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Old 12-11-2012, 05:24 PM   #1
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Son of a fucking bitch. Shut your kid up!

A new neighbor moved in behind my house. For years the house was empty. A wonderful vacation brought on by foreclosure. One of their kids is about 12 years old and is special needs. Not sure what his problem is, but he is basically your typical retarded kid. Only he also has one of those conditions where he doesn't like people touching him or even interacting with him.

His dad seems to be great with the kid and his brother too. His mom seems to be as much of a pain in his ass as he is in mine. They spend all day yelling at each other. When he goes outside he throws all of his brothers stuff over the wall into my yard. His mom will come out to yell at him and then they start yelling bloody murder at 2pm for the entire block to hear. WTF?

I tried mentioning that the kids life is miserable when the dad is gone to the dad. He just shrugged and said he doesn't know what else to do...

So now I am trying to work and this kid is outback screaming. The kind where you hear it and you instantly bound over the fence no matter how out of shape you are and offer assistance because someone is dying... Only he isn't dying... He is just special needs...

Too bad he isn't a dog. Because then I could call the pound and they would send someone out to write them tickets and eventually remove the dog if they didn't get it to shut the fuck up.

fuck!
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:26 PM   #2
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Place speakers facing out your screen door, crank music. War Pigs by Black Sabbath usually works.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:34 PM   #5
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Place speakers facing out your screen door, crank music. War Pigs by Black Sabbath usually works.
Haha... My brother in law once combated a neighbor with a barking dog by going out on his back balcony and barking back at the neighbors house when they got home from work. For two days they thought he was insane. Then they asked a neighbor on their street about the idiot barking on his balcony and the neighbor informed them it is, "probably because he is tired of your fucking dog barking all damn day while you are at work. We all are!"

After that the dog was kept inside...

Well... We are known for throwing some pretty large parties. It has always worked out because the neighbors on either side of my house have their living quarters on their opposite sides of their houses from me. So they don't hear anything with the TV on. Neighbors on adjacent corners didn't hear anything because they have massive trees, bushes, flowering plants that tower over our walls. That back house was always empty so nobody to complain.

We will see how they do on my next party.
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Place speakers facing out your screen door, crank music. War Pigs by Black Sabbath usually works.
This is exactly what I do. My neighbors have a dog they keep in their garage; In two years I've never seen the dog once but I hear it all day long. My office here backs up to their garage and also their bedrooms so any time the dog bothers me... I just crank it up.

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A new neighbor moved in behind my house. For years the house was empty. A wonderful vacation brought on by foreclosure. One of their kids is about 12 years old and is special needs. Not sure what his problem is, but he is basically your typical retarded kid. Only he also has one of those conditions where he doesn't like people touching him or even interacting with him.

His dad seems to be great with the kid and his brother too. His mom seems to be as much of a pain in his ass as he is in mine. They spend all day yelling at each other. When he goes outside he throws all of his brothers stuff over the wall into my yard. His mom will come out to yell at him and then they start yelling bloody murder at 2pm for the entire block to hear. WTF?

I tried mentioning that the kids life is miserable when the dad is gone to the dad. He just shrugged and said he doesn't know what else to do...

So now I am trying to work and this kid is outback screaming. The kind where you hear it and you instantly bound over the fence no matter how out of shape you are and offer assistance because someone is dying... Only he isn't dying... He is just special needs...

Too bad he isn't a dog. Because then I could call the pound and they would send someone out to write them tickets and eventually remove the dog if they didn't get it to shut the fuck up.

fuck!
Speak to her, in the nicest of ways, let's not forget, she's probably at the end of her tether, the child has probably been taking the toll on the relationship & her life. Not your fault, although, you could be the help of life her family & the child needs.

Maybe mention to bring in a home help????

If this doesn't help, maybe move, probably fun & give you a new life too
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There are few things worse than annoying neighbors.

I've dealt with that a couple of times. Once I was lucky enough that they moved out, but the other time I ended up moving.
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V_Rocks, You've had issues with your sisters fucked up animal kids and now the neighbor's children ?
You need to take your child hating crying ass out to a extreme commune where all you do is build bird houses and weave baskets !
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A new neighbor moved in behind my house. For years the house was empty. A wonderful vacation brought on by foreclosure. One of their kids is about 12 years old and is special needs. Not sure what his problem is, but he is basically your typical retarded kid. Only he also has one of those conditions where he doesn't like people touching him or even interacting with him.

His dad seems to be great with the kid and his brother too. His mom seems to be as much of a pain in his ass as he is in mine. They spend all day yelling at each other. When he goes outside he throws all of his brothers stuff over the wall into my yard. His mom will come out to yell at him and then they start yelling bloody murder at 2pm for the entire block to hear. WTF?

I tried mentioning that the kids life is miserable when the dad is gone to the dad. He just shrugged and said he doesn't know what else to do...

So now I am trying to work and this kid is outback screaming. The kind where you hear it and you instantly bound over the fence no matter how out of shape you are and offer assistance because someone is dying... Only he isn't dying... He is just special needs...

Too bad he isn't a dog. Because then I could call the pound and they would send someone out to write them tickets and eventually remove the dog if they didn't get it to shut the fuck up.

fuck!
Check with your city and police what laws they have regarding noise and nuisances. Approach the parents and invite them out for a coffee or drink somewhere away from their property and yours. Create a neutral environment where you can respectfully tell them the situation, offering some "what if's", and allowing them to also suggest a viable solution. Give them a couple days to get back to you.

Meanwhile document everything. Date, time,location, names of people you spoke with (city worker, police, parents). Consider recording the boy each time he is having one of his episodes. Again keeping good notes, date/time.

If the parents fail to follow up with you "as agreed", then write them a formal letter, sent certified/returned receipt, giving them "Notice" to correct the situation. Include a reasonable deadline. Be sure the mention that you sympathize wit their situation but ______. Let them know that should fail to do so, you will being calling the police, and will request the police/city to file Noise/Nuisance charges against them. As a good neighbor, you certainly would not want it to go so far.

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41.57 LAMC: Loud and Raucous Noise ▪ Every person who allows, causes, or permits; ▪ Loud noises from any sound making or amplifying device; ▪ On any private property, public street, of any other public place; ▪ In such a manner as to interfere with the peace and quiet of any person within or upon any of such places. Note: Need to consider hour, place, nature of noise, and any other circumstances.

116.01 LAMC: General Noise ▪ Willfully making or causing to be made or continued; ▪ Any loud, unnecessary, and unusual noise; ▪ Which disturbs the peace or quiet of any neighborhood or which causes discomfort or annoyance to any reasonable person of normal sensitiveness residing in the area. Note: In determining whether or not a noise violates this section, officers should consider the following factors: ▪ Level of the noise; ▪ Nature of the noise (usual or unusual ); ▪ Origin of the noise (natural or unnatural ); ▪ Level and intensity of any background noise; ▪ Proximity of the noise to sleeping facilities; ▪ Nature and zoning of the area; ▪ Density of inhabitation in the area; ▪ Time of day or night the noise occurs; ▪ Duration of the noise; ▪ Whether the noise is recurrent, intermittent, or constant.
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Ive just moved to a new house where the neighbour plays dubstep in his car on the road from about 7am till and 10pm
i like dubstep when i play it but fuck come on surly he must realize that are houses are shacking with his shit
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Ive just moved to a new house where the neighbour plays dubstep in his car on the road from about 7am till and 10pm
i like dubstep when i play it but fuck come on surly he must realize that are houses are shacking with his shit
do you live in Cartagena?.. oh my bad that would be 10pm to 7am.
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There were a couple of idiots who lived in my condo complex (about 10 units with one shared parking lot) They had these 2 out of control Shelties, which are basically herding dogs that belong on a farm.

They barked at everything that moved. They barked in unison. The worst part was these morons kept their windows open all the time, so you had to be like a ninja on the way to your car, or you'd get caught in the middle of a bark explosion. If these dogs heard your hair growing they'd bark.

Of course, these assholes didn't react well to anyone telling them they need to keep their dogs quiet(impossible) or close the windows, which barely helped anyway.

When I saw a moving truck one morning, it made my whole day better.
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There were a couple of idiots who lived in my condo complex (about 10 units with one shared parking lot) They had these 2 out of control Shelties, which are basically herding dogs that belong on a farm.

They barked at everything that moved. They barked in unison. The worst part was these morons kept their windows open all the time, so you had to be like a ninja on the way to your car, or you'd get caught in the middle of a bark explosion. If these dogs heard your hair growing they'd bark.

Of course, these assholes didn't react well to anyone telling them they need to keep their dogs quiet(impossible) or close the windows, which barely helped anyway.

When I saw a moving truck one morning, it made my whole day better.
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Speak to her, in the nicest of ways, let's not forget, she's probably at the end of her tether, the child has probably been taking the toll on the relationship & her life. Not your fault, although, you could be the help of life her family & the child needs.
I can tell you, hands down, this is the best approach.

Its obvious that you don't know anyone close or have family members with mentally disabled children, but the strain it puts on a family is horrendous--you have absolutely NO idea what these parents go through and I can tell you from watching both close friends and family have to deal.

So if you going to be tough Internet punk and show up demanding their child STFU during the day, they will most likely make your life hell. Believe it or not, everyone will be on their side if you take this to any authority.

Here is a solution, not guaranteed, but will help in the right step.

1) Go buy a toy you think the kid will like, obviously something that doesn't make sound. Make sure it's not expensive because a good chance it will end up in the trash.
2) Buy the parents a "welcome gift" something like cookies or some shit. Can be a picture of a stick on the back of a trashcan lid, but its the thought the counts.
3) Try to find a time when BOTH parents are home, don't corner one or the outcome will be worse than it is now... wife to husband "your not going to believe what that asshole that lives behind us did today..."
4) Most important - explain your circumstance in a way that you are not trying to make them fell sorry for you and ask them what they can do to help you

As long as you communicate in terms of POSITIVE - REQUEST- POSITIVE - FACT - POSITIVE - CLOSE THE DEAL you will most like get some help.

How? Like this...

Hi, not sure we met, I'm from over there... welcome to the neighborhood.
Congratulations on moving in, I'm sure you and your family will love it here! (positive)
I actually wanted to talk to you and your spouse, do you have a few moments? (request)
I love your house, I masturbate to the wall paper everyday! (positive)
I work from home and have been for the last 47 years. This is how I earn a living and unfortunately it's been a bit loud for the past few days and difficult for me to concentrate and get work done (fact)
I'm glad that you let your kids outside to play, I can't believe most parents these days that sit their kids in front of a TV or iPad for hours on end (positive)
However, I can't imagine how hard it can be sometimes, but I wanted to ask if you can help me a bit when it comes to him screaming in the back yard?
I know he likes to go outside and play, just like other kids and they tend to get loud, but I typically work from like 9 to 7pm, but maybe to help I can come out during the day for a little bit and play catch or something with him until his brother gets home from school? (close the deal)

Know the parents are not going to want to have you play with their kid, but will help them think you are actually trying to help.

Again, as long as you approach this with "what can I do to help..." instead of "you help me" you will most likely get some instant support
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I can tell you, hands down, this is the best approach.

Its obvious that you don't know anyone close or have family members with mentally disabled children, but the strain it puts on a family is horrendous--you have absolutely NO idea what these parents go through and I can tell you from watching both close friends and family have to deal.

So if you going to be tough Internet punk and show up demanding their child STFU during the day, they will most likely make your life hell. Believe it or not, everyone will be on their side if you take this to any authority.

Here is a solution, not guaranteed, but will help in the right step.

1) Go buy a toy you think the kid will like, obviously something that doesn't make sound. Make sure it's not expensive because a good chance it will end up in the trash.
2) Buy the parents a "welcome gift" something like cookies or some shit. Can be a picture of a stick on the back of a trashcan lid, but its the thought the counts.
3) Try to find a time when BOTH parents are home, don't corner one or the outcome will be worse than it is now... wife to husband "your not going to believe what that asshole that lives behind us did today..."
4) Most important - explain your circumstance in a way that you are not trying to make them fell sorry for you and ask them what they can do to help you

As long as you communicate in terms of POSITIVE - REQUEST- POSITIVE - FACT - POSITIVE - CLOSE THE DEAL you will most like get some help.

How? Like this...

Hi, not sure we met, I'm from over there... welcome to the neighborhood.
Congratulations on moving in, I'm sure you and your family will love it here! (positive)
I actually wanted to talk to you and your spouse, do you have a few moments? (request)
I love your house, I masturbate to the wall paper everyday! (positive)
I work from home and have been for the last 47 years. This is how I earn a living and unfortunately it's been a bit loud for the past few days and difficult for me to concentrate and get work done (fact)
I'm glad that you let your kids outside to play, I can't believe most parents these days that sit their kids in front of a TV or iPad for hours on end (positive)
However, I can't imagine how hard it can be sometimes, but I wanted to ask if you can help me a bit when it comes to him screaming in the back yard?
I know he likes to go outside and play, just like other kids and they tend to get loud, but I typically work from like 9 to 7pm, but maybe to help I can come out during the day for a little bit and play catch or something with him until his brother gets home from school? (close the deal)

Know the parents are not going to want to have you play with their kid, but will help them think you are actually trying to help.

Again, as long as you approach this with "what can I do to help..." instead of "you help me" you will most likely get some instant support
Bossku69 is absolutely correct. If you haven't already, then you must do this first, step by step, before getting on them.
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maybe they are renting and you can call the landlord 20x/day until he evicts them
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Haha... My brother in law once combated a neighbor with a barking dog by going out on his back balcony and barking back at the neighbors house when they got home from work. For two days they thought he was insane. Then they asked a neighbor on their street about the idiot barking on his balcony and the neighbor informed them it is, "probably because he is tired of your fucking dog barking all damn day while you are at work. We all are!"

After that the dog was kept inside...
Wouldn't it have been easier to just walk in there and talk to them in the first place ?
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I'm dealing with a very similar fucked up situation:

Take a listen: http://www.serialmedia.com/solomon.mp3

Up until a few weeks ago when the weather started getting colder, I was listening to this 8 hours a day. I can hear this clearly from my living room, my office, and the master bedroom.

This despicable piece of shit of a parent keeps their windows open all the time.
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True story, on December 1st of this year, the new neighbour that just moved in the apartment below us knocked on the door to introduce himself (At that point I am like WTF, never had a new neighbour introduce himself as far as I can remember) he tells me that he is a professional tuba player and that although he will insulate a bedroom, we may still hear him a little, I replied "Well, we have a 27 months toddler that loves to run and drop toys around."

Ever since, I don't feel guilty when my daughter makes too much noise

Nevertheless, we don't let our daughter run around and wreak havoc, it's all about educating your kids, and the problem is that a lot of parents lack education and manners so their kids are just as bad or worst than they are.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:56 AM   #31
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Nevertheless, we don't let our daughter run around and wreak havoc, it's all about educating your kids, and the problem is that a lot of parents lack education and manners so their kids are just as bad or worst than they are.
My sentiments exactly.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:06 AM   #32
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Give him some ice cream, special needs kids love ice cream!
They like cabbage and cookies.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:17 AM   #34
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This thread has potential.

I would suggest you buy some Headphones and start enjoying some music while you work.

I have a feeling you will lose if you try to elevate this to any authority.
I work at home during the day and a kid that is already screwed over in life is outside making too much noise, is i'm sure right on the top priority for any law officer.

Also i believe there are no noise by laws for during the day in a residential area.
Could you imagine the look on the cops face that got sent out there? When he looked over and saw that you put in a complaint about a kid who is fucked over for life already?

It sucks, as i have had kids screaming outside my window also in the summer months. So i understand, but this kid has you beat hands down.

Hell, i bet you wouldn't post this on your facebook...lol
Touchy subject.
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Hell, i bet you wouldn't post this on your facebook...lol
Touchy subject.
I agree with everything you mentioned... but I also posted my issue to Facebook, complete with my own commentary mixed into the audio recording of the noise.
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Maybe try with the loud music, hard to say when you are not in the middle of the problem.
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:52 PM   #37
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I could meet these people and be nice... but they are not going to be able to change that kid or how his mother deals with him.
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