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EukerVoorn · 06-13-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

Oh, Jesus Christ... Okay, now this thread is starting to reach insanity levels of irrationality.

White people fighting black slavery back then were considered irrational as well.

Monique Niccole · 06-13-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

I think it's great that you justify it this way to yourself, in order to let your conscience allow you to eat it. Otherwise you'd just say you don't really care, but it's obvious that you do care, and need to justify it differently in order to continue.

I don't need to justify anything in order to continue eating it. My conscience is perfectly good with eating foie gras -- was before this post and will be after.

Now we've got people comparing ducks to blacks and Jews. This thread has truly jumped the shark.

Far-L · 06-14-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Monique Niccole

I don't need to justify anything in order to continue eating it. My conscience is perfectly good with eating foie gras -- was before this post and will be after.

Now we've got people comparing ducks to blacks and Jews. This thread has truly jumped the shark.

Promethean, to say the least.

* Witticism Cliff Notes for those that want to understand the humor more quickly: Prometheus gave fire to Mankind and for his Transgression Zeus chained him to a rock to spend his immortality having his liver eaten every day by an eagle, only to have the liver regenerate for the next day's feasting. Hence, geese, for the benefit they give to Mankind of tasting good, and inspiring their cultivation for consumption, must have their livers eaten every day, chained to an existence of stuffing, roasting and devouring into infinity.

HomeFry · 06-14-2012, 12:25 AM

Lololollolo

baddog · 06-14-2012, 12:28 AM

This could take a while, so half way through . . . .

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

In China you'll find chefs who live skin a cat or dog and then boil it when it's still alive and tell you that there's nothing inhuman about it and that it tastes great.

What are your thoughts on lobster? And I am pretty sure you will find plenty of Hindu that don't appreciate the way people treat cows.

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Now go put up some links to a gagging video and think about it.

Except, as pointed out above, they don't gag.

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

I had some the other day at Chez Quis, which - I had trouble even getting in the restaurant. I had to tell them I was Abe Froman: the sausage king of Chicago, just to get a table.

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Who said battery chickens was ok?

Killing any animal to eat it is fine. As long as it is free range and happy before it dies. Force feeding a goose is bad

Hope that cleared up your confusion

I was wondering what a battery chicken was, I guess it is caged. Have you been to Kauai by chance? They have a lot of free range chicken there. I can not imagine the mess it would be in London if you had chickens for everyone wandering the streets.

As far as force feeding the goose, why is it bad? It was born for one reason, to be slaughtered. You presume that being force fed must be terrible because as a human it would be. Thing is, it is a goose. Different animal.

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Er...yes. Chicken in a cage vs free range chicken. Why shouldn't the free range be happy?

Where do you propose these chickens roam?

DamianJ · 06-14-2012, 12:29 AM

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What frame of reference do the caged chickens have that makes them so unhappy?

Because they are standing in their own shit that literally burns their feet off, because they see no daylight, because they are fed in a way to make them fat, because their beaks are cut off to stop them fighting, etc etc

There have been huge campaigns, week long TV shows etc to stop battery chickens here. I guess you lot just have no idea what it is like and why it is so disgusting.

You should really go and educate yourself about it:

http://www.broodyhen.co.uk/ket/fowln...M/battery.html

DamianJ · 06-14-2012, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

What are your thoughts on lobster?

It's as free range as you can get, so lobster is cool.

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And I am pretty sure you will find plenty of Hindu that don't appreciate the way people treat cows.

No, the cow is a religious symbol, and is sacred to Hindu. Nothing to do with disgusting farming techniques.

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I was wondering what a battery chicken was, I guess it is caged.

Are you joking? Do you really not know what battery chickens are?

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As far as force feeding the goose, why is it bad?

Because force feeding is bad. In my book. Maybe you think it's OK, I don't.

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It was born for one reason, to be slaughtered.

I have, as I keep saying, no problem with it being slaughtered. I have an issue with it being treated like a piece of shit while it is alive

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You presume that being force fed must be terrible because as a human it would be.

Yes I do. Why do you think they like living in cages and being force fed?

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Where do you propose these chickens roam?

Do you honestly not know what free range means?

I think you're just trolling me...in case not, a free range chicken lives on a fucking farm. With trees and woodland, dust for it to scratch at and roll in, a natural life. It is then killed and I eat it.

baddog · 06-14-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

It's as free range as you can get, so lobster is cool.

Was not talking to you, or about it being free range. I brought it up because it is boiled alive, like the dogs and cats in China.

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Are you joking? Do you really not know what battery chickens are?

I have never heard them called battery chickens, never.

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Because force feeding is bad. In my book. Maybe you think it's OK, I don't.

Unless it is a steak.

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Yes I do. Why do you think they like living in cages and being force fed?

Why do you think a bird that has lived only in a cage knows any better; or would even survive on the outside.

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Do you honestly not know what free range means?

I think you're just trolling me...in case not, a free range chicken lives on a fucking farm. With trees and woodland, dust for it to scratch at and roll in, a natural life. It is then killed and I eat it.

You know, that is how they used to do it. Then people wanted chicken nuggets, and chicken sandwiches, and wings, tons of fucking wings. There were not enough little farms to keep up with the demand. And there never will be again . . . unless of course you don't mind paying 17.50 a pound for a whole chicken. Those packages of just breasts will be a lot more.

chaze · 06-14-2012, 01:03 AM

If your going to be a selfish un-empathetic animal abuser, at least own it. It's ridiculous to act like it's o.k. to abuse animals because it's gourmet. People wonder why there is slaves and mass man slaughter, serial killers, it's the same mind set you have on animals.

We where trained to think it's o.k. to abuse animals by corporations so they can save money by raising and treating animals like crap.

Week people like to hurt weaker things to make them feel like they are strong.

Disregard for animal cruelty is usually the first signs for psycho-paths and serial killers.

Do what you want, I just don't like the ignorance that somehow it's futile to have respect for animals.

AngelAfterlife · 06-14-2012, 02:54 AM

I'll have the foie gras along side a veal steak, shark fin soup, and baby seal stuffed dumplings

DamianJ · 06-14-2012, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I brought it up because it is boiled alive,

So? Why are you anthropomorphising a lobster?

http://straightdope.com/columns/read...n-boiled-alive

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like the dogs and cats in China.

I have no issue with eating a cat or a dog.

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I have never heard them called battery chickens, never.

That's what they are called in Europe. Still, now you've seen the video and read about their feet rotting off because they stand in their own shit etc I am sure you will agree it's a pretty horrible life. Yes, free range is about twice as much money, but I cannot ever eat a non-free range animal or bird now.

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Why do you think a bird that has lived only in a cage knows any better; or would even survive on the outside.

Battery hens are constantly being released since the ban. My friend bought 6 only two weeks ago. They are happy as larry and behaving as a normal bird would.

It is nature. Reflex actions. What is hard wired into their heads. It's like saying a cat that is kept inside is OK because it has never been outside. Utter nonsense.

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Originally Posted by baddog

You know, that is how they used to do it. Then people wanted chicken nuggets, and chicken sandwiches, and wings, tons of fucking wings. There were not enough little farms to keep up with the demand. And there never will be again . . . unless of course you don't mind paying 17.50 a pound for a whole chicken. Those packages of just breasts will be a lot more.

There were more than enough farms, just they realised they could make much more profit by battery farming.

There is a massive revolution over here about the industry, and it was made illegal, thankfully. I'm sure you guys will catch up when you learn about how disgusting it all is.

Yes, a free range organic bird will cost a lot more. It will also taste a whole lot nicer and you can be happy you are not supporting battery farming.

Have you seen Food, Inc?

12clicks · 06-14-2012, 04:46 AM

the most satisfying part of this thread is that those who are against foie gras are the same subset of losers who'll go on to have miserable lives.

btw, I have veal last night. delicious!

12clicks · 06-14-2012, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Monique Niccole

Gah! I wish you were coming to town. I'd take you to Chez Papa for the foie gras tasting menu. Next time you're in town, I'll take you there anyway - it's one of my favorite French restaurants in the city.

a foie gras tasting menu????? how in the world did I miss that until now????
I'm all in!

12clicks · 06-14-2012, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

I think it's great that you justify it this way to yourself, in order to let your conscience allow you to eat it. Otherwise you'd just say you don't really care, but it's obvious that you do care, and need to justify it differently in order to continue.

the next time the neighbor's goose runs under your trailer, catch it and let me know. I'll have it shipped up to me and I'll show you how much I care.

HomeFry · 06-14-2012, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

the most satisfying part of this thread is that those who are against foie gras are the same subset of losers who'll go on to have miserable lives.

btw, I have veal last night. delicious!

And yet you're still a moron. Good one.

uno · 06-14-2012, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

wow.

I do love your insight on how the other half imagines I live.

I eat it because its delicious. Same reason I eat steak.
You'd have a point if we were talking about eating Ortolan but in this case, you're just out of your depth.

I don't think I could eat it whole.

uno · 06-14-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Monique Niccole

And for everyone who keeps harping on the price of foie gras...

Naked Lunch has a foie gras and duck prosciutto sandwich on the menu for $18. The Farewell to Foie Gras dinner at Starbelly is $60 for 4 courses. The foie gras plate at Keiko is $21.

Foie gras isn't something that you have to be Warren Buffett in order to eat. Unless you're currently occupying your mom's basement, you can afford it.

I only like it when its seared and has a slightly firmer texture.

Vendzilla · 06-14-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

You have longer than 20 days. From the comments:

"Foie gras is not going to disappear! California is not outlawing it. The issue is about force feeding animals. A restaurant, chef, or whoever is still allowed to use and sell foie gras as long as they purchase it from a place that does not force feed the birds.

You can read the chaptered bill at: http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/03-04/bill/sen/sb_1501-1550/sb_1520_bill_20040929_chaptered.pdf"

I have a friend that hunts anything that he can get a license for, love duck sausage

uno · 06-16-2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AngelAfterlife

I'll have the foie gras along side a veal steak, shark fin soup, and baby seal stuffed dumplings

I would definitely try baby seal. I have a suspicion that full grown seal is too fishy.

CaptainHowdy · 06-16-2012, 07:58 AM

And all the evil men and women do ...

The Ghost · 06-16-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Monique Niccole

Where are you going to get your foie gras on before the ban takes effect on July 1?

Here's a good list for San Francisco peeps.

http://www.pinchit.com/articles/346/...efore-its-gone

People are so detached from how our food is obtained from animals that everything is disgusting and shocking. There's realities to feeding billions of people.

eroticsexxx · 06-16-2012, 07:28 PM

Nevermind...

baddog · 06-16-2012, 07:40 PM

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There's realities to feeding billions of people.

Bingo.

Tijuana_Tom · 06-16-2012, 10:47 PM

I effing love duck. The way a "Fat liver" is produced is animal abuse tho.

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