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Fletch XXX 04-22-2003 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary
Theres nothing more fun than content providers eating their own. LOL

got that right.

jact 04-22-2003 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Kenneth K



Well, if thats all missing, gees... our biz is 100% legit, even with the danish version of IRS...

That's a major omission though, the law specifically lays out that a company cannot be a custodian and it must be a person.

freeadultcontent 04-22-2003 04:39 PM

Well lemme see, I am not listed but I am also compliant. Custodians name and company name both posted. Physical address of our office that is our primary place of work and business (staffed 90% of the time 6 days a week during business hours). All shoots individually labled, and sorted by date with serial numbers.

basschick 04-22-2003 04:40 PM

a good thing to keep in mind is that some people have custodial info listed but don't have anyone there a lot of the time, so even if a content provider lists their custodial info, it doesn't mean that they are fully compliant.

i'd love to see a list of the providers that have someone at their custodian's address from 9 - 5.

Kenneth K 04-22-2003 04:40 PM

Danish laws are a bit different regarding that.

It must be a legal person signing the paper on behalf of the company... But since Denmark isnt the biggest in adult, I doesnt think theres any reason to make it set the standards...

EscortBiz 04-22-2003 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
a good thing to keep in mind is that some people have custodial info listed but don't have anyone there a lot of the time, so even if a content provider lists their custodial info, it doesn't mean that they are fully compliant.

i'd love to see a list of the providers that have someone at their custodian's address from 9 - 5.

I was about to say this

stocktrader23 04-22-2003 04:42 PM

While this thread is here I figured I'd ask.

When I buy content and use it for a website is it OK just to link to the 2257 info of the provider?

And how many TGP submitters aren't compliant? :winkwink:

Kenneth K 04-22-2003 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
a good thing to keep in mind is that some people have custodial info listed but don't have anyone there a lot of the time, so even if a content provider lists their custodial info, it doesn't mean that they are fully compliant.

i'd love to see a list of the providers that have someone at their custodian's address from 9 - 5.


We actually work in those hours :) And of course all of the other hours :winkwink:

basschick 04-22-2003 04:42 PM

freeadultcontent, just went to your site. i don't see your custodial info listed. where is it?

TDF 04-22-2003 04:43 PM

I sale real good 2257 compliancy..do as I sez not as I does

http://www.xenaproductions.com/legal.html

Rockstar 04-22-2003 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


Show me the mistake and I will fix it. Just as the initial post AND that web page state.

Just for the record
I personally don't think AaronM is trying to hurt anyone
I believe he is just posting the information. And I for one do appreciate it. I don't feel that he is slandering anyone nor do i believe that is his intention.

We NOW have this information posted and thanks for the heads up
http://www.faproductions.com/title18.htm

freeadultcontent 04-22-2003 04:43 PM

Basschick click the giant title 18 button at the top of the main index. You must enter the site.

Aivengo 04-22-2003 04:44 PM

Hi AARON,

SEX-MODELING and AIVENGO PRODUCTIONS
www.sex-modeling.com always had accordance
with the requirements of US Federal Law SECTION 18 U.S.C. 2257

The records required by Section 2257 of Title 18 of the United States Code
with respect to visual depictions of actual sexually explicit conduct are kept by
the custodian of records, VLADIMIR AIVENGO, who can be reached at
[email protected]

jact 04-22-2003 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rockstar


Just for the record
I personally don't think AaronM is trying to hurt anyone
I believe he is just posting the information. And I for one do appreciate it. I don't feel that he is slandering anyone nor do i believe that is his intention.

We NOW have this information posted and thanks for the heads up
http://www.faproductions.com/title18.htm

Is it linked yet?

stocktrader23 04-22-2003 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rockstar


Just for the record
I personally don't think AaronM is trying to hurt anyone
I believe he is just posting the information. And I for one do appreciate it. I don't feel that he is slandering anyone nor do i believe that is his intention.

We NOW have this information posted and thanks for the heads up
http://www.faproductions.com/title18.htm

Good deal, will the info on each page be changed also?

jact 04-22-2003 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
Basschick click the giant title 18 button at the top of the main index. You must enter the site.
I'd suggest making your custodial information available without making someone sign up. Since, uh, I believe the law can be interperited in this manner.

AaronM 04-22-2003 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rockstar


Just for the record
I personally don't think AaronM is trying to hurt anyone
I believe he is just posting the information. And I for one do appreciate it. I don't feel that he is slandering anyone nor do i believe that is his intention.

We NOW have this information posted and thanks for the heads up
http://www.faproductions.com/title18.htm

Looks good. Your listing has been updated.

Thank you for playing. :glugglug

basschick 04-22-2003 04:47 PM

freeadultcontent - must one sign up in order to access your 2257 info?

Aivengo, you must have the actual address where the content is listed on your site AND you must actually be there from 9 am to 5 pm to show i.d. to any law enforcement. if all you have is your email address, that is not according to 2257.

AaronM 04-22-2003 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aivengo
Hi AARON,

SEX-MODELING and AIVENGO PRODUCTIONS
www.sex-modeling.com always had accordance
with the requirements of US Federal Law SECTION 18 U.S.C. 2257

The records required by Section 2257 of Title 18 of the United States Code
with respect to visual depictions of actual sexually explicit conduct are kept by
the custodian of records, VLADIMIR AIVENGO, who can be reached at
[email protected]


Exactly.

Go to jail, go directly to jail. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Thanks for proving my point.

Call an attorney before you embarrass yourself again.

quiet 04-22-2003 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary
Theres nothing more fun than content providers eating their own. LOL

Its like watching vultures work on a corpse.

POPCORN!!!!

:glugglug

AaronM 04-22-2003 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact


I'd suggest making your custodial information available without making someone sign up. Since, uh, I believe the law can be interperited in this manner.

Yes, it can.

I do not recall the exact wording and I am too tired to look it up right now, but you are right.

I was not THAT picky though.

stocktrader23 04-22-2003 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
While this thread is here I figured I'd ask.

When I buy content and use it for a website is it OK just to link to the 2257 info of the provider?

And how many TGP submitters aren't compliant? :winkwink:


bump uhhhh down?

Kenneth K 04-22-2003 04:54 PM

Aaron, well, everything is now in place

Nydahl 04-22-2003 04:55 PM

I think I have something to do on tommorow
thanks for usefull info , I will fix the problem on our site asap :thumbsup

freeadultcontent 04-22-2003 04:55 PM

Basschick, the one I just pointed out is for the webmasters. If you check our rules we have this line in it.

For linking to our title 18 documentation please use this url, otherwise it is not publically accessable. http://www.free-adult-content.com/title18.htm

Which is for webmasters to link to. That requires no one to join.

Rockstar 04-22-2003 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


Looks good. Your listing has been updated.

Thank you for playing. :glugglug

Thanks Aaronm!!

Jact
yes its linked
http://www.faproductions.com

If anyone has a question let me know
icq 177606166

AaronM 04-22-2003 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kenneth K
Aaron, well, everything is now in place
Sweetness....Your listing is updated now. :winkwink:

EscortBiz 04-22-2003 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rockstar


Thanks Aaronm!!

Jact
yes its linked
http://www.faproductions.com

If anyone has a question let me know
icq 177606166

The correct way to write your address is:

3545 MCcall PL STE E

MichaelAncher 04-22-2003 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


They day you become compliant and notify me then I will fix it.

You are NOT compliant.

I would appreciate it very much, if you would clarify your statement about my compliance.
I have stated in my License that I'm the record holder of any documentation needed according to
section 18 U.S.C. 2257 US Federal law, and it's also stated at my cover/index page.
So what's missing...??? Or what do you miss..??

AaronM 04-22-2003 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MichaelAncher


I would appreciate it very much, if you would clarify your statement about my compliance.
I have stated in my License that I'm the record holder of any documentation needed according to
section 18 U.S.C. 2257 US Federal law, and it's also stated at my cover/index page.
So what's missing...??? Or what do you miss..??

I did not miss anything. Read the thread. Your question has already been answered.

Fix it, let me know that it is fixed, and I will update the listing. Untill then, start kicking yourself for not asking a US attorney about US laws when you are selling to US clients.

Shame on you. :1orglaugh

basschick 04-22-2003 05:13 PM

why do so many people miss this part?

you need a link to your custodian info on the cover page or the main page, not text that says you comply. or even simply the custodial info on the page.

Kimmykim 04-22-2003 05:13 PM

The fact of the link and where it is may prove to be quite important at some point...

Just throwing up a page that no one can find easily is not a good idea.

AaronM 04-22-2003 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
you need a link to your custodian info on the cover page or the main page, not text that says you comply.
Or at least in a "prominant location"

I do not consider the licens agreement to be a prominant loaction, BUT...At least Micheal did post it. That is more than some others did.

Micheal, I will update the listing because the info is there but I would suggest you post it as the law specifies.

freeadultcontent 04-22-2003 05:24 PM

The way we have been doing was approved by our lawyer. Despite that I went ahead and added an additional link to our cover page just for webmasters piece of mind.

AaronM 04-22-2003 05:24 PM

Sorry I spelled Michael incorrectly. :glugglug

AaronM 04-22-2003 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
The way we have been doing was approved by our lawyer. Despite that I went ahead and added an additional link to our cover page just for webmasters piece of mind.
No offense meant to you, but there are lawyers who tell their clients to list the law firm as the custodian of records. In other words, not all lawyers are providing the best advice for their clients.

jcnlv 04-22-2003 05:34 PM

Hi,

This thread was just brought to my attention... also noticed we are *not* on the list you are using.

http://www.bestadultcontent.com/HOME

once inside the site, click on the LEGAL INFO link towards the top of the page...

any reason our legal page does not pass?
If it does... please add us to your list as compliant.

Thanks,

foe 04-22-2003 05:38 PM

yes

MichaelAncher 04-22-2003 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


I did not miss anything. Read the thread. Your question has already been answered.

Fix it, let me know that it is fixed, and I will update the listing. Untill then, start kicking yourself for not asking a US attorney about US laws when you are selling to US clients.

Shame on you. :1orglaugh

Just for your info, I know excatly what paperwork I need to sell to US clients. I have been selling content/pictures for the past 25 years to the biggest magazines in US, inclusive Playboy and Penthouse, and there have never been any one of their attorneys, pointing any fingers at the releases or ID's I have provided. So I'm sorry to say, I can't follow you. Maybe there's something I am missing, since english is not my first language.
Please inform...
:) :)

freeadultcontent 04-22-2003 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


No offense meant to you, but there are lawyers who tell their clients to list the law firm as the custodian of records. In other words, not all lawyers are providing the best advice for their clients.

No offense taken AaromM, as everyone knows many lawyers all dissagree on how this law is interpreted. Ive always done my best to make sure we were compliant.

It is prominatly posted inside the site.
It was linkable from outside the site with directions on how to do so.
Now it is also included on the very first page of the site.

AaronM 04-22-2003 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MichaelAncher


Just for your info, I know excatly what paperwork I need to sell to US clients. I have been selling content/pictures for the past 25 years to the biggest magazines in US, inclusive Playboy and Penthouse, and there have never been any one of their attorneys, pointing any fingers at the releases or ID's I have provided. So I'm sorry to say, I can't follow you. Maybe there's something I am missing, since english is not my first language.
Please inform...
:) :)

YOUR WEBSITE IS NOT exactly COMPLIANT

Can you follow that?

You may be doing EVERYTHING correctly on your end BUT you have to publish it correctly on your site. Your license agreement has the info and because of your incessant whining, I have even updated your listing......Kinda. :1orglaugh

EscortBiz 04-22-2003 05:55 PM

The people who are in serious legal trouble related to shooting content are not the ones with a address issue, and they dont even see it commin, like the GGW and 5 others in the past 90 days.

For those who where at the CT thing know exactly who and what im talking about.

MichaelAncher 04-22-2003 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


YOUR WEBSITE IS NOT exactly COMPLIANT

Can you follow that?

You may be doing EVERYTHING correctly on your end BUT you have to publish it correctly on your site. Your license agreement has the info and because of your incessant whining, I have even updated your listing......Kinda. :1orglaugh

Okay, I heard you....:1orglaugh

So it's a matter of writing it "political correct"
I find someone on your list which is approved, and do some "copy and paste"
Thank's for your patience...:)

Amputate Your Head 04-22-2003 05:59 PM

oh look... it's the website compliancy police.... :glugglug

EscortBiz 04-22-2003 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
oh look... it's the website compliancy police.... :glugglug
Welcome back

AaronM 04-22-2003 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
oh look... it's the website compliancy police.... :glugglug
If we do not police ourselves...Then who will? Oh yeah, the Government.

Who would you prefer to have point out the problem if it was a concern for you?

Sassyass 04-22-2003 06:11 PM

How do we get on the list?

basschick 04-22-2003 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


If we do not police ourselves...Then who will? Oh yeah, the Government.

Who would you prefer to have point out the problem if it was a concern for you?

well said!

would they rather we pointed it out, or the police while they took them off to jail? i sure know which one i'd prefer!

AaronM 04-22-2003 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick


well said!

would they rather we pointed it out, or the police while they took them off to jail? i sure know which one i'd prefer!

Exactly. Scott from adultlease.com is crying on my ICQ right now.

[17:52] AdultLease.com: well my friend before I fire back on gfy I am not sure it was cool to do it the way you did.... I am not saying it's not helpful just went about it wrong
[17:53] AaronM: IMO...Anybody who does not follow the law to the T is guilty of going about it wrong. I posted facts and the fact is that your site is not compliant. Get pissed and fire back if you like but if I were you, I would fix the problem then notify me so that I can update the listing.
[17:54] AdultLease.com: Who the fuck made you judge and jury ?


His respone was AFTER I took my time to explain why his site is not compliant. [sarcasm]How grateful is that?[/sarcasm]

Some people just don't get it.

basschick 04-22-2003 06:20 PM

i guess they'd rather find out from a REAL judge and jury :(

but the webmasters that trust their content provider's word that the content is legal deserve better. why don't web content producers simply put a link to their custodian of records info on their main page? i don't get it....


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