supplying ponographic material to minors
 

I am the single mother of an 8 year old child. My home computer requires a log in before it can complete booting up. The reason I chose to put a password on my computer is because I want to monitor my 8 year old childs internet use. When she is on the computer I am right by her, usually helping her with homework assignments. Her e-mail address is not published anywhere to my knowledge, we have never entered any sweeps and to my knowledge the only people who have her e-mail adress are her father and her friends.

With this information, why is she getting pornographic material in her e-mail box from http://www.legalnudeteens.com ?

I have requested removal well over 2 dozen times. I have called paycom to complain. I have called Visa, Mastercard and Discover to file a formal complaint. I have notified earthlink abuse and aol abuse... what more needs to be done? Why does this loser persue my child and what part of REMOVE do you not understand?

Signed a very involved and concerned parent.

Although some assholes do this, the majority of adult webmasters are completely against it. So, I hope you get the jerk doing it.

is your daughters email address something to the effect of [name][number] i.e. [email protected]? if so, some list generators build seemingly valid addresses using word/number combinations.

you can set up filters in parental controls or use the mail center to block emails that contain the offending urls.

hope that helps.

Unfortunatly there are people who don't care who's getting the e-mails, they just send to any e-mail the can find. If you've tried to be removed but haven't, chances are you never will be. I suggest not giving your 8 year old his/her own e-mail address, unless you review the e-mails first. Sadly the internet is no place for unsupervised children.

There is a good chance that the culprit will never see this post. Hopefully they will, and they will feel a pang that will lead to changes-- but that is optimistic at best.

This is a sad effect of the current love affair with spam. People who use spam to promote don't think about who their emails are getting to, they see it all as numbers, conversions, and how many emails it takes to make each dollar.

I hope you get your child's email address gets removed from the list. I hope the spammers who are sending porn to an 8 year old get in trouble for it. Somehow, though, I think it might be easiest to create a new email account for your child, and be more careful with it. Its a shame that you can't decide what email you get, but it does seem to be the sad truth.

Something you might also want to try is setting up a few *very* restrictive mail filters, that kill all mail containing words like "sex", "porn", "adult", "boobs", etc etc etc

does her school teacher or ANY OTHER ADULT have her emial address?

Only way she can be getting this stuff is if someone used it for something, or if got picked up by a spider scaning through peoples email lists.

Someone who shouldnt have her email probably does.
That someone is probably someone you know, and that someone probably surfs buys porn and somehow the email leaked out.

Maybe her father or her friends used her email address to subscribe to a porn site?

Something just occurred to me: just set up a mail filter that only allows mail from addresses in the address book. That way, you should be able to never receive any unwanted mail.

good idea

The most pathetic spammers (oops, all spammers are pathetic) will send out bulk mailings with every possible name combination to a domain, for example, [email protected]. So there really is no "list" for you to be removed from. The best way to combat this is to pick a name that is a combination of letters and numbers that would not show up in any "dictionary" of names, etc. such as [email protected].

P.S. this is just a theory on my part. I don't spam or do a lot of research on spam techniques, so I don't know this to be a cold hard fact, but rather a well-educated guess as I am a network/security consultant for several companies.

SPAMMER

Also get some decent quality parental filtering software. This should stop the spamming assholes. EVERY parent should be using it with no exceptions and if they aren't then really aren't taking protection of their children seriously enough.

Sadly though like has been said, there is a small but hardcore (no pun intended) minority happy to send this crap to kids. Unfortunately some even post on this board :(

that's the most likely explanation. i used to have an email address at hotmail, adidas777 and i used to get emails where the to: field contained adidas700 thru adidas799, etc

i get discount offers on pills to make my penis larger.

I was thinking the same thing.

How in the hell did you end up at Go Fuck Yourself? You're obviously not new to porn...

Another thought, related to what Boneprone mentions... Klez-type viruses spread email addresses around simply based on the address book of the infected computer. That may explain how someone got the otherwise-secure email address.

Glad to see a responsible parent, get her a non-aol, hotmail, or yahoo email... Those no matter what will always get spam...

Is there an address that will not get spammed by these list generators? I have a feeling ytcracker may have the answer.

How about something like [email protected] ?

I'm always getting mail to info@mydomain, admin@mydomain, webmaster@mydomain

Fuckers need to to have their cocks removed.

keep her out of the aol chatrooms, people get email addresses from there. also, how the hell did you find GFY?

Probably a spammer, but still a good topic for discussion :thumbsup

All of the above listed are already in place. The person who is sending the e-mail is using my childs first name in the subject i.e. "Hi Sally" and each e-mail comes from a different e-mail address.

To the person who suggested that her father is using his childs e-mail address to join a porn site, you have to be kidding right? We are responsible people here and he has his own e-mail address. He does not subscribe to porn sites and if he did he would use his own address.

My only guess is that 2 months ago The Gap [clothing store] requested photos from children who would like to model their clothing sold her e-mail address when she submitted her photos. What porn site would buy e-mail address from a e-mail seller that gets their e-mail from model entries? It doesnt make sense.

A concerned and involved parent.

Exactly! Any real concerned parent who is naive to the adult industry would be calling their congressmen not hitting up the freaks at GFY

Warden

yeah, no way someone who has no interest in porn finds this site.

Only other suggestion is when they contacted visa they were told to "Go Fuck Yourself"


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I bet when lens sees that someone using "8yearoldchild" as a name on his board he'll ban it.

Something that can happen is this... Some "spammers" will send .html format emails with images on the email page. These images are "served" from the spammer's server.

What they sometimes do is, send out a MASS emailing to randomly generated usernames @ valid domain names. When an email is opened with images from the spammer, the spammer's server can log this "view" of the images and they can tell that it is a VALID email address.

Then you get added to every other spam list out there, and it will never stop. They will hunt you down to give you more credit card offers, and to refinance your home. I swear I get more NON-adult spam than I do adult spam.

In any case, if this is a possibility, I suggest changing, not opening emails unless you know the person it's coming from.

That's my :2 cents:.

hmm...well there are harvesters that simply detect whether an aol user is online and grabs the email that way.

there is also another rumor that an employee of aol is selling the member dumps.

either way, its too bad there isnt enough information available to the consumer about this.

http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~ddgarcia/gifs/spamcar97.jpg

I'm busting on a spammer by hotlinking a pic. Ironic?

Definetely get a new email and just keep it private and never use this one again.
Once an email has been spammed it will just be added to more and more spam lists and it will never stop.

Better off to start fresh and new.

Do the other thing I suggested. Not let any mail through from addresses that are not in the address book. Only add email addresses from people you know to the address book.

Tracking spam is usually almost impossible, they harvest it anywhere and everywhere, try to guess it, etc. Really no way to find out where they got the address.

Bull shit.

There's no way some spammer can get your daughters name unless YOU or someone YOU know gave it out.

Yeah The Gap can't be bothered to work on new lines for the winter collection, they harvest emails addys now and sell them to Russians.

Fucking Gap :321GFY

Sly's right, this is obviously a joke, a concerned parent wouldn't end up here.

Hmmm .... do a search on this board for "email list for sale", you'll be amazed at what is for sale.

It is an outrage I tell ya, an outrage!

I second punkworld's recommendation.

Do you really think that everyone is involved in your trade? pretty sad.

I am not involved with pornography and think myself a level headed person. What best way to resolve a problem than to go to the source? I am smart enough to know how to use the search engines and take it serious enough to follow through. The fact is that supplying ponographic material to my under aged child and attempting to supply my child with porn is a felony.

You can take this information and correct your problem or you can fuck your own self with your ignorance. I chose the responsible and logical route and you should as well.

Assuming this is real, which I'm pretty sure it isn't, that's not true. If the gap put their list of model applicants on the web somewhere for their own use, an e-mail harvestor would grab her info.

and don't forget about list generators, our own well known spammer, ytcracker, confirmed it.

Unless it's Sally @ AOL...then it could happen.

I'm sorry, I find it very strange that you ended up here at gfy too.
But if you ARE so concerned AND the ppl you mentioned are the only ones who are supposed to have her e-mail address why the hell not just get her a new one and call it a day? I don't see half as many complications with this as any other suggestions.

Ow and please let people know how you ended up at gfy cuz the suspense is really killing me here ;)

Good advice.

It is too true. She STILL gave the daughters name and email address to somebody. That's all I'm saying.

Go after the Gap, they gave away your email. Sue them. Find the Gap board and ask why they gave away your daughters email address AND name.

So which search terms did you use to get to GFY anyway?

Also in case this is real, "8yearoldchild", I'll add that since they had your daughters name, it wasn't one of the random things people here are talking about, like e-mail everything @yourdomain.com. They got it from somewhere, make sure your son/daughter isn't on any chat rooms he/she shouldn't be or anything like that.

How did you find this board?

8yearoldchild, just for the same reason we are against your kid getting spam, I am against your user name of "8yearoldchild". So I'll let you post, but you're going to have to get a new user name. Because posting as "8yearoldchild" on an adult webmaster board is offensive.

Email harvesting technique:

Send out a whole crapload of mail to almost every possible address at any of the well-known email providers. (list generators and such work wonders)

Make sure to include an "unsubscribe" link in your email.

Add all email addresses that are "unsubscribed" to your list.

Voila - you now have a list completely filled with working email addresses.

This isn't a case of simple email harvesting. The first name is involved. I get things addressed to Ryan daily, someone sold my name and email.

Your first name isn't Sylvester? All of my illusions are shattered.

Totally off topic, but if you're missing the cock i'm prepared to fuck you hard and fast.

That helps some.

The Gap uses

http://www.digitalimpact.com/php/home.php

Which appears to be permission marketing. Selling email addresses to porn spammers would put them out of business very quickly.

Then there's stuff like this:

http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HBGiveAways.shtml

And sites with "tell-a-friend" traps.

There are also klez-type e-mail worms that harvest e-mail address lists from each Windows user automatically.

Tracking down the exact source of a spam letter may not be the best use of a concerned parent's time. I am glad to see you being proactive about the situation.