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Old 02-03-2003, 07:59 PM   #51
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All of the above listed are already in place. The person who is sending the e-mail is using my childs first name in the subject i.e. "Hi Sally" and each e-mail comes from a different e-mail address.
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That helps some.

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My only guess is that 2 months ago The Gap [clothing store] requested photos from children who would like to model their clothing sold her e-mail address when she submitted her photos. What porn site would buy e-mail address from a e-mail seller that gets their e-mail from model entries? It doesnt make sense.

A concerned and involved parent.
The Gap uses

http://www.digitalimpact.com/php/home.php

Which appears to be permission marketing. Selling email addresses to porn spammers would put them out of business very quickly.

Then there's stuff like this:

http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HBGiveAways.shtml

And sites with "tell-a-friend" traps.

There are also klez-type e-mail worms that harvest e-mail address lists from each Windows user automatically.

Tracking down the exact source of a spam letter may not be the best use of a concerned parent's time. I am glad to see you being proactive about the situation.
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Old 02-03-2003, 08:07 PM   #52
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Where is the usual welcome to a new female member of the board?






Damn you, you took the name I wanted you bastard (Richard).
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Old 02-03-2003, 08:08 PM   #53
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haha

I believe there are many ways her address could have leaked. Lists get sold and traded, a non-adult spammer that might have been spamming your addy might have sold his list to a porn spammer etc...

How it could get there, there are many many ways.

- Email diggers, harvesters
- employees selling lists
- opt-in lists that get sold to other people etc...

Get her a new address and try to keep it secret. Also hotmail works wonders for me for filtering out spam.
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If real the solutions have been given and a truly resposible parent would have taken the advice by now and this would not be an issue any more. But then a truly resposible parent would also have had enough guards in place to start with. There's plenty of software to filter e-mails against adult content as well as general browser content.

If you are truly as intelligent and logical as you think you would have realised that coming to this board is in all likelyhood not coming to the 'soruce' at all. To taint all people running adult sites with the same brush as that of a spammer shows you are far less than intelligent and logical. To expect a spammer to automatically hang-out here is totally daft. There's unfortunately loads of the nasty little turds out there and only a percentage read this board.

Re-read the 1st posts, take the advice given and stop complaining because you have not until now taken your daughters protection seriously enough no matter how you try to deny it. You have been given advice on how to so do it this time.

If not real (which still seems more likely) the thread's achieved little other than to show you that if you aren't an adult WM yoruself the vast majority truly dislike unsolicited spam as much as yourself.
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Old 02-03-2003, 08:13 PM   #55
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Ive twice reported spammers to the us justice department. They got an online facility for it. The two campanies stop sending shit for this or other reason.
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Old 02-03-2003, 08:19 PM   #56
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All I have to say is... Are you sure that it was the *GAP* that requested photos?

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Old 02-03-2003, 08:24 PM   #57
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Do you really think that everyone is involved in your trade? pretty sad.

I am not involved with pornography and think myself a level headed person. What best way to resolve a problem than to go to the source? I am smart enough to know how to use the search engines and take it serious enough to follow through. The fact is that supplying ponographic material to my under aged child and attempting to supply my child with porn is a felony.

You can take this information and correct your problem or you can fuck your own self with your ignorance. I chose the responsible and logical route and you should as well.
get lost idiot.
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Old 02-03-2003, 08:26 PM   #58
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My girlfriend gets spam for penis enlargment pills and "click here for youngest teens on the net" shit in her hotmail account all the time she gets well pissed off about it..........I meen theres nothing wrong with the size of her penis anyways
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Old 02-03-2003, 08:33 PM   #59
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My girlfriend gets spam for penis enlargment pills and "click here for youngest teens on the net" shit in her hotmail account all the time she gets well pissed off about it..........I meen theres nothing wrong with the size of her penis anyways
She needs the diet pills though.
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Old 02-03-2003, 08:45 PM   #60
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If real the solutions have been given and a truly resposible parent would have taken the advice by now and this would not be an issue any more. But then a truly resposible parent would also have had enough guards in place to start with. There's plenty of software to filter e-mails against adult content as well as general browser content.

If you are truly as intelligent and logical as you think you would have realised that coming to this board is in all likelyhood not coming to the 'soruce' at all. To taint all people running adult sites with the same brush as that of a spammer shows you are far less than intelligent and logical. To expect a spammer to automatically hang-out here is totally daft. There's unfortunately loads of the nasty little turds out there and only a percentage read this board.

Re-read the 1st posts, take the advice given and stop complaining because you have not until now taken your daughters protection seriously enough no matter how you try to deny it. You have been given advice on how to so do it this time.

If not real (which still seems more likely) the thread's achieved little other than to show you that if you aren't an adult WM yoruself the vast majority truly dislike unsolicited spam as much as yourself.

Oh please...

This is every smut pedelers excuse.
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Old 02-03-2003, 09:06 PM   #62
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Oh please...

This is every smut pedelers excuse.
It is? There's silly me thinking it was just a reality. But then of course far better to ignore it as then all the spammers go away and the kids wont get porn shoved down their throats.

I suppose it depends whether you have kids and whether you take protecting them seriously. Either you have none and/or you don't give a toss about them *shrug*

Good grief - get real.
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Old 02-03-2003, 09:07 PM   #63
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I am the single mother of an 8 year old child. My home computer requires a log in before it can complete booting up. The reason I chose to put a password on my computer is because I want to monitor my 8 year old childs internet use. When she is on the computer I am right by her, usually helping her with homework assignments. Her e-mail address is not published anywhere to my knowledge, we have never entered any sweeps and to my knowledge the only people who have her e-mail adress are her father and her friends.

With this information, why is she getting pornographic material in her e-mail box from http://www.legalnudeteens.com ?

I have requested removal well over 2 dozen times. I have called paycom to complain. I have called Visa, Mastercard and Discover to file a formal complaint. I have notified earthlink abuse and aol abuse... what more needs to be done? Why does this loser persue my child and what part of REMOVE do you not understand?

Signed a very involved and concerned parent.
you make it sound like we're spamming your kid...
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Old 02-03-2003, 09:13 PM   #64
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I was thinking the same thing.

How in the hell did you end up at Go Fuck Yourself? You're obviously not new to porn...
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This smells like BS from far away.
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Old 02-03-2003, 10:19 PM   #66
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What a waste of time this bullshit is.

The posters behind this shit are either:

1. Nihilistic assholes with seriously overrated egos who think that this little microcosm GFY revolves around them.

2. Idiots with such low self esteem that they need constant attention.

I spend my time busting my ass all damn day trying to make a buck not just for me, but for people who join our program.

I have trouble kicking off a few posts before I head off to bed, or doing a drive by posting through out the day.

I did learn though that as my post ratio dropped, my income rose and I like that formula.

So it is with that I can add:

#3 Sad pathetic losers who lie about their income and status in this industry.

No matter how you cut it you don't win.

There are always tell tale signs that it's a "character," from one of these idiots.

The poster's first post is always something controversial.

This is what makes the person behind the post so fucking stupid.

It never starts off as "Hi I'm a wm from Oklahoma City thought I'd read the board for some tips on making money."

But more like, "Hi, I just made a new site with nothing but stolen images from the usenet and you motherfuckers can't bring me down!."

Anyway, I gotta go back to work...you guys just keep playing.
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Old 02-03-2003, 10:38 PM   #67
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As a mom of a 6 year old and a 13 year old, the question I must ask is why the heck does an 8 year old have an email address anyways?

You said she doesn't sign up for anything online so why does she need one?

People might disagree with me, but the internet is NOT for children period. I don't care why kid's sites there are online, the internet is NOT kid friendly!

If you must allow her one for some IMPORTANT reason, ditch the one she has now, get her a new one and YOU read her mail BEFORE she gets to see it!
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Old 02-03-2003, 10:44 PM   #68
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does her school teacher or ANY OTHER ADULT have her emial address?

Only way she can be getting this stuff is if someone used it for something, or if got picked up by a spider scaning through peoples email lists.

Someone who shouldnt have her email probably does.
That someone is probably someone you know, and that someone probably surfs buys porn and somehow the email leaked out.
That is extremely untrue. Spammers send blanket e-mails to AOL and several other ISPs, based on random word generations, so it is possible to get spam to an address that no one knows exists.

Also, if you use a small local ISP with bad security (I used to work for one), they might be subjected to blanket spams of every dial-up customer at the ISP. This is easily stopped if an ISP actually knows what they are doing and isn't operated out of some one's basement. It's pretty rare these days though.
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Do you really think that everyone is involved in your trade? pretty sad.

I am not involved with pornography and think myself a level headed person. What best way to resolve a problem than to go to the source? I am smart enough to know how to use the search engines and take it serious enough to follow through. The fact is that supplying ponographic material to my under aged child and attempting to supply my child with porn is a felony.

You can take this information and correct your problem or you can fuck your own self with your ignorance. I chose the responsible and logical route and you should as well.
Here is the info on the guy, gal or company that owns the site!
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Old 02-03-2003, 10:59 PM   #70
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Just get a new email address.
I can't believe an 8 year old has there own email addy.

Do you let her surf the net unsupervised?
you should probably keep a close Eye on him/her just like you would'nt let them flip to show time channel late at night.

Kids will do things you probably think they wouldn't very curious.

I'm in the industry and I can't get off lists best thing to do is monitor your childs email and while they surf online
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I know for aol you can go under the master account of aol you can block all emails except for people you list. It was a really handy feature for getting rid of all that crap in my email box. Also I think there is additional email controls in aol that might beable to help. It is sad your email was not removed and none of the people you listed cared to do anything about it.

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Old 02-04-2003, 01:03 AM   #73
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Bull shit.

There's no way some spammer can get your daughters name unless YOU or someone YOU know gave it out.
Assuming her name isn't in the email address....if she's

[email protected]

Why couldn't the spam start off with her supposed name? Plus if she uses any form of IM emails can be harvested off the online profiles as well (as well as the person's name if it's listed).

But you're right, that's still technically revealling the child's identity onto the net
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You can take this information and correct your problem or you can fuck your own self with your ignorance. I chose the responsible and logical route and you should as well.
Out of curiosity...what exactly are you expecting us to do? It's not like we know who is spamming you. You've received several great suggestions on how to prevent this from happening in the future (and also to avoid virtually all incoming spam, pornographic or not)...
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I am the single mother of an 8 year old child. My home computer requires a log in before it can complete booting up. The reason I chose to put a password on my computer is because I want to monitor my 8 year old childs internet use. When she is on the computer I am right by her, usually helping her with homework assignments. Her e-mail address is not published anywhere to my knowledge, we have never entered any sweeps and to my knowledge the only people who have her e-mail adress are her father and her friends.

With this information, why is she getting pornographic material in her e-mail box from http://www.legalnudeteens.com ?

I have requested removal well over 2 dozen times. I have called paycom to complain. I have called Visa, Mastercard and Discover to file a formal complaint. I have notified earthlink abuse and aol abuse... what more needs to be done? Why does this loser persue my child and what part of REMOVE do you not understand?

Signed a very involved and concerned parent.

DONT ALLOW YOUR CHILD TO USE AOL , THEY ARE VERY EVIL , STEVE CASE LOVES SENDING PORN E-MAILS OUT TO ALL THE K-O ACCOUNTS
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Oh please...

This is every smut pedelers excuse.
Not quite...it's every parent's responsibility to protect their kids...if the child is too young to understand the concept of something or to protect themselves it is the parent's duty to help shelter the kid from potential dangers.

Would you let your eight year old kid walk home at night from a friend's house three or four blocks away? No...you'd be too afraid of the child getting hit by a car, kidnapped or injured in any sense....hell you probably wouldn't let the kid walk that during the day. And why not? Because the kidnappers should know better than to try and steal a child so that automatically will make it safe?

Protecting your child from harmful elements is a responsibility for parents in all aspects of the child's life. Expecting someone else to protect your kid's online life is not only naive but also irresponsible.
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I think this tread has been bullshit from the beginning.

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If it's that much of a problem, change the email address.
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Not quite...it's every parent's responsibility to protect their kids...if the child is too young to understand the concept of something or to protect themselves it is the parent's duty to help shelter the kid from potential dangers.

Would you let your eight year old kid walk home at night from a friend's house three or four blocks away? No...you'd be too afraid of the child getting hit by a car, kidnapped or injured in any sense....hell you probably wouldn't let the kid walk that during the day. And why not? Because the kidnappers should know better than to try and steal a child so that automatically will make it safe?

Protecting your child from harmful elements is a responsibility for parents in all aspects of the child's life. Expecting someone else to protect your kid's online life is not only naive but also irresponsible.

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I am the single mother of an 8 year old child. My home computer requires a log in before it can complete booting up. The reason I chose to put a password on my computer is because I want to monitor my 8 year old childs internet use. When she is on the computer I am right by her, usually helping her with homework assignments. Her e-mail address is not published anywhere to my knowledge, we have never entered any sweeps and to my knowledge the only people who have her e-mail adress are her father and her friends.

With this information, why is she getting pornographic material in her e-mail box from http://www.legalnudeteens.com ?

I have requested removal well over 2 dozen times. I have called paycom to complain. I have called Visa, Mastercard and Discover to file a formal complaint. I have notified earthlink abuse and aol abuse... what more needs to be done? Why does this loser persue my child and what part of REMOVE do you not understand?

Signed a very involved and concerned parent.
I read most of this thread and here's the simple way to deal with this.

First, understand that spammers are spammers. I have an email address that only a couple of people know about and I still get spam to it. Spammers will send out blanket spams in hopes of finding any real email addresses they can.

By replying to the unsubscribe list all you have done is confirm that this is an actual live email address. Chances are they have now sold that email address to other people so the spamming has just begun.

You have two real choices here.

1. set up all the filters in the email program you are using to filter out anything even remotly adult related. this should take care of any problem you have

2. call you isp, explain what happened and get her a new email address. Don't give it out to anyone who's not a family friend. Many buisnesses will sell emails to companies who then sell them to other companies and so on. The gap may have sold thier list to someone else who then sold it 5 companies and in ends up in the hands of a spammer sending adult material. I have ICQ and nothing in the ICQ info makes any reference to where I live or what I do for a living. All it is is my nickname and that's it. And yet I still get adult spam ICQ'd to me.

after this do #3
3. calm down. I know you are upset but you need to understand that most of the people that make adult sites are normal people you meet everyday. With the #'s growing chances are you know someone that runs some adult sites on the side and you just don't know it. Many of them are people with kids and many of them are good, normal people. You aren't going to shut down the web, nobody is going to go to jail and a hit squad isn't going to kick this guys door in and eliminate him while he sleeps. Spammers are a very small # of people with large technical abilities. the best way to deal with them is to just use the tools at hand. Read the help files to lock down you system so you kid can't get to any adult sites and adult material can't get to your kid and problem is solved.
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Bull shit.

There's no way some spammer can get your daughters name unless YOU or someone YOU know gave it out.
You are so fucking stupid, lol. Emails do not have to be 'given out' to get on lists. I have 2 accounts I have never even used, let alone given the email to anybody. And BOTH of them are getting like 10 spam emails a day. ANd they are both just some random names. So ya, there goes your great idea.

Anyway...

Does your kid have a profile set up? That is a very easy way for people to harvest emails.

And I assume your child has never gone in a chatroom? That is another easy way to harvest emails.

Now that the email is on a list, its only a matter of time before it gets on more lists. The best thing to do at this point is just get a new email addy for her. And make sure her email is not published on any school pages or any other types of web pages. And do not set up profiles for the child, and never enter chat rooms.

Nothing is foolproof, or spamproof. But you can try, and when you fail just dump the email and get a new one.

And JimmyReject - you have to be one of the biggest assholes I have seen in some time. What makes it so hard for you to believe this is true? And why must you give her so much shit? Hell, even if she is BSing, what harm is it doing to you? You look like a pure ass harrassing a mother of a kid just trying to get help.
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Old 02-04-2003, 03:01 AM   #83
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LOL..... come on guys . this is bullshit ! if she is for real and knows nothing about the porn industry cus she is so pure then how did she get on GFY.

and on the chance that this is real. Lady get over it and burn your computer. Who the hell lets a 8 year old use these things anyway. Momy look its a penis when i typed in ice cream in www.google.com



Look i agree that shit is bad when it comes to minors and its wrong but dont think posting on GFY is gonna change the world and solve your problem... (this is why i really think this is fake)
who the fuck would post crap here and expect results.
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Old 02-04-2003, 03:06 AM   #84
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As a mom of a 6 year old and a 13 year old, the question I must ask is why the heck does an 8 year old have an email address anyways?

You said she doesn't sign up for anything online so why does she need one?

People might disagree with me, but the internet is NOT for children period. I don't care why kid's sites there are online, the internet is NOT kid friendly!

If you must allow her one for some IMPORTANT reason, ditch the one she has now, get her a new one and YOU read her mail BEFORE she gets to see it!
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Old 02-04-2003, 03:11 AM   #85
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As a mom of a 6 year old and a 13 year old, the question I must ask is why the heck does an 8 year old have an email address anyways?

You said she doesn't sign up for anything online so why does she need one?

People might disagree with me, but the internet is NOT for children period. I don't care why kid's sites there are online, the internet is NOT kid friendly!

If you must allow her one for some IMPORTANT reason, ditch the one she has now, get her a new one and YOU read her mail BEFORE she gets to see it!
I'm the same way... Having 3 kids in my home (5, 7 and 10 years old) non of them are allowed on-line unless I'm right next to them... Adult filters are set and thay can't even log on-line without a password (offcause I'm the only one how know's what that is)

And it will be over my dead body they ever got an e-mail addy
That is the only way to keep the kids away from internet porn..

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Old 02-04-2003, 03:11 AM   #86
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This is a bullshit post.

Nobody takes spam this seriously except loser anti spam crusaders.

Simple fact: if this parent is such a concerned fucking parent they would simply check their kid's email box before letting the kid look throught it.

Der.

My kid uses my computer at home and in my office. He's never seen a lick of porn, spam or otherwise. Not once.

And I'm not even that concerned a parent.
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wow, that was a lame attempt at stirring the pot.
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wow, that was a lame attempt at stirring the pot.

I kind of liked it. We havent had a decent troll on here in a long time.
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" To the person who suggested that her father is using his childs e-mail address to join a porn site, you have to be kidding right? We are responsible people here and he has his own e-mail address. He does not subscribe to porn sites and if he did he would use his own address. "

... and if you would find out he will get a good beating ... hahaha !!
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Old 02-04-2003, 03:59 AM   #90
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Here is the info on the guy, gal or company that owns the site!
Administrative Contact:
Admin, DNS [email protected]
Albony Investments Limited
Aldersgate Street
Barbican
London, London EC1A 4JQ
GB
44-870-160-5168
44-870-160-5168
...no problem I'll just nip around and ask them not to send anymore mail to her - what's her address again?
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As a mom of a 6 year old and a 13 year old, the question I must ask is why the heck does an 8 year old have an email address anyways?

You said she doesn't sign up for anything online so why does she need one?

People might disagree with me, but the internet is NOT for children period. I don't care why kid's sites there are online, the internet is NOT kid friendly!

If you must allow her one for some IMPORTANT reason, ditch the one she has now, get her a new one and YOU read her mail BEFORE she gets to see it!
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If this post was true, that advice would be #1 thing todo.

but however since 8yroldbitchwhore isnt a real parent.. and this was a fake post.. I hope she dies, her kid dies, her dog dies.. and her son overdoses on pillz in an IRC chatroom on cam very very soon.
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I hope she dies, her kid dies, her dog dies.. and her son overdoses on pillz in an IRC chatroom on cam very very soon.
Happy today pimpdog??? Just love those positive energies you send out
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If the spam is all for this legalnudeteens.com site, you may want to invest in an international phone call and contact the following:

[email protected]
Albony Investments Limited
126 Aldersgate Street
Barbican
London, London EC1A 4JQ
GB
44-870-160-5168
44-870-160-5168

It looks like Albony has a history either of spamming directly or hosting spammers as here are their listed abuse complaint e-mail addresses:

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

You could just put a filter in your daughter's e-mail reader for that one URL, but really people like this ought to be stopped. Other contact info for the camblaster.com site which the spammer site upsells (and which looks like it may have the same owners or at least designer) is:

master, dns [email protected]
New Harmony Enterprises Limited
2001 Central Plaza
18 Harbour Road
Wanchai, HK 00000
HK
415-723-7599

What looks like a San Francisco number with a Hong Kong address is kind of fishy, but sometimes you can make headway. New Harmony, the parent of camblaster.com, appears to get its hosting from a somewhat legit-sounding address in Los Angeles with the following contact info:

[email protected]
Alchemy Communications
The Garland Building
1200 West Seventh Street
Suite L1-100
Los Angeles, CA 90017
US
213-596-3000
fax 213-596-3004

Abuse notification e-mail addresses for alchemy.net are listed as:

[email protected]
[email protected]

I hope some of this is helpful to you. I would also have to agree with others who mentioned that spammers can just randomly mail to possible earthlink and aol addresses. I recommend getting a more obscure e-mail provider. I personally have found earthlink's customer service to be nightmarish.

Lastly, it makes no difference if all the adults in this woman's household are inveterate pornhounds. Her little girl should not have adult material forced on her and the people sending that spam to that little girl's personal e-mail should be ashamed of themselves.

Sincerely, Amelia G
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