phogirl69

This is so long so I'm just going to copy and paste it from my post in another thread that did not get enough responses.

There's this guy that I am talking to, he is my best friend's brother, and he lost his virginity at the age of 24. He claims that the combination of not having sex till such an old age, too much maturbation and extreme weight lifting is causing him to DIE. He says that it somehow caused his blood to not diffuse properly, and a bunch of other stuff I have to admit I don't really understand. He gets all of his medical info from this site http://www.actionlove.com He even orders medicine and pills from this site and claims it's somewhat helping to reverse the damage already done,

Please have a look at that site and read some of it and tell me what you think. http://www.actionlove.com
To me it's just all bullshit and that guy is not a real doctor. But this guy claims that this is the only man who understands what he is going through.

He claims that his "penis is broken", and that he "can't get it up", and he can't ejaculate anymore. He is constantly tired and has severe headaches, and as a result of this he even dropped out of college completely. He already spent over 1k on brain scans, and tests, but the doctors can't find anything wrong with him. He claims western medicine doesn't work, and he only believes in Chinese medicine and this crazy Dr Lin from http://www.actionlove.com


He is convinced that he has the same symptoms as Bruce Lee and that he will die. He says it has something to do also with too much masturbation, it weakened his body to the point where he can't recuperate, so now his penis stopped working. He also told me he can "mess around" with girls but he can't ejaculate. This has caused me to think that it's a psychological problem and not physical.

From my opinion (as a non-doctor) I think he has some mental problems, but I could be wrong. This is a guy that I have been having a crush on for the longest longest time, but I never knew he had "issues" like this.

He also told me that he even tried fucking hookers and having tons of one night stands now, to "test" if he can get it to work again. This all happened in the last 12 months... This does piss me off a lot, because I don't like guys to sleep around if I'm interested in them, but he says he doesn't care anymore because he thinks he is going to die anyways. I am never going to go for him anymore, because now he is a major slut and just getting it on with all these girls and having one night stands.
He broke up with his ex-gf that he lost it too, because he thinks it's not fair to put her through all the pain when he dies.

Has anyone ever heard of anything like this before??

He says it's something western doctors haven't been able to cure or even "discover" yet, and that the closest disease they have to what he has is Chronic Fatige Syndrome.

I know this sounds very bizarre but it's true.

Marcus Aurelius

can I buy the cliff notes, its too late to read all that.

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not going to die, he'll wish he was dead, but he won't die.

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phogirl69

When I talked to him on the phone he said he had a good 3-4 yers left.

As for cliff notes, the guy I am talking to think he is going to die because

- Overmasturbation
-He waited until 24 yrs to have sex
-Extreme weight lifting

He claims that he harmed and exhausted his body by masturbating too much and bench pressing real heavy weights. He thinks somehow it's "harmful" to masturbate too much; something about his blood not diffusing right anymore.

Sometimes I don't really understand his "medical theories" when he is explaining to me. He talks about weird stuff like prostaglandin E1 and elasticity in his body. I think that quack doctor brainwashed him.

I would usually never post something personal like this on a msg board but I just need some input. Everyone I tell this to says it's the most bizarre thing they have ever heard of. I just want to know what's wrong with him.

phogirl69

He tried and said it didn't work. He also visited urologists. He told me it's something Western doctors don't know about and can't diagnose because their medical system is fucked up and not accurate. He only believes in chinese medicine.

Also, he doesn't think he is going to die just because he can't get it up, it's affecting his health and he says he has constant pain and severe headaches... And it's hard for him to concentrate. The guy dropped out of college because of this! He was going to get a good education and get a good job but now his life is fucked because of this...

toddler

fucked because he can't get it up? happens to millions.

(and for the record, that really is 'not fucked' ...)

really though, I'd advise him to A: see a psychiatrist, and B: find a new doctor.

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phogirl69

No, but also because he lifted weights. Not being able to get it up is just one symptoms, but he has other ones like headaches and chronic pain and chronic fatigue. His family did make him see a psychiatrist already. I am close friends with his sister and went through his place when he wasn't home and found brochures about Schizophrenia and Depression, so I have a feeling this is what they think he has, that it's all mental, but of course he won't believe that. He just thinks that the medical community is all corrupt and that they don't know what they are doing.

I know all this stuff because I talk to him on the phone for hours and hours and he tells me everything. He says he can't take vitamins because it will poison him because his blood is not diffusing.

Mutt

it's all nonsense - this guy is a complete psychological mess, until he admits that and gets a good shrink he's gonna go round and round in circles and get worse and worse.

it's all in his head but that's the hardest part of helping people with psychosomatic disorders - he is insistent that he has done real damage to himself and he's seeking out kooks like this Dr. Lin who will support his crazy thinking, changing that kind of thinking is very hard, sometimes impossible, he needs to be on some good meds probably, i bet he's been given anti-depressants and thrown them away after a couple of weeks. i would not want to be the shrink to work with him - he would be a very difficult case.

pxxx

Poor fella, i don't think that is worth thinking that you are going to die though.

phogirl69

So did you look at the Dr Lin site? I read through a lot of it and it's hard for me to understand, I don't really understand his theories or anything. His sister always did tell me that he was a bit "mental" but I never realized it was THIS bad. He is a good looking guy and not ugly at all. I don't understand how something this handsome can be so mental.

He did tell me that he went to doctors and the gave him Prozac and Zoloft (I think) and other meds, but he says it doesn't do anything to help him at all.

His sister tried to hook us up because we were both lonely, ( he was a virgin till 24!) and I was alone for a long time too. I've started to talk to him recently and he's telling me all this weird shit. I always end up with the most fucked up guys. I thought his sister thought he was "mental" as in just being overly shy around girls but I didn't know about the Chinese medicine stuff...

I told my friend (his sister) that he is crazy, and she said that some people just believe in different things, some believe in Chinese medicine and some believe in UFO's and that it doesn't make them crazy ...

Baal

The guy can't get it up because he's worried about getting it up. That insecurity can actually cause a guy to not be able to get it up. Looking to "Chinese" medicine is as effective as looking towards placebos for a cure. If it works, it's all in his head.

Oh, and if "over-masturbation" could cause death, then all men would have a lifespan of about... 26 years

Bottom line: I think he's very depressed, and is trying to avoid that issue. I'd look to treating the depression as a first measure, as he is your friend.

phogirl69

No, not just overmasturbation, I already told him that all guys do that so it can't be that which is making him ill. But he says the weight lifting damaged him too...

Plus he claims that masturbation is more harmful than having sex. Because when you have sex you get "estrogen" from the girl and you don't get that with masterbation.... WTF?!

I don't think I want to out with this guy anymore, because he is just too mental, even for me, and I already have enough stress in my life. I can't deal with someone this disillusional. I was hoping that maybe I was wrong and that there could be some truth to what he was saying, but I guess not...

I told him it's psychological, and he told me to look up on the internet the "Body and Mind problem". He said that there is a mechanism that connects the body and mind but he hasn't found it yet... WTF?

Mutt

there is so much information on Dr. Lin's site that it's impossible to know how much is complete bullshit and what may have some validity.

i am 100% sure if you showed that website to a board certified urologist he'd say that Lin is a complete quack.

your friends most definitely has some depression, unless he's hearing voices and experiecing disassociation he doesn't have schizophrenia.

looks to me like he has a garden variety of mental problems.

that he was a virgin until 24 is one clue, the extreme weight lifting also - bet he has some body dysmorphia issues and intimacy issues which kept him a virgin until he was 24.
he also has hypochondria, depression, obsessive compulsive disorder and probably anxierty disorder - those four things all go together - different sides of the same coin.

like i said he's grasping at straws from Dr. Lin whose giving him the information he wants and needs to believe. Breaking him of this thinking is going to be extremely hard.

Corona

Mutt is right on the money.

This guy is a real mess.

If it was me I would wash my hands of this guy unless he gets help.

You're a hot girl why waste your time on this nut case?

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RedShoe

The guy has mental problems that are now manifesting into a physical reality.. it's called Stress.

Trust me if pulling your dick too much caused death. I'd have died years ago.

I'm a fuckin' marvel to modern science.

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phogirl69

You hit it on the nail with the anxiety... His sister let me check his place a bit when he wasn't home and I found out an 1 800 number he wrote on a napkin for something to help with anxiety. I know because I was so curious I wrote down the # and called it when I got home.

I know he has intimacy issues, because his sister (who is my best friend) told me that when he was younger his best friend slept with his gf and he got weird after that. We talked about that too, and he claimed he wasn't that mad about it all and that he doesn't care, but I have a feeling that it did affect him.

And you were right with the anti-depression drugs too. He was prescribed them and the told me he doesn't take them. his mom yells at him to go to the pyschiatrist but he won't go...

Mutt

well i feel bad for him and his family because this isn't going to be something that gets better on its own.

tell me about his family - from the outside looking in are they a close family?

phogirl69

Hi Corona!

You're right, he is a mess. I wasted my time because at first I didn't know he was a nut case. I thought he was a good guy, becaus my friend (his sister) said that he was, she claimed that he was one of the few good guys left and not promiscuous.

Well, he told me that in the 12 months he got with like 20 girls to "test" out his problem so that goes out the door. He WAS a good guy but not anymore. We were talking about hookers and he told me he would even visit one to test if it was working in the future. His sister was all wrong about hi, she didn't even know he had a girlfriend (ex-girlfriend) now for one and a half years...

Baal

Look, he can't get a hard-on consistantly with women. That would really suck *BIG TIME* to any guy. So the guy tries to place blame outside of himself. That's understandable. Sure, blame masturbation, blame lack of estrogen contact, blame working out, blame lack of $3,000 worth of Chinese herbs... whatever. They're all excuses; the probable fact is that he's psyching himself out.

Don't blame yourself for taking a pass on this guy; he's in his own depressive delusional world. He's making up reasons for his own problems, and folks like that can be very creative.

I'd just wonder why you feel compelled to stick by people who are so obviously self-destructive. It's a losing proposition.

phogirl69

I think so, but to be honest they are dysfunctional, I go there almost every weekend to hang with his sister and I know everything about his family inside out. He's 24 and still lives at home. The parents argue a lot. The dad doesn't work and drinks a lot and goes to coffeeshops all the time and fights with the mom. My friend (his sister) is 26 and still lives at home too. He is very very close with his older brother who is in his 30's. They all live at home to help pay the mortgage. Only his mom works and dad doesn't and they live a huge house and everyone has to pitch in or they will lose the house.

He is close to his mom but not his father. They fight a lot all the time...

We watched dvd's in his room when he went to Vegas and I found tons of papers where her wrote down weird stuff about Chinese Medicine and toxins in the body and what to eat and other weird stuff...

Mutt

that's not fair - he might not be a good prospect as a boyfriend for you, but that doesn't make him a bad guy - he's a sick guy, he doesn't want to be this way i'm sure - he's fucked himself inside out and he's pretty much powerless to figure his way out now. the human mind is a scary thing when it goes awry.

Mutt

i'm good at this - i asked the question because i was pretty sure i'd get this answer. they are middle to upper middle class?

Mutt

i missed the part about paying the mortgage so they aren't upper middle class.

phogirl69

The guy I'm talking to doesn't work and dropped out of college. My sister said that her oldest brother (whom he is very very close with) is a network engineer makes 70k but spends all of it on hookers and girls and going out. My friend does not make much, she has a horrible job and makes very very low pay. His mom doesn't make much either. But they live in a very decent house that looks upper-middle class to me. They aren't poor. And the oldest sister who is married and moved out helps pay the bills.
The dad doesn't work at all. But their house is like at least 350k if not almost 400k worth, they live in Huntington Beach and houses are expensive there

I know they struggle with money though because my friend always complains that she always has to pitch in the most for rent while no one else does, everyone else makes more money but they all spend it on themselves, so she has to pitch in the most... Her bros and sisters are college grads but pay less than her, while she only gets paid by the hr but has to pay the most because no on elee will...

phogirl69

Another thing I should add, his sister, who is my best friend has "issues" as well, but not as much as him. I know she used to have an eating disorder or if not an eating disorder at least serious issues with eating. And she also has that "body dismorphic" thing, she asks me 10,000 times if she is fat or thin, and she's so unhappy with herself even though she is gorgeous.
She spent over 1k to get her skin lasered while there is nothing wrong with her skin at all!!

Plus she has intimacy issues. She is 27 and I've known her since high school and she has never had a boyfriend either. She has intimacy issues as well.

Mutt

these people sound very similar to some families i know including my own.

oh well.

baddog

Is this guy a recurring member or something? I am not sure why we care

goBigtime

Are you sure he's not just trying to brush you off in a nice my-dick-doesnt-work-and-I-like-hookers sort of way?

robfantasy

that sucks id feel the same way

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phogirl69

No.... Before I started talking to him, my friend already told me that her brother was "seriously ill" and had to drop out of college, and she said the doctors couldn't find out what was wrong with him... it already started a long time ago.

He thinks I'm pretty, he told his sister I was prettier than his ex, so I'm sure that's not it ;) He also told his sister that he loves talking to me on the phone and that not only am I pretty but I have a great personality too ;) ... She tells me everything... But he doesn't want to be in a relationship with anyone because he thinks he's going to die. So in the meantime he has flings with strippers, girls from school, hookers, and God knows who else...
He's not trying to brush me off, we talk a lot about sex too, and he asks me what I like in bed and stuff... so he probably has naughty thoughts about me...

We talk about everything on the phone.. I even told him I sell porn and he thinks it's very cool... He told me he can ejaculate when he watches porn and masturbates if he forces it very hard, but not with another girl.

Another thing that is a bit weird, I think he has too much porn.... Porn is great, I sell it, but this guy has like 300 tapes, and that's a bit too much... It's cause he waited so long to have sex so I guess he needed it... And he claims he lifted weghts to calm down his testosterone...

I don't think he's Schizo because I don't think he hears voices like Mutt said. I know what Schizo is, because my mom has it And she hears voices. (I have issues in my own life too)
But he does need help though...

the Shemp

he sounds like a flake and a phone freak....

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VeriSexy

This guy sounds like he has a anxiety disorder for sure, I feel sorry for him. So are you thinking about dating him or what? You want opinions from guys on GFY?

I bet 90% of the guys on GFY are like him

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tical

heavy weight lifting? improper steroid use maybe?

low testostorone can cause libido problems, fatigue, depression, etc...

things like propecia and poscar can cause these problems too

i'd get some bloodwork done and see a doc

phogirl69

I don't think he uses steroroid but will ask him. He already had bloodwork and regular check ups. He went beyond that and even had some brain scan test that cost 1k to check if he had any vessels almost popping or something like that in his brain. He told me he saw many urologists already and they couldn't help him. He already was prescribed anti-depressants but he doesn't take them...

He goes to the Chriopractor now a few times a week, and he gets massages at the massage place inside 24 the hour fitness gym.. He says it helps with his overall health a bit...

VeriSexy

"He told me he can ejaculate when he watches porn and masturbates if he forces it very hard, but not with another girl"

Nothing wrong with his equipment. He just needs to find someone he can really trust and be patient with him.

"The guy I'm talking to doesn't work and dropped out of college."

Another reason for a guy to feel depressed. No money really sucks. Ask him if he would like to make some money in porn. Once he's making some money his self esteem will go up a bit.

"guy has like 300 tapes, and that's a bit too much... "

How on earth can a guy get 300 porn tapes with no money? You mean he downloads vcds off the Internet? Have you even asked him how many of them he as actually even watched? I bet he as watched less than 20 of them. Maybe he collects them to use up his time.

Sounds like your interested in this guy but your afraid of his mental problems. Don't you have anxiety problems too? If you like him, give him a chance.

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tical

I'm not a doctor or anything, but if he took steroids... it sounds like something he took shut him down pretty bad and his natural levels of testosterone never got back to normal.

there are always extreme cases of everything and i've read about people 'shutting down' for over a year (even with the proper post cycle treatment).

but if the docs didnt catch that then i dunno wtf is goin on...

sucks to be him... maybe he needs some viagra or cialis?

VeriSexy

I thought this guy has no problems getting hard and cumming with porn.

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tical

she said he can get hard and cum if he jacks it real hard

i guess that sort of forces the bloodflow into mr happy and stimulates his cocknballs much faster than he could possibly do if he were actually having sex

phogirl69

He used to work before, and he always rents DVD's and records them to tape... He never had a lot of money, but at least some... He only dropped out of school around March or April, but the porn is a massive collection he amassed probably from when he was a teen until now, so that's like many years worth of tapes.

I don't think he should sell porn because his mind is so disillusioned, it would be unhealthy for him. He told me if he could get it to work again he would even shoot his own porn, and his mind is so whacked right now I don't think he can deal with it.

The point is not that he can get it up, the point is that he is very very disillusional and thinks he is going to die. The whole family is so used to him being "weird" and "off" I wonder if they seriously realize that he has serious issues? Mental people can act real normal, and still be cool. To them it's probably normal, but it's not...

I don't think I have anxiety problems at all... I probably have issues of my own, but I certainly don't imagine things like he does... He's really out there..

tical

what're you doin fuckin w/ weirdos like this anyway?

phogirl69

No, he tells me it's still very difficult for him to cum watching porn, he has to try real hard and it doesn't completely get hard... He told me it doesn't get hard like before...

VeriSexy

Have you actually asked him? He hears voices in his head or does he just worry about dieing all the time?

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phogirl69

No, I never asked him if he hears voices but i will next time i talk to him... He doesn't worry about dying, in his mind he IS going to die.. I always sweet talk him and tell him he'll be fine.

He broke up with his ex because he thinks its not fair to put her through the pain when he dies. He tells me he tries to start fights with people in the hope that they shoot him since he's going to die anyways. He said he tried to start a fight with this guy by looking at his girlfriend and checking her out, but the guy got scared and walked away...

Also, Mutt, if you're there... about the thing you said with intimacy.... He told me that his ex was someone he met at a grocery store. I told his sister that and she told me that her instinct was that it was probably a hooker who ended up falling for him... she says her brother is not capable of being intimate or having a relationship with a "real girl"... That's her viewpoint anyways...

VeriSexy

Does he get panic attacks?

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tell the moron to visit dr. google

VeriSexy

http://www.mental-health-matters.com...list_alpha.php

http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_index.php?idx=26

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phogirl69

I don't know if he does.. I'll ask him..

Libertine

Simple answer: the guy needs a psychiatrist, and stick with the treatment he gets. Nothing you can do to help, and nothing GFY can do either.

As for the whole chinese medicine thing... many people with psychological problems look for ways of escape, and alternative medicine is especially popular for this. Most alternative medicine, however, is total bullshit, and this actionlove site definitely falls within that category.

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