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Bladewire 10-22-2003 03:26 PM

CONFIRMED: Affiliate programs are giving Acacia their member Information....
 
Ok guys.

I GUARANTEE you that affiliate programs lists have been used by Acacia to send out packets.

I will give you an example from here in Australia. Months ago a guy came to my house with an Acacia packet. The packet was not addressed by his name, but his affiliate account name, which was somewhat obscene and he was embarrassed because he knows the people at the post office and didn't want his adult business known, and now it was out.

Yes the packet was not addressed to him, his affiliate name.

More is coming out about this in these threads:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=188803

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=188753

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=188890

Anyone have an exact affiliate program that has done this to them? Please list it here. If you have suspicion of a couple.. list them here.

It's time this get out in the open. Affiliate programs that have given private info out to Acacia should be boycotted immediately. They should NOT be rewarded for their actions. List the programs in this thread.. even if you have suspicion... and let them publicly come here to confirm, or deny their actions!

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 03:29 PM

told ya everyone.

I was right.

Stud Money 10-22-2003 03:30 PM

Name names :thumbsup

DarkJedi 10-22-2003 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money
Name names :thumbsup

1. Stud Money

kmanrox 10-22-2003 03:31 PM

they can come and get me BWAAHAHAHAHAHAAA

Ray@TastyDollars 10-22-2003 03:31 PM

Affilate names, would'nt that rule out Platinum since they use 4 digit usernames?

Just my :2 cents:

eroswebmaster 10-22-2003 03:31 PM

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kmanrox 10-22-2003 03:32 PM

im sorry, should i rephrase.... TRY to come and find me bwaahaahaha

Stud Money 10-22-2003 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi



1. Stud Money

I would check with your lawyer on that last statement if i were you :Graucho

Could end you up in a whole world of hurt if we wanted (or needed) to persue it :2 cents:

hyatla 10-22-2003 03:33 PM

That's sick. Fuck those programs!

DarkJedi 10-22-2003 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
told ya everyone.

I was right.

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mrthumbs 10-22-2003 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Squirtit

List the programs in this thread.. even if you have suspicion... and let them publicly come here to confirm, or deny their actions!

I havent seen any names yet?

Anyway: a few of the big players that signed contracts early
are the people behind acacia adult attack strategy.

Im sure about that. And inside affiliate information would only
make that idea more acceptable. Dont you think?

I doubt any program would actually supply acacia with affiliate info
since it would be so easy to trace back.

Bladewire 10-22-2003 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
Affilate names, would'nt that rule out Platinum since they use 4 digit usernames?

Just my :2 cents:

I've heard that name come up and no response from them here.

Hustler has also come up and Ken gives us his word that they have never given private info out.. ever.

Any other names other then platinum and hustler coming up?

brand0n 10-22-2003 03:34 PM

thats pretty fucked up.. snitch on your friends to cover your own ass?

DarkJedi 10-22-2003 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money


I would check with your lawyer on that last statement if i were you :Graucho

Could end you up in a whole world of hurt if we wanted (or needed) to persue it :2 cents:

:1orglaugh

I can't be prosecuted - i'm bipolar :glugglug

Mr.Fiction 10-22-2003 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money


I would check with your lawyer on that last statement if i were you :Graucho

Could end you up in a whole world of hurt if we wanted (or needed) to persue it :2 cents:

Have you ever turned anything over to Acacia? Make a statement for those of us who don't know who's selling out the industry. I have no idea if you even signed with Acacia.

BradShaw 10-22-2003 03:36 PM

A few people who have signed early, would love to put the smaller guys out of business, that's no secret.

What is surprising of these claims is that these are companies who have recently made a deal with Acacia. If true, boycott is in order. Sell outs.

ytcracker 10-22-2003 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
thats pretty fucked up.. snitch on your friends to cover your own ass?
ive seen movies where people get killed for less

Bladewire 10-22-2003 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs


I havent seen any names yet?

Anyway: a few of the big players that signed contracts early
are the people behind acacia adult attack strategy.

Im sure about that. And inside affiliate information would only
make that idea more acceptable. Dont you think?

I doubt any program would actually supply acacia with affiliate info
since it would be so easy to trace back.

Well remember.... (company who signed) affiliates are safe promoting (company who signed) video products.. however.. they are not safe promoting their own video, or that of other affiliates!

So wouldn't it make sense for a company to give affiliate info out to make those affiliates only promote their products?

Something to think about. It makes cut throat business sense...

And as Bradshaw said " Biz is biz, and in this biz everyone is out for himself and only himself. " ( this is his philosophy not mine as I've well demonstrated )

What is your input on this?

eroswebmaster 10-22-2003 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ytcracker


ive seen movies where people get killed for less

LOL dude that statment is gangster on so many levels ;)

stocktrader23 10-22-2003 03:38 PM

Why don't you take your own advice and tell us which company leaked your friends info?

Stud Money 10-22-2003 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Have you ever turned anything over to Acacia? Make a statement for those of us who don't know who's selling out the industry. I have no idea if you even signed with Acacia.
It would appear at the present time we seem to be 'golden' with Acacia having not received any of thier packages or communications from them in any form :2 cents:

Bladewire 10-22-2003 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
thats pretty fucked up.. snitch on your friends to cover your own ass?
More like to corner them to promoting only your product, and the few others that have signed. :thumbsup

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
A few people who have signed early, would love to put the smaller guys out of business, that's no secret.

What is surprising of these claims is that these are companies who have recently made a deal with Acacia. If true, boycott is in order. Sell outs.

The papers I got today shows the list of the big companies and basically says that if they did SO SHOULD YOU.

They also include c'net crap to back them up even more.

If I were on of the companies that settled would be pised even more because they are literally USING HUSTLERS name to scare people.

Like it or not this falls back negatively on the companies involved.

BRISK 10-22-2003 03:41 PM

:warning

Mr.Fiction 10-22-2003 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money


It would appear at the present time we seem to be 'golden' with Acacia having not received any of thier packages or communications from them in any form :2 cents:

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Phoenix 10-22-2003 03:42 PM

wow..are these new sponsors who have signed the same ones who bought tons of acacia stock recently as well?

BradShaw 10-22-2003 03:44 PM

Hustler, wicked, vivid, etc. made a business decision. They do so little on the net relatively that it made sense for them not to open themselves up to a potential lawsuit. I would also imagine they got a sweetheart deal. Do not kid yourself, almost everyone in this business is out for themselves, and themselves only. If Acacia told me, $1k a year and we will leave you alone, I would pay it in a second. A business decision.

Do not think that CE, SexCheck, Plat Bucks, etc are paying anywhere near 1-2 gross revenues.....


But, turning over affiliate info is another story.

Mr.Fiction 10-22-2003 03:45 PM

I have strong sources telling me that Acacia is offering licenses for $5000USD flat per Quarter for Adult companies who gross more than $5,000,000 per year from membership sales.

http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/b...80497&mid=22926

Bladewire 10-22-2003 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Why don't you take your own advice and tell us which company leaked your friends info?
He's not a "friend" just a potential business partner.. guy ended up screwing me over ( temporarily increased my liability.. not financially ) so I don't intend on calling him to find out. If I knew I would tell you.

I signed up for over 50 affiliate programs for a project I was working on a few months ago. I didn't want to get spammed so I gave each one a unique email and name.. so I could track who would spam me.. if I do get served... I will know EXACTLY who it is and they will ALL be posted here. I dropped a few of the accounts because they spammed me and sold my info to marketers.. but their info is still in my database.

These people will be held accountable.

Some of these companys tell you your info is private, if they give it to Acacia.. they are violating their own terms.

Bladewire 10-22-2003 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
A few people who have signed early, would love to put the smaller guys out of business, that's no secret.

What is surprising of these claims is that these are companies who have recently made a deal with Acacia. If true, boycott is in order. Sell outs.

Why do you care? You just said every man for himself?

Where exactly are you coming from?

Bladewire 10-22-2003 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
I have strong sources telling me that Acacia is offering licenses for $5000USD flat per Quarter for Adult companies who gross more than $5,000,000 per year from membership sales.

http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/b...80497&mid=22926

your URL is 404

jimmyf 10-22-2003 03:48 PM

Very bad business if any sponsor gave out any info on any affilate, very bad. Me I'll never forget if they did NEVER.....

Bladewire 10-22-2003 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Hustler, wicked, vivid, etc. made a business decision. They do so little on the net relatively that it made sense for them not to open themselves up to a potential lawsuit. I would also imagine they got a sweetheart deal. Do not kid yourself, almost everyone in this business is out for themselves, and themselves only. If Acacia told me, $1k a year and we will leave you alone, I would pay it in a second. A business decision.

Do not think that CE, SexCheck, Plat Bucks, etc are paying anywhere near 1-2 gross revenues.....


But, turning over affiliate info is another story.

Do we have a complete list of the 54 companies.. can someone please post this so we can check our affiliate programs and see if we're enrolled?

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 03:50 PM

guys, the ONLY way I KNOW it came from an affiliate program is because of what it was addressed to as well.

Its something I have only used for affiliate stuff.

And as I said, thesre is simply NO WAY Acacia got my HOME ADDRESS without getting it from an affiliate program.

these two things alone may not be much, but put together it adds up rather quickly.

someone is selling us out.

who? no clue, maybe more than one who knows, hopefully it will come out.

Bladewire 10-22-2003 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
Very bad business if any sponsor gave out any info on any affilate, very bad. Me I'll never forget if they did NEVER.....

THEY DID Jimmyf.. it's already been proven by a few posters here. Cover your ass if you're signed up on an affiliate program.

BradShaw 10-22-2003 03:52 PM

I am coming from a businessman's prospective. As much as I despise Acacia and think the patents are BS, if I was offered a sweetheart deal to avoid a lawsuit, I would strongly consider it.

But, I would never buy the stock beforehand, or turn over ANY affiliate info. I was saying, anyone turning over info should be boycotted, not companies that have made a business decision to license.

titmowse 10-22-2003 03:52 PM

i thought Acacia had access to all business records as part of their licensing agreement. please correct me if i'm wrong

jimmyf 10-22-2003 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Squirtit



THEY DID Jimmyf.. it's already been proven by a few posters here. Cover your ass if you're signed up on an affiliate program.

Post the names someone *NOW*.. We all need 2 know who the asswipes are..

Bladewire 10-22-2003 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
guys, the ONLY way I KNOW it came from an affiliate program is because of what it was addressed to as well.

Its something I have only used for affiliate stuff.

And as I said, thesre is simply NO WAY Acacia got my HOME ADDRESS without getting it from an affiliate program.

these two things alone may not be much, but put together it adds up rather quickly.

someone is selling us out.

who? no clue, maybe more than one who knows, hopefully it will come out.

This matches EXACLTY to the guy I knew here.

Some company/companies that have settled with Acacia are giving out their affiliate list to Acacia. Far-L made a comment to support this as well..

This is happening. You need to protect yourself.. and we need to track these people down. I will personally boycott anyone we find who has done this.

As I said earlier... I gave a unique identifyer to about 80 affiliate programs I signed up with (a number after my name.. and the same number added to the email address) I will probably get something from Acacia and will know EXACTLY who gave the info out.

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