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Old 07-25-2014, 06:47 AM   #51
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Russia bans dairy imports from Ukraine starting next week - http://bigstory.ap.org/article/russi...mports-ukraine

Russia may suspend all food imports from Ukraine - http://www.cnbc.com/id/101859639

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Nationalist Bullshit -- if the USA was deprived of all the grain that came from the states of Nebraska, Kansas and Iowa we would be in deep shit. That is only a part of our grain production. Who else will export the grain you require -- China

Meantime, the surplus grain production from Ukraine can be turned in ethanol fuel in the US. This will free up oil in the US to replace embargoed Russian Petrol along with increased OPEC production.

Putin is leading the Russian Federation into a hole just like George W. Bush caused calamity at home and around the world.

China is a net grain importer



Russia won't be eating bread made with sawdust but all the grain exports will be gone -- see anyone that will export to "mother russia" on this list? Maybe, Kazakhstan? They may fear Putin's rebels ...


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if you where not so hot on your own words. jerking of on your nation and your president, you had some time left to read the article and come with a much more smarter reply. But I think cynical intimidation towards everyone but yourself is the only thing you are good at.
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looks that you missed that Russia also occupies fairly large piece of that doughnut



(meaning they don't need to import the wheat from anyone - on the contrary they sell it)
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looks that you missed that Russia also occupies fairly large piece of that doughnut



(meaning they don't need to import the wheat from anyone - on the contrary they sell it)
You wont have the export revenue anymore ... So, how are you going to pay for that loaf of bread -- it's super inflation. Maybe not so bad as what preceded Hitler's Third Reich...

I know by personal account of the old Soviet Union of the 1970s and 1980s -- I lived with a Russian immigrant girlfriend for a while -- she told me how "great they had it" under Brezhnev. You don't want to repeat that ...


So, just why is Eastern Ukraine so important for Russia to control? Apart from the obvious -- territory and wealth. That is the sort of thinking that starts wars. You think that is a good idea? How many Russians died in WW2? Want to go down in flaming glory for a shit hole like Nazi Ukraine -- you really believe that shit?
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Well, that totally depends about their total consumption and what they can get from elsewhere. At least they can get hungry.
Russia is one of the largest wheat exporters in the World. So I don't think we will get hungry. It will just decrease the export to other countries (the last lime it did, it was one of the key factors for the Egypt revolution - no j/k)



The USA sells 28 million tonnes of wheat a year, while Russia sells 10.5. Taking into account that Russian population is about 1/3 of the US one, and that Russia is a northern country, that's a pretty good number
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Russia is one of the largest wheat exporters ...bla bla captain obvious *...

The USA sells 28 million tonnes of wheat a year, while Russia sells 10.5. Taking into account that Russian population is about 1/3 of the US one, and that Russia is a northern country, that's a pretty good number
So, you think Russia will exist in comfort without export revenue and restricted imports? How far do you want to push this -- "Glorious Leader Putin" has the nuclear suitcase there.

The Eastern Ukraine territory and its wealth is worth the risk of war? You Russians have some super secret war survival plan? Better think again ... Cockroaches will rule the earth again with that sort of thinking.

This isn't some cold war pissing contest -- welcome to the 21st Century.

Ukraine is a sovereign nation, Russia is a sovereign nation -- they share an international border that is established by international agreement. So, the Russian government refuses to abide by that agreement and wants to annex lands they have alienated like Crimea. That's as valid as the Tsar's imperialistic annexation of Circassia The Russian?Circassian War started by Tsar Peter the Great. Do they teach that in history class in Russia, I assume so ... (revised obviously).

So "Tsar Putin the Great" wants to walk the people of Russia down the same path as "Saddam the Great (the new Nebuchadnezzar [or some psycho crap like that])" who tried to annex Kuwait -- lands stolen for the old Babylonian empire.

Tsarist Empire <=> Babylonian Empire = Same Shit. The only difference is that Russia does really have WMDs, that is an established fact. That leaves few options and is incredibly stupid.
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[INDENT]So, you think Russia will exist in comfort without export revenue and restricted imports?
Export revenue from selling wheat, weapon etc is nothing comparing to the gas and oil revenue figures. So as long as the EU and China will buy Russian oil and gas, nothing will affect this country.

P.S. Today I heard that if the next level of sanctions will be lifted, Shell and BP may lose all their actives in Russia... Source: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/25/07/2014/938903.shtml
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The Netherlands is taking her job serious, we are sending the KCT (Korps Commandotroepen) to Donetsk so our people can do their job without having those amateur rebels fucking up their jobs. No idea how Poetin will react on this, but who cares. The people we send are the best of the best.

Many time I had to hear here we as The Netherlands are to soft and underestimate the situation. But when it comes to serious investigation, we have some tax money left to do the job good.

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The "rebels" are in fact amateurs - all around.

Anyone can run a military campaign; A few handfuls of people armed with assault rifles can quickly create anarchy, and toss in some tanks and some armored vehicles and suddenly you have a war. But they have no government functions at this point... They have removed the government, replaced it with a military like fighting force, but nothing else....
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Great, no one called your bluff ... Seriously, I am tired of the nationalism game. Sooner or later things like this could escalate. Most of us are little more than pawns in some chess game. You wonder why some people get whack and become preppers ...
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Great, no one called your bluff ... Seriously, I am tired of the nationalism game. Sooner or later things like this could escalate. Most of us are little more than pawns in some chess game. You wonder why some people get whack and become preppers ...

CyberAssieHole gets a PutinPay debit load every time he posts something Pro-Russian on an English Speaking Board.
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[INDENT]Great, no one called your bluff ...
The OPP (Obama Propaganda Patrol) does it all the time. The brainwashed idiots don't understand that I can not support Putin or so, because they suck Obama's cock and sincerely believe that citizens of other countries do the same to their presidents. Personally I simple ignore the motherfuckers.
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[P]ersonally I simple ignore the motherfuckers.
The reports I get here are how Putin's approval ratings have had a dramatic increase since this whole Ukraine-Russia "controversy - engagement (or whatever)" indicating the poll approval of Putin's handling of this whole matter -- do you agree that is true? You are on the street is Russia, not me.

Your own opinion matters to you, but you know as well as I do that the majority of the public's attitude will shape a governments actions, right of wrong is of little consequence. The American people bought the Bush dance of a Saddam with WMDs that must be stopped. The German people in 1937 bought Hitler's Third Reich, the list goes on ...
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The Netherlands is taking her job serious, we are sending the KCT (Korps Commandotroepen) to Donetsk so our people can do their job without having those amateur rebels fucking up their jobs. No idea how Poetin will react on this, but who cares. The people we send are the best of the best.

Many time I had to hear here we as The Netherlands are to soft and underestimate the situation. But when it comes to serious investigation, we have some tax money left to do the job good.

Source for Dutch readers or Translate Google People http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/m...mando_s__.html
This amateur rebels already having experience in real war with heavy armor and jets. Do you really believe your soldiers will able to do anything without support of big brother? You silly.
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The OPP (Obama Propaganda Patrol) does it all the time. The brainwashed idiots don't understand that I can not support Putin or so, because they suck Obama's cock and sincerely believe that citizens of other countries do the same to their presidents. Personally I simple ignore the motherfuckers.
The PPP (Putin Propaganda Patrol) can only regurgitate what they read I see. Another PutinPay Debit load for you comrade.

You haven't gotten flooded with support requests yet? Need to increase the drip on that leak I guess.

I know you read every single 1 of my posts!

And yes I am a motherfucker just ask my youngest son, he is about your age.
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I don't think the dutch will mourn over eliminated tooth-less incestuous half drunk russian rebels with weapons from the Crimean War....
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The Netherlands is taking her job serious, we are sending the KCT (Korps Commandotroepen) to Donetsk so our people can do their job without having those amateur rebels fucking up their jobs. No idea how Poetin will react on this, but who cares. The people we send are the best of the best.

Many time I had to hear here we as The Netherlands are to soft and underestimate the situation. But when it comes to serious investigation, we have some tax money left to do the job good.

Source for Dutch readers or Translate Google People http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/m...mando_s__.html
Likely a little late to have much effect on the investigation. The rebels and Russians have certainly destroyed any useful evidence by now, but at least it's a show of force and shows the rest of the EU they need to get off their asses. Ukraine should be an issue for the EU to resolve, but it seems like usual they want to sit back and have the US fix it then bitch about us later.

So I say even though it's likely to have little effect, it's still good NL is doing something with out waiting on the EU.

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Likely a little late to have much effect on the investigation. The rebels and Russians have certainly destroyed any useful evidence by now, but at least it's a show of force and shows the rest of the EU they need to get off their asses. Ukraine should be an issue for the EU to resolve, but it seems like usual they want to sit back and have the US fix it then bitch about us later.

So I say even though it's likely to have little effect, it's still good NL is doing something with out waiting on the EU.
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The Netherlands is taking her job serious, we are sending the KCT (Korps Commandotroepen) to Donetsk so our people can do their job without having those amateur rebels fucking up their jobs. No idea how Poetin will react on this, but who cares. The people we send are the best of the best.

Many time I had to hear here we as The Netherlands are to soft and underestimate the situation. But when it comes to serious investigation, we have some tax money left to do the job good.

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Impossible, that must be Russian propaganda...nothing else.
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Looks like your nation chickend out Again
So will they send the or not. I'm confused now
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Russian propaganda ? Go on company website and check for yourself.

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Burisma is a private oil and gas company operating in Ukraine. Having started in 2002, the Company has grown rapidly to become one of Ukraine?s largest independent gas producers, with licences covering the country?s three key hydrocarbon basins, including Dnieper-Donets, Carpathian and Azov-Kuban.

Keeping in mind that the Dnieper-Donets basin which lies in the hotly contested eastern part of the nation and where as everyone knows by now a bloody civil war is raging, is the major oil and gas producing region of Ukraine accounting for approximately 90 per cent of Ukrainian production.
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http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-join...isma-holdings/

Burisma is a private oil and gas company operating in Ukraine. Having started in 2002, the Company has grown rapidly to become one of Ukraine?s largest independent gas producers, with licences covering the country?s three key hydrocarbon basins, including Dnieper-Donets, Carpathian and Azov-Kuban.

Keeping in mind that the Dnieper-Donets basin which lies in the hotly contested eastern part of the nation and where as everyone knows by now a bloody civil war is raging, is the major oil and gas producing region of Ukraine accounting for approximately 90 per cent of Ukrainian production.
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When we are talking about troops, someone translate for us please:

Nothing to translate actually. The Ukrainian soldiers are seeking for Russian citizenship.

P.S. The former Ukrainian soldier told that they are starving. They are eating a one-day food packet during 5 days.
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I find it difficult to understand how calm Dutch are now - so many citizens killed and still no action from Dutch government, just more warnings to Putin who clearly doesn't give a shit.
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I find it difficult to understand how calm Dutch are now - so many citizens killed and still no action from Dutch government, just more warnings to Putin who clearly doesn't give a shit.
Yes. As I told in one of my previous posts, the smartest Ukrainians citizens move to Russia. And it doesn't matter what part of the country they are from. E.g.: https://translate.google.com/transla...2F&sandbo x=1
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:45 PM   #89
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I find it difficult to understand how calm Dutch are now - so many citizens killed and still no action from Dutch government, just more warnings to Putin who clearly doesn't give a shit.
What do yoy want them to do ????

Send a few windmills ????
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troops? 40 men from Dutch military police + 2 medical experts
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I find it difficult to understand how calm Dutch are now - so many citizens killed and still no action from Dutch government, just more warnings to Putin who clearly doesn't give a shit.
Dutch government is not on drugs and may be there a few not so stupid people who clearly understand something...like why Ukrainian government hiding some important information, why investigation wasn't performed, why there was ukrainian military jet near Boeing and other. There are a lot of assholes on this forum and in the world who love to blame other without evidence.
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Dutch government is not on drugs and may be there a few not so stupid people who clearly understand something...like why Ukrainian government hiding some important information, why investigation wasn't performed, why there was ukrainian military jet near Boeing and other. There are a lot of assholes on this forum and in the world who love to blame other without evidence.
well I agree there
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Dutch government is not on drugs and may be there a few not so stupid people who clearly understand something...like why Ukrainian government hiding some important information, why investigation wasn't performed, why there was ukrainian military jet near Boeing and other. There are a lot of assholes on this forum and in the world who love to blame other without evidence.
Blaming other without evidence (or faked evidence) worked so many times before...no reason not to try it again
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