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DWB 01-15-2011 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847187)
DWB, this is another thing I do not get... even if you do not believe that I am really in charge, why would you keep discrediting yourself and claiming I am not, calling me a liar and basically making sure that I will never ever respect you because of the crap you write...
This may be difficult for you to fathom, but I do not require your respect.

signupdamnit 01-15-2011 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17847275)
Yes I would still post here, just like all you guys saying they won't.
Roald. Watch this............

DWB 01-15-2011 03:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17847334)
You seemed to skip over the obvious, they failed to pay dozens of affiliates and ignored any email complaints, not after, but while you were under contract with them. After more than 20 threads about this, all we kept hearing from you and Robbie was, "hey, they are paying me", must be a problem with you guys.
Yea man, I was getting paid. So were other I$ affiliates I knew, and I know this for fact because I asked around when those accusations started to fly. If someone doesn't get paid for any number of reasons, but many other affiliates are, I can only assume there is a problem with that affiliate. Not unheard of in this business, especially with PPS. Don't know what else I can say about that. That was none of my business and I can only say now what I said then, that I was usually paid on time.

Furthermore, I was under a contract to them DURING the chaos, but signed it way before anything came to light. What did you want me to do, be in breach of contract with them over unknown webmasters claiming they've been scammed, yet not one of them could prove it?

I don't know what people expected me to do. That wasn't my company and I had zero say in anything. I spoke my mind on the board about what I saw and what I didn't, and in the end I ended up being wrong about some of the things I said, and that was the end of that.



Quote:
Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17847334)
Who knows for sure on the card banging allegations, your test was worthless as it seemed it all came to a quick halt once they were first accused. The soloconverts charges that mysteriously started appearing on people's cards were not part of the original cross sales and it made more sense once it was revealed I$ was in bed with them.
lazycash, that rabbit hole runs deep. Very deep, and it's not as cut and dry as everyone wants it to be. I$, SoloConverts, SOBV and a lot of others all had/have common and very intertwined threads.

My tests with them were at different times and during the height of the accusations. But like I said, they were shady for sure, but I was never dinged on any card I used to test them. Believe me, I would LOVE to tell you otherwise.

In the end they fucked most everyone, made off with a ton of cash and are still in business with plenty of webmasters STILL sending them traffic even though they are not getting paid for their sales. JJ from SOBV did the same thing. It's a numbers game to them and they got away with huge amounts of money and no one will ever do anything about it, other than sulk.

Your traffic was skimmed, your sales were shaved and your money was stolen. That's porn. :Oh crap

lazycash 01-15-2011 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17847365)
Yea man, I was getting paid. So were other I$ affiliates I knew, and I know this for fact because I asked around when those accusations started to fly. If someone doesn't get paid for any number of reasons, but many other affiliates are, I can only assume there is a problem with that affiliate. Not unheard of in this business, especially with PPS. Don't know what else I can say about that. That was none of my business and I can only say now what I said then, that I was usually paid on time.

Furthermore, I was under a contract to them DURING the chaos, but signed it way before anything came to light. What did you want me to do, be in breach of contract with them over unknown webmasters claiming they've been scammed, yet not one of them could prove it?

I don't know what people expected me to do. That wasn't my company and I had zero say in anything. I spoke my mind on the board about what I saw and what I didn't, and in the end I ended up being wrong about some of the things I said, and that was the end of that.





lazycash, that rabbit hole runs deep. Very deep, and it's not as cut and dry as everyone wants it to be. I$, SoloConverts, SOBV and a lot of others all had/have common and very intertwined threads.

My tests with them were at different times and during the height of the accusations. But like I said, they were shady for sure, but I was never dinged on any card I used to test them. Believe me, I would LOVE to tell you otherwise.

In the end they fucked most everyone, made off with a ton of cash and are still in business with plenty of webmasters STILL sending them traffic even though they are not getting paid for their sales. JJ from SOBV did the same thing. It's a numbers game to them and they got away with huge amounts of money and no one will ever do anything about it, other than sulk.

Your traffic was skimmed, your sales were shaved and your money was stolen. That's porn. :Oh crap
Consider this squashed, sorry I cluttered up this thread talking about I$. At that time I had just wanted you to have the same investigative skepticism towards I$ you now have with Manwin, but I didn't realize you were under contract with I$. I now understand why your reaction was what it was.

I particularly agree with this, "that rabbit hole runs deep. Very deep, and it's not as cut and dry as everyone wants it to be. I$, SoloConverts, SOBV and a lot of others all had/have common and very intertwined threads."

looky_lou 01-15-2011 03:31 PM
Still posting. Money is in motion. Canadian anyway. :)

PAR 01-15-2011 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17846574)
maybe cams or dating,
cam site... they already have a dating site....

Pipecrew 01-15-2011 04:09 PM
Wait a second. You have to have 150 million upfront cash to buy a 150 million dollar company? Interesting

ThumbLord 01-15-2011 04:33 PM
As long as you make money through this board you will stay and use it as usual.
On the other hand if you come here only for entertainment there are other boards.
Maybe 5 to 10 people maximum, will actually "leave" this board.
Although I hate everything Manwin does to this Industry and if they will be the new owners I will keep on visiting this board.
And so will YOU.
I am glad I have my own little board to worry about. :thumbsup

garce 01-15-2011 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847206)
I do not mind any of that, the only thing I object to is that we "destroy much of the industry" ... but oh well, we'll see how that goes over the next 5 years I guess, we really should discuss all this again in a few years...
Now I'm interested. I can't wait to see how this plays out in five years time. I have a reason to stick around now.

will76 01-15-2011 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847246)
will76, or giving details would break confidentiality agreements about detailed deal terms which I can not break...

will76, anyone today can still do what I did, you just need to know how...

There is plenty of things that I would still love to buy that I can not right now... my funds are not limitless, if they came from stuff like the russian mob, I would be buying much much more.. the russian mob has a LOT of cash...
I think hahaha did what you did, for the people who knows what hahaha really did.

(say that one 5x real fast.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 17847306)
Will76

I think you forgot he probably was around when porngraph ripped off millions.

So he probably made a ton then, if he was 1/3rd owner he might have made 15-20mil from that alone and possibly another 5-10 from nats? Still doesn't account for 100mil but it's closer to 50%.
But John said that he had nothing to do with porn graph, he had sold the domain to someone else that they used it for spyware. :winkwink:

I think your numbers are really high. I doubt Nats was worth 15-30 million back at the end of 2006. :error

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17847275)
Yes I would still post here, just like all you guys saying they won't.
watch me. if it happens I will be the only one probably.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThumbLord (Post 17847433)
As long as you make money through this board you will stay and use it as usual.
On the other hand if you come here only for entertainment there are other boards.
Maybe 5 to 10 people maximum, will actually "leave" this board.
Although I hate everything Manwin does to this Industry and if they will be the new owners I will keep on visiting this board.
And so will YOU.
I am glad I have my own little board to worry about. :thumbsup
ICQ me your board name, if this happens I will need a new place to waste some time each day. You right though, my income is dependent ZERO on whether I post here or not, hell it probably goes up if I don't post here. It's not like there is new people getting involved in this industry. Everyone already knows who I am and how to get in touch with me if they need me. I don't need to post for any other reason then to kill some time and I can do that anywhere, easy decision for me.

I'd think about starting my own but seems like a waste of time these days, not like there are a ton of companies out there looking to spend advertising dollars.

will76 01-15-2011 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17847240)
Fabe hunni don't get mad at DWB and the other petty detractors of your greatness. They just aren't used to decorum in the presence of power.

Fly above the fray sweetie and don't ever let it show that the scurrilous gossip hounds can ruffle your feathers.

Now relax becuse Slutboat is here to help you with PR and keep you from going down that awful road of snipe and tit for tat that all of us are so guilty of. All I ask is that you please buy this raggety shithole of a website and let ol Slutboat ban the Demon and a few other conservative lunatics...if you can do this for me darling I promise to give you a nice warm goat milk enema tonight that you like so much.
you are one of the biggest idiots on here.

I think this picture sums up your post pretty well.


http://gaysucking.xlogz.com/files/20...OB_SQUAD-8.jpg

garce 01-15-2011 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17847167)
Fabulous Fabian has said in his own words he delegates to only 2 people: CEO Manwin North America and CEO Manwin Europe. You think those execs need a "front man" to claim that they are underlings?

And Ms Crash I think you just showed that this discussion is a little above your pay grade hun don't you have bread baking?
This discussion is above all of our pay grades, Smithers. Its as far out of your league as it is out of mine and ShellyCrash's.

You have your tongue so far up Nathan's ass that you must be thankful you're communicating through a keyboard. Otherwise, the only sounds you'd be able to vocalize right now are "numa numa numa" and "yum yum yum" as your tongue wriggles around deep inside that tasty bunghole.

Must be humiliating tongue fucking another man while he's trying to watch TV with his kids, btw.

fris 01-15-2011 06:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847068)
theking,

there is no benefit of me stating anything more than I am already stating... The term "Managing Partner" comes as a lose translation of "Geschäftsführender Gesellschafter" which is a german term for a company owner that is also managing the day to day of the company. Because there are plenty of people that own a company and employ a CEO. (As I do for Manwin Canada and my european business). That people somehow associate with the term "Managing Partner" that there must be other "non-managing" partners to me is just funny and shows how little people know about true business. I am not going to change my title just because someone on GFY builds a conspiracy theory around it...

Regarding the money comments, I am not here to teach anyone how to invest and make money. People need to learn how deals like this work.
westjet employees are also company owners too.

epitome 01-15-2011 07:20 PM
Someone hit on it earlier in this thread ... even if Fabian were only a front man as many claim, such a position comes with huge perks.

I therefore nominate myself to be the front man's front man. Wouldn't I then get half as many perks as he does?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-15-2011 07:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17847128)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17847156)
He looks like a dirty Arab, who is it?
Here is another picture of him:

http://msmvps.com/cfs-filesystemfile...0_41DDC617.png

Quote:
Jain Shaileshkumar (born February 10, 1970), better known as Sam Jain, is an internet entrepreneur and former CEO of affiliate marketing network eFront.

In 2000, eFront submitted fraudulent data to Media Metrix, a website ranking publisher. Former President of eFront Jerry Ziegler accused Jain of deliberately falsifying affiliate data, using tactics such as submitting companies which didn't respond to his affiliate offer as affiliates with the justification that "[i]f they won't respond to me, they won't respond to anyone."

In 2001 Jain was involved in a scandal when ICQ instant messaging logs between him and other employees were leaked onto the internet. The logs detailed activities such as not paying websites that had hosted their banner ads and sending legal threats to websites that spoke poorly of eFront.

On April 20, 2005 he was ordered to pay $3.1 million to Symantec for selling counterfeit software and violating intellectual property laws. Case Number 2:04-cv-03017-PA-Mc.

Bench warrant for Sam Jain's arrest entered into court records in California on February 11, 2009.

Jain additionally has a criminal case pending in California resulting from his selling of counterfeit Symantec software. The criminal case was opened in 2008 (Case Number 5:08-cr-00197-RMW) in which the Grand Jury charges: Criminal Copyright Infringement, Wire Fraud, Trafficking in Counterfeit Goods & Mail Fraud. This case is to go to Jury trial. Jain pleaded not guilty.

Jain operated several Internet-based companies including Discount Bob, Shifting Currents Financials, Inc., Innovative Marketing, Inc., Professional Management Consulting Inc., Shopenter.com, LLC.

In December 2008, Jain was listed as a defendant in the Federal Trade Commission's case against so-called "Scareware" applications such as WinFixer. The case alleges that several companies scammed consumers into buying these applications through malware and banner ads.

In mid-December 2008 US District Judge, Richard D. Bennett, fined Innovative Marketing $8000 US for each day that it continues to sell bogus scareware software on its website.

On January 26, 2009, a stay was removed for a bench warrant initially issued for Jain's arrest on January 12, 2009 by United States District Judge Ronald M. Whyte. The bench warrant was entered into court records on February 11, 2009.

Jain is officially a fugitive from justice in the United States.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17847209)
http://www.interpol.int/Public/Data/...7/54525357.jpg

I just thought the picture was funny, like this one too.
Oh look! Bjorn Daniel Sundin...so what could these two internet criminals possibly have to do with a thread about Manwin and Fabian Thylmann? :winkwink:

ADG

ladida 01-15-2011 08:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 17847416)
Wait a second. You have to have 150 million upfront cash to buy a 150 million dollar company? Interesting
Finally :)

Dodododa 01-15-2011 08:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17847046)
Ok "managing partner" errr front guy. I took the 5 mins to use GFY search. This is what I found:

Nathan/Fabian leaves Too Much Media / NATS 12-8-2006

So what, you got 1/3 of a share and bought out then released an affiliate program on 2-27-2007 Nathan (formerly with TMM/NATS) releases new Amateur Flash Portal!

To 7-16-2010 Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers

So you want people to believe you went from being a part owner (1/3) of Nats that ended in Dec 2006 to starting your own affiliate program in 2007 to just 3 years later buying 100 million dollar companies.... and that you are not just a front man... :1orglaugh
He sold his one third share of a multimillion dollar company, then started a tube network which attracted over 8 million users per day. Why is it hard to believe that he could raise that much capitol?

Why would someone with millions of dollars already get in bed with the mafia? It doesn't take that much money to start a tube site. He just built it at the right time, he was one of the first to build an easy way to rip content.

GonZo 01-15-2011 08:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17846860)
Not fucking over customers, affiliates, or more than a decade's worth of other bullshit that has went on in this industry.

My bad.
:upsidedow
Thats been going on for longer than a decade.

GonZo 01-15-2011 08:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17847648)

Oh look! Bjorn Daniel Sundin...so what could these two internet criminals possibly have to do with a thread about Manwin and Fabian Thylmann? :winkwink:

ADG
SUDDEN and his cool make your CD drawer pop out program so he could sell you virus software. Another top notch stand up guy!
Looks like he got a shitty squint eye to match Hoopers flopear.

GonZo 01-15-2011 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 17847306)
Will76

I think you forgot he probably was around when porngraph ripped off millions.

So he probably made a ton then, if he was 1/3rd owner he might have made 15-20mil from that alone and possibly another 5-10 from nats? Still doesn't account for 100mil but it's closer to 50%.
Porngraph launch hoopers fucking toolbar business too!

Alprazolam 01-15-2011 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17847648)

Oh look! Bjorn Daniel Sundin...so what could these two internet criminals possibly have to do with a thread about Manwin and Fabian Thylmann? :winkwink:

ADG
I just google that man Bjornie and saw this for 100 million billion dollars. :xomunch

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05..._scam_charges/

tonyparra 01-15-2011 08:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17846914)
One day someone will release details about the past 4 years and everyone thinking of conspiracy theories here and elsewhere about me and Manwin will feel utterly stupid and realize that they really had no clue about M&A transactions, the power of understanding business and financing and the importance of having good advisors, both legally and financially.

Regarding the secret service stuff, maybe the reason I bought Mansef assets regardless is: 1) I bought assets, not Mansef itself, and 2) I know more about the secret service seizure than is publically available knowledge? Maybe, just MAYBE in a deal of this size, I would have looked at the exact circumstances to the seizure, the reasoning to it?

All you conspiracy people think too small, you think no-risk, you will never get anywhere big in this industry...

To each their own...
Can i have a job?

tonyparra 01-15-2011 09:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847187)
DWB, this is another thing I do not get... even if you do not believe that I am really in charge, why would you keep discrediting yourself and claiming I am not, calling me a liar and basically making sure that I will never ever respect you because of the crap you write... Why would you not at least try to see if I am actually in charge and use it to your benefit? Even if there is just a 1% chance in your eyes, it still seems much more beneficial to you to use that than to completely making a fool out of yourself...

Anyway, I do not know where the rule is that states that a business owner of the size of my business is not allowed to have fun on GFY and why anyone thinks they can judge what I am supposed to do or not...

You guys do not know me, if any of you commenting this way would, I would maybe accept, but considering that the people posting the crap here do not know me at all and do not even want to try to find out how I am personally.. well.. makes me sad in a way...
I need a job Nathan, give back to the community like the athletes do :upsidedow

jonnydoe 01-15-2011 09:04 PM
So if being a partner in german means that you have no partners... What would a corporation be? A sole-proprietorship? What was the topic of this thread?

So what is the next move for Man___? You're oversaturated.

GonZo 01-15-2011 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17847721)
I just google that man Bjornie and saw this for 100 million billion dollars. :xomunch

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05..._scam_charges/
It did cool things like make your cd drawer pop out too!

will76 01-15-2011 09:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17847642)
Someone hit on it earlier in this thread ... even if Fabian were only a front man as many claim, such a position comes with huge perks.

I therefore nominate myself to be the front man's front man. Wouldn't I then get half as many perks as he does?
Slutboat has already secured the job of Nathan's dick sucker.

will76 01-15-2011 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodododa (Post 17847694)
He sold his one third share of a multimillion dollar company, then started a tube network which attracted over 8 million users per day. Why is it hard to believe that he could raise that much capitol?

Why would someone with millions of dollars already get in bed with the mafia? It doesn't take that much money to start a tube site. He just built it at the right time, he was one of the first to build an easy way to rip content.
wow so he got what a couple million at most out of nats.

Which tube site network did he start? What are the domains ?

I am not suggesting he got in bed with the Russian Mafia, I don't know who he is the front man for.

topnotch, standup guy 01-15-2011 09:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by garce (Post 17847537)
This discussion is above all of our pay grades, Smithers. Its as far out of your league as it is out of mine and ShellyCrash's.

You have your tongue so far up Nathan's ass that you must be thankful you're communicating through a keyboard. Otherwise, the only sounds you'd be able to vocalize right now are "numa numa numa" and "yum yum yum" as your tongue wriggles around deep inside that tasty bunghole.

Must be humiliating tongue fucking another man while he's trying to watch TV with his kids, btw.
Slutboat was doing the same thing in Lightspeed's dead model thread until he finally realized that he had hitched his tongue onto the wrong asshole.
.

jonnydoe 01-15-2011 10:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17847275)
Yes I would still post here, just like all you guys saying they won't.
Is that Pit on your avatar?

Slutboat 01-16-2011 12:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17847534)
you are one of the biggest idiots on here.

I think this picture sums up your post pretty well.


http://gaysucking.xlogz.com/files/20...OB_SQUAD-8.jpg
Dear Will76
Im sorry you didn't see that my comments were just a set up for the offer of a goat milk enema joke...You have been so bitter toward me since our painful break up. I just needed some space and I felt suffocated. You were the coolest guy I have ever buttfucked and I will never forget you...You taught me things about man love that I didn't know existed in my wildest fantasies. The way you loved to lick your shit off my dick after I ream your cute butthole... like a child with a chocolate popsicle your eagerness for dirty shit stained cock knows no bounds. I'm sorry I left you for Garce but he pays me to suck my cock. I know you only posted the pic of you sucking my schlong to hurt dear sweet Garce and that must have been very painful for him but and I couldn't resist his sweet ass because it's tighter than yours, plus his Baddog avatar is cooler than yours and he swallows my load and you never did. Anyway no hard feelings I hope you find man love again soon.

Yours truly

Slutboat



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digitaldivas 01-16-2011 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ladida (Post 17847681)
Finally :)
tell 'em whats up pipecrew! ...respect :2 cents:

Roald 01-16-2011 02:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 17847416)
Wait a second. You have to have 150 million upfront cash to buy a 150 million dollar company? Interesting
Lol, no shit huh.

Surprised no one mentions this, specially with all the program buying hahaha did/does.

Nathan 01-16-2011 04:09 AM
I try to not confuse the kids... That's why I say things like "understanding financing" or "financial advisors" and know the people with a clue will understand... And see, they did!

Paul Markham 01-16-2011 04:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17846574)
maybe cams or dating,
That's nothing new. For the Adult Internet to survive and continue to make money the old offline porn industry USED to make it will take far more than buying up existing companies or starting new ones based on old models.

Dating could go free supported by mainstream ads and cams is a smaller market than mainstream porn industry.

I may be 60 but I'm looking forward a lot more than most.

Paul Markham 01-16-2011 04:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17846628)
Nothing against will or any others, but:

Its amazing how many people still deal with "others" that do almost similar things. But then, its considered "normal".

I mean, theres brokers happy enough to buy, sell, and resell traffic from illegal tubes.
Theres a HUGE amount of people buying ads on sites promoting or spreading illegal content and full site rips. Im seeing popunders of a huge company on EVERY tradesite i can find, most of them also hosting, or linking to full lenght videos with copyrights.
How many webmasters are sending programs with illegal content their traffic, because they get a buck more then with someone else?

It seems that nobody cares when it comes to a point to make a decision: If there is money to be made, nobody will pass on the oppurtunity.

Again, not directed at anyone.. just my 2 cents. People will always be around to make money, no matter what. Thats the adult entertainment we made.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17846860)
You mean like.....

1. Pre-Checked Cross Sales?
2. Banging Credit Cards?
3. Selling Customer Data?
4. Fucking Over Affiliates?
5. Merchant Account/MID Bouncing Scams?
6. Financing Hollywood Movies with Client's Funds?
7. Installing Scumware
8. Shaving

Oh right. We were talking about ONLY Brazzer's in this discussion. Not fucking over customers, affiliates, or more than a decade's worth of other bullshit that has went on in this industry.

My bad.
:upsidedow
I embolden the only one that effected affiliates. If you're ripping off surfers to pay affiliates no one cares. Until surfers get the message. MY CC IS SAFEST IN MY POCKET. Then everyone starts to scream blue murder.

Paul Markham 01-16-2011 04:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17847080)
Anytime Ive dealt with a managing partner there were always other partners. If they were just the owner then they wouldnt need the term partner attached to it. They would be just owner.
As someone who has been in a legal partnership, you can be a partner with 1% of the shares or even 0% of the shares.

As someone who has managed people for decades on and off. You don't have time to post on GFY, you don't delegate the management of a company that large to 2 people, one in the US and one in EU. Which Fabian says he did. You end up taking work home with you.

I asked a perfectly legitimate question a few weeks age. "How big is Manwin?" No one came up with anything solid. A lot of Manwin ass kissers flamed me, some emailed me with nothing provable and trolls flamed me. Now we have a 4 page thread, that still has nothing solid. So far I'm only on page 2. :1orglaugh

Nathan 01-16-2011 04:43 AM
Paul, go visit the office in Montreal: 7777 boul decarie. Looking at google maps images shot on the weekend is a useless proof. The people replying to you saying they been there and it's big, you do not believe... So the only way to prove anything to you is for you to visit the office... Not that I cared much, or I would invite you...

Looking forward to the next few years with you continuously thinking we are small and I do not own anything just because you sucked at your management job yourself :)

Lamis 01-16-2011 04:45 AM
nope..

Do they own GFY YET??

When will we know?

Of course stupid spammer like BareFootsies are alrady sucking some dicks, just in case..

That barefootsies Christy makes me puke, really.. What an idiot.

theking 01-16-2011 04:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17848086)
Paul, go visit the office in Montreal: 7777 boul decarie. Looking at google maps images shot on the weekend is a useless proof. The people replying to you saying they been there and it's big, you do not believe... So the only way to prove anything to you is for you to visit the office... Not that I cared much, or I would invite you...

Looking forward to the next few years with you continuously thinking we are small and I do not own anything just because you sucked at your management job yourself :)
Didn't you post that there are 325 employees there and more than 500 when you include the overseas employees?

Paul Markham 01-16-2011 05:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17848086)
Paul, go visit the office in Montreal: 7777 boul decarie. Looking at google maps images shot on the weekend is a useless proof. The people replying to you saying they been there and it's big, you do not believe... So the only way to prove anything to you is for you to visit the office... Not that I cared much, or I would invite you...

Looking forward to the next few years with you continuously thinking we are small and I do not own anything just because you sucked at your management job yourself :)
The only people who said they visited you were supporters, which is acceptable as they would be the only people you would allow in. But no one has stood in your reception and posted you're the size you say you are.

However I still question how big are you?

You say you're big, yet there's no evidence. It's hidden. You say you're the owner yet there's no evidence and your replies to my emails didn't give me that impression. You say the picture was taken at the weekend, do you have evidence it was. You say there's 300 employees in that office, yet there's a sign outside saying there office space for rent. 300 employees take a lot of office space. Do you know how much?

There's a very simple answer, show us a picture of you standing in the Manwin office with the 300 or some of them at their desks behind you. Or better still video it so we can see you walk from the reception to the working offices.

Perception is everything in this business as we rarely meet each other except at shows and that's no real guide.

The perception I get is Manwin is a company with much to hide, from it's domain management to it's office address. Even you don't come across as a person who runs a company with 300 employees. Your knowledge of the porn industry is crap and you prove it over and over again.

I come across via my content production over the last 10 years, 2,500+ scenes not to companies like yours paying peanuts but companies paying proper prices. You come over as someone who says a lot and shows nothing. You can't even be straight about your own TOS on deleting pirated content.


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