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Rochard · 03-01-2014, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcin978

i'm talking about Krym, there are 60% Russians

So if a large percent of a city, county, province, or state is mostly another nationality that gives another country the right to invade it?

Does this mean Ireland can take Boston from the US?

Does this mean Japan can claim San Francisco?

Can Mexico "take back" Texas?

The answer is no.

pornmasta · 03-01-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BettingHandle

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Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by evy97

He don't give shit about cheap ukrainians.

Said by a cheap slovakian asshole.

Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew

% Rissians in Ukraine

Kiev - 13.1%
Sevastopol (capitol of Crimea) - 71.6%
for example - etnical russians in Russia - 70% only

about Hitler...plz read about invasion of Grenada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada
and to use google or wikipedia for more info about invasion of Afganistan, Iraq, Serbia, Cuba, Livia, Panama, Dominikana, Vietnam, ets...

Big Mistake.

They are not Russians. They are Ukrainian citizens who speak Russian.

Back in the USSR days Russian language took over in many areas of Ukraine, and not Ukraine only but in many others Soviet Republics.

Once The Soviet Union collapsed those people CHOSE to live in Ukraine, got Ukrainian passports and became citizens.

pornmasta · 03-01-2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Once The Soviet Union collapsed those people CHOSE to live in Ukraine, got Ukrainian passports and became citizens.

you have an house and a family and you stay where you are not matters if it is ukraine or not

femdomdestiny · 03-01-2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap

So the UN should have just sat back and done nothing? And allowed another shitfest like the last time?

You are a Serb yep?

Not sure about what last time you are talking about. We are talking about arming muslim terrorists to kill , and kidnap people. They were terrorist organization even for their US sponsors, until they they needed them as excuse for invasion. To save your time,paste from wikipedia:

[I]In February 1998, U.S. President Bill Clinton's special envoy to the Balkans, Robert Gelbard, condemned both the actions of Serb government and of the KLA, and described the KLA as, "without any questions, a terrorist group".[10][43][44] UN resolution 1160 took a similar stance.[45][46]
But the 1997 US Department's terrorist list hadn't included the KLA.[47] In March 1998, just one month later Gerbald had to modify his statements to say that KLA had not been classified legally by the U.S. government as a terrorist group,....

just a punk · 03-01-2014, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

It was clear invasion and open ground war on Kosovo. NATO and Albanian army trying for months to crush Yugoslav army. Once they couldn't get through, brutal bombing of civilians started as retaliation for a military failure and example what will happen if army don't step back. Tons of content online, if you want to find them.

Yes I know about it. It just seems there are some brainwashed persons that have no clue

Manfap · 03-01-2014, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Not sure about what last time you are talking about.

Selective memory.

Not that it was entirely Serbia's fault but the Bosnian/Croat/Serb tussle that got somewhat out of hand.

just a punk · 03-01-2014, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Said by a cheap slovakian asshole.

Just FYI:

GDP per capita in Ukraine: $3,867
GDP per capita in Slovak Republic: $16,847

Oops

just a punk · 03-01-2014, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

They are not Russians. They are Ukrainian citizens who speak Russian.

Actually ALL national Ukrainians are Russians. They are Russians from Western Okraina (Ukraine) of Russia (AKA Malorossia). Kiev was a capital of Russia if you forgot that. You can deny it as many times as you want (хоть до усрачки), but you are Russian too

just a punk · 03-01-2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Once The Soviet Union collapsed those people CHOSE to live in Ukraine, got Ukrainian passports and became citizens.

Of course not. Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich have decided for ALL of us (the citizens of the USSR). Nobody asked us where we want to live.

Educate yourself

Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

you have an house and a family and you stay where you are not matters if it is ukraine or not

How is that related?

Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Of course not. Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich have decided for ALL of us (the citizens of the USSR). Nobody asked us where we want to live.

Educate yourself

Ah, I forgot, you're used to do what you're being told to. Go fuck yourself then.

pornmasta · 03-01-2014, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

How is that related?

they don't decice in which country they want to live, they stay where they live because they live THERE, no matter what's the name of the country

femdomdestiny · 03-01-2014, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

And for six months leading up to the incident Hitler was screaming about how Germany had to protect Germans in Poland. Then it staged an incident that gave them the excuse to invade.

Now we have Russia claiming the need to protect Russians in Ukraine, and an incident has taken place giving Russia a reason to invade.

Not seeing much of a difference.

Well, that is a matter of basic personal intelligence, if you have problem seeing difference
in two, not so complex events.

Russians intervened after violence is initiated by nazi supporters that whose videos you can see all over this site,also.

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Originally Posted by Rochard;

They didn't? Very strange, because at no point in time did Ukraine move troops or put troops in Russia. On the other hand, Russia has moved troops into Ukraine and has taken over both airports and government buildings.

How in the world can you say Russia didn't attack first?

Russians citizens asked for help because of threats they are getting from guys like Alexandr Muzychko that already were killing Russians on Checen side and that is not something new. Maybe it is for you but not for them especially if they consider him responsible for slaughter of groups of marines and his clear message that he will fight Jews and Russians till the end. Anyway,there are no clashes yes and probably won't be because they will enter zones where people are asking for them and where is majority of Russian population.

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Originally Posted by Rochard;

Not caring. Really, completely not caring. This is like Mexicans here in California being upset because Spanish isn't a national language. They don't live in Russia, they live in Ukraine, and Russian is not the national language there.

Comparing Mexicans and their culture with Russian could be considered insult as I am concerned.But that is irrelevant, and your example is not good, because no one didn't take their right that Russians already had. That move clearly is showing what is planned for them.(as addition to open threats that no one could stage but they are there,available in this moment)

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Originally Posted by Rochard;

Wut?

The bulk of the people in Ukraine want closer financial ties with Europe, but their President did the direct opposite, the government legally removed the President, and then Russia invades Ukraine and who are the Nazis here?

You serious? Government acted under threat of weapons and made decisions under those conditions. President was legally elected and accepted by whole civilized world. They decided to change things with violence without taking in consideration what will happen next. And if you are not familiar with nazi origin and ties , please browse boards here or just google it. It is ok not to be familiar with situation on the other side on planet, just like I don't know anything about Mexican rights, but ignoring historical facts and way how they declare is really irresponsible.
And what about another half of country that wants economic ties with Russia instead of empty promises from EU?

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Originally Posted by Rochard;

And how exactly did that end? I read this morning Russia still has troops in Georgia...

Precisely, bad for ordinary people. Ukrainians should vote for government or separation of country. If russians are smart,they will ask for that and stop further offensive measure.

just a punk · 03-01-2014, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Ah, I forgot, you're used to do what you're being told to. Go fuck yourself then.

You're not? You live in Poland, right? Are you are Poland citizen? You are not. Why? because you can't (you still have an Ukrainian passport). You're just a miserable immigrant there (you're less than nothing). So go fuck yourself, looser.

eipstudios · 03-01-2014, 11:45 AM

A leader of the Ukrainian radical group Pravy Sektor (Right Sector), Dmitry Yarosh, has called on Russia?s most wanted terrorist Doku Umarov to act against Russia in an address posted on Right Sector?s page in VKontakte social network.

The statement points out that ?many Ukrainians with arms in the hands? supported Chechen militants in their fight against Russians and ?it is time to support Ukraine now.?

The message, signed ?leader of Right Sector Dmitry Yarosh? then calls on Umarov ?to activate his fight? and ?take a unique chance to win? over Russia.

femdomdestiny · 03-01-2014, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap

Selective memory.

Not that it was entirely Serbia's fault but the Bosnian/Croat/Serb tussle that got somewhat out of hand.

Selective or not, still much better then not knowing facts and who to blame for war in Bosnia :

On 18 March 1992, all three sides signed the agreement; Alija Izetbegović for the Bosniaks, Radovan Karad?ić for the Serbs and Mate Boban for the Croats.
On 28 March 1992, however, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and declared his opposition to any type of division of Bosnia, after meeting with then US ambassador to Yugoslavia, Warren Zimmermann, in Sarajevo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_p..._Bosnian_ War

pimpmaster9000 · 03-01-2014, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

[I]In February 1998, U.S. President Bill Clinton's special envoy to the Balkans, Robert Gelbard, condemned both the actions of Serb government and of the KLA, and described the KLA as, "without any questions, a terrorist group".[10][43][44] UN resolution 1160 took a similar stance.[45][46]
But the 1997 US Department's terrorist list hadn't included the KLA.[47] In March 1998, just one month later Gerbald had to modify his statements to say that KLA had not been classified legally by the U.S. government as a terrorist group,....

just to add, former US secretary of state madelene allbright accuses the KLA of human organ trafficking and interpol claim they control 70% of the heroin trade in europe but im sure they are just ""freedom fighters""

Lykos · 03-01-2014, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

So if a large percent of a city, county, province, or state is mostly another nationality that gives another country the right to invade it?

Does this mean Ireland can take Boston from the US?

Does this mean Japan can claim San Francisco?

Can Mexico "take back" Texas?

The answer is no.

Well that's exactly what Albanians did in part of Serbia called Kosovo...

Got in last 30 years, fuck like rabbits, make 2 mils of them there... take guns, kill citizens etc... our military try to stop it, it gets worse, our army gets in... put them out...
And there you go NATO boomb bad Serbians , lol

And Kosovo is de facto Serbian land for a century ... and 600 years before that while we were under Turkey...

What did US got in return? Biggest army base ever, so now they can throw boombs on Russia or China if they want

Man all this political games are so lame ... makes me wanna puke from them..
Only normal people will suffer no one else.. that's why i say i hope there won't be wars and people don't die anywhere ! And my country can be called whatever i don't care... as long as we live peaceful and normal life... my 2 cents.

klinton · 03-01-2014, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Well, that is a matter of basic personal intelligence, if you have problem seeing difference in two, not so complex events.

CDSmith · 03-01-2014, 11:55 AM

Funny thing is, Ukraine is situated perfectly to profit from both the EU and Russia. And set themselves up as a natural go-between for the two. AND provide Russia with trade access through Sevastopol via lease and trade agreements. Of course that would require that everyone over there shut the hell up and quit chirping at each other through the media, then sit down and actually hammer (and sickle) out a win-win-win scenario for everyone -- Ukrain, EU, Russia.

But what do I know, I'm just a dopey redneck Canadian living on the prairies where it's -40C today and who happens to like vodka but am all out.

klinton · 03-01-2014, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Comparing Mexicans and their culture with Russian could be considered insult as I am concerned.

and why is that ?

pornmasta · 03-01-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

and why is that ?

Слава means glory and mexican aren't glorious ... and they eat beans :p

Manfap · 03-01-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Selective or not, still much better then not knowing facts and who to blame for war in Bosnia :

On 18 March 1992, all three sides signed the agreement; Alija Izetbegović for the Bosniaks, Radovan Karad?ić for the Serbs and Mate Boban for the Croats.
On 28 March 1992, however, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and declared his opposition to any type of division of Bosnia, after meeting with then US ambassador to Yugoslavia, Warren Zimmermann, in Sarajevo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_p..._Bosnian_ War

So it was the Americans? The whole area was just one great lovein until the US said no stop that, everyone start killing eachother.

Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

they don't decice in which country they want to live, they stay where they live because they live THERE, no matter what's the name of the country

They have been living there since 1991, dafuk are you talking about?

just a punk · 03-01-2014, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eipstudios

A leader of the Ukrainian radical group Pravy Sektor (Right Sector), Dmitry Yarosh, has called on Russia’s most wanted terrorist Doku Umarov to act against Russia in an address posted on Right Sector’s page in VKontakte social network.

Doku Umarov is a Chechen terrorist (hope the guys here still remember the Boston bombing). We have a good saying about that: "Tell me who's your friend and I'll tell who you are"

Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Funny thing is, Ukraine is situated perfectly to profit from both the EU and Russia. And set themselves up as a natural go-between for the two. AND provide Russia with trade access through Sevastopol via lease and trade agreements. Of course that would require that everyone over there shut the hell up and quit chirping at each other through the media, then sit down and actually hammer (and sickle) out a win-win-win scenario for everyone -- Ukrain, EU, Russia.

But what do I know, I'm just a dopey redneck Canadian living on the prairies where it's -40C today and who happens to like vodka but am all out.

Don't go that hard on yourself, but what you have just suggested is acceptable in a civilized world only.

pornmasta · 03-01-2014, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

They have been living there since 1991, dafuk are you talking about?

in ukraine or in this place where they are ?

Dirty Dane · 03-01-2014, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

deltav · 03-01-2014, 12:13 PM

So much cherry-picked info to suit agendas here, distorted contexts, etc, on both Ukraine, former Yugoslavia, etc, now we're even talking shit about Mexico! Not even worth responding to it, some of you guys are obviously nationalists and proud of your countries but I think you're missing the greater point:

It's bad to invade a sovereign country - I don't care of you're Russia, the USA, or fucking Djbouti - and anyone who uses the excuse "well, the majority of the citizens in such-and-such area are majority our culture" is just making a pathetically flimsy justification for powermongering and domination. End of fucking story. If you're in favor of it, welp, I dunno what to tell ya...

MaDalton · 03-01-2014, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by deltav

So much cherry-picked info to suit agendas here, distorted contexts, etc, on both Ukraine, former Yugoslavia, etc, now we're even talking shit about Mexico! Not even worth responding to it, some of you guys are obviously nationalists and proud of your countries but I think you're missing the greater point:

It's bad to invade a sovereign country - I don't care of you're Russia, the USA, or fucking Djbouti - and anyone who uses the excuse "well, the majority of the citizens in such-and-such area are majority our culture" is just making a pathetically flimsy justification for powermongering and domination. End of fucking story. If you're in favor of it, welp, I dunno what to tell ya...

Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Doku Umarov is a Chechen terrorist (hope the guys here still remember the Boston bombing). We have a good saying about that: "Tell me who's your friend and I'll tell who you are"

Putin just recently accepted Yanukovich under his cover, one con-artist to another.
So guess that does make you look like? Right, a con-fucking-artist.

just a punk · 03-01-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by deltav

So much cherry-picked info to suit agendas here, distorted contexts, etc, on both Ukraine, former Yugoslavia, etc, now we're even talking shit about Mexico!

You know, there are those that can read/watch both English and Russian/Ukrainian sources. And there are those that can read/watch English sources only (you're one of them)

just a punk · 03-01-2014, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Putin just recently accepted Yanukovich under his cover, one con-artist to another.
So guess that does make you look like? Right, a con-fucking-artist.

Me??? I don't give a shit about both Putin and your Yanukovich. So it's not a my problem.

pornmasta · 03-01-2014, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by deltav

So much cherry-picked info to suit agendas here, distorted contexts, etc, on both Ukraine, former Yugoslavia, etc, now we're even talking shit about Mexico! Not even worth responding to it, some of you guys are obviously nationalists and proud of your countries but I think you're missing the greater point:

It's bad to invade a sovereign country - I don't care of you're Russia, the USA, or fucking Djbouti - and anyone who uses the excuse "well, the majority of the citizens in such-and-such area are majority our culture" is just making a pathetically flimsy justification for powermongering and domination. End of fucking story. If you're in favor of it, welp, I dunno what to tell ya...

and how spontaneous is what happened on the Maidan square ?

CDSmith · 03-01-2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sid70

don't go that hard on yourself, but what you have just suggested is acceptable in a civilized world only.

На здоровье!

deltav · 03-01-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

and how spontaneous is what happened on the Maidan square ?

Oh, I've no doubt that the West supported that in one way or another. How much they were able to is questionable. And on the other side you've got Russia jockeying for influence too, much of it's a matter of public record. There was a lot of push/pull with Ukraine in the middle.

But deploying troops on another country's sovereign territory is another issue entirely.

Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Me??? I don't give a shit about both Putin and your Yanukovich. So it's not a my problem.

Wrong. Putin's shadow covered all the Russians now. You've been compromised.

EddyTheDog · 03-01-2014, 12:32 PM

This is going to show up how useless the UN is - How are they going to deal with a country that has a veto?..

Also, I just heard that Russia is going to treat the current government as war criminals.....

Its interesting watching RT then switching to the BBC...

pornmasta · 03-01-2014, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by deltav

Oh, I've no doubt that the West supported that in one way or another. How much they were able to is questionable. And on the other side you've got Russia jockeying for influence too, much of it's a matter of public record. There was a lot of push/pull with Ukraine in the middle.

But deploying troops on another country's sovereign territory is another issue entirely.

After ukraine decided to remove russian as official langage, a part of the country could feel oppressed since they speak more russian as ukrainian (and they don't seem to attack this russian army)
So since, you can establish that some leaders of european countries pushed the revolution in order to reduce the russian influence, i find what happens predictable... It's just my opinion.

pornmasta · 03-01-2014, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Wrong. Putin's shadow covered all the Russians now. You've been compromised.

no kidding ?
Ok, let me guess: now you want to push a revolution in russia...
of course, people have to accept this kind of revolution promoted by puppets...

just a punk · 03-01-2014, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Wrong. Putin's shadow covered all the Russians now. You've been compromised.

Ой боюс боюс!

Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

no kidding ?
Ok, let me guess: now you want to push a revolution in russia...
of course, people have to accept this kind of revolution promoted by puppets...

I want Russia to step back from our ground.

Mutt · 03-01-2014, 12:45 PM

welp - this thread proves my point, Europe never leaves its fucked up history and grudges behind and eventually will bring the world to war again. Pretty much the Middle East with better food and better looking women.

pornmasta · 03-01-2014, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

I want Russia to step back from our ground.

you mean ukraine or Crimea :p ?

Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Ой боюс боюс!

Check the dictionary. It's not a threat. It's a new reality for you that just started.

Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

you mean ukraine or Crimea :p ?

Crimea is a part of Ukraine. So, yes, get the fuck out of the country.

pornmasta · 03-01-2014, 12:48 PM

i wonder what people of crimea think about your statement

Sid70 · 03-01-2014, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

i wonder what people of crimea think about your statement

What if I told you I am from the East, and I have brothers and aunts living there? Dafuk you know, to question me here?

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eipstudios So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Teen Land Posts: 2,001	A leader of the Ukrainian radical group Pravy Sektor (Right Sector), Dmitry Yarosh, has called on Russia?s most wanted terrorist Doku Umarov to act against Russia in an address posted on Right Sector?s page in VKontakte social network. The statement points out that ?many Ukrainians with arms in the hands? supported Chechen militants in their fight against Russians and ?it is time to support Ukraine now.? The message, signed ?leader of Right Sector Dmitry Yarosh? then calls on Umarov ?to activate his fight? and ?take a unique chance to win? over Russia.

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pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,177	i wonder what people of crimea think about your statement