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Originally Posted by stoka looks that you missed that Russia also occupies fairly large piece of that doughnut (meaning they don't need to import the wheat from anyone - on the contrary they sell it)

You wont have the export revenue anymore ... So, how are you going to pay for that loaf of bread -- it's super inflation. Maybe not so bad as what preceded Hitler's Third Reich...

I know by personal account of the old Soviet Union of the 1970s and 1980s -- I lived with a Russian immigrant girlfriend for a while -- she told me how "great they had it" under Brezhnev. You don't want to repeat that ...


So, just why is Eastern Ukraine so important for Russia to control? Apart from the obvious -- territory and wealth. That is the sort of thinking that starts wars. You think that is a good idea? How many Russians died in WW2? Want to go down in flaming glory for a shit hole like Nazi Ukraine -- you really believe that shit?