Originally Posted by theking (Post 17193464)

No...but his rejection is alive and well...but what Israel was willing to agree to at that point in time...I do not think is alive and well...so the Arabs continue to shoot themselves in the foot.

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17193468)

No it didn't. You're a Jew and you don't even know Israeli history? Here is the truth about Israels history. Just after WWII there were many Jews that tried to immigrate to the US after war. Truman who was open about his dislikes for the Jews pressured England to turn over Palestine to the (newly formed) UN. England first refused and was actually gearing up to set up an offensive because Jewish settlers were running "terrorist raids" (from Cyprus) and actually blew up the English Governor and his family in their home.

Again, the US put pressure on England because at the time England needed US support to rebuild and manage their overseas colonies. The British folded and gave Palestine to the UN and the UN then gave the country to the Arab Palestinians. The Jews then hustled, bought, or killed for the country in pieces from the Arabs. :2 cents:

The problem is not your average Israeli because they are like everyone else, they just want to raise a family and and get on with life. The real problem with Israel is the minority religious Jews who are just as fanatical and are straight out racists (elitists) as Muslim terrorist if not worse.

Case in point, the first Israeli president that pressed for true peace and ignored the religious right was assassinated for it by a Jew. The Americans supported Israel because we have our own religious-right who actually believe the second coming of Christ can only happen if there is a country called Israel. Ironically, the American religious-right are too stupid to understand what happens if Jesus did come back because all non-Christians would need to convert or die.

Anyway, back to the boat issue. You do realize that the world recognizes the Arabs as a Palestinian state? You also do understand that the Arabs have their own harbors outside of Israel correct? In short, the IDF commandos just pirated an aid boat and now acting like victims?

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17193425)

You believe Isreal has any real power?

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17193486)

Did he just die or get killed for trying to cooperate?

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17193468)

No it didn't. You're a Jew and you don't even know Israeli history? Here is the truth about Israels history. Just after WWII there were many Jews that tried to immigrate to the US after war. Truman who was open about his dislikes for the Jews pressured England to turn over Palestine to the (newly formed) UN. England first refused and was actually gearing up to set up an offensive because Jewish settlers were running "terrorist raids" (from Cyprus) and actually blew up the English Governor and his family in their home.

Again, the US put pressure on England because at the time England needed US support to rebuild and manage their overseas colonies. The British folded and gave Palestine to the UN and the UN then gave the country to the Arab Palestinians. The Jews then hustled, bought, or killed for the country in pieces from the Arabs. :2 cents:

The problem is not your average Israeli because they are like everyone else, they just want to raise a family and and get on with life. The real problem with Israel is the minority religious Jews who are just as fanatical and are straight out racists (elitists) as Muslim terrorist if not worse.

Case in point, the first Israeli president that pressed for true peace and ignored the religious right was assassinated for it by a Jew. The Americans supported Israel because we have our own religious-right who actually believe the second coming of Christ can only happen if there is a country called Israel. Ironically, the American religious-right are too stupid to understand what happens if Jesus did come back because all non-Christians would need to convert or die.

Anyway, back to the boat issue. You do realize that the world recognizes the Arabs as a Palestinian state? You also do understand that the Arabs have their own harbors outside of Israel correct? In short, the IDF commandos just pirated an aid boat and now acting like victims?

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17193506)

I do know the Jews used terrorist tactics against the Uk when they wanted them out of Isreal.

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 17193510)

In short yes, I believe they do.

I don't mean tin foil hat jews control the world power, I mean Israel itself is not the underdog of 40 years ago. They can do with Palestine what they please, who is going to fight them? Not Egypt, Iran posture but they have other problems, Syria using Lebanon as a proxy a little..

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 17193528)

I wouldn't support a Race that wants me dead either and thus I don't like Islam. Islam wants us all dead Jews and Gentiles, but it doesn't seem right that...

Arabs were relocated so Isreal could exist and we supported that. There is something wrong there even though I know who's side I'm on.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17192251)

it boils down to this.

If the Arabs put down their weapons there will be no more killing and war.
If the Israelis put down their weapons there will be no more Israel.

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17193468)

No it didn't. You're a Jew and you don't even know Israeli history? Here is the truth about Israels history. Just after WWII there were many Jews that tried to immigrate to the US after war. Truman who was open about his dislikes for the Jews pressured England to turn over Palestine to the (newly formed) UN. England first refused and was actually gearing up to set up an offensive because Jewish settlers were running "terrorist raids" (from Cyprus) and actually blew up the English Governor and his family in their home.

Again, the US put pressure on England because at the time England needed US support to rebuild and manage their overseas colonies. The British folded and gave Palestine to the UN and the UN then gave the country to the Arab Palestinians. The Jews then hustled, bought, or killed for the country in pieces from the Arabs. :2 cents:

The problem is not your average Israeli because they are like everyone else, they just want to raise a family and and get on with life. The real problem with Israel is the minority religious Jews who are just as fanatical and are straight out racists (elitists) as Muslim terrorist if not worse.

Case in point, the first Israeli president that pressed for true peace and ignored the religious right was assassinated for it by a Jew. The Americans supported Israel because we have our own religious-right who actually believe the second coming of Christ can only happen if there is a country called Israel. Ironically, the American religious-right are too stupid to understand what happens if Jesus did come back because all non-Christians would need to convert or die.

Anyway, back to the boat issue. You do realize that the world recognizes the Arabs as a Palestinian state? You also do understand that the Arabs have their own harbors outside of Israel correct? In short, the IDF commandos just pirated an aid boat and now acting like victims?

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 17193329)

Most people know nothing about the Jewish insurection which is why I brought it up.

Anyway I have no interest in discussing politics with someone smarter than myself.

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17193578)

What about the Balfour Declaration after WWI ... this was planned long before WWII

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17193443)

I certainly hope you are against Arizona's new racial profiling law.
Because according to the GFY experts, to the conquerors go the spoils.

"All lands are invaded and conquered, it's just a fact of life, get over it." is what I'm used to hearing. So if that still applies, then the Palestinians got exactly what they deserved. They lost. Now they can deal with it.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17193582)

Fixed for accuracy.

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17193407)

I sssume that you must be aware that there has not always been a country of Palestine...and that at different points of time in history...the country of "Palestine" was controlled by various countries...some of which no longer exist...and that at one point in time "Palestine" was the nation of Israel. My point being that to use the term "to steal another country" really does not have any meaning of import. Through out history it pretty much boils down to "might is right"...and is applicable to our own country.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17193631)

Truly, I'm not interested in biblical stuff that assigns them the right - unfortunately that biblical trash is the reason for what's going on. I understand Israel was part of the bible and history, then it become the province/region during Greek times, it was a place a group/mixture of people/tribes, called home either way.

My problem isn't that Jews naming it Israel or living in the area. My problem is what they're doing to the people that they should live in peace with, but aren't all because of that stupid ass book. If they came in, lived together and build up a nation and didn't have a group of assholes screwing it all up, then I wouldn't have a problem with the situation at all.

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 17193614)

No matter how many times you repeat how smart you are doesn't make it so.

You keep embarrassing yourself here kid.

Grow hairs on your chest, read a few books then, and only then, come back here to debate among adults :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 17193614)

No matter how many times you repeat how smart you are doesn't make it so.

You keep embarrassing yourself here kid.

Grow hairs on your chest, read a few books then, and only then, come back here to debate among adults :2 cents:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17193656)

Which may speak to your point but none of what you said speaks to my point.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17192251)

it boils down to this.

If the Arabs put down their weapons there will be no more killing and war.
If the Israelis put down their weapons there will be no more Israel.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17193668)

Easy for you to say, you haven't been able to offer any kind of cogent argument, so if I WAS a kid, how humiliating it must be for you to get your ass kicked by one :)

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 17193708)

I didn't debate with you, like I said I don't discuss politics with teenagers.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17193588)

I honestly have no idea where this guy's facts are coming from.


Where did you get this? At best, you're talking about the exception to the rule, at worst, you're making it up.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 17192251)

it boils down to this.

If the Arabs put down their weapons there will be no more killing and war.
If the Israelis put down their weapons there will be no more Israel.

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17193656)

Which may speak to your point but none of what you said speaks to my point.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17193670)

It's funny how he never mentions the Muslim/Arab oppression up until 1948 and beyond.

Originally Posted by DOX (Post 17193739)

Fuck the World! Over 300,000 killed in Darfur. What about them? oh.. i see... not so impressive killings, blacks...

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17193720)

The Balfour Declaration was an agreement by the zionists and great britain during WWI to give palestine to the jews. Learn some jewish history.

Germany saw this declaration as a stab in the back. Cause it brought america into the war and the destruction of germany.

Poor innocent jews.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17193724)

Aye it does... because it wasn't like the Country Israel attacked them and over threw the Country. This wasn't a religion over taking from within a Country either. It was assigned to them because of a book through other powers. Then through genocide they cleansed the land of the people they didn't like and do a lot more than just protect its own borders today.

Again... if they just created a country, lived with the people once the land was taken. And basically didn't continue to separate and murder anyone they didn't like - then I wouldn't have an issue with it.

I have the same problems with how our Gov handled the Indians after we took them over. And still today with how our Gov continues to take Indian lands. At least our Gov isn't building walls around them and bombing them, force starving them, etc... my god, at least hey have some rights, some opportunity.

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17193747)

I love how jews try to cover up their own atrocities by comparing it to others. Classic!

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17193770)

Are you forgetting that the Arab world rose up several times and attempted to rid itself of Israel by force of arms from day one...and have basically been waging war ever since then. Israel has not been allowed to live in peace since its creation...and has taken more and more extreme positions in an attempt to get the Arabs to cease and desist.

BTW...I am not a real big fan of Israel...but I do understand why they do what they do. They have offered an olive branch multiple times and that did not work so their current strategy is to use more and more force to see if that works. I can easily envision a time when they say fuck it and take military control of the entire land and rule with an iron fist for a few generations until the Arabs decide to live in peace with the Jews.

Originally Posted by DOX (Post 17193774)

I love how western armies cover up massacres in Afghanistan, Iraq (100 ppl killed) etc, with pictures from Gaza. Mayabong, what do you think about that?

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17193770)

I can easily envision a time when they say fuck it and take military control of the entire land and rule with an iron fist for a few generations until the Arabs decide to live in peace with the Jews.

Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 17193434)

Just to remind you all what happened last time with the Karin A.....
https://youtube.com/watch?v=az1HW0sGkEo
and this is what I and my kids have to deal with a lot lately
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9rHK3d5FGN8 this is what happens when Israel does not inspect ships... which is 300 meters from where I live with my wife and kids...

what are 15 seconds for you?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hUBX8ROqLwE


This is my reality... So I am all for the humanitarian aid, but let's verify it really is humanitarian aid, and not weapons....

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17193770)

Are you forgetting that the Arab world rose up several times and attempted to rid itself of Israel by force of arms from day one...and have basically been waging war ever since then. Israel has not been allowed to live in peace since its creation...They have offered an olive branch multiple times and that did not work so their current strategy is to use more and more force to see if that works. I can easily envision a time when they say fuck it and take military control of the entire land and rule with an iron fist for a few generations until the Arabs decide to live in peace with the Jews.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17191934)

Looks like Israel just attack that little convoy of ships heading to the Gaza strip.

When will they learn to stop fucking with the Israelis?


ANKARA, Turkey ? Turkey's Foreign Ministry says at least 2 people have been killed and more than 30 wounded in an Israeli raid on an aid ship in the Mediterranean.

The ministry condemned Monday's raid on the ship carrying pro-Palestinian activists, called it unacceptable and demanded an "urgent explanation" from Israel. It says Israel violated international laws and will suffer consequences.

(( news link ))

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17193778)

Israel are the masters of false flag terror and they have been caught using it in order to justify war. King David Hotel Bombing was one of the first acts of them dressing like arabs and blowing a building to hell. I don't believe for a second that they want piece. They are trying to expand their borders.

(please do not argue that the king david hotel bombing is "pigshit". Do some research before sounding like a retard)

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 17193749)

It isn't only Jewish history he needs to learn. Short of repeating what his Pops says at the kitchen the kid knows nothing.

Originally Posted by DOX (Post 17193803)

hhm... that accured long time ago. why don't u go back to the era of Crusaders? Tens of thousands mainly muslims (some Jews) massacred with the sack of Jerusalem?

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 17193798)

Bah forget it

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17193817)

King david, lavon affair, uss liberty, pollard spying, aipac spying, mossad agents arrested on 9/11 dressed like arabs and set free after 71 days. Israel is the biggest enemy a country could have.

I just like to sit back and watch as people try to justify how Israel is good for the world.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17193816)

Says the illiterate retard who doesn't understand history yet decides to humor us by trying to educate us:)

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17193828)

I like to sit back and watch as conspiracy nuts try to justify the destruction of Israel through made up shit and hilarious conspiracy theories.

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17193817)

King david, lavon affair, uss liberty, pollard spying, aipac spying, mossad agents arrested on 9/11 dressed like arabs and set free after 71 days. Israel is the biggest enemy a country could have.

I just like to sit back and watch as people try to justify how Israel is good for the world.

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 17193791)

that will just "peacefully" ignite WWIII

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17193789)

The western media is zionist controlled, it is nothing more than a propaganda mouthpiece of israel. Trust me the west does not get the Arab side of the news. The only arabs the west sees are dressed in turbins with RPG's, or Arab's in terror training camps.

Israel is always the poor one defending itself in western media.

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17193839)

Prove them wrong. Oh yeah you don't do that, you just call names.