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Old 07-10-2011, 07:59 AM   #1
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Runners...Step Inside

I recently started running. Needed to improve my cardio and this seemed like the best way to do it. I never thought I would run on regular basis but I admit that it has become very enjoyable and addicting!

For those more experience runners here on GFY what do you find most important? I am trying to put together some sort of routine now that I can actually run a few miles at a decent pace.

Miles?
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Duration/Time?
Mixed elevations?
Combo of all?
Additional suggestions?

Thanks in advance for your input!
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:08 AM   #2
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Combo of all. Just like weight training you should always be changing things up. Try some HIIT training as well on your runs.
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If you're just starting out just do it daily, even if it's a short run, run everyday.
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I got tired from just reading the thread title....
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they make bad snickers ?
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Combo of all. Just like weight training you should always be changing things up. Try some HIIT training as well on your runs.
Checking this out. Thanks Bryan!

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If you're just starting out just do it daily, even if it's a short run, run everyday.
Yeah getting up to that. been doing a few times a week now.


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Both funny posts!


Thanks again for the tips guys! Keep them coming!
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Are you aiming at burning fat? If yes then do interval runs with mixed speed/incline, make sure you run not less than 30 minutes as body starts burning fat only after 15-20 minutes of work out.

If you're just working on improving your stamina you can increase time little by little with each cardio work out, make sure you don't run fast.

Walking long distances with high incline is great cardio work out as well, many say it's even more effective than running and safer for your heart.

Personally I like mixing all of the above up, not within one work out, but let's say if today I don't feel like running I'll do walking with high incline or elliptical work out.

The most important - listen to your body and control your breath and heart rate.
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great comments. another tool to throw in the mix is a 5 to 10 mile hike on hilly terrain. no need to do it often, just once in a while to keep your activities fresh.
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Shoes would be the most important to me.. I have the nike vomero 6 and asics cumulus both are great.
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drink BCCA's during your run, your endurance will increase by about 10-15%
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Miles? Start with 3 then work up.
Pace? just jog, you don't need to sprint.
Duration/Time? 1 hour is good then work up to two.
Mixed elevations? hills are very good for your endurance!
Additional suggestions? Nike or Saucony (usually are lighter) shoes! Ice your shins if they start hurting..
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do you take chemicals for taking a shit too?


combination is the safest way to go... mix in high tempo runs with long slow runs and you will maximize from the benefits from it.

also check out this book on running form by Danny Dreyer it's called Chi Running. Best 10 bucks you will ever spend on running... I've read 10 books on the subject and none are as simple and affective as this.
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Miles? Start with 3 then work up.
Pace? just jog, you don't need to sprint.
Duration/Time? 1 hour is good then work up to two.
Mixed elevations? hills are very good for your endurance!
Additional suggestions? Nike or Saucony (usually are lighter) shoes! Ice your shins if they start hurting..
Listening to your favorite tunes help too.
if your shins hurt just stop using your toes to kick off. You shouldn't be using them at all anyway, land on the midfoot and don't toe kick and you will never get shin splints again. Also if you have knee or back pain when you are running you are probably landing on the heals too much.

Basically good form is leaning forward, like a ski jumper, and let the legs fall forward. As soon as you start kicking forward then you are using more muscles than needed and will tire out faster and get sore.

I'm talking for distance running here, but if you want to avoid pain this is the right way to go.
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I would suggest finding some runs in your area in the near future (5k, 10k, etc) so you have some goals to work towards instead of just running to run as that may get boring.

Injury prevention is the key. Increase your time and/or distance by no more than 10% per week or you will be asking for injury. Stretch, stretch, strech after every run. I would suggest buying a foam roller too.
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if your shins hurt just stop using your toes to kick off. You shouldn't be using them at all anyway, land on the midfoot and don't toe kick and you will never get shin splints again. Also if you have knee or back pain when you are running you are probably landing on the heals too much.

Basically good form is leaning forward, like a ski jumper, and let the legs fall forward. As soon as you start kicking forward then you are using more muscles than needed and will tire out faster and get sore.

I'm talking for distance running here, but if you want to avoid pain this is the right way to go.
I have flat feet so have always had Shin splints problems.
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If you want to get in to running, there's any number of good training plans available free online. Pick something you like as a goal (5K run, 10K run, Half Marathon, Full Marathon, whatever) and find a plan that's tailored for that. Proper training for running specifically includes different kinds of training. Some for endurance, some for strength, some for speed, etc.
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combination is the safest way to go... mix in high tempo runs with long slow runs and you will maximize from the benefits from it.

also check out this book on running form by Danny Dreyer it's called Chi Running. Best 10 bucks you will ever spend on running... I've read 10 books on the subject and none are as simple and affective as this.
what the hell are you talking about? chemicals? you mean supplementation of amino acids that the majority of people dont get...if i told u to take a multivitamin would u think those are chemicals too? its the same thing, not all aminos are found in food...
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on average i bike and run 10-14 miles a week. this app came pre-programmed on my iphone 4 and its actually pretty awesome.
http://www.macworld.com/article/1539...e_running.html

i like after a few miles it will applaud you and tell you how awesome you are. the app also tells you when you are sucking LoL over all its pretty cool.
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Miles? Start with 3 then work up.
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Mixed elevations? hills are very good for your endurance!
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Two hours jogging? Who has time for that and can stand the boredom..
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on average i bike and run 10-14 miles a week. this app came pre-programmed on my iphone 4 and its actually pretty awesome.
http://www.macworld.com/article/1539...e_running.html

i like after a few miles it will applaud you and tell you how awesome you are. the app also tells you when you are sucking LoL over all its pretty cool.


Does this one need some kinda adapter or does it just work? I have some chip in my running shoes but never worked out how to use it
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what the hell are you talking about? chemicals? you mean supplementation of amino acids that the majority of people dont get...if i told u to take a multivitamin would u think those are chemicals too? its the same thing, not all aminos are found in food...
just because it is found in food doesn't make it a good idea to take during a run.. Creatine is found in most meats but i wouldn't suggest people taking that shit during a run either. Only thing i've seen people take during races is power gels and gatorade.. anything more than that is a waste of time... If you are doing an ironman or a 100k? then i would recommend eating FOOD at some point other than that you are making your local supplement dealer rich on bullshit.
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lol youre clearly ignorant on the subject...creatine makes u retain water, amino acids give you energy that your body doesnt need to break down making it immediately bioavailable...its basically pre broken down protein. Before coming at me, why dont u do a little search on google on the benefits of BCAA's in endurance running....
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http://www.cumberlandspatriots.com/s...nceRunning.pdf

http://www.poweringmuscles.com/Sport...g_Running.html

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?p=354400451

http://www.dailymile.com/groups/1153...-how-they-help

http://www.motleyhealth.com/diet-and...ness-nutrition

if you need any more links let me know ;)
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Shouldn't the thread title read:

"Runners - Jog inside" lol
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runkeeper pro is a great app to monitor your runs.
also warm up and cool down properly and stretch out after each run.

and put some good 80's music on the playlist to run to
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^^^^ those vibrams are also supposed to be great for running
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some great feedback here guys! Thanks!

I have used the runtastic app as well as Nike one. runtastic is pretty good.
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i guess PR glen wont be responding, got a lil foot in the mouth syndrome eh? ;)
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after you download the app is just works no chip.
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This is a great video, a must see for anyone who likes, think they might like, or doesn't like running ;)

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lol youre clearly ignorant on the subject...creatine makes u retain water, amino acids give you energy that your body doesnt need to break down making it immediately bioavailable...its basically pre broken down protein. Before coming at me, why dont u do a little search on google on the benefits of BCAA's in endurance running....
i didn't say they were bad for you, i have taken them before myself. I said there is no need for them on a run...

What do you think happens to your organs when you take as many supplements as you obviously do? just because they work for muscles doesn't mean you aren't poisoning yourself...

Ignorant? I have run 3 full marathons and have done 3 triathlons, what are your qualifications on running? or endurance training? I did these with a power lifters frame so it wasn't easy. I had to do a lot of research to even be able to finish any endurance race and if it wasn't for some health issues of my own I would be doing them to this day.
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did i say there was a need? all i did was say that it would help with muscle wasting and endurance. I take protein, creatine, and a multi. I get bloodwork every 6 months and im in excellent health.
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