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JFK · 06-13-2012, 12:30 AM

fitty coupe de grace, for Foie gras

Django · 06-13-2012, 12:49 AM

expensive shit.

ShoeBox · 06-13-2012, 01:11 AM

I have paid to much attention to this topic please close thread...

BlackCrayon · 06-13-2012, 04:47 AM

i've never eaten the stuff, don't know anyone who has. it seems like the kind of thing people with too much money to blow on some super small portion would eat just because they can.

12clicks · 06-13-2012, 07:47 AM

I love these little shit stains who get all riled up over foie gras.
I specifically search out restaurants that serve it and order it every time its on the menu.
Hi Monique, too bad I'm not coming to San Fran before the ban, we could have had a bloated goose liver party.

jimmy-3-way · 06-13-2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i've never eaten the stuff, don't know anyone who has. it seems like the kind of thing people with too much money to blow on some super small portion would eat just because they can.

Well there you go, you've spoken for the proletariat. Congrats.

NewNick · 06-13-2012, 09:53 AM

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Exactly.

I'd rather eat foie gras than a factory farmed hamburger.

Or a chicken nugget.

I dont get too worked up about this factory meat product over any other.

CaptainWolfy · 06-13-2012, 10:01 AM

that looks disgusting :/

BlackCrayon · 06-13-2012, 10:08 AM

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Well there you go, you've spoken for the proletariat. Congrats.

thanks. people eat that stuff and go to restaurants that sell it because its trendy and makes them look like bigshots. thats the only reasoning i can come up with anyways. they seems always server super smal portions at super high prices but its the name dropping thats draws the people. oh you ate at the fancy stick up your ass, oh my, you must be a someone.

Shotsie · 06-13-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

thanks. people eat that stuff and go to restaurants that sell it because its trendy and makes them look like bigshots. thats the only reasoning i can come up with anyways. they seems always server super smal portions at super high prices but its the name dropping thats draws the people. oh you at the fancy stick up your ass, oh my, you must be a someone.

I had some the other day at Chez Quis, which - I had trouble even getting in the restaurant. I had to tell them I was Abe Froman: the sausage king of Chicago, just to get a table.

12clicks · 06-13-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

thanks. people eat that stuff and go to restaurants that sell it because its trendy and makes them look like bigshots. thats the only reasoning i can come up with anyways. they seems always server super smal portions at super high prices but its the name dropping thats draws the people. oh you ate at the fancy stick up your ass, oh my, you must be a someone.

wow.

I do love your insight on how the other half imagines I live.

I eat it because its delicious. Same reason I eat steak.
You'd have a point if we were talking about eating Ortolan but in this case, you're just out of your depth.

sperbonzo · 06-13-2012, 10:28 AM

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I had some the other day at Chez Quis, which - I had trouble even getting in the restaurant. I had to tell them I was Abe Froman: the sausage king of Chicago, just to get a table.

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jimmy-3-way · 06-13-2012, 10:33 AM

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You'd have a point if we were talking about eating Ortolan but in this case, you're just out of your depth.

STFU, man. Tiny ANYTHING is delicious.

jimmy-3-way · 06-13-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

It seems like the kind of thing people with too much money to blow on some super small portion would eat just because they can.

You've just discovered the reason to have too much money, congrats.

12clicks · 06-13-2012, 10:42 AM

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STFU, man. Tiny ANYTHING is delicious.

I couldn't get past the feathers sticking to the roof of my mouth.

jimmy-3-way · 06-13-2012, 10:58 AM

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I couldn't get past the feathers sticking to the roof of my mouth.

I would think the beak would be the bitch of it...

Rebel D · 06-13-2012, 11:29 AM

I love fois gras and fois dois.

O MARINA · 06-13-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

I had some the other day at Chez Quis, which - I had trouble even getting in the restaurant. I had to tell them I was Abe Froman: the sausage king of Chicago, just to get a table.

Monique Niccole · 06-13-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I love these little shit stains who get all riled up over foie gras.
I specifically search out restaurants that serve it and order it every time its on the menu.
Hi Monique, too bad I'm not coming to San Fran before the ban, we could have had a bloated goose liver party.

Gah! I wish you were coming to town. I'd take you to Chez Papa for the foie gras tasting menu. Next time you're in town, I'll take you there anyway - it's one of my favorite French restaurants in the city.

BlackCrayon · 06-13-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

wow.

I do love your insight on how the other half imagines I live.

I eat it because its delicious. Same reason I eat steak.
You'd have a point if we were talking about eating Ortolan but in this case, you're just out of your depth.

who mentioned you? i doubt you leave the house much.

Monique Niccole · 06-13-2012, 11:46 AM

And for everyone who keeps harping on the price of foie gras...

Naked Lunch has a foie gras and duck prosciutto sandwich on the menu for $18. The Farewell to Foie Gras dinner at Starbelly is $60 for 4 courses. The foie gras plate at Keiko is $21.

Foie gras isn't something that you have to be Warren Buffett in order to eat. Unless you're currently occupying your mom's basement, you can afford it.

D Ghost · 06-13-2012, 03:08 PM

So... foie gras is bad because of the way the animal is treated... but slaughtering cows, and making chickens live in cages is ok?

Flawless logic from these anti-foie gras people, lol.

If you don't like it, don't buy or eat it, it's your choice. But just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean "it should be illegal and no one should do it."

DamianJ · 06-13-2012, 03:12 PM

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So... foie gras is bad because of the way the animal is treated... but slaughtering cows, and making chickens live in cages is ok?

Flawless logic from these anti-foie gras people, lol.

If you don't like it, don't buy or eat it, it's your choice. But just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean "it should be illegal and no one should do it."

Who said battery chickens was ok?

Killing any animal to eat it is fine. As long as it is free range and happy before it dies. Force feeding a goose is bad

Hope that cleared up your confusion

D Ghost · 06-13-2012, 03:16 PM

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Who said battery chickens was ok?

Killing any animal to eat it is fine. As long as it is free range and happy before it dies. Force feeding a goose is bad

Hope that cleared up your confusion

So why aren't we banning chickens caged and cow slaughtering?

Same thing with smoking weed, some people think it's "bad" - but that doesn't mean everyone else does. And you again, have a choice to not partake. No one is force feeding anyone foie gras or pot.

I'm not fond of the foie gras either, but if someone else is, let them have at it, it's their decision, not mine to nanny them.

This legislation (like most other ridiculous, absurd and tax dollar wasting legislation) is for some politician scumbag to say they put it through and win an election (and money).

How about the legislation here in San Francisco where you cannot purchase cigarettes in a pharmacy? Oh because that really helps prevent someone from walking across the street or buying them at the non-pharmacy store right next to it.

Total bullshit, useless legislation from some chode politician trying to win votes. "I'm here to protect your health!" I call bullshit. You are here to win votes (and money). Let me protect my own health asshole.

jimmy-3-way · 06-13-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Who said battery chickens was ok?

Killing any animal to eat it is fine. As long as it is free range and happy before it dies.

You think that animals can be "happy", huh?

OKay, mate, whatever you say. Good luck sourcing your organic free range meat from Amusement Park Farms.

DamianJ · 06-13-2012, 04:13 PM

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You think that animals can be "happy", huh?

OKay, mate, whatever you say. Good luck sourcing your organic free range meat from Amusement Park Farms.

Er...yes. Chicken in a cage vs free range chicken. Why shouldn't the free range be happy?

Killing animals to eat them is totally cool with me. Force feeding them, not so much.

jimmy-3-way · 06-13-2012, 04:17 PM

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Er...yes. Chicken in a cage vs free range chicken. Why shouldn't the free range be happy?

Killing animals to eat them is totally cool with me. Force feeding them, not so much.

Are you a chicken psychologist? You are just making a random assumption that what YOU think will make a chicken "happy" actually will and that chickens actually possess the ability to be "happy".

That's patently absurd.

DamianJ · 06-13-2012, 04:17 PM

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So why aren't we banning chickens caged

We have

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and cow slaughtering?

Nothing wrong with slaughtering cows. I fucking love steak.

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Same thing with smoking weed, some people think it's "bad" - but that doesn't mean everyone else does.

Are you high? You're trying to compare force feeding battery geese with smoking weed?

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No one is force feeding anyone foie gras

No, the geese are the ones being force fed

DamianJ · 06-13-2012, 04:20 PM

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Are you a chicken psychologist? You are just making a random assumption that what YOU think will make a chicken "happy" actually will and that chickens actually possess the ability to be "happy".

That's patently absurd.

So you really think a chicken allowed to live in thenopenair, running about, with fun chickeny things to do all day is pissed off and the ones in the battery farms are happy?

That's patently absurd.

jimmy-3-way · 06-13-2012, 04:29 PM

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So you really think a chicken allowed to live in thenopenair, running about, with fun chickeny things to do all day is pissed off and the ones in the battery farms are happy?

That's patently absurd.

You are ascribing human emotions to an animal with a brain the size of a thumbnail. Your criteria for animal husbandry is that animals should be happy and have fun?

If you don't see the utter childishness of that argument, I'm certainly not going to convince you of anything.

jimmy-3-way · 06-13-2012, 04:33 PM

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...the ones in the battery farms are happy?

That's patently absurd.

What if chickens love nothing more than being in big, fun mosh pits with all their mates rubbing against the lady chickens and chattering all day about the lastest barnyard fad?

Gee that is silly, I completely see your very logical point.

Monique Niccole · 06-13-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

So you really think a chicken allowed to live in thenopenair, running about, with fun chickeny things to do all day is pissed off and the ones in the battery farms are happy?

That's patently absurd.

So it's okay for them to be killed for food as long as they're having fun before we do it?

Sly · 06-13-2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

So you really think a chicken allowed to live in thenopenair, running about, with fun chickeny things to do all day is pissed off and the ones in the battery farms are happy?

That's patently absurd.

What frame of reference do the caged chickens have that makes them so unhappy?

You could be right, I haven't the slightest clue, just curious what they are basing their unhappiness on.

L-Pink · 06-13-2012, 04:46 PM

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So it's okay for them to be killed for food as long as they're having fun before we do it?

Just because you like having things rammed down your throat doesn't mean the ducks do.

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Brujah · 06-13-2012, 04:53 PM

I loved foie gras before I knew more about it. Haven't touched it since. I make do with liverwurst when I crave it. As a result, I try to avoid learning too much about food or how it is made before it gets to me so that it doesn't fuck with my head.

Monique Niccole · 06-13-2012, 04:53 PM

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Just because you like having things rammed down your throat doesn't mean the ducks do.

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You're absolutely right. You cannot ascribe human emotions and feelings onto non-human animals. I'm glad we agree now.

chaze · 06-13-2012, 04:57 PM

"I'm no vegetarian, but foie gras really is for cunts."

Yeah and for people with serious issues. Sad day when someone though this was o.k. to do in the first place.

jimmy-3-way · 06-13-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

I loved foie gras before I knew more about it. Haven't touched it since. I make do with liverwurst when I crave it. As a result, I try to avoid learning too much about food or how it is made before it gets to me so that it doesn't fuck with my head.

Factory farmed beef is often fed grain that is bulked up with chicken shit.

Enjoy!

bhutocracy · 06-13-2012, 06:31 PM

Look, unless you're a vegetarian you really have to STFU. Most things you eat on a day to day basis suffers EXACTLY as much. Yeah I know, you do buy that one organic happy farm chicken breast each week from the supermarket as though that changes the burger you had today, the sandwich from the deli you'll have tomorrow etc and the vast majority of what you eat that has been factory farmed.
Geese don't have a gag reflex, stop anthropomorphising, no one eats meat soley from free range animals from grassy farms that get back rubs and cable tv, most free range meat is just slightly less intensely farmed factory meat. Basically you're all as bad as foie gras eaters unless you don't eat meat at all. And you eat poorly farmed meat far more than foie gras eaters eat foie gras so settle down.

Sly · 06-13-2012, 06:36 PM

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Look, unless you're a vegetarian you really have to STFU. Most things you eat on a day to day basis suffers EXACTLY as much. Yeah I know, you do buy that one organic happy farm chicken breast each week from the supermarket as though that changes the burger you had today, the sandwich from the deli you'll have tomorrow etc and the vast majority of what you eat that has been factory farmed.
Geese don't have a gag reflex, stop anthropomorphising, no one eats meat soley from free range animals from grassy farms that get back rubs and cable tv, most free range meat is just slightly less intensely farmed factory meat. Basically you're all as bad as foie gras eaters unless you don't eat meat at all. And you eat poorly farmed meat far more than foie gras eaters eat foie gras so settle down.

Organic and free range are marketing terms. Sure, they might be different depending on the producer or market, but for the most part there is no regulation over those terms. Words on a package that make consumers feel fuzzy inside.

Of course, this could be different outside of the United States.

Voodoo · 06-13-2012, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Monique Niccole

We have a difference of opinion. I eat foie gras and don't see it as inhumane. Neither do many chefs.

Don't like it, don't eat it.

http://www.earthlings.com

Watch this.

bhutocracy · 06-13-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Organic and free range are marketing terms. Sure, they might be different depending on the producer or market, but for the most part there is no regulation over those terms. Words on a package that make consumers feel fuzzy inside.

Of course, this could be different outside of the United States.

It's not too much different outside the US. The geese farm in the Bourdain video on the first page of this thread is about as free range as they get, eating foie gras from there would be less cruel than most things any of the complainers eat each week - FACT.

Brujah · 06-13-2012, 06:59 PM

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So it's okay for them to be killed for food as long as they're having fun before we do it?

I think it's great that you justify it this way to yourself, in order to let your conscience allow you to eat it. Otherwise you'd just say you don't really care, but it's obvious that you do care, and need to justify it differently in order to continue.

Voodoo · 06-13-2012, 07:02 PM

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You're absolutely right. You cannot ascribe human emotions and feelings onto non-human animals. I'm glad we agree now.

That's how the Nazis felt about the Jews and how the whites used to treat the blacks.

Nice to see things have changed.

bhutocracy · 06-13-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

I loved foie gras before I knew more about it. Haven't touched it since. I make do with liverwurst when I crave it. As a result, I try to avoid learning too much about food or how it is made before it gets to me so that it doesn't fuck with my head.

I don't see how foie gras is produced any differently to the liverwurst you eat. If you've ever heard a pig scream as it gets slaughtered (it sounds like a child being killed) you'd eat nothing but foie gras ever again.

Brujah · 06-13-2012, 07:32 PM

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I don't see how foie gras is produced any differently to the liverwurst you eat. If you've ever heard a pig scream as it gets slaughtered (it sounds like a child being killed) you'd eat nothing but foie gras ever again.

I don't know either, so shutup vegan.

RyuLion · 06-13-2012, 07:40 PM

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EukerVoorn · 06-13-2012, 07:40 PM

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You're absolutely right. You cannot ascribe human emotions and feelings onto non-human animals. I'm glad we agree now.

A few hundred years ago people could do anything with blacks because blacks were considered animals, without "emotions and feelings". But these blacks were able to stand up for themselves and there were also white people who felt sorry for these blacks and stood up for them as well. Now you're arguing with people who are in favor of animal rights and it seems to be impossible to convince you that by eating foie gras you're contributing to animal suffering. You haven't learned a fucking thing from your own people's history and I see more intelligence and empathie in my cats than in you. Of course animals feel pain and fear just like you do.

Animals are the black Jews of today. Nature got totally out of balance and humans don't have natural enemies anymore, so we're overpopulating the planet and destroying it and we think we're superieur to everything else.

As for the arguments brought up in here:

1) It tastes great so it's ok - so if your ass tastes great it's ok for other people to eat it?

2) There is so much more suffering in the meat industry - yes but you have to start somewhere. When there's crap all over your garden do you not start cleaning it up because there's crap everywhere? I would just start somewhere and clean it up bit by bit.

Eating an animal is natural. Torturing it isn't. Give it a cruelty free live with a bit of comfort and kill it quickly. Please watch the movie at www.earthlings.com - it's not an anti-meat-eating movie but it will open your eyes.

bhutocracy · 06-13-2012, 07:42 PM

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I don't know either, so shutup vegan.

hah, I ate the thickest piece of bacon I've ever had on the weekend, I'm just sayin' foie gras is no worse, and probably BETTER than what 95% of the people here eat (assuming 5% vegetarians). It's just a little less familiar to most people and therefore easier to demonise even though the eggs and bacon they had for breakfast was most likely more cruel to produce.

Shotsie · 06-13-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

I loved foie gras before I knew more about it. Haven't touched it since. I make do with liverwurst when I crave it. As a result, I try to avoid learning too much about food or how it is made before it gets to me so that it doesn't fuck with my head.

Funny thing is, the chefs at these restaurants that serve it - they could probably pan-fry some pet food grade liverwurst, dress it up, pass it off as foie gras and most of the customers wouldn't even know the difference.

It ain't that great, anyway. I'll take a slice of scrapple over some foie gras pâté any day.

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That's how the Nazis felt about the Jews and how the whites used to treat the blacks.

Nice to see things have changed.

Oh, Jesus Christ... Okay, now this thread is starting to reach insanity levels of irrationality.

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BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	i've never eaten the stuff, don't know anyone who has. it seems like the kind of thing people with too much money to blow on some super small portion would eat just because they can. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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D Ghost null Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,820	So... foie gras is bad because of the way the animal is treated... but slaughtering cows, and making chickens live in cages is ok? Flawless logic from these anti-foie gras people, lol. If you don't like it, don't buy or eat it, it's your choice. But just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean "it should be illegal and no one should do it." Last edited by D Ghost; 06-13-2012 at 03:11 PM..

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Django So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,578	expensive shit.

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ShoeBox So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Location: Brazil Posts: 2,056	I have paid to much attention to this topic please close thread...

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12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,791	I love these little shit stains who get all riled up over foie gras. I specifically search out restaurants that serve it and order it every time its on the menu. Hi Monique, too bad I'm not coming to San Fran before the ban, we could have had a bloated goose liver party.

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CaptainWolfy Playa Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Somewhere on the Earth Posts: 8,439	that looks disgusting :/

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Rebel D Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,916	I love fois gras and fois dois.

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Monique Niccole Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,653	And for everyone who keeps harping on the price of foie gras... Naked Lunch has a foie gras and duck prosciutto sandwich on the menu for $18. The Farewell to Foie Gras dinner at Starbelly is $60 for 4 courses. The foie gras plate at Keiko is $21. Foie gras isn't something that you have to be Warren Buffett in order to eat. Unless you're currently occupying your mom's basement, you can afford it.

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chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	"I'm no vegetarian, but foie gras really is for cunts." Yeah and for people with serious issues. Sad day when someone though this was o.k. to do in the first place.

06-13-2012, 06:31 PM	#89
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	Look, unless you're a vegetarian you really have to STFU. Most things you eat on a day to day basis suffers EXACTLY as much. Yeah I know, you do buy that one organic happy farm chicken breast each week from the supermarket as though that changes the burger you had today, the sandwich from the deli you'll have tomorrow etc and the vast majority of what you eat that has been factory farmed. Geese don't have a gag reflex, stop anthropomorphising, no one eats meat soley from free range animals from grassy farms that get back rubs and cable tv, most free range meat is just slightly less intensely farmed factory meat. Basically you're all as bad as foie gras eaters unless you don't eat meat at all. And you eat poorly farmed meat far more than foie gras eaters eat foie gras so settle down.