you're an idiot.

that's the REAL issue here....no need for 17 pages of bullshit....If you get on the boss' badside, no matter what you do, you're fucked..

:1orglaugh ok I'll read more pages...

don't call idiots people trying to make non self-important things short to accomplish more work. :321GFY

Amp, what was your business relationship with duane? partnership? broker? what?
if you had ANY type of business relationship with him than Brad owes you nothing. Zero. Go sue your business partner for your share of the profits.
If the work was stolen by duane, a person you had no business relationship with, then Brad should take down the designs and go after duane.

So which is it?

hmmmmm:Graucho

The wiseman has pointed his finger.

looks like I took second option as a fact

Trying to make non self-important things short to accomplish more work?

looks like you know how to copy paste. maybe you could teach that to me?

This is why I got out of the graphic design biz in 1994 :1orglaugh

Still waiting on that invoice. Boy, must have been one hell of a party last night, eh Amp?

Brad

Starting to look more like an effort to discredit your program. Might be worth sending traffic to then! :Graucho

None from me

I think we should wrap this one up.

In summary:

Pensfan, aka Buck Naked hired Amp and some other designers to do sites for him, Amp and most likely the other designers never got paid. That's old news, it's been on this board for long time.

Their contract, whether written or a handshake, is "you design it, I pay for it, then I own it". Well if it's not paid for, then the person who ordered it doesn't own it.

Afterwards, Pensfan sold the sites to Brad SinEmpire, and later Brad discovered that at least part of them were not Pensfan's to sell. There is an old thred on this. He had conversations with Amp, and this is where Amp and Brad disagree about what happened. Brad say Amp didn't want to be paid, Amp disagrees.

I was discussing designs with Amp, and he told me that he didn't get paid for some of the work that SinEmpire is now using. I was outraged, and started this thread. There is nothing wrong with asking someone on GFY if they are going to "do the right thing"?

The good news is that Brad now agrees to pay Amp for his designs. Amp will email him a bill.

Brad agrees to do the right thing.

I started this thread, now it is time to end it. I think Brad should have the last word, but nothing but the primary parties have anything to add at this point. I am locking this thread, dragging on overnight is enough. If Brad wants the final word, I will unlock it for him.