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Nathan 01-16-2011 11:34 AM

Eric,

sure, not everyone is... I said good things about Paul here even. I like signupdamnit's posts, others have shown intellect..

YOU on the other hand, show nothing...

RycEric 01-16-2011 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17848531)
Eric,

sure, not everyone is... I said good things about Paul here even. I like signupdamnit's posts, others have shown intellect..

YOU on the other hand, show nothing...

I show enough to turn down your company's request for services 5 times now in the past 6 months. :1orglaugh Oops.

Nathan 01-16-2011 11:42 AM

Eric, interesting, who is contacting you? Considering we use Degban alongside our own internal crew and have no interest in using your services...

jonnydoe 01-16-2011 11:45 AM

I envy your success which not many will admit to here but I just don't see what good it does for you to bicker about details of your operation. GFY is a bit like crack, but man go spend some of that money while you have it. You never know when your last day will come or the money won't be there any longer. Life is finite.

RycEric 01-16-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17848539)
Eric, interesting, who is contacting you? Considering we use Degban alongside our own internal crew and have no interest in using your services...

Tank, one of your lawyers, your Euro group, etc. Whatever avenue.. we'll shoot it down everytime. Degban is too busy removing from thepiratebay and maintaining website scanning technology, which rivals google, so I can see that.

RycEric 01-16-2011 11:51 AM

Gotta run Fabian. Much work to be done. Nice to chat with you as always. :thumbsup

Nathan 01-16-2011 12:06 PM

Eric, thx for the heads up, I'll make sure nobody bothers you ever again, if it does happen, let me know...

topnotch, standup guy 01-16-2011 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17848120)
"When the winds of change blow, some people build walls and others build windmills..."

:2 cents:

And others drop to their knees and open their mouths.

The nice thing about threads like this is that the rest of us get a pretty good idea where lots of people stand.
.

looky_lou 01-16-2011 12:39 PM

Where did all of our Epassporte money go? Maybe we have an answer. :)

Juicy D. Links 01-16-2011 12:44 PM

I just bought this

http://xdress.com/media/images/uploa...c97940eb20.jpg

DWB 01-16-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17848202)
While nothing is easy, getting together 100m or 500m in investments, with a solid business plan isn't really all that hard. It happens many many many times, every single day of the week... and while a 100m may sound like a lot, it really is a drop in the bucket.

In the mainstream world, you are 100% correct.

However, that is a shit load of money for the porn world.

To put things into perspective (info found on google)....

Larry Flynt's net worth way back in 2001 during the glory days, was $400 million.

Hugh Hefner used to be worth a lot (600 million) but these days it's under $100 million.

Both of these guys built their empires over a lifetime. Nathan built his in 3 years. :upsidedow

What I do know is, if I had that kind of cash, responsibility, connections and know-how, I sure as hell would not be wasting my time on GFY trying to defend my position to people I didn't even know. I'd expect that from one of his lower grade uploader employees, but not from a man who could make such a power move within 3 short years. With that kind of cash it would be ALL about my family and my business. But to each his own. Maybe he is just lonely and emotionally dysfunctional. Then it would at least make a little sense.

Spending the weekends posting on GFY trying to explain himself over and over and over again to dick heads like us, is exactly what someone with his ability, connections and know-how should be doing. Yea, makes perfect sense. Not sure how I didn't see that before. Sorry Nathan, I believe you now.

Barefootsies 01-16-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 17848570)
And others drop to their knees and open their mouths.

Again with your obvious personal unresolved, childhood, homosexual issues? Two words, 'seek help'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 17848570)
The nice thing about threads like this is that the rest of us get a pretty good idea where lots of people stand.

Here's a beer. Now go enjoy a good cry.


:2 cents:

Zyber 01-16-2011 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17848340)
will76, what most people here do not realize is, that what I did was not:

1) Sell NATS shares
2) Start my own amateur site
3) Buy Mansef

Buy Mansef is step 10), step 3-9 is completely ignored...

I looked at over 200 companies/sites over the past 4 years, I bought around 10... Mansef was #8. More is possible in adult than you think, with growth/optimizing and so on...

So you did buy Mansef after all?

Haven't you always claimed you never bought Mansef but only its assets?

BlackCrayon 01-16-2011 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17848340)
will76, what most people here do not realize is, that what I did was not:

1) Sell NATS shares
2) Start my own amateur site
3) Buy Mansef

Buy Mansef is step 10), step 3-9 is completely ignored...

I looked at over 200 companies/sites over the past 4 years, I bought around 10... Mansef was #8. More is possible in adult than you think, with growth/optimizing and so on...

Just imagine:
1) Buy a site worth 6m in adult, it will make likely 350k profit a month.
2) Grow that site through planned optimizations to 600k over a period of 3 months.
3) After 12 months you have your 6m back.
4) Buy another site for 10m, 6m upfront, it will profit around 500k a month
5) Grow the two sites, through synergies and optimization again from 1.1m to 1.5m in 3 months.
6) After 12 months you made 13,2m - 4m rest payments, 13.2m free and clear.
7) Buy another site for 20m, 13m upfront, it will profit around 1.5m a month
8) Grow the three sites, through synergies and such again, from 3m to 4m in 3 months.
9) After 12 months you made 46m - 7m payment, thats 39m cash free and clear.
10) It just took me 3 years to make 6m into 39m for the next acquisition, I also make 4m more each month...

I am of course not saying this is easy to do, but its clearly possible... You just need to know what you are doing and how to do it. You need to of course also find the right things to buy...

pffft, you own shit man. you are so obviously a face man for people who do not want to be associated with porn. you look like you are 25 or so...

will76 01-16-2011 02:01 PM

BEFORE:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 17848156)

AFTER:

http://skiwhitefish.com/blog/wp-cont...drunk-cat1.jpg

DWB 01-16-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17848699)
Times are changing DWB and we will see much more to come. WTS, im with you, I'd cash out and be on a plane and trying to get as much distance as possible from this business and site.

Yeppers.

I just can't imagine having that kind of dough and checking in on GFY every weekend to try to make people believe something about me. Hell, I can't image having a fraction of that dough and still coming here.

fris 01-16-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17848325)
surely someone worth 100s of millions of dollar would have an interesting one. :winkwink:.

hes hardly worth that at all.

harvey 01-16-2011 03:36 PM

back to the thread subject, Manwin or not, I think that unless there's other better resource, everybody (including me) will keep posting and doing business here. Maybe for some people who can attend shows, have other kind of contacts or stuff like that is easier to move out, but for those in the services area (design, programming, content and such), and ven more those of us outside US, something like GFY is a need, we'd do less than 50% of the business we already do, and that's a fact. Besides, it's not like hypocrisy in this board is something new, I bet that 99% of the people against Manwin would sell their souls for the right money. Hey... many already did! :winkwink:

Paul Markham 01-16-2011 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17848302)
Paul, sorry for not replying sooner to this, had to check my docs and I was not home...

We have 39815 sqft in 7777 Decarie. This includes our cafeteria though. So close to the 12.5 sqm value from TOCS 2003 you posted (did not see that image either when I replied via iphone before)... so, we fit in just fine...

We are growing though, so we are added over 10000 sqft, going up to 51356 sqft.

As I said before, your price calc was quite good... a bit too higher for avg employee, considering this includes north american support people...

What I have yet to understand though is what you are trying to achieve with your calculation... other than maybe showing that you know how to read stats and can calculate 300*17.5*10.7*$25 and 300*$50000... you did that one quite well I must admit! :)

Well you posted it on GFY so it must be true. :1orglaugh

A CEO of a company that size would know the size of his office space.

How many floors doe you occupy in that building?

As I told you office planning IS something I know about.

Paul Markham 01-16-2011 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17848666)
In the mainstream world, you are 100% correct.

However, that is a shit load of money for the porn world.

To put things into perspective (info found on google)....

Larry Flynt's net worth way back in 2001 during the glory days, was $400 million.

Hugh Hefner used to be worth a lot (600 million) but these days it's under $100 million.

Both of these guys built their empires over a lifetime. Nathan built his in 3 years. :upsidedow

What I do know is, if I had that kind of cash, responsibility, connections and know-how, I sure as hell would not be wasting my time on GFY trying to defend my position to people I didn't even know. I'd expect that from one of his lower grade uploader employees, but not from a man who could make such a power move within 3 short years. With that kind of cash it would be ALL about my family and my business. But to each his own. Maybe he is just lonely and emotionally dysfunctional. Then it would at least make a little sense.

Spending the weekends posting on GFY trying to explain himself over and over and over again to dick heads like us, is exactly what someone with his ability, connections and know-how should be doing. Yea, makes perfect sense. Not sure how I didn't see that before. Sorry Nathan, I believe you now.

Would of loved to listen to the part of the conversation which covered Pornhub.

Manwin "Well it's a Tube site like Youtube, but for porn. Users submit videos of their own and we are in the clear on 2257 because it's User Submitted.

Bankers. What if the actors are under 18?

Manwin. We watch for that.

Bankers. How do you know?

Manwin. We can tell.

Bankers. What if the submitter is submitting videos he's not allowed to.

Manwin. We ignore it until we get a DMCA.

Bankers. We've read the porn industry is in decline.

Manwin. Not if you give out a lot of free content.

Of course in that case you can have $150 million. :1orglaugh


Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17848726)
Yeppers.

I just can't imagine having that kind of dough and checking in on GFY every weekend to try to make people believe something about me. Hell, I can't image having a fraction of that dough and still coming here.

Did you check some of the times he posted?

TheDoc 01-16-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17848666)
In the mainstream world, you are 100% correct.

However, that is a shit load of money for the porn world.

To put things into perspective (info found on google)....

Larry Flynt's net worth way back in 2001 during the glory days, was $400 million.

Hugh Hefner used to be worth a lot (600 million) but these days it's under $100 million.

Both of these guys built their empires over a lifetime. Nathan built his in 3 years. :upsidedow

What I do know is, if I had that kind of cash, responsibility, connections and know-how, I sure as hell would not be wasting my time on GFY trying to defend my position to people I didn't even know. I'd expect that from one of his lower grade uploader employees, but not from a man who could make such a power move within 3 short years. With that kind of cash it would be ALL about my family and my business. But to each his own. Maybe he is just lonely and emotionally dysfunctional. Then it would at least make a little sense.

Spending the weekends posting on GFY trying to explain himself over and over and over again to dick heads like us, is exactly what someone with his ability, connections and know-how should be doing. Yea, makes perfect sense. Not sure how I didn't see that before. Sorry Nathan, I believe you now.

Flynt is still kicking it, for sure with the Casino business now. :)

One thing to note that both Flynt and Hefner don't have, then or now, is major online global reach. Cut the B.S. both actually suck at it, for who they are - they both really dropped the ball online.

They could have been much larger... Nathan and hahaha aren't the only super powers in our Industry. They just happen to be the two you hear about.



Yes, Nathan could tell us to piss off or ignore us. But that wouldn't benefit him very much for reputation management/repairing reps, stopping rumors, etc. He's also the person with the info, and it sounds and looks like he doesn't have a right hand person he trusts to do that job.

I read an article several weeks back that talked about major corps, like some of the top 500. Where the CEO's were going online more, Twitter, Facebook, actually sending emails to customers, etc. Doing rep management, solving issues hands on, watching the issues they really have... We will start seeing more and more of this as more people learn to research before they buy.

That mixed with not having someone around that can do a better job than yourself, would probably mean any of us would be doing what he is.....if we cared at all.

TheDoc 01-16-2011 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17848937)
Would of loved to listen to the part of the conversation which covered Pornhub.

Manwin "Well it's a Tube site like Youtube, but for porn. Users submit videos of their own and we are in the clear on 2257 because it's User Submitted.

Bankers. What if the actors are under 18?

Manwin. We watch for that.

Bankers. How do you know?

Manwin. We can tell.

Bankers. What if the submitter is submitting videos he's not allowed to.

Manwin. We ignore it until we get a DMCA.

Bankers. We've read the porn industry is in decline.

Manwin. Not if you give out a lot of free content.

Of course in that case you can have $150 million. :1orglaugh




Did you check some of the times he posted?

Bankers? I'm pretty damn sure they didn't go to the bank. :1orglaugh


I've owned a pretty damn good program and worked 24/7 and was online all the time to field questions. If I had what Nathan had, you would see even more of me, not less.

Barry-xlovecam 01-16-2011 04:20 PM

This is an interesting supposition, an unconfirmed rumor that would also constitute an ethical dilemma. In answer to the OP's question;

Our holding company, ACWebconnecting, B.V. has a policy of not engaging any copyright infringing activities. And yes, we are larger that just Xlovecam and ACWM.

I can see no point in speculating on unconfirmed rumor ? so far, this is just "mental masturbation."

PornMD 01-16-2011 04:37 PM

I despise them, think they're crooks, and believe their empire is built on thievery, lies and other deception. That said, there's not many businesses out there that wouldn't want to fist fuck all their competition, and most if not all of you probably use products/services every day by companies who operate with that notion. They may not be doing it with crime, but they're likely trying to find any and every loophole imaginable to screw their competition, and of course all the "illegal" tubes owned by Manwin and others all capitalize on the one big loophole that is DMCA.

Anyways, what I'm saying is get pissed at the DMCA and fight for better protection of content, get pissed at underhanded shit that's being done, but you really can't get pissed about a company's desire to fuck everyone else because it's just way too prevalent these days.

arock10 01-16-2011 05:01 PM

I'm not sure if its been covered yet Nathan, but what is your favorite color?

mikke 01-16-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 17848994)
I'm not sure if its been covered yet Nathan, but what is your favorite color?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh.. and favorite flower :winkwink:

Lamis 01-16-2011 05:30 PM

I can't believe how much time some people waste in this forum..

If they wrote all those keywords on a personal blog, GOOGLE would love them.

Check all the keywords they wrote in this threads, hours and hours wasted for nothing..

When do they work? Do they really work?

Anxiety makes some people want to write all the time and fight with others.

will76 01-16-2011 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 17849051)
I can't believe how much time some people waste in this forum..

If they wrote all those keywords on a personal blog, GOOGLE would love them.

Check all the keywords they wrote in this threads, hours and hours wasted for nothing..

When do they work? Do they really work?

Anxiety makes some people want to write all the time and fight with others.

Well, Nathan claims to have went from a couple million to owning 100+ million dollar companies in just 3 years time and he wastes a lot of time here posting and fighting with others. :winkwink:

My take on this board, for people like me is that I add more value to it then I get back. I should started my own blog and post my thoughts there instead of helping to add value to someone else's site helping them make ad dollars. I like eric so its all good, but if Manwin really does buy this place I'm going to start that blog. The last thing I will do is ad value to anything they own.

Pipecrew 01-16-2011 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17849173)
Well, Nathan claims to have went from a couple million to owning 100+ million dollar companies in just 3 years time and he wastes a lot of time here posting and fighting with others. :winkwink:

My take on this board, for people like me is that I add more value to it then I get back. I should started my own blog and post my thoughts there instead of helping to add value to someone else's site helping them make ad dollars. I like eric so its all good, but if Manwin really does buy this place I'm going to start that blog. The last thing I will do is ad value to anything they own.

Mark Zuckerberg - 70 billion in 7 years.

Lamis 01-16-2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17849173)
Well, Nathan claims to have went from a couple million to owning 100+ million dollar companies in just 3 years time and he wastes a lot of time here posting and fighting with others. :winkwink:

My take on this board, for people like me is that I add more value to it then I get back. I should started my own blog and post my thoughts there instead of helping to add value to someone else's site helping them make ad dollars. I like eric so its all good, but if Manwin really does buy this place I'm going to start that blog. The last thing I will do is ad value to anything they own.

that's right, the business right now are user generated content social sites Facebook, but also a forum.., where the owner just sit down and relax and all his FREE SLAVES work for nothing adding more unique content every 10 minutes.

will76 01-16-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 17849314)
Mark Zuckerberg - 70 billion in 7 years.

1. mainstream
2. can you name 10 other people? In adult? probably not. Doing that is very very rare even in mainstream.
3. does he post on gfy and waste his time here too?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 17849357)
that's right, the business right now are user generated content social sites Facebook, but also a forum.., where the owner just sit down and relax and all his FREE SLAVES work for nothing adding more unique content every 10 minutes.

yeap.. i agree. Its the people using facebook that makes it so valuable just the same as the people like us posting on a message board giving it value, and we all get paid $0 by the owners to make them lots of money.

Free labor, owner has very little over head.

Nathan 01-16-2011 11:41 PM

Weird... I spend maybe 30-60 minutes posting in total on the weekend on this site, and somehow this is "wasting a lot of time"? You guys are funny...

I have even tried giving you a hint as to how I achieved what I did, but yet instead of wondering how you could use this info to your benefit, you continue to say I am a liar... no vision people, no vision at all!

Paul, when did I ever say that I am the CEO of Manwin Canada? I am not the CEO of Manwin Canada, I do not care how big exactly the office is. All I knew was that the extended lease is around 50000 sqft, but I did not know the exact number so I waited a whole 6 hours until I was home to verify since I could not find it on my iPhone...

To answer your question, 65% of 3rd floor for Management & Admin (rest of it is empty, reserved for us, we just did not build it out yet to not waste cash), 100% of 4th floor for general public, open floor office with conference rooms, 50% of 2nd floor for Support and our content pre and post production currently (likely either of the two are being moved to 3rd floor soon to expand the other) and for our cafeteria and in-house servers, ups, tech room.

We are growing to 100% 3rd, 100% 2nd and option on 5th and 6th when they clear out...

ShellyCrash 01-16-2011 11:56 PM

http://www.solargeneral.com/images/8...he-curtain.jpg

DWB 01-17-2011 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 17848626)

You always know how to pull at my cock string Juicy.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17848949)
One thing to note that both Flynt and Hefner don't have, then or now, is major online global reach. Cut the B.S. both actually suck at it, for who they are - they both really dropped the ball online.

Perhaps the understatement of 2011.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 17849051)
I can't believe how much time some people waste in this forum..

If they wrote all those keywords on a personal blog, GOOGLE would love them.

Check all the keywords they wrote in this threads, hours and hours wasted for nothing..

When do they work? Do they really work?

Anxiety makes some people want to write all the time and fight with others.

I actually work for Manwin as an upload technician. But they also pay me to bump any thread Nathan posts in.

DamianJ 01-17-2011 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17848208)
That's the point...

No, this is the point:

100 videos for $1,000......100 videos for $1,000......19 HD videos for $150......19 HD videos for $150......More Special Offers

ICQ 213327873 or Skype paulmarkham1

And is the only point.

Every time you reply to him, it gives him another chance to spam his content that he has claimed is not good enough any more.

Ignore him and he will stop posting. It's worked on other boards. This is the only one left now he posts on really.

Ignore him, he will stop.

He has retired and posts here solely to wind people up. Worked with me before I sussed his game. I suggest you give up. We all know you get it in ways he cannot even fathom.

Let him fester in his own piss and shit soaked stretch pants.

tonyparra 01-17-2011 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17849505)
Weird... I spend maybe 30-60 minutes posting in total on the weekend on this site, and somehow this is "wasting a lot of time"? You guys are funny...

I have even tried giving you a hint as to how I achieved what I did, but yet instead of wondering how you could use this info to your benefit, you continue to say I am a liar... no vision people, no vision at all!

Paul, when did I ever say that I am the CEO of Manwin Canada? I am not the CEO of Manwin Canada, I do not care how big exactly the office is. All I knew was that the extended lease is around 50000 sqft, but I did not know the exact number so I waited a whole 6 hours until I was home to verify since I could not find it on my iPhone...

To answer your question, 65% of 3rd floor for Management & Admin (rest of it is empty, reserved for us, we just did not build it out yet to not waste cash), 100% of 4th floor for general public, open floor office with conference rooms, 50% of 2nd floor for Support and our content pre and post production currently (likely either of the two are being moved to 3rd floor soon to expand the other) and for our cafeteria and in-house servers, ups, tech room.

We are growing to 100% 3rd, 100% 2nd and option on 5th and 6th when they clear out...

Nathan how you doing sir? You could shut them all up by allowing me to work for your great company.:winkwink:

DWB 01-17-2011 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 17849820)
Nathan how you doing sir? You could shut them all up by allowing me to work for your great company.:winkwink:

If you can beat their current employee record of 2000 uploads within 4 months, I bet they would hire you. :2 cents:

You'd only have to make 17 uploads a day, every day for 4 months, to get it. Totally possible if that was all you did all day.

Good luck!

Zyber 01-17-2011 07:17 AM

An army of 300 dedicated uploaders.. That's serious business.

arock10 01-17-2011 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17849505)
To answer your question, 65% of 3rd floor for Management & Admin (rest of it is empty, reserved for us, we just did not build it out yet to not waste cash), 100% of 4th floor for general public, open floor office with conference rooms, 50% of 2nd floor for Support and our content pre and post production currently (likely either of the two are being moved to 3rd floor soon to expand the other) and for our cafeteria and in-house servers, ups, tech room.

We are growing to 100% 3rd, 100% 2nd and option on 5th and 6th when they clear out...

How many restrooms do you currently have? Do you have sufficient cleaning staff? Are you aware you typically need 3 toilets for girls for every 2 toilets for guys? What if the 5th and 6th floors you are planning on taking over are from an all girl company? The toilet math would be completely be thrown off! Is Manwin prepared for all these potential challenges as it expands or will it just crash and burn like many other previous adult companies?

God help you.

adultmobile 01-17-2011 07:45 AM

There is lots of companies in online adult doing lots of money, think at big cam and traffic broker networks for example... just they will not tell their financials in forums as fear the tax thing :)
About miracle buy... in past 3 years lots of big sites was sold and purchased for multi million deals, but in silent mode, as buyer was not hahaha or manwin. And if it is not hahaha or manwin to buy, no one knows (at times not even the employees know who is the new owner lol). That's because most (except manwin?) will not write any press, not reply any forum rumor, and hide big time, but not because they're mafia or money launder people really. They're geeks. Note that the italian mafia's yearly revenue is $90 billion, russian one may be not that smaller, and offshore banks investors deal the billion things, so I don't think they really care to $100 million deals like buy pornhub and put nathan there. Yes $100 million looks big for a site but is small for the real conspiracy theory people.

Nathan is just one who replies to forum people giving info (eventually too much info, if he was my puppet leader I would have fired him for talking too much, le seems more like Steve Jobs who reply in person to email of guy who say iphone 4 sucks as drops signal iof hold left handed, and he reply hold it with the other hand) and this talkative attitude sure is more shocking and uncommon than the $100 million thing or the whole tube theft content thing. Oh by the way I advertized on pornhub and conversion is indeed low :)

Just my 2 euro cents


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