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CONFIRMED: Affiliate programs are giving Acacia their member Information....
Ok guys.
I GUARANTEE you that affiliate programs lists have been used by Acacia to send out packets. I will give you an example from here in Australia. Months ago a guy came to my house with an Acacia packet. The packet was not addressed by his name, but his affiliate account name, which was somewhat obscene and he was embarrassed because he knows the people at the post office and didn't want his adult business known, and now it was out. Yes the packet was not addressed to him, his affiliate name. More is coming out about this in these threads: http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=188803 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=188753 http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=188890 Anyone have an exact affiliate program that has done this to them? Please list it here. If you have suspicion of a couple.. list them here. It's time this get out in the open. Affiliate programs that have given private info out to Acacia should be boycotted immediately. They should NOT be rewarded for their actions. List the programs in this thread.. even if you have suspicion... and let them publicly come here to confirm, or deny their actions! |
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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told ya everyone.
I was right.
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they can come and get me BWAAHAHAHAHAHAAA
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Affilate names, would'nt that rule out Platinum since they use 4 digit usernames?
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im sorry, should i rephrase.... TRY to come and find me bwaahaahaha
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That's sick. Fuck those programs!
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Anyway: a few of the big players that signed contracts early are the people behind acacia adult attack strategy. Im sure about that. And inside affiliate information would only make that idea more acceptable. Dont you think? I doubt any program would actually supply acacia with affiliate info since it would be so easy to trace back. |
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Hustler has also come up and Ken gives us his word that they have never given private info out.. ever. Any other names other then platinum and hustler coming up? |
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thats pretty fucked up.. snitch on your friends to cover your own ass?
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A few people who have signed early, would love to put the smaller guys out of business, that's no secret.
What is surprising of these claims is that these are companies who have recently made a deal with Acacia. If true, boycott is in order. Sell outs.
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So wouldn't it make sense for a company to give affiliate info out to make those affiliates only promote their products? Something to think about. It makes cut throat business sense... And as Bradshaw said " Biz is biz, and in this biz everyone is out for himself and only himself. " ( this is his philosophy not mine as I've well demonstrated ) What is your input on this? |
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Why don't you take your own advice and tell us which company leaked your friends info?
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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They also include c'net crap to back them up even more. If I were on of the companies that settled would be pised even more because they are literally USING HUSTLERS name to scare people. Like it or not this falls back negatively on the companies involved.
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wow..are these new sponsors who have signed the same ones who bought tons of acacia stock recently as well?
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Hustler, wicked, vivid, etc. made a business decision. They do so little on the net relatively that it made sense for them not to open themselves up to a potential lawsuit. I would also imagine they got a sweetheart deal. Do not kid yourself, almost everyone in this business is out for themselves, and themselves only. If Acacia told me, $1k a year and we will leave you alone, I would pay it in a second. A business decision.
Do not think that CE, SexCheck, Plat Bucks, etc are paying anywhere near 1-2 gross revenues..... But, turning over affiliate info is another story.
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I have strong sources telling me that Acacia is offering licenses for $5000USD flat per Quarter for Adult companies who gross more than $5,000,000 per year from membership sales.
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I signed up for over 50 affiliate programs for a project I was working on a few months ago. I didn't want to get spammed so I gave each one a unique email and name.. so I could track who would spam me.. if I do get served... I will know EXACTLY who it is and they will ALL be posted here. I dropped a few of the accounts because they spammed me and sold my info to marketers.. but their info is still in my database. These people will be held accountable. Some of these companys tell you your info is private, if they give it to Acacia.. they are violating their own terms. |
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Very bad business if any sponsor gave out any info on any affilate, very bad. Me I'll never forget if they did NEVER.....
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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guys, the ONLY way I KNOW it came from an affiliate program is because of what it was addressed to as well.
Its something I have only used for affiliate stuff. And as I said, thesre is simply NO WAY Acacia got my HOME ADDRESS without getting it from an affiliate program. these two things alone may not be much, but put together it adds up rather quickly. someone is selling us out. who? no clue, maybe more than one who knows, hopefully it will come out.
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THEY DID Jimmyf.. it's already been proven by a few posters here. Cover your ass if you're signed up on an affiliate program. |
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I am coming from a businessman's prospective. As much as I despise Acacia and think the patents are BS, if I was offered a sweetheart deal to avoid a lawsuit, I would strongly consider it.
But, I would never buy the stock beforehand, or turn over ANY affiliate info. I was saying, anyone turning over info should be boycotted, not companies that have made a business decision to license.
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i thought Acacia had access to all business records as part of their licensing agreement. please correct me if i'm wrong
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Some company/companies that have settled with Acacia are giving out their affiliate list to Acacia. Far-L made a comment to support this as well.. This is happening. You need to protect yourself.. and we need to track these people down. I will personally boycott anyone we find who has done this. As I said earlier... I gave a unique identifyer to about 80 affiliate programs I signed up with (a number after my name.. and the same number added to the email address) I will probably get something from Acacia and will know EXACTLY who gave the info out. Don't be afraid to post people... ICQ me if you don't want to post. 265912752 |
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Wouldnt some kind of data protection law make this illegal?
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Don't lynch me if I'm wrong, but I do recall reading that the terms of the license do require people who sign a license with them to give Acacia full disclosure about their "affiliates" so that they may be served as well.
When Acacia were talking about "affiliates" being safe if a program signed, they didn't mean it in the sense of the word that we use it, they meant affiliates as in employees, owners or people directly affiliated with the entity that signed.
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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For those who have NOT gotten anything yet, Acacias address is less than a couple hours from me and the postmark on the letter was yesterday.
So depending where you are check your boxes the next couple of days. No doubt more letters are in transit right now.
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i got my first letter today as well. and now that i think about it acacia had to have gotten it from a sponsor. the only people that have this adress is sponsers, none of my whois info or anything else goes to this address. same with content. my dredit cards have a different address than this address so i use that address with content companys...
im gonna figure out which sponsor gave out my info. can someone link me to a list of sponsors that have signed?
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