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Old 02-10-2014, 03:43 PM   #51
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Why is it acceptable to you to experiment on toads but not other animals? Toads are a very important part of the natural ecosystem and it always disappoints me when I see little kids smashing them for no reason.
It is not for me IMHO, but that is somewhat that is considered acceptable publicly, it's been practicing for years in schools, but i also find it crazy. Smashing toads - it's internal violence in men, right, but why take that to another level?
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It is not for me IMHO, but that is somewhat that is considered acceptable publicly, it's been practicing for years in schools, but i also find it crazy. Smashing toads - it's internal violence in men, right, but why take that to another level?
How exactly do you think we, as humans, have gained the knowledge that we now have about the human body and also the animal kingdom? Do you think scientists just randomly came up with theories and tested them only when absolutely necessary (i.e. when someone is about to die?)

Insulin is a pretty good example. For many years it came from pig livers. The pig would need to die in order to extract the insulin. Today most of it seems to come from plants. How many diabetics do you know?
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So insulin comes from plants now...
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So insulin comes from plants now...
Just out of curiosity,... where do you think the vials of insulin come from? Prisoners? Or any commonly used hormone for that matter...
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this is really an exception (i do eat pork, beef, chicken, deer, etc).

just imagine native african animal born in colder part of the planet (not his GENETICAL natural environment) not by his choice, completely unused to the environment, limited by space where he could move compared to the space he needs, however healthy and 18 months old, gets killed because of bad GENES?!

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ok, so its time to set a few more things straight. There was ONE financial offer made, and the offer was for the giraffe to stay where it was. Which was unacceptable. Clearly the zoo is more interested in a viable breeding program than in profit. There was ONE offer to take the giraffe, from a zoo in Yorkshire. A zoo which is not part of the overarching body that governs zoos with proper, humane, scientific breeding programs. ie, a zoo which does not meet the requirements for entry into a group that governs zoos. Therefore, not an acceptable place to send the giraffe.
AGAIN, the animal was not "butchered in public", an autopsy was performed. This was deemed a good opportunity to educate the public, both into giraffes and into the science behind these programs. The animal was then butchered behind closed doors and the meat given to other animals just like they are regularly given cow or sheep meat. Autopsies like this provide invaluable information to the ecological efforts to save the more endangered sub species. Killing this one animal has potentially helped the programs in Africa save the last of the Rothschilds Giraffe, which is on the brink of extinction.
Do the outraged people in this thread actually READ, or just skim the headlines and feel the outrage they're told to? Read more than one source, read between the lines.
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somebody is always wrong on the internet, but i really felt sorry about killing this animal.
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Gotta say though, that giraffe meat looked lean as fuck, bet that would taste awesome grilled up and thrown in-between a bun with some lettuce, tomato and condiments.
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Yes.

They are.

They kill whales with bare hands / knives and theys expose children, little children to watch a butcher chopping a giraffe.

That all combined makes them seriously fucked in the head.

My opinion.
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They could have cut his nuts off. Seems someone was more interested in killing something.
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yes beerptrol, I am sure the people who spent their lives studying and working in conservation efforts neglected all the layers of oversight, completely ignored all other options because they're just such a bunch of blood thirsty bastards... right? They only did what, 8 fucking years of vet school? Do you reckon they did that because they just hate animals so much? And thats why they work for a conservation breeding program, for the big bucks and the chance to occasional murder an animal...
it couldnt at all be that you read one half arsed article, bought into the manufactured outrage, and dont actually know anything about anything?
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I think this thread illustrates the stupidity that are rampant in a modern world where we can all easily communicate. It also illustrates a lot of the things that are wrong with modern media today and how people trust most that's being said by an "official news outlet".

Everyone that knows just a little bit about how things actually works in this world, knows never to take what's being said by the media at face value. But people still watch Fox News even thought most people that has just a wee bit of intellect knows they are epic at twisting things and not being truthful. I can get more truth from the fucking gospel channel.

And the fact that British people listen to a dimwit of a reporter (or at least I imagine they do) like this guy just eludes me:


If you really think the killing of this animal was a horrible thing that deserves all this attention, I hope you are a vegetarian or something because if you aren't - you just went full retard.
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Indeed it is a horrible act of cruelty and stupidity. The poor abimal was killed for no fault of its own.
So much for the mother fucker who made man in his own image.
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How exactly do you think we, as humans, have gained the knowledge that we now have about the human body and also the animal kingdom? Do you think scientists just randomly came up with theories and tested them only when absolutely necessary (i.e. when someone is about to die?)

Insulin is a pretty good example. For many years it came from pig livers. The pig would need to die in order to extract the insulin. Today most of it seems to come from plants. How many diabetics do you know?
Side tracking.
Danish retarded adults allow little children watch the butchery, look, funny, yeah.
They are silly fucks.

No other arguments needed to understand that.

If you still need more - go fuck yourself.
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That is the reason why i call it sick. I would never be able to find a person that would voluntarily take a kid to watch the butchery. Normal people use toads for that at it's max.
You would have hated my sister-in-law that used to take her students in to watch human autopsies.

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They could have cut his nuts off. Seems someone was more interested in killing something.
You know the repercussions of doing that to a giraffe?

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So much for the mother fucker who made man in his own image.
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What part was cruel and I am pretty sure giraffes are killed for no fault of their own in Africa too . . . except that they are in Africa with hungry, hungry lions and they look pretty tasty.
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You would have hated my sister-in-law that used to take her students in to watch human autopsies.







You know the repercussions of doing that to a giraffe?



What part was cruel and I am pretty sure giraffes are killed for no fault of their own in Africa too . . . except that they are in Africa with hungry, hungry lions and they look pretty tasty.
Leave your sister alone, you look stupid comparing a human autopsy made for students with a public butchery made in front of a little children.
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Once again, mentally retarded adults to chop a huge animal in front of the little children. Many of them would possibly stay ill for life after the shock or become Brevicks.

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This guy here is a rational individual.

The zoo killed it because there was a risk of inbreeding: a huge issue that could devastate the population of Giraffes at the zoo.

It was killed with a single bolt to the head, killing it instantly.

To complain about one niche case of killing an animal to protect others is ludicrous, especially since there are hundreds of millions of battery hens currently kept in the worst conditions possible for the purposes of farming their eggs.

It always amazes me how people get so angry about the death of one animal, yet always seem to be ones who consume eggs and milk.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather be shot in the head instantly rather than have my nipples pumped daily or my ability to move while I shit eggs reduced to zero.

A little perspective here, people.
you would like perspective?

other zoos offered to house the animal.

a private donor offered 500k euros in order for it to be saved.

perspective, indeed.
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Once again, mentally retarded adults to chop a huge animal in front of the little children. Many of them would possibly stay ill for life after the shock or become Brevicks.

Kids who grow up on farms see this all the time. I'm of the opinion that its socially irresponsible to shelter kids from the truth that their chicken nugget, cheeseburger or bacon is more than an ambiguous piece of meat that comes neatly wrapped in a cellophane and Styrofoam package. Perhaps it will make them appreciate where there sustenance comes from.

I also think we are at a point where zoos have outlived their purpose.
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Once again, mentally retarded adults to chop a huge animal in front of the little children. Many of them would possibly stay ill for life after the shock or become Brevicks.
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Side tracking.
Danish retarded adults allow little children watch the butchery, look, funny, yeah.
They are silly fucks.

No other arguments needed to understand that.

If you still need more - go fuck yourself.
It was done educationally. I didn't see anyone laughing. Project much?
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It was done educationally. I didn't see anyone laughing. Project much?
He feels bad about something terrible that he did at an earlier point in life and is now trying to redeem himself with irrational rants protecting the helpless.

As Devin mentioned, any kid that grew up on a farm/in the country learns about life and death very early on.
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isn't that a kosher killing? Sick fuckers. BTW Brits, check your meat in the supermarkets. more and more meat for the British market is killed the vile and inhumane kosher way to please our immigrant "friends" - check the small print.
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isn't that a kosher killing? Sick fuckers. BTW Brits, check your meat in the supermarkets. more and more meat for the British market is killed the vile and inhumane kosher way to please our immigrant "friends" - check the small print.
^^^ this gentleman has a point

(even though it's called halal in this case)
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^^^ this gentleman has a point

(even though it's called halal in this case)
I knew it was something like that!
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I knew it was something like that!
Bila in CZ introduced halal food for muslim people here and after a huge shitstorm they had to take it out again

Cz people do not hide their xenophobia...
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Cz people do not hide their xenophobia...
It's not xenophobic to protest over a huge backwards step in animal welfare. Only the far-left would think that it's racist to complain about those animals barbaric deaths.
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I don't see anyhing wrong with this.

The animal wasn't killed in front of the children it was a dissection of an animal that was going to die. I would take my kid to something like this, it's interesting and millions of animals are killed for food every day. Death is a fact of life.
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Sid70- I really don't know how many ways you need this stated. It's getting to the point where you are being wilfully ignorant. The animal was killed behind a screen, an AUTOPSY was performed for those members of the public who CHOSE to go. The animal was then butchered behind closed doors to be fed to the big cats. It was NOT butchered in front of anyone. Saying otherwise is intentionally lying.
As others have said, kids on farms see this from a very young age. When I was a boy I helped my dad skin and butcher several cows and one pig. I am not ill, I have not hurt anyone, I am a normal, reasonably adjusted, reasonable, rational human being.

_Richard_- If you bothered to read it has already been explained why neither of these offers were able to be considered. It is discussed in this thread, in several articles, and on the zoo's own site.

The best response I think I can give, to gain a little perspective here, is this: People who run the zoo and breeding program have spent more money on, and time in, uni/college than most doctors do, they often have spent more than a year volunteering at game reserves in Africa, their whole lives revolve around the animals that they are looking after. The zoo is part of an international program and has several levels of oversight and several committees for any major decision. Do you really honestly believe they do not have the best interest of the animal and the species at heart? Do you really honestly believe that you know more/ better than these people? Do you really honestly believe that every option was not exhaustively researched? And lastly, do you really honestly believe that having read a thread on a porn industry forum, and MAYBE one or two articles, that you know more about what they should have done than they do?
Because I dont. I'm fairly sure that the best person to believe is an expert in their field. If you want legal advice, you go to a lawyer, right? If you want financial advice, you go to an accountant. If you want advice about your pet you go to a vet. Well, these people are more specialised than a vet, more passionate than a vet, more educated than a vet, and more in contact with other experts in their field.
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Sid70- I really don't know how many ways you need this stated. It's getting to the point where you are being wilfully ignorant. The animal was killed behind a screen, an AUTOPSY was performed for those members of the public who CHOSE to go. The animal was then butchered behind closed doors to be fed to the big cats. It was NOT butchered in front of anyone. Saying otherwise is intentionally lying.
As others have said, kids on farms see this from a very young age. When I was a boy I helped my dad skin and butcher several cows and one pig. I am not ill, I have not hurt anyone, I am a normal, reasonably adjusted, reasonable, rational human being.

_Richard_- If you bothered to read it has already been explained why neither of these offers were able to be considered. It is discussed in this thread, in several articles, and on the zoo's own site.

The best response I think I can give, to gain a little perspective here, is this: People who run the zoo and breeding program have spent more money on, and time in, uni/college than most doctors do, they often have spent more than a year volunteering at game reserves in Africa, their whole lives revolve around the animals that they are looking after. The zoo is part of an international program and has several levels of oversight and several committees for any major decision. Do you really honestly believe they do not have the best interest of the animal and the species at heart? Do you really honestly believe that you know more/ better than these people? Do you really honestly believe that every option was not exhaustively researched? And lastly, do you really honestly believe that having read a thread on a porn industry forum, and MAYBE one or two articles, that you know more about what they should have done than they do?
Because I dont. I'm fairly sure that the best person to believe is an expert in their field. If you want legal advice, you go to a lawyer, right? If you want financial advice, you go to an accountant. If you want advice about your pet you go to a vet. Well, these people are more specialised than a vet, more passionate than a vet, more educated than a vet, and more in contact with other experts in their field.
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I agree 100%, I vote for a banning on JockoHomo. He's always posting shit. This one was definitely too much.
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It was NOT butchered in front of anyone. .
It fucking was. Those who agreed to take the little children to watch this are fucking ill.
Farmers - what's going on the farm stays on the farm, go fuck your pigs don't tell anyone,
but public butchery i snot the same - the Zoo is made for fun not for freaking farmers
moral uprising.
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It fucking was. Those who agreed to take the little children to watch this are fucking ill.
Farmers - what's going on the farm stays on the farm, go fuck your pigs don't tell anyone,
but public butchery i snot the same - the Zoo is made for fun not for freaking farmers
moral uprising.
I hope you are not planning on breeding.
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_Richard_- If you bothered to read it has already been explained why neither of these offers were able to be considered. It is discussed in this thread, in several articles, and on the zoo's own site.
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so they killed an animal they didn't own?

i bet they had trouble finding a zoo that followed the same set of rules.

they wanted to chop up an innocent animal. we get it.

i apologize i am not a lawyer, a vet, or whoever i need to be in order to be justifed at feeling disgust, horror, and a little anger at the crassness of this action.
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I hope you are not planning on breeding.
You're the man who never say what he really thinks, go on, finish your sentence, I want to see where are you heading to, because it's understood WHERE did you come from.
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There is also a real story. Again, from Denmark. The family had to move the house, so they went to a vet and were told their cat would def be hurt and it would be better to kill the animal then take it to another home, and they did.

Just another Danish "success" story.

So whales, giraffe and a fucking cat. It's pretty much enough to make a picture.
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. I would take my kid to something like this, it's interesting . . .

Which one is your kid?


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There is also a real story?
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Yes, another real story to be precise, fine Sir.
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