pay him highly, and it's improper to use his work without paying him regardless of how he came into possession of it.

Brad Mitchell 09-25-2003 12:17 AM

I just don't get it... why? why? What have I done to deserve a public lynching for something I've never been given the opportunity to correct? Why haven't either of you called me? Why aren't you responding to my comments about how I thought we were friends?

Is this some SWOIT kind of rouse or what? I mean, I bought advertising on GFY this afternoon but this isn't the kind of thread I thought we'd hump to bring attention to my new program.

This hurts Lens and Amp.

Brad

liquidmoe 09-25-2003 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman


Except that Amp didn't start this thread, I did.

Simple fact is that Brad never offered to pay Amp. I pay him highly, and it's improper to use his work without paying him regardless of how he came into possession of it.

Does that mean a request for payment has been made to Brad today regarding the designs, because it doesnt look like he refused payment?

BlueDesignStudios 09-25-2003 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
lens is going to win an xbox with this thread

congrats

:1orglaugh

Sausage 09-25-2003 12:18 AM

This thread really irks me ...

Ok ... sure it's not a design job, but recently a certian Dialer was sold to a certian huge Sponsor Program, and while we are only still owed a few $thousand rumor has it that if you are owed $ its gonna be REALLY hard to get them..... unless you are someone big and *important* that is.

Same thing, same principle, but I haven't seen many threads on it, or it even mentioned once.

Amputate Your Head 09-25-2003 12:18 AM

Invoice will be posted here.


coming soon....


but first.....


Brad, I want a temp pass to the members areas, so I can justify my invoice. (all of them) And a week is unacceptable. Access me now, while they are live. Otherwise I will be forced to speculate. You can email me at a/m/p/@a/d/u/l/t/./c/o/m/

remove the slashes.

PrivateEye 09-25-2003 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cutetwink
If he's suck a crook how come his banner is flying on here today? Did he pay for it? This is cheep you take the mans $$ for a banner spot then try to make him look bad like this... :ugone2far


Attacking the advertising again?

Somebody call Brad Shaw at home and wake him up he would enjoy this :1orglaugh

Lens and Amp both attacked him for how he handle business on here....he got fucked on alot more money and nobody offered to pay him back...but this poor bastard is getting stabbed in the back with no warning at all. Seems to me like he is having to beg...lol...funny shit

Deeprub

Donny 09-25-2003 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by Lensman


So you were going to cut a check without this thread? Hahaha

Did anyone privately email him and ask him to?

Amp does NOT contradict Sin's claim to attempt to pay him a YEAR ago.

Sounds like a good man to me.

I can tell you ONE THING, though.... after reading this thread I WILL NOT BE CUTTING A CHECK for advertising on GFY (I fully intented to advertise this month: I had Eric email ad rates to me yesterday). I now see how advertisers are treated.

A private phone call or email would likely have resulted in a check being issued.

This is VERY, VERY fucked up!

integrated 09-25-2003 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut


okay dickless


that hurt

i know its small please dont pick on me

neewwman 09-25-2003 12:20 AM

This is totally fucked.

Calling someone out on this board should be an absolute last resort.

Brad is more concerned than anyone else I know about his reputation for integrity and fair dealing. Making all this public before there was a fair effort to resolve it privately is a sucker punch.

No one has yet disputed Brad's version of the facts, although some apparently think he should have just walked away from a $6,000 investment. Seems to me that if he offered compensation and Amp didn't take it, Brad's in the clear.

chodadog 09-25-2003 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Invoice will be posted here.


coming soon....

An invoice should have been the first thing sent to Brad's email. You should have given him a chance to pay you without dragging his name through the mud. I simply can't believe the lack of professionalism in this thread.

XxXotic 09-25-2003 12:20 AM

this is wacky

Mr Pheer 09-25-2003 12:21 AM

somebody lock this thread

integrated 09-25-2003 12:21 AM

this thread is as full as a prostitute on a Saturday night

liquidmoe 09-25-2003 12:22 AM

This thread could have been avoided it seems.

Amputate Your Head 09-25-2003 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by neewwman
Brad is more concerned than anyone else I know about his reputation for integrity and fair dealing.
oh really?

Lensman 09-25-2003 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog


An invoice should have been the first thing sent to Brad's email. You should have given him a chance to pay you without dragging his name through the mud. I simply can't believe the lack of professionalism in this thread.

He was on notice about stolen designs. Enough said.

vapewiz 09-25-2003 12:23 AM

WAS BRAD BANNED? IF SO THAT IS BULLSHIT. :2 cents:

Ludedude 09-25-2003 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by Lensman


He was on notice about stolen designs. Enough said.

How much to buy this treatment for someone else who stole one of mine? :winkwink:

4Pics 09-25-2003 12:23 AM

Where's Fantasyman and Serge when you need them.

Donny 09-25-2003 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by neewwman
This is totally fucked.

Calling someone out on this board should be an absolute last resort.

Brad is more concerned than anyone else I know about his reputation for integrity and fair dealing. Making all this public before there was a fair effort to resolve it privately is a sucker punch.

No one has yet disputed Brad's version of the facts, although some apparently think he should have just walked away from a $6,000 investment. Seems to me that if he offered compensation and Amp didn't take it, Brad's in the clear.

A-fucking-men!

Honeyslut 09-25-2003 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by integrated



that hurt

i know its small please dont pick on me

Then don't call me an airhead..

:)

If you guys are going to dish it out at me, don't fucking whine when I give it back


( fucking )


:Graucho

TheJimmy 09-25-2003 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer


BACON STRIPS!! Ahahahaha!!!

Skid Marks... They're not just for underwear :)

HELL yeh :)


BACONNNNNNN


(thinking of that funny ass commercial with the dog that's obsessed about the BACONNNNN)


thank god for beef bacon, I never bought that shit about it being the 'other white meat'

Lensman 09-25-2003 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


A-fucking-men!

Let everyone know the url to to take your work from.

Ludedude 09-25-2003 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut



( fucking )


:Graucho

Pics?

Mr.Fiction 09-25-2003 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cutetwink
WAS BRAD BANNED? IF SO THAT IS BULLSHIT. :2 cents:
Brad and Labret in the same thread? :1orglaugh


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