Twitter is becoming bad for porn traffic - GoFuckYourself.com

DumpManager · 11-09-2016, 06:35 PM

Hey everyone,

I was curious how many of you use twitter for promoting. I know I sure do. I've noticed over the last year though things have been on a downturn in terms of traffic coming from twitter.

I get a decent number of retweets and likes etc, and am currently at 118K followers for my main twitter account. The last 28 days I've done 277 tweets for 3.51 Million impressions and 419K profile visits.

Originally I would use a nice .jpg picture as a preview pic in the tweet to try and entice people to coming over to check out the FHG or video. It was great. After a while twitter upgraded their service to allow for animated .gifs.

Wow did that ever increase the traffic coming in, especially since I would make my own custom animated gifs from the preview content and it would bring lots of people over, especially since I had custom animated gifs that nobody else did.

But then...

Twitter started allowing 30 second videos. That's when I started to notice the traffic starting to level off a little bit. My twitter analytics were all still in the positive gains though. I was gaining more followers but less of them were using the links to come to my site.

Shortly thereafter twitter increased their service to allow videos up to 2 minutes and 30 seconds. Since then I've noticed a big downturn in traffic coming to my site from Twitter. My analytics show I'm still gaining but people just aren't leaving twitter now.

The reason they are not leaving twitter any longer (I think) is because they no longer have to. They can just watch porn on twitter now, just find an account and check their feed and you have a semi-curated niche porn tube.

118K sounds like a lot of followers but amongst my friends on twitter, I'm the small guy. I have friends from my level all the way up to 956K followers.

I see lots of people posting FULL videos these days - splitting them into 2 min 30 second chunks. Most of the time the people doing this don't even link back to their website, to a FHG, or to anything. Some of them I don't think are even affiliated with any porn company at all. It's like they are going for a high score where the number of followers they have is the points.

Then yesterday and today I saw a 9 minute long video on twitter and a 6 minute one.

This can't be good for business.. while it is worse for small affiliates, I think it's also bad for the companies because even though they are getting lots of free promo (Watermarks are almost always left on the videos at least), less and less people are leaving twitter to come buy a membership. They are just watching it all free on Twitter now..

What do you all think or say about this? I have no idea about it myself.

Do the companies know this is a thing that has been happening? What do affiliate managers say about this? I'm sure it must be against ToS of most affiliate programs but I just don't know what to do or think.

Anyone else noticing this recent trend?

BigFurry · 11-09-2016, 06:55 PM

What you say makes perfect sense, unfortunately.

Brian mike · 11-09-2016, 07:00 PM

Is the video is paid sponsors ?

I was not aware about video would play that long, but i have to say it make sense.

NatalieK · 11-09-2016, 07:05 PM

you noticed this also! I've only been noticing a massive rise in fansign collectors for my own crowd of followers!

the porn business get's harder and harder to make a living

TheDynasty · 11-09-2016, 07:07 PM

Twitter traffic has always been great for me but I have my own brand.

The Porn Nerd · 11-09-2016, 07:07 PM

Substitute "Twitter" for "tubes" and it's deja vu all over again.

It's human nature. Whenever there's anything cool and earning you money some Haji from some third world country (or the owners of a big company using outsourced labor, same thing) will flood the platform with free. Why? Because $0.02 is a lot of money in Pakistan.

EVERYTHING is going this way and when the world wakes up to find 98% of its' workers sitting around broke scratching their asses - and the free ride stops - people will go huh? Especially Millenials who know nothing BUT free. Think they will pay?

Elli · 11-09-2016, 08:37 PM

Wow. I had no idea you could post such long videos on Twitter now. That's crazy! Unfortunately, what you say makes a lot of sense.

notinmybackyard · 11-10-2016, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Substitute "Twitter" for "tubes" and it's deja vu all over again.

It's human nature. Whenever there's anything cool and earning you money some Haji from some third world country (or the owners of a big company using outsourced labor, same thing) will flood the platform with free. Why? Because $0.02 is a lot of money in Pakistan.

EVERYTHING is going this way and when the world wakes up to find 98% of its' workers sitting around broke scratching their asses - and the free ride stops - people will go huh? Especially Millenials who know nothing BUT free. Think they will pay?

Exactly
I've started producing content of women in hijabs and burkas. A lot of musslims freak out when a guy with a jewish star fucks them in the ass and they end up paying for the video in order to try and figure out who the woman is. Plus facist ignorant rednecks will drop down a credit card because they just love this kind of stuff.

Paul&John · 11-10-2016, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike

Is the video is paid sponsors ?

I was not aware about video would play that long, but i have to say it make sense.

According to this: https://support.twitter.com/articles/20172128#
Maximum video length is 2 minutes and 20 seconds.

So I think advertisement (sponsored tweets) can be only longer than that..

AndraKiru · 11-10-2016, 01:38 AM

I've noticed the same thing.
Twitter is one of the best networks to promote this line of business but their interest is to have people stay on Twitter, not leave and go on to other websites.
And this is the fault of people that post those 2 min porn videos. They're desperate.
It ruins things for everyone.

I put myself in the user's shoes, why would I pay and go on to another site when I have all the free porn right in front of me? easy, on my phone..

suesheboy · 11-10-2016, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndraKiru

I've noticed the same thing.
Twitter is one of the best networks to promote this line of business but their interest is to have people stay on Twitter, not leave and go on to other websites.
And this is the fault of people that post those 2 min porn videos. They're desperate.
It ruins things for everyone.

I put myself in the user's shoes, why would I pay and go on to another site when I have all the free porn right in front of me? easy, on my phone..

This is the answer "have people stay on Twitter" just like Facebook

Paul&John · 11-10-2016, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndraKiru

I've noticed the same thing.
Twitter is one of the best networks to promote this line of business but their interest is to have people stay on Twitter, not leave and go on to other websites.
And this is the fault of people that post those 2 min porn videos. They're desperate.
It ruins things for everyone.

I put myself in the user's shoes, why would I pay and go on to another site when I have all the free porn right in front of me? easy, on my phone..

2 min. porn videos shouldn't be a real issue. Ppl leave big tubes to go to a paysite even when watching 7 minute videos..

AndraKiru · 11-10-2016, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John

2 min. porn videos shouldn't be a real issue. Ppl leave big tubes to go to a paysite even when watching 7 minute videos..

That's true.
So should we see this Twitter thing like a problem for our sites or not?
Or is this just a signal for us from the creative part to up ur game?

Barry-xlovecam · 11-10-2016, 06:55 AM

I call that a "closed loop silo" effect.

Facebook does that so well to many of its user base Facebook IS the Internet.

However, this cannot work well with seeded commercial content -- as you have expressed in your frustration with Twitter. Commercial users will stop feeding the machine if they get no benefit.

The machine may not collapse however. If non commercial users reshare the commercially placed content the platform may survive for sometime just like the tubes. Given time, without non commercial user input of content the platform will collapse -- so the non commercial user violates copyright or the platform itself has to seed the content.

Moral of the story -- these platforms are for guerrilla marketing only and will collapse in value to you at random intervals. Use them and don't let them abuse you ... move on ... next.

Paul&John · 11-10-2016, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndraKiru

That's true.
So should we see this Twitter thing like a problem for our sites or not?
Or is this just a signal for us from the creative part to up ur game?

Push 2 min. videos as well, where 90% of the video is just talk, then the rest is something good worth visiting the link/watermark.

AndraKiru · 11-10-2016, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I call that a "closed loop silo" effect.

Facebook does that so well to many of its user base Facebook IS the Internet.

However, this cannot work well with seeded commercial content -- as you have expressed in your frustration with Twitter. Commercial users will stop feeding the machine if they get no benefit.

The machine may not collapse however. If non commercial users reshare the commercially placed content the platform may survive for sometime just like the tubes. Given time, without non commercial user input of content the platform will collapse -- so the non commercial user violates copyright or the platform itself has to seed the content.

Moral of the story -- these platforms are for guerrilla marketing only and will collapse in value to you at random intervals. Use them and don't let them abuse you ... move on ... next.

Although I agree that it will collapse if people will stop using this, I think that the bad seed has already been planned.
It's hard now to go back to clean marketing when Twitter has already become a short video Tube.
Either we all jump on in this and stop, or we just find new inventive ways to make our content more appealing to the "customers"

DumpManager · 11-10-2016, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John

According to this: https://support.twitter.com/articles/20172128#
Maximum video length is 2 minutes and 20 seconds.

So I think advertisement (sponsored tweets) can be only longer than that..

You are right that twitter max video length is that, however, some people have found a way around it and are able to post up to 9 minute long videos. I've seen a few so far. It's rare but once that info gets out, more people will use it.

The people posting vids longer than the maximum are not associated with twitter and I seriously doubt they are part of some sort of paid sponsorship. I have no idea how they are doing it but it doesn't really matter when people will split up a vid into 12 parts and post them all as replies so they are all in order. Splitting would also greatly increase your impressions and get you more followers.

I tried to find an example of one of these longer video posts but it's hard to find that stuff, if I come across one I'll post it in here to show you.

DumpManager · 11-10-2016, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John

2 min. porn videos shouldn't be a real issue. Ppl leave big tubes to go to a paysite even when watching 7 minute videos..

I've been using Twitter for years and I'd like to think I have a pretty good idea of how it's working.

A 2 minute video is not the major problem.. A post with a 2 minute video followed by 10 replies each in order and under the original post in 2 minute segments until the entire video has been posted. That's the MAJOR problem.

Since it's split, you have 11 tweets all getting impressions instead of just 1. you have 11 tweets that are now being RT'd instead of just 1. If the original tweet got say 10,000 impresions, the entire spool would result in something more like 150,000 impressions. That's 150,000 people who will watch part or the entire video on twitter and not visit the website it's from to buy a membership or to see what else there is.

It's far more than just a 2 minute video

Paul&John · 11-11-2016, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DumpManager

I've been using Twitter for years and I'd like to think I have a pretty good idea of how it's working.

A 2 minute video is not the major problem.. A post with a 2 minute video followed by 10 replies each in order and under the original post in 2 minute segments until the entire video has been posted. That's the MAJOR problem.

Since it's split, you have 11 tweets all getting impressions instead of just 1. you have 11 tweets that are now being RT'd instead of just 1. If the original tweet got say 10,000 impresions, the entire spool would result in something more like 150,000 impressions. That's 150,000 people who will watch part or the entire video on twitter and not visit the website it's from to buy a membership or to see what else there is.

It's far more than just a 2 minute video

Yeah of course this doesn't sounds good..

j3rkules · 11-11-2016, 04:45 PM

I prefer Tumblr over Twitter. The traffic I get from there is much more productive.

Smart Fred · 11-13-2016, 05:24 AM

When the Tubes rise I thought I couldn't compete cause they were offering more than I could. I was a TGP submitter and all the traffic move to them. So my sales dropped down and I nearly die as an adult webmaster.

The fact is that by that time we were all looking for more and more traffic to get more sales. We were wrong to look for traffic, we have to look for buyers.

Twitter users are no different than porn sites users. There's millions users who want free content and a few buyers.

So now I don't care getting thousands of visitors on my sites or having thousands of Twitter followers. Now I'm targeting buyers and create my new sites for them. I earn more with a free site with less than 10k visitors than I was earning in 2008 with 250k uniques of TGP traffic.

So back with Twitter, you couldn't do anything about the full videos in 2mn clips so do what's needed to keep the buyers on your Twitter account and don't care about the followers looking for full videos.

Paul&John · 11-16-2016, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smart Fred

When the Tubes rise I thought I couldn't compete cause they were offering more than I could. I was a TGP submitter and all the traffic move to them. So my sales dropped down and I nearly die as an adult webmaster.

The fact is that by that time we were all looking for more and more traffic to get more sales. We were wrong to look for traffic, we have to look for buyers.

Twitter users are no different than porn sites users. There's millions users who want free content and a few buyers.

So now I don't care getting thousands of visitors on my sites or having thousands of Twitter followers. Now I'm targeting buyers and create my new sites for them. I earn more with a free site with less than 10k visitors than I was earning in 2008 with 250k uniques of TGP traffic.

So back with Twitter, you couldn't do anything about the full videos in 2mn clips so do what's needed to keep the buyers on your Twitter account and don't care about the followers looking for full videos.

Smart Fred sounds Smart ;)

11-09-2016, 06:35 PM	#1
DumpManager Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 402	Twitter is becoming bad for porn traffic Hey everyone, I was curious how many of you use twitter for promoting. I know I sure do. I've noticed over the last year though things have been on a downturn in terms of traffic coming from twitter. I get a decent number of retweets and likes etc, and am currently at 118K followers for my main twitter account. The last 28 days I've done 277 tweets for 3.51 Million impressions and 419K profile visits. Originally I would use a nice .jpg picture as a preview pic in the tweet to try and entice people to coming over to check out the FHG or video. It was great. After a while twitter upgraded their service to allow for animated .gifs. Wow did that ever increase the traffic coming in, especially since I would make my own custom animated gifs from the preview content and it would bring lots of people over, especially since I had custom animated gifs that nobody else did. But then... Twitter started allowing 30 second videos. That's when I started to notice the traffic starting to level off a little bit. My twitter analytics were all still in the positive gains though. I was gaining more followers but less of them were using the links to come to my site. Shortly thereafter twitter increased their service to allow videos up to 2 minutes and 30 seconds. Since then I've noticed a big downturn in traffic coming to my site from Twitter. My analytics show I'm still gaining but people just aren't leaving twitter now. The reason they are not leaving twitter any longer (I think) is because they no longer have to. They can just watch porn on twitter now, just find an account and check their feed and you have a semi-curated niche porn tube. 118K sounds like a lot of followers but amongst my friends on twitter, I'm the small guy. I have friends from my level all the way up to 956K followers. I see lots of people posting FULL videos these days - splitting them into 2 min 30 second chunks. Most of the time the people doing this don't even link back to their website, to a FHG, or to anything. Some of them I don't think are even affiliated with any porn company at all. It's like they are going for a high score where the number of followers they have is the points. Then yesterday and today I saw a 9 minute long video on twitter and a 6 minute one. This can't be good for business.. while it is worse for small affiliates, I think it's also bad for the companies because even though they are getting lots of free promo (Watermarks are almost always left on the videos at least), less and less people are leaving twitter to come buy a membership. They are just watching it all free on Twitter now.. What do you all think or say about this? I have no idea about it myself. Do the companies know this is a thing that has been happening? What do affiliate managers say about this? I'm sure it must be against ToS of most affiliate programs but I just don't know what to do or think. Anyone else noticing this recent trend? __________________ Actual Free Porn Cams - 100% Real Actual Free Porn Cams and Porn Cam Sites HD High Res Porn - The Hottest HD Digh Def 18+ Teen Porn, Milf, Lesbian & Erotica.

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The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,577	Substitute "Twitter" for "tubes" and it's deja vu all over again. It's human nature. Whenever there's anything cool and earning you money some Haji from some third world country (or the owners of a big company using outsourced labor, same thing) will flood the platform with free. Why? Because $0.02 is a lot of money in Pakistan. EVERYTHING is going this way and when the world wakes up to find 98% of its' workers sitting around broke scratching their asses - and the free ride stops - people will go huh? Especially Millenials who know nothing BUT free. Think they will pay? __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

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BigFurry Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,558	What you say makes perfect sense, unfortunately.

11-09-2016, 08:37 PM	#7
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11-10-2016, 01:38 AM	#10
AndraKiru Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Cyprus Posts: 67	I've noticed the same thing. Twitter is one of the best networks to promote this line of business but their interest is to have people stay on Twitter, not leave and go on to other websites. And this is the fault of people that post those 2 min porn videos. They're desperate. It ruins things for everyone. I put myself in the user's shoes, why would I pay and go on to another site when I have all the free porn right in front of me? easy, on my phone..

11-10-2016, 06:55 AM	#14
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	I call that a "closed loop silo" effect. Facebook does that so well to many of its user base Facebook IS the Internet. However, this cannot work well with seeded commercial content -- as you have expressed in your frustration with Twitter. Commercial users will stop feeding the machine if they get no benefit. The machine may not collapse however. If non commercial users reshare the commercially placed content the platform may survive for sometime just like the tubes. Given time, without non commercial user input of content the platform will collapse -- so the non commercial user violates copyright or the platform itself has to seed the content. Moral of the story -- these platforms are for guerrilla marketing only and will collapse in value to you at random intervals. Use them and don't let them abuse you ... move on ... next.

11-11-2016, 04:45 PM	#20
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11-13-2016, 05:24 AM	#21
Smart Fred Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: France Posts: 308	When the Tubes rise I thought I couldn't compete cause they were offering more than I could. I was a TGP submitter and all the traffic move to them. So my sales dropped down and I nearly die as an adult webmaster. The fact is that by that time we were all looking for more and more traffic to get more sales. We were wrong to look for traffic, we have to look for buyers. Twitter users are no different than porn sites users. There's millions users who want free content and a few buyers. So now I don't care getting thousands of visitors on my sites or having thousands of Twitter followers. Now I'm targeting buyers and create my new sites for them. I earn more with a free site with less than 10k visitors than I was earning in 2008 with 250k uniques of TGP traffic. So back with Twitter, you couldn't do anything about the full videos in 2mn clips so do what's needed to keep the buyers on your Twitter account and don't care about the followers looking for full videos. __________________ Stop doing what you like and start doing what brings you money!