precisely.

You fuckers better listen to Shemp.... this man is smart.

:helpme j/k

I have no clue about this situation. But nothing is worse then working and not getting paid for it..

First time I read that I thought you said you fucked your sister-in-laws kids :repuke :1orglaugh

thats how i feel about all this damn chinese traffic I got :1orglaugh

Did Brad make any promises not to use the designs since it was obvious that after he bought them he eventually found out about the fraud. If he did then it's certainly a fuct situation regardless of whether or not he got ripped off.

amen

Been there done that to the tune of like $4-5K this May. :(

Uh oh, Lens is mad.

What the fuck you gonna do you goofy rainman looking bitch? Half the dorks on this board could beat you into a coma before you took your glasses off.

Amp, fight your own battles.

:helpme

Someone has a fan :Graucho

i have been reading and not posting in this thread because it doesnt pertain to myself.. nor does it have anything to do with you so take your clown shoes and get the fuck out... sorry to say that folks but ive had enough of stupid retarded "fictional" people today

Bottom line is, they are his designs and he was not paid for them.

you are going to get banned mofo

sounds like jealousy to me:1orglaugh

Because nobody seems to quite have the proper chain of events, here is the short course.

Some guy named Duane/Pensfan screwed a lot of people. I never knew he existed. At some point I was dealing with Traci at LiquidbyDesign and bought some banners. Conversations with her led to me buying an 'unlaunched' program site and all of it's associated paysites. I was just told that they were a result of a failed partnership, I had no reason to doubt that at the time.

Well, I got duped. After sending them money for the designs and domains I found out months later that the whole premise under which I made the purchase was quite a bit of lying. They weren't Traci's sites to sell, she was working on behalf of this other person. They weren't simply sites that weren't launched, they were sites that weren't launched with disputes and unpaid bills all around them.

Everything about the Pensfan ended up getting sorted out here on GFY. Concurrently, I did a public search here on GFY to try to find any other artists that might have contributed to the designs so that I could personally try to make ammends with them if their bill was left unpaid. I was able to find a few, including Amp, and everyone's response to me that the bill was Pensfan's and not mine even though I offered to make things right.

As far as I could tell I resolved any concerns about the website designs. They sat out of commerce for about a year since the time I bought them and this week they finally got launched. As far as I knew, this issue was put to rest a long, long time ago.

I'm just in shock, I can't believe this thread even exists. Everything I've always done has been above board and SinBucks is no exception. Amp, if you feel that I owe you money because Duane didn't pay you then for christ's sake I would have thought that with all of our friendly conversations in the past that you would have had the sense to discuss this with me. I already offered once a long time ago. I know I had ICQ transcripts from it but a long time ago you moved to a new ICQ number.

I thought that we were friends, that there was a level of trust and respect between us, and you're hanging me out to dry for a crime that someone else committed.

Brad

Who cares what you think you two bit washed up internet whore.

Do I have to sign the motherfucker labret?

This is what I was wondering about. If Brad made attempts to compensate the designers or settle matters before launching the site then why is there beef now?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

waits for Amp's reply

washedup? shit i just started.. and hell i dont have to come onto boards with a "alter ego" to feel powerful :)

You should have dumped the sites when you found out they were dirty.

You KNEW this was a problem. You assessed the risk. You chose to launch.

Sleep in the bed you make.

Bye Labret.

i love it. :thumbsup

He says though that he made attempts to seek out the designers and compensate them, if thats the case he was attempting to fix the situation and compensate those who were actually cheated and still have a product that he spent money on.

oh please dont ban me again massa

This whole thing reminds me of Acacia.
"I'll wait until you start making money with it, THEN i'll throw a fit and demand my money."

In the thread referenced, Brad listed off all of the sites/designs he had purchased and asked the designers of those sites to step forward so he could pay them. If Amp wanted his money, right there was the opportunity to get it.

Now nearly a year later Amp is crying foul? Better yet, Amp is having Lensman cry foul rather than doing it himself?

:ugone2far

attention whore:321GFY

pimple dog ?

:Graucho

200

Owned :ak47:

Jesus. This is like buying a car, finding out that it's stolen, putting a sign in the window..

"this car was stolen and I bought it, if it is yours, let me know."

Then you park the car in your garage for a year.

Decide one day to take it for a drive and get caught with it.

Your rebuttle was.. "But.. But.. I tried to find out who the owner was."

DON'T FUCKING DRIVE THE CAR.

Brad. I woudn't come down so hard... but you always act like your shit "don't stink". Do the right thing, pull the sites.

me too! brad doesn't seem to be intentionally wanting to rob people of designs. why drag the issue out on a the public board before attempting to sort things out privately first anyways?

So if someone is selling stolen content, somehow the buyer has rights to it?

:helpme

:1orglaugh

So then how did the conversation between Brad and Amp go when he was looking to compensate designers way back when?

I don't see what else he could have done...esp if he said he'd spoke to AMP about it in the past...was it a beat around the bush convo? Or did you guys 'talk talk' about it? The only ones that can answer that is you two...


All I can guess is that Brad pissed in someone's wheaties and it's drama time tonight?

nonetheless, an interesting show

:glugglug

Well timed :thumbsup