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signupdamnit 01-15-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17847075)
I understand and agree that there is not any benefit to you...what I do not understand is why you respond to me or anyone else on this board.

That's one thing I have to give him credit for. He responds and he's usually respectful when doing so.

theking 01-15-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847078)
theking, saturday evening, nothing better to do... it's fun... sometimes..

you will notice that 99% of my posts are done on the weekends or holidays.

I have noticed and in a sense you post for much the same reason I do. I am retired and I post just to occupy some of my time and yes it is fun...sometimes.

Nathan 01-15-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17847080)
Anytime Ive dealt with a managing partner there were always other partners. If they were just the owner then they wouldnt need the term partner attached to it. They would be just owner.

Which COMPLETELY proves that I am not the owner, obviously...

This is the part I do not get really, I am supposedly this spin-doctor who does PR work only and is tricking everyone into thinking that I own the company.. but I am too stupid to change my title to "Owner" and therefor OBVIOUSLY I am not the owner...

The logic of some people...

DWB 01-15-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17846914)
One day someone will release details about the past 4 years and everyone thinking of conspiracy theories here and elsewhere about me and Manwin will feel utterly stupid and realize that they really had no clue about M&A transactions, the power of understanding business and financing and the importance of having good advisors, both legally and financially.

Regarding the secret service stuff, maybe the reason I bought Mansef assets regardless is: 1) I bought assets, not Mansef itself, and 2) I know more about the secret service seizure than is publically available knowledge? Maybe, just MAYBE in a deal of this size, I would have looked at the exact circumstances to the seizure, the reasoning to it?

All you conspiracy people think too small, you think no-risk, you will never get anywhere big in this industry...

Nathan, the fact that you even waste your time trying to defend your position and acquisitions on GFY of all places, tells me you are not the person you claim to be.

Someone who is really in your position would not bother with this nonsense for a minute. Why would you? For fun? Please. There are a million other things you can be doing for fun, GFY is not one of them. If it was for fun, you'd reply with photos of ******* or your nuts on an iPad with your stats under it. That is how someone in your position would post for fun. But trying to defend your position to GFY over and over and over again... really? Come on man.

They picked the right man for the job though. You keep everyone busy enough so their eye doesn't stay on the ball. You're very good at that. Whatever Russian mob boss tells you how high to jump, he should give you a raise. :2 cents:

roly 01-15-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17846905)
You mean like torrents? Rapidshare? Sharing forums? TGPS? YouTube? Google images?

Among others right?
:upsidedow

none of those are anything like porn tube sites, tubesites = instant gratification unlike torrents etc, tgps showed image galleries, mgp's only showed teaser clips and youtube doesn't allow porn.

porn tubes give it away, so why would people buy it?

Alprazolam 01-15-2011 12:44 PM

http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img...14/93316_1.jpg
this guy cracks me up

DWB 01-15-2011 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 17846929)
It's not typical for sure, but possible, look at Bill Gates or the facebook guy, both programmers that made some smart business moves and are now worth Billions...

OK, but I don't think NATS had the same success has Microsoft of Facebook. Did they? :upsidedow


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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17847009)
How much money did you have in 2000 ? My memory is a little bad but weren't you working for John Albright not too long ago???

So you really want everyone to believe you have made 100's of millions of dollars and are the sole owner of manwin?

How much are you worth now?

Will76, totally off topic... do you know what year/month NATS had that big security breach?

Slutboat 01-15-2011 12:50 PM

This is cracking me up. You guys really don't realize you are talking to the most powerful man in porn? Yes above Flynt and Hef and the rest...

Even if he is a minority partner he is obviously the one at the reins. It doesn't take much digging to see that Fab Fabe is the big cheese so the question is what are we going to do with the fact that we have a freindly audience with the head honcho and he enjoys getting his feet muddy with us degenerates on his weekends...

Fabe I'm pretty bummed to hear you have kids I was hoping I was going to man the cocaine and the island and the elegant cars.

signupdamnit 01-15-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17847135)
This is cracking me up. You guys really don't realize you are talking to the most powerful man in porn? Yes above Flynt and Hef and the rest...

Even if he is a minority partner he is obviously the one at the reins. It doesn't take much digging to see that Fab Fabe is the big cheese so the question is what are we going to do with the fact that we have a freindly audience with the head honcho and he enjoys getting his feet muddy with us degenerates on his weekends...

Fabe I'm pretty bummed to hear you have kids I was hoping I was going to man the cocaine and the island and the elegant cars.

I believe many of us are hoping that if he's really in charge he will clean up some of his online properties. He's spoken of doing this and has perhaps made some changes already, but I think many of us would like more things changed ASAP.

Barefootsies 01-15-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by roly (Post 17847126)
none of those are anything like porn tube sites, tubesites = instant gratification


The subject matter, or frame of reference, was Brazzers/FREE PORN/content.

Not instant gratification porn.

:2 cents:

ShellyCrash 01-15-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847068)
theThat people somehow associate with the term "Managing Partner" that there must be other "non-managing" partners to me is just funny and shows how little people know about true business.

For someone who claims to know so much about true business it's very shocking that you don't know the definition of "Managing Partner". You may want to look it up, since it's your chosen job title. :2 cents:

DWB 01-15-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17847128)

He looks like a dirty Arab, who is it?

12clicks 01-15-2011 01:12 PM

It will be fun bumping this thread in a month or two and asking all these big talkers why they're still posting here.:1orglaugh

papill0n 01-15-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17846897)
Sorry princess. I do not think I made mention of your apparent homosexual obsession.

Next.
:pimp

fuck off faggot

you are the limp wristed bitch who refers to people as 'toots'

christ youre a fucking loser

Slutboat 01-15-2011 01:17 PM

Fabulous Fabian has said in his own words he delegates to only 2 people: CEO Manwin North America and CEO Manwin Europe. You think those execs need a "front man" to claim that they are underlings?

And Ms Crash I think you just showed that this discussion is a little above your pay grade hun don't you have bread baking?

Nathan 01-15-2011 01:31 PM

DWB, this is another thing I do not get... even if you do not believe that I am really in charge, why would you keep discrediting yourself and claiming I am not, calling me a liar and basically making sure that I will never ever respect you because of the crap you write... Why would you not at least try to see if I am actually in charge and use it to your benefit? Even if there is just a 1% chance in your eyes, it still seems much more beneficial to you to use that than to completely making a fool out of yourself...

Anyway, I do not know where the rule is that states that a business owner of the size of my business is not allowed to have fun on GFY and why anyone thinks they can judge what I am supposed to do or not...

You guys do not know me, if any of you commenting this way would, I would maybe accept, but considering that the people posting the crap here do not know me at all and do not even want to try to find out how I am personally.. well.. makes me sad in a way...

signupdamnit 01-15-2011 01:32 PM

I think one thing is clear. Manwin has made many enemies already with the piracy. For every one person who posts about it here there 100 to 1,000 more in the business who feel the same but aren't being vocal about it. It's not a popularity contest but I think it's likely that it will catch up with them.

Barefootsies 01-15-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 17847166)
fuck off faggot

you are the limp wristed bitch who refers to people as 'toots'

christ youre a fucking loser


:2 cents:

Nathan 01-15-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17847191)
I think one thing is clear. Manwin has made many enemies already with the piracy. For every one person who posts about it here there 100 to 1,000 more in the business who feel the same but aren't being vocal about it. It's not a popularity contest but I think it's likely that it will catch up with them.

Then again, thousands of people work with us every day... I just can not imagine we lose out on so many as you seem to think...

signupdamnit 01-15-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847187)

You guys do not know me, if any of you commenting this way would, I would maybe accept, but considering that the people posting the crap here do not know me at all and do not even want to try to find out how I am personally.. well.. makes me sad in a way...

You may not be that bad of a guy but if you represent a company which is helping to destroy much of the industry you should expect many of us to give you some hell every now and then.

Nathan 01-15-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17847199)
You may not be that bad of a guy but if you represent a company which is helping to destroy much of the industry you should expect many of us to give you some hell every now and then.

I do not mind any of that, the only thing I object to is that we "destroy much of the industry" ... but oh well, we'll see how that goes over the next 5 years I guess, we really should discuss all this again in a few years...

will76 01-15-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17847133)
OK, but I don't think NATS had the same success has Microsoft of Facebook. Did they? :upsidedow




Will76, totally off topic... do you know what year/month NATS had that big security breach?

95% sure it was the end of 2007, maybe Nov/Dec of 2007. I got banned in early 2008 for pissing off John for asking him for an update, if they had caught the person(s) responsible for it.

Well I was also pissing him off because I didn't trust Segpay because of the ex ibill people who were involved with it. Also because he was suppose to make a donation and never did.

signupdamnit 01-15-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847198)
Then again, thousands of people work with us every day... I just can not imagine we lose out on so many as you seem to think...

A thread was posted here on GFY a few days ago asking about Brazzers conversions. I recall over a dozen people replied that they had bad conversions with you. You tend not to have a very good reputation with affiliates even without factoring in the piracy. My theory is that the bad reputation with affiliates probably in part pushed you to invest in tubes in the first place.

I also think you kept your ownership of Webcams.com quiet for as long as you did in part due to that reputation.

Alprazolam 01-15-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17847156)
He looks like a dirty Arab, who is it?

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Data/...7/54525357.jpg

I just thought the picture was funny, like this one too.

Nathan 01-15-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17847208)
A thread was posted here on GFY a few days ago asking about Brazzers conversions. I recall over a dozen people replied that they had bad conversions with you. You tend not to have a very good reputation with affiliates even without factoring in the piracy. My theory is that the bad reputation with affiliates probably in part pushed you to invest in tubes in the first place.

We have plenty of affiliates that have no need in posting on GFY...

will76 01-15-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17847046)
Ok "managing partner" errr front guy. I took the 5 mins to use GFY search. This is what I found:

Nathan/Fabian leaves Too Much Media / NATS 12-8-2006

So what, you got 1/3 of a share and bought out then released an affiliate program on 2-27-2007 Nathan (formerly with TMM/NATS) releases new Amateur Flash Portal!

To 7-16-2010 Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers

So you want people to believe you went from being a part owner (1/3) of Nats that ended in Dec 2006 to starting your own affiliate program in 2007 to just 3 years later buying 100 million dollar companies.... and that you are not just a front man... :1orglaugh

I like how this post conveniently got skipped over.

btw "managing partner" means you run the day to day operations. It doesn't mean you make the big decisions. Also, "partner" could be a 1% ownership. I highly doubt you own much of the company, more than a token couple %'s. And no one who has 100's of millions of dollars invested in something like this is going to be silent and let you make all of the decisions with their money.

Nathan 01-15-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17847208)
I also think you kept your ownership of Webcams.com quiet for as long as you did in part due to that reputation.

I did not keep it quite, webcams.com was not managed by Manwin Canada at first, it is currently being transitioned to the Manwin Canada team...

signupdamnit 01-15-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847214)
I did not keep it quite, webcams.com was not managed by Manwin Canada at first, it is currently being transitioned to the Manwin Canada team...

You guys didn't buy it in early-mid 2010?

SomeCreep 01-15-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17846280)
If manwin comes to own GFY one way or the other, would you continue to post here ?

Jeah. Cuz i dunt giv-a-fuuuuuuuuuuck

Nathan 01-15-2011 01:48 PM

will76, the great thing about all of this is, I have no need to prove anything to you, I have no need to show you how I made my money... revealing too many secrets of how certain transactions work, is also counter-productive for me...

ShellyCrash 01-15-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17847167)
Fabulous Fabian has said in his own words he delegates to only 2 people: CEO Manwin North America and CEO Manwin Europe. You think those execs need a "front man" to claim that they are underlings?

And Ms Crash I think you just showed that this discussion is a little above your pay grade hun don't you have bread baking?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...rash/ellis.jpg

will76 01-15-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847219)
will76, the great thing about all of this is, I have no need to prove anything to you, I have no need to show you how I made my money... revealing too many secrets of how certain transactions work, is also counter-productive for me...

if you are who you say you are and did what you claimed you did (go from a 33% part owner of Nats to buying 100 million dollar companies with your own money in just 3 years time) then you would have already climbed the ladder and no one would be able to duplicate what you did. You would have nothing to lose.

You don't want to substantiate it because you can't or if you did manage to do it then you probably don't want to share "how" because to accumulate that much money in that short period of time would likely involve something that would be self incriminating if you mentioned it in public.

Your big deal in 2007 was starting your own affiliate program. Then less than 3 years later you buying Brazzers and Pornhub and all of their properties, sole owner, hundreds of millions of dollars.... buying webcams.com and how knows what else... mmmm sure, we believe you. :warning


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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 11978418)
I'm proud to finally release my new project to everyone on GFY!
ForAmateursOnly
My biz partner in europe and I have been testing the system for the past few months and the initial results are great! Together with Duke from DukeDollars we have now deceided that the correct next step is to release it in the US for an open beta!

Duke has always been a great friend of mine since the early days of NATS, and really understands how the business works, so I asked him if he would like to step on board as a partner in this venture. We are all excited to see months of hard work finally come to fruition. We are sure ForAmateursOnly will make everyone who promotes it satisfied beyond their expectations.

The site's idea is easy but effective. REAL AMATEURS (girls, guys and couples) register with us and upload their own content to our site. Surfers buy that content set by set and our amateurs get a percentage of what they spend. This results in more extreme and higher quality content compared to other amateur sites.

The site is totally Web 2.0, with RSS feeds for every single page, tags and streaming FLASH video! We are currently finishing our special video player which will allow surfers to download the videos.
Paying up to 35%! (with rebill rates similar to livecam sites!)
5% Webmaster Referral
5% AMATEUR REFERRAL
Our system is SKINABLE! So we can customize it to your own design if wanted!

On top of simple skins we can setup a portal you can integrate in your own partnership program! Instant new site for your resellers to promote and you make extra $$ without any expenses!

We are currently offering RSS Feeds, Dynamic HTML Content IFrames, and a XML Data dump to use for promotions of our site.
Banners, Geo-Targeted Banners, Geo-Targeted Text Links and of course FHGs specially created by our amateurs will follow soon!

You can find our partnership program at http://faocash.com

Any questions, contact me on ICQ 1889711 or Skype fthylmann.

Feedback is always welcome!


Slutboat 01-15-2011 01:57 PM

Fabe hunni don't get mad at DWB and the other petty detractors of your greatness. They just aren't used to decorum in the presence of power.

Fly above the fray sweetie and don't ever let it show that the scurrilous gossip hounds can ruffle your feathers.

Now relax becuse Slutboat is here to help you with PR and keep you from going down that awful road of snipe and tit for tat that all of us are so guilty of. All I ask is that you please buy this raggety shithole of a website and let ol Slutboat ban the Demon and a few other conservative lunatics...if you can do this for me darling I promise to give you a nice warm goat milk enema tonight that you like so much.

Nathan 01-15-2011 01:59 PM

will76, or giving details would break confidentiality agreements about detailed deal terms which I can not break...

will76, anyone today can still do what I did, you just need to know how...

There is plenty of things that I would still love to buy that I can not right now... my funds are not limitless, if they came from stuff like the russian mob, I would be buying much much more.. the russian mob has a LOT of cash...

Nathan 01-15-2011 01:59 PM

slutboat, you crack me up :)

Roald 01-15-2011 02:12 PM

Yes I would still post here, just like all you guys saying they won't.

Slutboat 01-15-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17847251)
slutboat, you crack me up :)

so it's a no to my goat milk enema offer? Ok... But in all seriousness let these guys have their illusions about you... take it from me there is value in being underestimated.

Nathan 01-15-2011 02:25 PM

slutboat.. I agree...

KillerK 01-15-2011 02:26 PM

Will76

I think you forgot he probably was around when porngraph ripped off millions.

So he probably made a ton then, if he was 1/3rd owner he might have made 15-20mil from that alone and possibly another 5-10 from nats? Still doesn't account for 100mil but it's closer to 50%.

lazycash 01-15-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17847083)
While forums are a serious issue, the others are not.

A torrent user is a certain type of user, you're not going to convert those guys. They don't pay for anything.




Fucking Christ, here we go again. I will say this one last time because I like you.

1) I was under contract with them BEFORE anything bad about them ever came out. I had no idea what they were doing or what was about to happen.

2) I said all along that I did not have a problem with cross sales so long as they were somewhere visible on the page. Just the same as I don't have a problem with fine print when you sign any other contract. If you refuse to read it, that is your problem. Not mine.

3) I also said all along that until I see the wrong doing with my own eyes, I would not follow the mob without proof.

4) I used my OWN credit card THREE TIMES and TWO MORE TIMES with a card not in my name and guess what... to date NOT A SINGLE CHARGE other than the original sign up charge.

5) During the time of my contract, towards the end of it, I did find out about them doing other shady things and it has nothing to do with anything you think it does. Then as soon as my contract was up, I would not renew it and DMCA'd the entire site I had with them and to date it is still offline. I severed all ties and to date have not spoken to any of them.

6) As I said, I do not follow a mob. I am not a lemming. I am my own man who makes my own decisions based on FACTS. Not hearsay, not mob rule, not on what will make me popular, but on real facts that I see for myself. Until I saw what I needed to see, I had no choice but to think otherwise. I know some companies who will set out to destroy others in this very manner, by bad PR. I'm not falling for that and it is a shame so many of you do.

7) Still, where is the proof of a card being banged and prove to me it was banged and they didn't just miss a cross sale. Prove it. I said it back then and NOT ONE PERSON did it, and that was to screen record the entire sign up and cancel process for everyone to see. Record it all. Then when extra charges came, everyone could see it who's fault it was. Did anyone do it? No. They just cried and said their card was banged. Yet mine never was, and I'd love to sit here right now and tell you they banged the hell out of it, but I can't. So you have to wonder about those who joined and those making posts and what their motive was. "Proof" is not a credit card statement. Proof would have been a recorded sign up and cancel. No one ever did it, even after I begged them to do it so they could show me that I was in the wrong. Why do you think that is?

8) Glenn is still part of I$, don't let anyone tell you different. The dumb fucks never terminated my sever account with them and until just recently I had access to EVERYTHING they were working on and Glenn still had to approve everything while in Colombia. They have a folder just for him and everything goes through it along with notes and everything else. You would not believe the shit they kept on their servers. Idiots.

9) I've done deals with shady people before and I'm sure I will again. Everyone has. It's impossible to work in this business and not deal with someone shady at some point. Shit runs downhill and EVERYONE is connected to dirt bags and is doing business with them in one way or another.

So please, go fuck yourself. You have no idea what the circumstances were. And to date, I still have never been banged by them. :2 cents: But if you dumb asses could have see past those god forsaken cross sales so many of you lost sleep over, you may have stumbled onto something much, much worse. But the mob can never see past the first idiot leading the group, so I guess I can't blame any of you for being short sided.

So now I'm a hypocrite because I did some content deals with people who ended up later on being crooks while I bust Manwin's balls for stealing my content and profiting from it? :1orglaugh So be it. A hypocrite I am then. That's a hell of a lot better than a lemming and not being able to find out the truth on my own.

You know... you could all mob up in typical idiot GFY fashion and blame all of the tubes and everything else shitty on me. You could base it all on things I said about I$ in the past. I would expect nothing less from you ass hats.

Ugh, no need to rehash all of this, I get it, you think we're all lemmings, ass hats and dumb asses. You seemed to skip over the obvious, they failed to pay dozens of affiliates and ignored any email complaints, not after, but while you were under contract with them. After more than 20 threads about this, all we kept hearing from you and Robbie was, "hey, they are paying me", must be a problem with you guys.

Who knows for sure on the card banging allegations, your test was worthless as it seemed it all came to a quick halt once they were first accused. The soloconverts charges that mysteriously started appearing on people's cards were not part of the original cross sales and it made more sense once it was revealed I$ was in bed with them.

Anyway, forget I$, I too share the same concerns as you about Manwin. I just think we're going to have to wait to see how it all plays out as it appears we're not going to get the answers we're looking for from Fabian.


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